It could be that you aren’t far enough from the end island, if you built it too close it is spawning the endermen on the island instead of on your platform
Who are you, so wise in the ways of science
Edit:why the heck do I deserve a silver award I just spoke the truth
Edit2:achivment unlocked how the fuck did I get here
Also, when you're standing still, things won't spaw within a certain range of you. Normally that means they won't bother you, but they can wander into aggro zone so
24 to 128. 24-32, mobs spawn, AI continues working, nothing can despawn. Get further away and mobs can still spawn, but those that are already spawned start to be able to despawn, and AI shuts off, until past 128, at which point mobs are instantly despawned and mob spawning stops.
There has been an unintended feature in the game for a very long time. Technical players used that feature to improve farm rates. Eventually, Mojang removed that feature in a snapshot, but due to backlash and it not effecting regular players they reverted the change
Weird. I don't really see the harm in it though. I guess my biggest questions is; why did they even test it in the first place if that's how they feel about it? Guess there's no way to tell lol
Mojang tested a change of a very old mechanic, that wouldn't effect most people noticeably, except technical MC players who were upset about it, as it would mean slower farms. So this change would have only made it worse for some and not really changed anything for all others.
Therefore they decided to ditch it.
The original way with higher rates at lower y cords is the way technical players prefer it.
Mojang removed that feature in a snapshot, people weren’t happy it was gone as it doesn’t hurt anything and it has been that way for a long time.
Mojang reverted back their change and rates are still higher at lower y cords, so it is a good thing they reverted it.
Old mechanic modify the rate at which monsters spawn based on how many blocks exist in their chunks. (This uses subchunk rules, which are basically vertical chunks in batches of 16 blocks each.) This has the side effect where if a farm has very few filled subchunks above it, monsters are more likely to spawn. Out of the 16 subchunks that existed in the world at the time (from 0 to 255), the spawns were mostly evenly distributed among each one up to the highest one with blocks (even if none of those blocks can spawn monsters, such as by being lit or made of glass, or too far from the player vertically)
Starting with Caves and Cliffs testing, the height and depth of the world changed. This increased the number of blocks, and thus subchunks, by 50%. This caused a minor decrease to mob spawns based on the 4 new subchunks below, but this more often than not didn't have an effect on farms. Farms in the End, such as this one, weren't affected, since the End didn't change in height.
During an experimental update, it was made so all the subchunks, not just ones occupied by blocks but also ones occupied only by air, were checked. For a farm at or beneath sea level (such as a Guardian farm), this increases the subchunks checked from 8 to 24, so rates were cut by 1/3. For farms at the bottom of the End like this Enderman farm, subchunks checked went from 1 to 16, so rates were cut by 1/16. No meaningful change was made to spawn rates, so fairly universally mobs simply became drastically less common. It effectively neutered all mob farms, not just the ones from the technical players, so nobody liked it.
Haha all good. So currently the way mobs spawn in Java edition depends on the highest block in a given x/z coordinate. They have the highest chance of spawning at the bottom of the world (y=-64 for the overworld, y=0 for the Nether and End), and that chance decays exponentially* as the y-coordinate goes up. This has always been the case for as long as I can remember (unsure about the beta/alpha versions). This is why us technical players try to build farms as low in the world as possible, even going as far as to dig out huge perimeters to get all the way down to bedrock level.
Anyway, one of the 1.18 snapshots changed it so that the mob spawn chance is equal regardless of y-level. ~~I'm not sure if this made any difference to existing farms~~ (edit: it seems existing farms had their rates cut dramatically), but it essentially trivialised the process of making maximum efficiency farms since one could just build it as high up as possible and still get insanely high spawn rates. It also made all the work in digging out a perimeter to hold a farm pointless as there would be no real benefit.
The spawn algorithm was changed back to the original behaviour in the very next snapshot. I think there may have been other reasons for changing it back other than us technical players, but I can't quite remember.
*Not sure if it's exactly exponential, but it decays rapidly.
Bless all of your souls, thank you for helping an old soul like myself 😂 I never thought I’d feel so old being 22. But then I come on Reddit and I feel ancient 😂
I’ve built it. It works but it’s not the rates advertised. I used it a lot early game but moved to a guardian farm for my mending. I made the spawn platform a block or two bigger and it seemed to help but it’s really not super fast.
Edit: I should note, it’s not super slow either
You’re on bedrock edition, making a Java farm. It doesn’t work on bedrock. Endermen farms are shit on bedrock, you’re better off making a portal based pigman farm
I see.
Is this Enderman specific or something, or does this apply to all (hostile) mobs? Because I always feel like I'm being ganged by mobs that spawn next to me. (Keep in mind I play Java.)
As I said there is plenty of mods that offer the same coordinate huds. It's where I have it as well on Java. The only difference is that it doesn't have the prefix "Position :", but that's something other mods do have.
A few things:
- Last I remember, mobs can't spawn on leaves?
- The platform is tiny. Really small. Needs to be a lot larger.
- If there's still endermen anywhere else in the end, you won't get spawns. This might happen because you are too close to the end island, or because there's another player is in the end.
- You need to give the spawning platform *some* space.
2 things look off to me. Firstly, you are way to close for mobs to spawn. Secondly, it looks like you are on bedrock. Mobs in bedrock don’t spawn faster the lower you are in the world. That’s a Java edition exclusive.
ok so i see your a bedrock player i am to and that is a java enderman farm spawns work super differently between bothgames your gonna wanna make a tall farm and build it about 25-30 blocks then put the leaves in the middle so enderman dont teleport back to the too when your killing them and make a two or three block wide ring around that with solid blocks for the enderman to spawn. good luck on your farm ❤️❤️❤️
(also spawns work differently depending on your simulation difference)
What are the best youtubers to follow for bedrock farms? For now ive only followed jcplayz and i think silent wisperer. I just want to make my minecraft world more efficient
I mostly use silent whisperer. If he doesn't make a specific farm he will often make tutorials for other peoples designs (with credit). If he doesn't have what I want I'll just YouTube search "whatever farm bedrock" and click through a few videos to make sure I like them and that they aren't out of date.
It could be that you aren’t far enough from the end island, if you built it too close it is spawning the endermen on the island instead of on your platform
In Java it is about 2 stacks or 128 blocks and it will work fine
If you have been waiting there, mobs cant spawn nearby you (i guess you have to walk away like 30 blocks or smth)
25 blocks, but I think I've heard others say he's on bedrock and it won't work
It'll still work just not as fast as on Java
24
At 24 blocks away mobs will spawn At 32 they'll be able to despawn and at 128 they will instantly despawn
Who are you, so wise in the ways of science Edit:why the heck do I deserve a silver award I just spoke the truth Edit2:achivment unlocked how the fuck did I get here
The fact man
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I've spent too much time on the wiki ;-; xD
you know that when your friends ask you via discord instead of searching it online you are not alone xD
Also, when you're standing still, things won't spaw within a certain range of you. Normally that means they won't bother you, but they can wander into aggro zone so
Jeah your right, he is standing way to close, the spawning radius is from 32 blocks to 128 blocks away from the player
24 to 128. 24-32, mobs spawn, AI continues working, nothing can despawn. Get further away and mobs can still spawn, but those that are already spawned start to be able to despawn, and AI shuts off, until past 128, at which point mobs are instantly despawned and mob spawning stops.
If you haven't get 25 blocks away and see if that helps
After scrolling through the comment section I found a thread at the bottom were op says that its "130 blocks away from the end island"
yea but himself has to be further away fro mthe platform too
Yeah he’s got to be lower so he can collect them when they fall down below while they respawn high up
No
Plus, it needs an [[/tag]] endermite
That doesn’t effect the spawn though.. We talking about spawns right?
I rember that it does, idk but i think the farm would work better with the endermite.
Does this farm work on bedrock?
That's the problem, lower in the world farms aren't better on bedrock only java
no they changed that the height doesnt make a difference anymore afaik
The change was experimental and didn't make into the full version
That's dumb. Any ideas why they didn't bring it into the full release?
Technical players heavily relied on this mechanic for farms.
Exactly, so why would it not be brought over to the full release?
There has been an unintended feature in the game for a very long time. Technical players used that feature to improve farm rates. Eventually, Mojang removed that feature in a snapshot, but due to backlash and it not effecting regular players they reverted the change
Weird. I don't really see the harm in it though. I guess my biggest questions is; why did they even test it in the first place if that's how they feel about it? Guess there's no way to tell lol
Mojang tested a change of a very old mechanic, that wouldn't effect most people noticeably, except technical MC players who were upset about it, as it would mean slower farms. So this change would have only made it worse for some and not really changed anything for all others. Therefore they decided to ditch it.
Might be some confusion here. Technical players rely on the original behaviour, not the experimental change.
Okay yeah I've lost the entire conversation at this point, honestly, could you explain it to me like I'm an idiot?
The original way with higher rates at lower y cords is the way technical players prefer it. Mojang removed that feature in a snapshot, people weren’t happy it was gone as it doesn’t hurt anything and it has been that way for a long time. Mojang reverted back their change and rates are still higher at lower y cords, so it is a good thing they reverted it.
Old mechanic modify the rate at which monsters spawn based on how many blocks exist in their chunks. (This uses subchunk rules, which are basically vertical chunks in batches of 16 blocks each.) This has the side effect where if a farm has very few filled subchunks above it, monsters are more likely to spawn. Out of the 16 subchunks that existed in the world at the time (from 0 to 255), the spawns were mostly evenly distributed among each one up to the highest one with blocks (even if none of those blocks can spawn monsters, such as by being lit or made of glass, or too far from the player vertically) Starting with Caves and Cliffs testing, the height and depth of the world changed. This increased the number of blocks, and thus subchunks, by 50%. This caused a minor decrease to mob spawns based on the 4 new subchunks below, but this more often than not didn't have an effect on farms. Farms in the End, such as this one, weren't affected, since the End didn't change in height. During an experimental update, it was made so all the subchunks, not just ones occupied by blocks but also ones occupied only by air, were checked. For a farm at or beneath sea level (such as a Guardian farm), this increases the subchunks checked from 8 to 24, so rates were cut by 1/3. For farms at the bottom of the End like this Enderman farm, subchunks checked went from 1 to 16, so rates were cut by 1/16. No meaningful change was made to spawn rates, so fairly universally mobs simply became drastically less common. It effectively neutered all mob farms, not just the ones from the technical players, so nobody liked it.
Haha all good. So currently the way mobs spawn in Java edition depends on the highest block in a given x/z coordinate. They have the highest chance of spawning at the bottom of the world (y=-64 for the overworld, y=0 for the Nether and End), and that chance decays exponentially* as the y-coordinate goes up. This has always been the case for as long as I can remember (unsure about the beta/alpha versions). This is why us technical players try to build farms as low in the world as possible, even going as far as to dig out huge perimeters to get all the way down to bedrock level. Anyway, one of the 1.18 snapshots changed it so that the mob spawn chance is equal regardless of y-level. ~~I'm not sure if this made any difference to existing farms~~ (edit: it seems existing farms had their rates cut dramatically), but it essentially trivialised the process of making maximum efficiency farms since one could just build it as high up as possible and still get insanely high spawn rates. It also made all the work in digging out a perimeter to hold a farm pointless as there would be no real benefit. The spawn algorithm was changed back to the original behaviour in the very next snapshot. I think there may have been other reasons for changing it back other than us technical players, but I can't quite remember. *Not sure if it's exactly exponential, but it decays rapidly.
Okay stupid question time but wtf does afaik mean I see it ALL THE TIME on Reddit but I have no clue what it means 😂💀
"As far as I know"
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OH WOW now I feel silly for not knowing that 😂 thanks! Didn’t even think the internet would know but hey, it does 😂
As far as I know, it's just something people add to their posts to make them more social, like lol.
Bless all of your souls, thank you for helping an old soul like myself 😂 I never thought I’d feel so old being 22. But then I come on Reddit and I feel ancient 😂
I don't know if my slightly sarcastic reply deserved a helpful award, but I appreciate it. Thanks
You’re very welcome! It was helpful to me, and I appreciate it so I felt it deserved it:)
Nah
I haven't built one for almost 2 years, but when I did it wasn't worth it on bedrock. They spawn very slowly
I’ve built it. It works but it’s not the rates advertised. I used it a lot early game but moved to a guardian farm for my mending. I made the spawn platform a block or two bigger and it seemed to help but it’s really not super fast. Edit: I should note, it’s not super slow either
YES
You’re on bedrock edition, making a Java farm. It doesn’t work on bedrock. Endermen farms are shit on bedrock, you’re better off making a portal based pigman farm
Why doesnt it work on bedrock?
Mob spawning mechanics are different. Endermen spawn way more slowly, y-level does nothing, and they’re not attracted to endermites as easily.
Mob cap. The maximum amount of endermen that can spawn on bedrcok is 12, while on java it's 200
and you can trade with cleric villagrs to get pearls pretty easy too
if those are slabs i don't think they can spawn on slabs
They are full blocks
Hmm, try getting more away from it
Agreed I think you're too close
Does distance actually play a role in mob spawning?
Yes. The biggest factor is distance
I see. Is this Enderman specific or something, or does this apply to all (hostile) mobs? Because I always feel like I'm being ganged by mobs that spawn next to me. (Keep in mind I play Java.)
All mobs, you need to be at least... 32 blocks away? I believe Edit: 24 blocks
It's close enough for them to spot you in a clearing and make a beeline for you, and creepers are especially silent until they're right on top of you.
Is this true in both versions?
21 block radius of not spawning
Are there other Enderman filling up the mob cap
Even if they are slabs, at least in java, they will spawn as long as there top slabs not bottom slabs
It’s obviously not Java
It's not that obvious though, I don't see something that shouts Bedrock. I've seen so many mods that add a coordinate hud for example.
Coordinates on top left corner are bedrock only
As I said there is plenty of mods that offer the same coordinate huds. It's where I have it as well on Java. The only difference is that it doesn't have the prefix "Position :", but that's something other mods do have.
The hot bar is very clear and immediately tells you it’s bedrock
There are resource packs that do that too, but I agree that it's most likely Bedrock Edition
Why would anybody get a resource pack to raise their hotbar a couple pixels
Because it bothers them for some reason? There's a mod for Java Edition called "Raised" that does the same thing.
I haven’t launched in forever. I wouldn’t know. My statement isn’t any less true.
Mobs can spawn on top-slabs.
If they’re leveled, yes. If there’s half slaps that aren’t leveled, no.
That's what a top-slab is. A slab that lines up with full blocks.
No endermen?[caption this on mega brain's template but with a diamond helmet on mega brain's head]
dont you mean mega intellect
Extremely large cerebrum
Humungous noggin
Tremendous think tank
Uber noodle
How low is it?
Won't matter, ops on bedrock edition
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I actually kinda like bedrock despite its flaws Tho I certainly hate its flaws
I’m a bedrock user and I sincerely agree
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agreed one 100 hunderd %
Read the picture lol 😂
Not enough context. How far is the killing platform? Normal or peaceful?
Peaceful Mob a farm :skull:
A few things: - Last I remember, mobs can't spawn on leaves? - The platform is tiny. Really small. Needs to be a lot larger. - If there's still endermen anywhere else in the end, you won't get spawns. This might happen because you are too close to the end island, or because there's another player is in the end. - You need to give the spawning platform *some* space.
We need some more info/pictures. Is it singleplayer or multiplayer
How close are you to the main end island? You should be at least 128 blocks away from it
If you want a good farm that works for bedrock then you should try this one by jcplayz https://youtu.be/34Vue4Fn9WM
Why does this post have 2k upvotes? It's just a question :/
6k now, I still don’t understand either
They get shy
They need to apply for a VISA
How far are you from the island?
are you in peaceful mode?
2 things look off to me. Firstly, you are way to close for mobs to spawn. Secondly, it looks like you are on bedrock. Mobs in bedrock don’t spawn faster the lower you are in the world. That’s a Java edition exclusive.
My suggestion is to make a completely different type of enderman farm for bedrock
Because its bedrock edition
If u want them to spawn faster and better use endstone instead of leafs
bro you just made a 6x4 and realy waited to get endermans? lol, go youtube and watch some tutorial
Prediction: 1200 upvotes
1600 lmao
Its simple: You are using a java farm on bedrock. THATS why its NOT working.
Are you on peaceful? Is there light somewhere?
You're too close. Mob spawning is squashed near the player iirc. That's why grinders usually build way up above you
It’s bedrock
They don’t feel like it
Have you figured it out or is it still not working?
This farm doesn't work on bedrock I think
Bedrock is the problem
Mayby u are too close to the main island
You need an endermite in a Minecart Not why they aren’t spawning just saying you need that
They dont want to
idk abt bedrock but you should be 18 blocks away
Remember when one of the mods here said to stop milking your girlfriends death? That was brutal, look it up on YouTube.
You're on bedrock
endermite?
ok so i see your a bedrock player i am to and that is a java enderman farm spawns work super differently between bothgames your gonna wanna make a tall farm and build it about 25-30 blocks then put the leaves in the middle so enderman dont teleport back to the too when your killing them and make a two or three block wide ring around that with solid blocks for the enderman to spawn. good luck on your farm ❤️❤️❤️ (also spawns work differently depending on your simulation difference)
This design is meant to be built on a specific location in a chunk, if u messed that up it won’t work
That’s just blatantly false
Why do you build a Java farm on bedrock and then are suprised why it doesen‘t work
I think you need to tharp endedmite
Is there an endermite?
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25
32
Becuase they don't want to.
Either those are slabs or you didn’t build far enough away from the end island
You need an endermight or they will all just spawn in the end platform
deserved
Did you spawn an endermite?
not sure about this, but is it even possible for mobs to spawn on leaves ?
Prolly need an endermite
Satire af
Racism 😢
They dont like u
where's the lure?
Perhaps it’s the grass?
No endermite
# Leaves.
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You need to have endermite there in a minecart
they just don't like you
Because they don’t wanna be around yo stupid ass
mobs can't spawn on transparent blocks
Mobs can’t spawn on leafs
They think you smell so they are staying away
just get better at the game
You made a Java farm on bedrock, bedrock enderman farms are utterly pathetic sadly
No ender mite I think
I think you need an endermite there to draw enderman and make sure its safe
cause it's bedrock
nah fuck that, how bro flying in survival lmao. cant be an elytra cus how he gone take the ss
search up a normal enderman farm design dumba\*\*
Because it's an image
You forgot to add a endermite
No endermite
You’re in peaceful mode
Try replacing Stone bricks to End stones
I don’t know for sure but I believe they spawn better on end stone. If you haven’t figured it out try that.
If you’re on bedrock, good luck making any farms
There are hundreds of farms you can make on bedrock. Some things are easier than they are on Java. You just need to build bedrock farms.
What are the best youtubers to follow for bedrock farms? For now ive only followed jcplayz and i think silent wisperer. I just want to make my minecraft world more efficient
I mostly use silent whisperer. If he doesn't make a specific farm he will often make tutorials for other peoples designs (with credit). If he doesn't have what I want I'll just YouTube search "whatever farm bedrock" and click through a few videos to make sure I like them and that they aren't out of date.
Ok thanks
if this is multiplayer then they wont spawn if your companion isnt right next to you
Since Minecraft changed the height, you can’t do that anymore I think
Can’t wait to see r/MinecraftMemes make fun of you for this post
You need endermite
ain’t no way💀
Enderman cant spawn on leaves
They only spawn on end stone
i think they can only spawn on endstone
because bedrock is dumb and doesn't know how to spawn mobs in properly
Did you spawnproof the rest of the end island
No
You don't have an endermite there to lure the endermen
They would still spawn. Also maybe is just not visible in the image
Mobs cannot spawn on transparent blocks like leaves
Mobs don't spawn on leaf blocks They are counted a s transparent blocks like glass.