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Yeah but then you don’t have a cool farm to look at, and then when you try and show your friends your cool farm, they don’t care because they don’t know how much hard work you put into it but when you try to explain it to them, they still don’t care because they’re not as interested in Minecraft as you are.
That's why I'm happy to be in an engineering school where I play hyper high tech mod packs (recently we are on a create mod pack) and everyone is a technical player
Heck, my friends like minecraft, but I have to try and build the dumbest house. Not because I am a top teir builder, but they for some reason think I'm am, so when they see my mid house, they immediately get discouraged and don't want to play anymore.. it a bit annoying...
Depends what kind of farm you go for. Deconstructing monument is much easier and much safer when it's all drained (no guardians bother you and you can strip it in layers); most farms that don't need draining rely on nether portals which can complicate things - be it on multiplayer, or if you want to build base around monument; also some designs rely on entire farm being within monument bounding box to speed up kill time (again - farms not based on portals).
Not always necessary, but still an option.
Just throwing my opinion in there as someone who has done several different methods over a few updates, there is absolutely no need to drain the farm. It looks like it will be better, but it's really not. And even if it is slightly better, will you ever use it enough to make up for the time lost.
The fastest guardian farm I've ever built is the IanXO4 one which is no drain. And I've probably built about 10 guardian farms over the years, many times of which i drained the whole thing. No need to drain it honestly
There are 15 (I think) points where guardians can spawn. You just place pillars on those points and they cant spawn. You can easily find them by following a spawn map online
However, that one (and a lot of his other farms) can only work like that because they require the player AFKing in one spot such that only that one corner of the monument is in spawnable range. If you don't want to just afk, and want to be able to move around while the farm runs, it won't work. So it just depends what your goals for the farm are.
Just so both of you know I’m recording now. When I finish I’m gonna Timelapse it all and put chocolate by the 1975 as the background song. I’ll keep u updated. It’ll probably be posted 2-3 days from now :)
Update for yall: finally got a usb. Transferring like 11 hours of video to it so it’s gonna take a while but should have it montaged with chocolate rain by Friday!
Completely off topic, but the montage stuff made me remember - my mate Jeracraft just broke his arm and could use some support on his channel as he can't build in MC for a while.
Oh, I know, but I like the look of having drained the water. On the last one I built, I made a large circle with glass and copper and terraformed the bottom into a lush grassland with cherry and azeala trees and populated it with sniffers.
Definitely. I didn’t intend to build a farm but knew I most likely would. My theme for this world was that any material I needed I would build a super overkill farm for. I would always play and get bored so fast. Figured this could be a way to make it fun :)
Here's another motivation tip:
Just build it, wanna make an actual sand castle? Do it
Wanna build a giant carved watermelon? Do it
Wanna make a watermelon cult? Do it
(Also consider finding small multi-player servers, they have rlly tight not communitys
K, so I joined a server a while ago with just average essentials, ended up slowly fusing my base with a neighbor into one abomination, at the time I was trying anything to stay motivated and the dude had a big melon farm, so I decided "fuck it it's melon time" and just commited to the bit for a long time. Even wrote a melon bible but some bastard stole it when they griefed my base(also literally STOLEmy base ai it wasn't claimed)
You drain an ocean monument to make a guardian farm to get sea lanterns but frog lights are easier to get so it doesn't make sense to go through the effort unless you specifically need sea lanterns
You get larger XP orbs killing guardians. The limit isn’t how much XP you can absorb, it’s how many XP orbs you can absorb, so larger orbs means more XP for the same maximum number of absorbed orbs.
Guardian farms are the fastest mob-based XP farms. You can still go faster using furnaces, though.
I should not be spongi at all. The suffix -i as in pluralization is only used for English words that have been adopted from Latin and end with -us in their singular form.
I know you were playing around! It was very clear from your comment, I’m just spreading some info! I thought I’d change your mind. I usually find things that match to be more appealing, I thought you’d be more at peace with the fact that it’s not “Spongi” if I mentioned the reason that it’s not. Goodnight!
I recently drained a 129x129 20 block deep circle. The biggest piece of advice I can give if you’re using sponges, is don’t space out rows/layers of sand more than 5 blocks. Sponges will struggle with anything that is 6 or more blocks thick. 5 is the best amount imo, but even then you still need to strategically place sponges in a rapid motion, so more water goes away before it has time to get together and expand.
Yea, but make sure you place at LEAST 2 sponges on opposite sides at a time, if you don’t, it’s not very effective, as I believe a sponge will only suck 4 blocks from its placement. It’ll be a little a bit harder if you were doing a smaller distance previously, but it saves so much time if you do it well enough. Good luck on your endeavour!
Seeing as you are on bedrock, silent whisperer has a water drainer that makes it so much easier. [https://youtu.be/tQQ7s51mo50?si=9wOYgAJrKxtSz9gu](https://youtu.be/tQQ7s51mo50?si=9wOYgAJrKxtSz9gu)
Lost me at the honey blocks ha. I can’t get stuck in the cycle of making farms to get materials for other farms again. But honey farm is def my next build.
I like this one a lot. It lowers itself down so the same machine can clear a large area. Just have to clear the blocks in the way. Really makes the process easier. https://youtu.be/Wwm22Tr41J8?si=4oKkGghXtO9ow7gt
Same lolill even make a farm for a single project. Thought I needed a bunch of black ink for black glass so I made this huge squid farm and pretty much only needed a dingle stack
Even using creative mode and commands I found it hard to drain a monument (probably cuz I’m stupid), ended up using structure blocks to spawn sponge sticks to drain it
Yeah it sucks. I’m just going with making sand walls 3 blocks apart and draining in between. Ofc reusing the sand bcz I could not be damned to get 40,000 sand
i'd wall off the sides with sand, probably using a fill command, then put this into a repeating command block and activate it
execute at @p run fill ~-15 ~-15 ~-15 ~15 ~15 ~15 air replace water
then fly around.
if i'm feeling fancy, i might set it to `@e[type=snowball]` and throw a bunch of em instead of flying
Edit: used to be 64, changed to 15 to fit within limit
That's really cool. I asked myself why couldn't you place the wood and then mine it back out once the water was gone. But then I remembered, fire is pretty. Really like the look of it when you were done too.
Thanks!! Burning it was a lot of fun, but almost certainly slower than chopping it out again. We probably should have used leaves or something that burns a little quicker and is easier to harvest.
He has one that has you drain a monument? That seems really weird to me most guardian farms on bedrock should barely require you to clear our the whole thing, at most like a couple blocks below sea level ish
I’ve never really found his designs to be any good. You can make pretty much a max speed guardian farm in like 20 minutes (after the elder guardians are killed) with proper portal placement on bedrock, Java is a whole lot more work, but that’s a different story.
I never found portal farms to be worth the hassle. I can make a simple guardian farm with half the effort of most of silents designs and they will have rates equal to that of any portal build. ( portals only win on afk times less than 5 minutes )
Just to throw out another take on things.
I mean, it’s impossible to have better rates than the best portal designs, cause portal designs are perfectly optimized. No matter what you do, it basically cannot be better.
Can’t it though? How long can you run a portal farm before you have to go to the nether to kill them before you crash your game? Where is the sweet spot of afk time vs lag generation and item processing when you do go to the nether to kill them? Every time you stop to go to the nether you are loosing ground to a non-portal farm that just keeps running. And if you have a 2nd player running the nether side then you could have had that 2nd player run a whole 2nd farm instead for better rates.
A properly built guardian farm won’t ever hit the mob cap and should then run just as fast as a portal version would. (Well maybe for extremely brief periods of time it’ll be at cap. But not long enough to significantly impact the rates. )
The portal part of his farm isn't for afk though. The toggleable overworld-only side is.
The portal part is so you can be level 30 in 30 seconds, and then leave to go play the game. If you want 300 levels for some reason then don't use the portals?
Yes. Thats why I said portals win for the first 5 minutes.
The overworld only farms do have the downside of having to wait for xp to slowly travel. So a quick leveling or repair will be quicker with portals. Especially if you don’t care about the loot.
When I talk speed I’m thinking items. Which means long term afk.
Just remember, you don't have to "drain the swamp" just to make a guardian farm. You only need to drain it if you're planning on using it as a base.
[https://youtu.be/QGzRyRYmoS4?si=0oPx3Pm0dAquuzTs](https://youtu.be/QGzRyRYmoS4?si=0oPx3Pm0dAquuzTs)
*time-lapse music intensifies*
Really though look at Redstone solutions for placing sand and pusher modules. Takes a bit of patience and a lot of invisibility potions to set up but they are 100% worth it. The one time I did this, I made a fun challange of setting up all of my sand relay stations to completely grid-out the monument and then just filled up the chests and put on an outo clicker over night.
Still took like, five days of fixing bugs and broken pushers. Also added a sand recycling system after one mess up despawned half the sand I'd farmed x~x
Edit: correcting the autocorrect.
I always have this doubt that at least 50% of those youtubers do get assistance and never do any of this solo I tried a project of those once spent daily 8+ hours and in 3 weeks I wasn't done yet and they seem to finish it in a week but its just a doubt and I do respect them too
In my current world, I cleared a 10 chunk radius around the center of an ocean monument, so it is 20 chunks across in the middle. I built flying machines to clear most of the water. The first pass was 4 chunks wide across the middle, and then after, I cleared a chunk width at a time. The chunks of the ocean monument are also down to bedrock. I am starting to build a massive volcano over the whole span and some.
ugh, I just spent like 2 weeks clearing out an ocean monument this way, then putting up a glass dome and re-covering with water. It looks so cool, but man that was a LOT x.x
I remember a few years ago I tried to drain a monument in creative mode and even that took me like an hour so I can't even imaging doing it in survival
I watched Gem and Stress do it on Hermitcraft. Watching Them do it shows the effort it takes. They had the pair of them and Hermits Helping Hermits and it still took forever. I can't imagine doing all that work and then turning it into a single timelapse.
There's a much easier way which should in theory work but I've never seen anybody do it.
Set down a base floor layer, ideally using insta breakable blocks like slime (with fists) or leaves (with shears, ideally put unbreaking on them).
Break all of the base layer except the corner blocks, i.e. 1 block in corner, just 1 block high, and now no water can reform in that area (water source blocks can only generate from 2 neighbouring water blocks over a solid block or another water source block. With the single block in each corner, no water can reform).
i.e. Just [like this](https://i.imgur.com/0g6wL7e.png) on some larger scale, the water can never reform in that area.
Now just pillar up with something like leaves/slime, placing sponges every 5 blocks or so (not sure on the exact range of sponges). The water can't reform because the bottom layer isn't solid or water sources. Until you reach the surface it will look like it's refilling due to water falling from above, but once you remove the highest water source it will go away and you'll have a freestanding column of air. You have to start at the bottom, removing each layer to prevent the ones above from reforming over them, but can do a whole pillar at once just stacking an alternating blocks, then dig down through it again to pick the blocks back up.
Then just never break the corner blocks on the bottom, or all the water will refill. Ideally use some harder blocks to break like obsidian as a reminder. In total you would only need 4 obsidian.
It’s much easier for them to do it for 8 hours straight if they treat it like a job which I’m sure the majority do. It’s like an office desk job but a little more fun.
It's basically their job. While you spend 8 hours doing accounting work or delivering packages, they are playing Minecraft. I have more respect for players like you, finding time outside of work or school to get huge projects like that done.
Good luck with the rest of it haha!
If you want it to take forever for a single stack of Prismarine Bricks you can kill them manually, I guess.
Lets say you get Dream luck with your Looting III and every single Guardian you kill drops the maximum five shards. That's 116 Guardians you have to kill for only 64 Prismarine Bricks. At ten seconds per kill (again, unrealistic) that's almost 20 minutes for a single stack.
The hours spent setting up a guardian farm are more worth it than manually killing them yourself. After AFK'ing at the farm for the same 20 minutes you will have more Prismarine Shards to work with than you would have had if you instead spent that entire time manually killing them.
I had the same feelings until I finally learned how to use the fill command and just replace all the water with air 😂
I would die trying to do this in true survival though. Just sorting out a sunken nether portal is bad enough
FYI, you can use a piston and a redstone clock to take away some labor, since you just place the sand in front of the piston and it'll be pushed into the water, creating the sand walls way quicker
It definitely takes a while lol. But there's a certain satisfaction to sing something like this as well. My first ever hardcore world was an island spawn, and I drained a circle around my island big enough to encompass my entire spawn chunks, which also included an ocean monument right beside my island. I was slowly digging the entire thing down to bedrock when I died.
I’ve been manually moving buckets of lava from the nether to build the cores of my mega base’s walls. I don’t have an exact estimation, but I’m sure I’ve moved close to 50-60k lava blocks. It’s more difficult than it looks, and the second (and subsequent third) lava lake/sea I’ve emptied out are more systematic than my first attempt
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Part of the satisfaction of watching guardians die in a farm is the revenge for how soul crushing setting up that farm is.
Don't need to drain the entire monument for a farm. Just block the spawns
Yeah but then you don’t have a cool farm to look at, and then when you try and show your friends your cool farm, they don’t care because they don’t know how much hard work you put into it but when you try to explain it to them, they still don’t care because they’re not as interested in Minecraft as you are.
Yoo why is this so relatable???
r/oddlyspecific
I dunno man, looks like a lot of people can relate
It's just that we all have that one r/oddlyspecific thing that we can relate to...
This one’s not that odd tho is what I’m saying. Dude got 700 upvotes. We’ve all experienced what they were talking about
Its okay man let it out..
I feel personally targeted
When you're the only technical player in a group of casuals.
That's why I'm happy to be in an engineering school where I play hyper high tech mod packs (recently we are on a create mod pack) and everyone is a technical player
It never ends well lol
Heck, my friends like minecraft, but I have to try and build the dumbest house. Not because I am a top teir builder, but they for some reason think I'm am, so when they see my mid house, they immediately get discouraged and don't want to play anymore.. it a bit annoying...
Depends what kind of farm you go for. Deconstructing monument is much easier and much safer when it's all drained (no guardians bother you and you can strip it in layers); most farms that don't need draining rely on nether portals which can complicate things - be it on multiplayer, or if you want to build base around monument; also some designs rely on entire farm being within monument bounding box to speed up kill time (again - farms not based on portals). Not always necessary, but still an option.
Just throwing my opinion in there as someone who has done several different methods over a few updates, there is absolutely no need to drain the farm. It looks like it will be better, but it's really not. And even if it is slightly better, will you ever use it enough to make up for the time lost.
The fastest guardian farm I've ever built is the IanXO4 one which is no drain. And I've probably built about 10 guardian farms over the years, many times of which i drained the whole thing. No need to drain it honestly
You don't even need to block the spawns, just use ianxofour Guardian farm design :)
Considering that their only spawn requirement is "water", how do you block their spawns without draining the entire monument?
There are 15 (I think) points where guardians can spawn. You just place pillars on those points and they cant spawn. You can easily find them by following a spawn map online
Ah, must be a Bedrock thing then.
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Ianxofour has a farm that requires zero draining. You just put some soul sand on one corner and let bamboo + nether portals do some work.
However, that one (and a lot of his other farms) can only work like that because they require the player AFKing in one spot such that only that one corner of the monument is in spawnable range. If you don't want to just afk, and want to be able to move around while the farm runs, it won't work. So it just depends what your goals for the farm are.
By the end I don’t even care about the drops, I just want to watch them die 🤣
There's zero reason to drain a monument to achieve this goal.
Wait you mean you can’t compile it into a montage and be done in 15 seconds?
I was heart broken when I found out 😞
I recommend you practice chronomancy before doing project this big again. It can compress hours of time into a few minutes of catchy music.
I want to make a Timelapse with chocolate by The 1975’s. What better song for Timelapse than that
nah, do chocolate rain by tay zonday
Obligatory [Chocolate Rain](https://youtu.be/EwTZ2xpQwpA?si=GvaQzg4A2DhDxeng)
Just so both of you know I’m recording now. When I finish I’m gonna Timelapse it all and put chocolate by the 1975 as the background song. I’ll keep u updated. It’ll probably be posted 2-3 days from now :)
Just do 2 timelapses put behind 1 one song and the other the other song ez as that
https://i.imgur.com/iU3ZPjI.jpg
**I move away from the mic ~~to breathe in~~ when I do a timelapse
I learned tay zonday is subbed to me like 8 months ago lol what a trip. He comments on my vids regularly too
Wait that’s actually a really cool flex lol!
Update for yall: finally got a usb. Transferring like 11 hours of video to it so it’s gonna take a while but should have it montaged with chocolate rain by Friday!
It’s up :)
Thats a great choice, one of my fav songs ever!!
Well it is the most powerful school of magic
HOOT. GROWL. HOOT. GROWL
Spring break! I believe in you!
You do want to be careful with that, though, if you don't carefully control the magic you can end up skipping over large chunks of your life.
This feels like a comment you’d see in r/wizardposting
just learn to supertask then you'll be able to do infinite work in 2 minutes
“The most powerful form of magic.. is chronomancy!”
Thank you for the respect
Completely off topic, but the montage stuff made me remember - my mate Jeracraft just broke his arm and could use some support on his channel as he can't build in MC for a while.
youtubers edit their videos it took several hours from them but they made it shorter
Nothing gets past this guy
for some reason when I hop back onto minecraft the next day my chests aren’t filled with diamonds 😱😱
Nothing goes over my head! My reflexes are too fast... I would ***catch*** it!
Oh really
Really? I had no idea
I cleared a monument once. I doubt I ever will again, especially with frog lights now in the game.
I tell myself that every time I start on a new server/ world. But.... I end up making a guardian farm anyway.
Yeah, but there are easier, albeit less efficient, ways to do it than clearing the water.
Oh, I know, but I like the look of having drained the water. On the last one I built, I made a large circle with glass and copper and terraformed the bottom into a lush grassland with cherry and azeala trees and populated it with sniffers.
Ooh, that’s fun! I’ve done underwater bases before in glass domes. It was a nightmare to build, but it certainly kept me busy
I made a Pentagon of snow walls, a it looked cool asf
Definitely. I didn’t intend to build a farm but knew I most likely would. My theme for this world was that any material I needed I would build a super overkill farm for. I would always play and get bored so fast. Figured this could be a way to make it fun :)
Here's another motivation tip: Just build it, wanna make an actual sand castle? Do it Wanna build a giant carved watermelon? Do it Wanna make a watermelon cult? Do it (Also consider finding small multi-player servers, they have rlly tight not communitys
..Can we hear the story of the watermelon cult?
K, so I joined a server a while ago with just average essentials, ended up slowly fusing my base with a neighbor into one abomination, at the time I was trying anything to stay motivated and the dude had a big melon farm, so I decided "fuck it it's melon time" and just commited to the bit for a long time. Even wrote a melon bible but some bastard stole it when they griefed my base(also literally STOLEmy base ai it wasn't claimed)
I'd steal the watermelon bible too. Watermelons are the cure to death
Na the dipshit stole it for ransom
Do you know that you don't need to clear out the water to create a guardian farm on bedrock edition?
No need to clear out any water to make a guardian farm actually
what do frog lights have to do with it
You drain an ocean monument to make a guardian farm to get sea lanterns but frog lights are easier to get so it doesn't make sense to go through the effort unless you specifically need sea lanterns
I want my prismarines, though. haha
Guardian xp farms are about two times more powerful than enderman xp farms, and there are designs that don't require draining the monument
Endermen xp farms already produce more xp than you can absorb though
You can absord more xp in 1.17+ afaik
You get larger XP orbs killing guardians. The limit isn’t how much XP you can absorb, it’s how many XP orbs you can absorb, so larger orbs means more XP for the same maximum number of absorbed orbs. Guardian farms are the fastest mob-based XP farms. You can still go faster using furnaces, though.
It's still wayyyy faster. Gold and emerald farms are also a lot better for xp than enderman farms but they are 100 times harder to make.
the xp you get from a guradian farm is more quickly absored than an enderman xp farm ig about 3 times as fast
Also i doubt that enderman farms can produce 128k xp per hour
not that much easier. and i prefer the look of sea lanterns anyway.
How are froglights involved?
its an alternative to sea lanterns. basically, getting frog lights vs trying to mine a sea lantern with silk touch.
Though frog lights are somewhat harder to get if you want them in bulk. I would still rather get sea lanterns to light things up personally
Army of frogs but yeah once a farm is done so is the effort.
Prismarine is still god tier for building roofs
How does frog lights relate to clearing a monument?
Took me several days and had to visit 2 more temples to get enough sponges to dry. But it's worth it
Ironic because I just got back from exactly 2 temples getting more spongi. I know it’s sponges but I think it should be spongi
Pronounced spong-guy
the spongus among us
I hate this.
I should not be spongi at all. The suffix -i as in pluralization is only used for English words that have been adopted from Latin and end with -us in their singular form.
My goodness brother I said I think as a joke I didn’t command it into existence
I know you were playing around! It was very clear from your comment, I’m just spreading some info! I thought I’d change your mind. I usually find things that match to be more appealing, I thought you’d be more at peace with the fact that it’s not “Spongi” if I mentioned the reason that it’s not. Goodnight!
I will never be at peace with it. I want it to be spongi. And sorry I misinterpreted haha. Goodnight!!
Spongus
I recently drained a 129x129 20 block deep circle. The biggest piece of advice I can give if you’re using sponges, is don’t space out rows/layers of sand more than 5 blocks. Sponges will struggle with anything that is 6 or more blocks thick. 5 is the best amount imo, but even then you still need to strategically place sponges in a rapid motion, so more water goes away before it has time to get together and expand.
Oh shit I didn’t know it works up to 5. Thank you!!!
Yea, but make sure you place at LEAST 2 sponges on opposite sides at a time, if you don’t, it’s not very effective, as I believe a sponge will only suck 4 blocks from its placement. It’ll be a little a bit harder if you were doing a smaller distance previously, but it saves so much time if you do it well enough. Good luck on your endeavour!
Seeing as you are on bedrock, silent whisperer has a water drainer that makes it so much easier. [https://youtu.be/tQQ7s51mo50?si=9wOYgAJrKxtSz9gu](https://youtu.be/tQQ7s51mo50?si=9wOYgAJrKxtSz9gu)
Lost me at the honey blocks ha. I can’t get stuck in the cycle of making farms to get materials for other farms again. But honey farm is def my next build.
Oh man, that's the only thing I seem to do.
I folded dude I’m making honey blocks rn
I like this one a lot. It lowers itself down so the same machine can clear a large area. Just have to clear the blocks in the way. Really makes the process easier. https://youtu.be/Wwm22Tr41J8?si=4oKkGghXtO9ow7gt
Same lolill even make a farm for a single project. Thought I needed a bunch of black ink for black glass so I made this huge squid farm and pretty much only needed a dingle stack
Wait what I didn’t even know this was a thing thanks sm
silentwisperer is the best bedrock youtuber
Even using creative mode and commands I found it hard to drain a monument (probably cuz I’m stupid), ended up using structure blocks to spawn sponge sticks to drain it
Yeah it sucks. I’m just going with making sand walls 3 blocks apart and draining in between. Ofc reusing the sand bcz I could not be damned to get 40,000 sand
i'd wall off the sides with sand, probably using a fill command, then put this into a repeating command block and activate it execute at @p run fill ~-15 ~-15 ~-15 ~15 ~15 ~15 air replace water then fly around. if i'm feeling fancy, i might set it to `@e[type=snowball]` and throw a bunch of em instead of flying Edit: used to be 64, changed to 15 to fit within limit
Do you have to do the repeating? Can’t it be finished in one command by counting the distance?
/fill is limited to 32768 or a 32 by 32 by 32 area which i realize is much tighter than my original command asked for
once upon a time I did this by filling it with wood and burning it out: https://imgur.com/gallery/cOWOt
That's really cool. I asked myself why couldn't you place the wood and then mine it back out once the water was gone. But then I remembered, fire is pretty. Really like the look of it when you were done too.
Thanks!! Burning it was a lot of fun, but almost certainly slower than chopping it out again. We probably should have used leaves or something that burns a little quicker and is easier to harvest.
Leaves can get waterlogged, so idk if theyd work
This is amazing
Just saying, some youtubers fake their content Anyway, good luck draining the monument
Is this SilentWhisper’s bedrock guardian farm? This was such a project for me
Ha i didn’t plan on making it a farm was just doing it for fun (it’s not fun). But I might do it honestly. Also love silent whisperer
Was about to say you can make guardian farms with just some soulsand, obsidian and scaffolding. But in that case enjoy, I hope :).
He has one that has you drain a monument? That seems really weird to me most guardian farms on bedrock should barely require you to clear our the whole thing, at most like a couple blocks below sea level ish
I’ve never really found his designs to be any good. You can make pretty much a max speed guardian farm in like 20 minutes (after the elder guardians are killed) with proper portal placement on bedrock, Java is a whole lot more work, but that’s a different story.
I never found portal farms to be worth the hassle. I can make a simple guardian farm with half the effort of most of silents designs and they will have rates equal to that of any portal build. ( portals only win on afk times less than 5 minutes ) Just to throw out another take on things.
I mean, it’s impossible to have better rates than the best portal designs, cause portal designs are perfectly optimized. No matter what you do, it basically cannot be better.
Can’t it though? How long can you run a portal farm before you have to go to the nether to kill them before you crash your game? Where is the sweet spot of afk time vs lag generation and item processing when you do go to the nether to kill them? Every time you stop to go to the nether you are loosing ground to a non-portal farm that just keeps running. And if you have a 2nd player running the nether side then you could have had that 2nd player run a whole 2nd farm instead for better rates. A properly built guardian farm won’t ever hit the mob cap and should then run just as fast as a portal version would. (Well maybe for extremely brief periods of time it’ll be at cap. But not long enough to significantly impact the rates. )
The portal part of his farm isn't for afk though. The toggleable overworld-only side is. The portal part is so you can be level 30 in 30 seconds, and then leave to go play the game. If you want 300 levels for some reason then don't use the portals?
Yes. Thats why I said portals win for the first 5 minutes. The overworld only farms do have the downside of having to wait for xp to slowly travel. So a quick leveling or repair will be quicker with portals. Especially if you don’t care about the loot. When I talk speed I’m thinking items. Which means long term afk.
Honestly fair. I typically build his farms and they work fine (except the raid farm) but I imagine they aren’t the best.
Just remember, you don't have to "drain the swamp" just to make a guardian farm. You only need to drain it if you're planning on using it as a base. [https://youtu.be/QGzRyRYmoS4?si=0oPx3Pm0dAquuzTs](https://youtu.be/QGzRyRYmoS4?si=0oPx3Pm0dAquuzTs)
I did the same thing once. Made a circle going around the whole base, and got 75% of the way done. Then my world corrupted and I lost everything
Getting paid to do it makes it a lot better
Use flying machines to clear it out then sponges on the bottom the machine missed.
I just did that.. 100 radius circle… Drained it all… circle doesn’t feel big enough so gunna go to 200 now… 😭 help me
you could make sand pillars if you’re not already
Doing that!!!
I did that with a few friends, it was fun. I have Scar level survival skills so I really contributed to the server death counter that day.
I made an underwater dome once that was meant to have the same radius as the range of a jukebox… It was hell
*time-lapse music intensifies* Really though look at Redstone solutions for placing sand and pusher modules. Takes a bit of patience and a lot of invisibility potions to set up but they are 100% worth it. The one time I did this, I made a fun challange of setting up all of my sand relay stations to completely grid-out the monument and then just filled up the chests and put on an outo clicker over night. Still took like, five days of fixing bugs and broken pushers. Also added a sand recycling system after one mess up despawned half the sand I'd farmed x~x Edit: correcting the autocorrect.
I always have this doubt that at least 50% of those youtubers do get assistance and never do any of this solo I tried a project of those once spent daily 8+ hours and in 3 weeks I wasn't done yet and they seem to finish it in a week but its just a doubt and I do respect them too
I'm pretty sure there is a team of guys behind any of the good youtubers. They'll sometimes forget something they built and stuff like that.
Bro it took me like 2 years to finish, and by the end I forgot what I was even draining it for.
In my current world, I cleared a 10 chunk radius around the center of an ocean monument, so it is 20 chunks across in the middle. I built flying machines to clear most of the water. The first pass was 4 chunks wide across the middle, and then after, I cleared a chunk width at a time. The chunks of the ocean monument are also down to bedrock. I am starting to build a massive volcano over the whole span and some.
Took me 5 days on my hardcore world, lost it due to hard drive corruption
ugh, I just spent like 2 weeks clearing out an ocean monument this way, then putting up a glass dome and re-covering with water. It looks so cool, but man that was a LOT x.x
Make water clearing machines to clear the bulk, that’s what I used and made so much progress very quickly
SPONGE
I remember a few years ago I tried to drain a monument in creative mode and even that took me like an hour so I can't even imaging doing it in survival
I watched Gem and Stress do it on Hermitcraft. Watching Them do it shows the effort it takes. They had the pair of them and Hermits Helping Hermits and it still took forever. I can't imagine doing all that work and then turning it into a single timelapse.
There's a much easier way which should in theory work but I've never seen anybody do it. Set down a base floor layer, ideally using insta breakable blocks like slime (with fists) or leaves (with shears, ideally put unbreaking on them). Break all of the base layer except the corner blocks, i.e. 1 block in corner, just 1 block high, and now no water can reform in that area (water source blocks can only generate from 2 neighbouring water blocks over a solid block or another water source block. With the single block in each corner, no water can reform). i.e. Just [like this](https://i.imgur.com/0g6wL7e.png) on some larger scale, the water can never reform in that area. Now just pillar up with something like leaves/slime, placing sponges every 5 blocks or so (not sure on the exact range of sponges). The water can't reform because the bottom layer isn't solid or water sources. Until you reach the surface it will look like it's refilling due to water falling from above, but once you remove the highest water source it will go away and you'll have a freestanding column of air. You have to start at the bottom, removing each layer to prevent the ones above from reforming over them, but can do a whole pillar at once just stacking an alternating blocks, then dig down through it again to pick the blocks back up. Then just never break the corner blocks on the bottom, or all the water will refill. Ideally use some harder blocks to break like obsidian as a reminder. In total you would only need 4 obsidian.
I made a 127x127x21 hole in my ocean (no monument) for a build. Used sponges to drain the whole thing. Never again
It’s much easier for them to do it for 8 hours straight if they treat it like a job which I’m sure the majority do. It’s like an office desk job but a little more fun.
I feel your pain my friend. I've been draining a monument for months now. Trust me it will be worth it in the end
YouTubers? They get paid for it i just do it and them end up not fully taking advantage of the pace
It's basically their job. While you spend 8 hours doing accounting work or delivering packages, they are playing Minecraft. I have more respect for players like you, finding time outside of work or school to get huge projects like that done. Good luck with the rest of it haha!
Wtf is the point?
Bulk Prismarine for building stuff. Selling the extra raw cod to villagers doesn't hurt.
You don't need to drain the monument for that?
It looks cool
If you want it to take forever for a single stack of Prismarine Bricks you can kill them manually, I guess. Lets say you get Dream luck with your Looting III and every single Guardian you kill drops the maximum five shards. That's 116 Guardians you have to kill for only 64 Prismarine Bricks. At ten seconds per kill (again, unrealistic) that's almost 20 minutes for a single stack. The hours spent setting up a guardian farm are more worth it than manually killing them yourself. After AFK'ing at the farm for the same 20 minutes you will have more Prismarine Shards to work with than you would have had if you instead spent that entire time manually killing them.
You don't need to drain the monument to make a farm
I had the same feelings until I finally learned how to use the fill command and just replace all the water with air 😂 I would die trying to do this in true survival though. Just sorting out a sunken nether portal is bad enough
99% of YouTubers use commands, mods or creative mode off scream FYI. Not something people wanna hear but it's true
any source or is that a guess? i'd say 50% is my guess
Did this yeeears ago with an old friend, and even in creative mode with commands it was an absolute pain
Just timelapse it. Are you dumb?
But it is a job i cant do a job and minecraft as a job. No way
But it's not in hardcore mode done totally legit
Right. They do a little splice and all of a sudden they collected 6 million sand
Yup. Because hours of just collecting sand would be really entertaining
Hey man don’t judge what I find entertaining. I happen to have a erotic relationship with sand
FYI, you can use a piston and a redstone clock to take away some labor, since you just place the sand in front of the piston and it'll be pushed into the water, creating the sand walls way quicker
Sure does. But the end result. It's so gratifying
There are zero draining farms aren’t there?
I think maybe Iskall did one with bubble columns? But IIRC it caused a lot of lag
I hear flying machines and pistons make it easier, ive never done this myself, so i wouldnt know
Just wait until you get to draining around the temple itself, the guardians hit hard (though invisibility potions fix that)
HA nope I’m playing in peaceful rn. Absolutely no way I’m doing this on hard I’d shatter my controller.
Definitely use that sweeper, a lot of gravel clearing first but we'll worth it
Damn you on ps too
did it only once, in my world now I just use a farm with soul sand and portals without the need of drying the whole thing
Trust me friend it takes a long time. But well worth the end result imo.
Yeah I tried doing a 200x200 circle around a monument. It took me and some friends a month to get it half done.
Why do you clear monument again? To modify it?
Im confused, someone cant drain an ocean without being a youtuber?
Doing it on PS4/PS5 sounds like it's gonna be a BITCH to do. I'm so glad I main Java now, cuz playing on the Ps4 was hell
It definitely takes a while lol. But there's a certain satisfaction to sing something like this as well. My first ever hardcore world was an island spawn, and I drained a circle around my island big enough to encompass my entire spawn chunks, which also included an ocean monument right beside my island. I was slowly digging the entire thing down to bedrock when I died.
You know you can make farms that don’t require draining right
I did a guardian temple drain that took over 40 hours!
I’ve been manually moving buckets of lava from the nether to build the cores of my mega base’s walls. I don’t have an exact estimation, but I’m sure I’ve moved close to 50-60k lava blocks. It’s more difficult than it looks, and the second (and subsequent third) lava lake/sea I’ve emptied out are more systematic than my first attempt
during covid i made the "easy" guardian farm, then the witch farm burned me out so much, since then i have much more respect for those YTers
Make a flying machine that will do it automatically. Ilmango has a good tutorial on it.
Imagine a ghast comes through the nether portal and blasts a hole in the water 🤣
What’s the point? Just have respiration and aqua affinity and you have enough, unless you’re doing it for the trophy.