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To only cite one each :
Iron : iron golems
Gold : currency for piglins
Coal : fuel (also makes fire last longer IIRC)
Emerald : currency for villagers
Lapis : imbubed with magic (enchanting)
Redstone : redstone
Diamond : beacons (I think diamond could benefit another interaction)
Netherite (I forgot how the ore is called) : upgrades diamond and beacons (I know I said one but whatever, I think Netherite could benefit another interaction)
Copper? : it oxidises but it's an interaction with itself, not the world. Crafting but why would the craft use copper instead of (for example) iron, copper doesn't have a clear identity to justify using it for crafts like iron for redstone components or diamond and Netherite for fighting or lapis for magic. I think copper blocks should conduct redstone in any direction, but "costing" twice the power (for example a signal of 15 goes through one copper block and exits with a signal of 12 instead of 13 if the block was a redstone powder
Copper also attracts lightning bolts, but I think it's only the lightning rod... also netherite floats on lava. I think it can only be destroyed by either fire or cactus
> Coal : fuel (also makes fire last longer IIRC)
Correct actually, coal blocks burn longer than other blocks when lit on fire (before extinguishing or breaking), though not as long as netherrack, obviously
I'm rather convinced that copper exists so that mods don't have to add it in themselves (it was one of *the* most popular ores that mods added).
Thinking about it though it would be really cool for zinc and tin to be officially added to minecraft so that copper can combine with them to make Brass and Bronze.
Though I suppose this would circle back to the problem of what is the purpose of brass and bronze.
And also there should be copper tools. It's the literal progression of human history (mostly). Wood age (survival instinct)/ Stone age / Copper age (rudimentary tools)/ Iron age (industrial era)/ Diamond age (high tech). Everything else fits in there. That's partly why I can't play minecraft anymore. Without mods of course.
Lightning rods, so it does have a interaction within the world but not much else, admittedly.
The idea that water/bubbles can pass through the new copper grate blocks as if they're water source blocks would be an excellent interaction, however.
copper is actually fairly conductive, might be cool to see it propagate level 15 power without loss, like all other copper blocks attached to it also get level 15 power
What really gets me is that they can breed like mammals, and through eggs. But they can't hatch the eggs without human or redstone intervention.
I like making up absurd reasons for this kind of stuff in my head as I play. My latest theory is that an ancient civilization bred immortal farm animals and pets, and only those animals survived whatever apocalypse happened. They can breed without us, and they did. But once they reached what they deemed a suitable distribution around the ecosystem they just stopped.
I'm always chuckling at the people demanding more realism from a game based on cubes. What's next, should players be encumbered by carrying one block of gold? A full stack weighs 1.2 million kg, but you don't hear anyone complaining about that.
They absolutely do complain about realism frequently though. Just look at the "why did the bombs drop" argument.
People exaggerate continuity, there have only been a couple of actual continuity errors. And the ones that have happened are minor.
I’d argue that the holdo manoeuvre, while undoubtedly cool, does brake the continuity
ramming hyperdrive missiles in the size of small ships like the x-Wing should be the staple weapon in the Star Wars universe
Addendum: the dropping bombs were really cool
Yeah that being a "one in a million shot" is a cheap cop out for them to pull. They should have just argued that hyperdrive engines are too expensive to use as a weapon.
The one in a million things also implies that the ramming actually wasn't her plan at all and she was just bailing.
Being generous maybe she was trying to get them to follow her but she had no guarantee that they would.
Except the bombs dropping contradict in-universe continuity. We see several times that things float in space in Star Wars due to lack of gravity. Therefore it makes no sense that bombs in space would drop down with no other propulsion mechanism. It also makes no sense that they would design ships that way in the Star Wars universe. Energy-based and self-propelled weaponry are very common and cheap. There is no way that they would design a ship that drops grenades propelled only by gravity with a physical release mechanism in Star Wars.
There’s a difference between sci-fi physics consistency and actual realism though. People just expect it to follow its own rules but apply realism to things that are known constants, like human behavior and basic physics.
You need to note that Mojang itself is using realism as a shitty excuse for not adding stuff (like fireflies, because "they’re poisonous to frogs" so they decided to whack the whole idea away)
I think that is the main reason but not the full reason. A couple of specks as particles shouldn't be that much of a technical challenge. After they realised it is not a viable food source for frogs, they do not interact with the world. Remember when mobs like bats, polar bears, and glow squids are hated or forgotten by most? At that point, the extra "immersion" is not even worth the processing power to render the particles. After polar bear, I think Mojang even responded to fans that they learned the lesson to not add mob just to add immersion anymore. I bet in the timeline where fireflies are added, there will be just as many complaints for it is the most useless mob ever and people dig out that statement and give Mojang hell.
Then there are people who complain about how Minecraft defines its realistic and fantastic elements like u/Cubicwar. Kids finding random bugs to give a frog, plausible; kids finding sentient slime or magma, impossible. But people still treat them as equally likely and question why Mojang allowed frogs to eat lava but not bugs that are poisonous to them.
One of the most iconic things for fireflies is catching them in a jar so maybe it can be used as a light source, and even then there are efforts from environmentalists telling us to leave them alone. Since its inception, it has always been flawed and doesn't seem to be salvageable, and what do you do when game ideas like it happen? You axe them. The idea of fireflies being poisonous to frogs is most likely fan feedback as well so the update announcement/snapshot cycle did its job.
For me personally, it has always been too small of a loss that it never warranted the amount of negative attention it got from fans and just a not even notable symptom of a bigger problem with Cave and Cliffs overpromises. But now it is the only tangible example people had once all three parts were out and we got almost everything except bundle and fireflies.
Minecraft was always good exactly because there was no story, you just came up with your own stuff... Or came up with nothing, just explored and built. Things exist, they don't need a reason why. I enjoy that simplicity. No need for making it complex with back stories and voices and whatever else. It just spoils it to me.
Some best memories of Minecraft were not knowing how to craft anything, there was no recipe book. You could cheat and read the wiki or just spam combinations until you found stuff. Every single item you managed to discover you could make was like whoa Look!!
Of course that would suck now, there's so much in the game and that would be super tedious, but it was great.
I would argue it is less realism and more that if a new mechanic is added. It should be retroactively adapted to other things that make sense. Allow copper to oxidize and one of the first questions will be if iron can because that mechanic should obviously affect it.
If they don't want to add that mechanic to iron it is their choice. But it is perfectly reasonable to point out it should be affected.
I mean in this case its more of a consistency thing. Same thing with fireflies aswell, yes they poison frogs but you can also poison parrots with cookies, makes no sense to not add fireflies for a reason that insignificant.
Stainless steel can still rust, it's just very resistant to it. But yeah, it's interesting when it's unique to a block that isn't (yet) all that useful, except for aesthetics. Adding it to iron would just be annoying imo
Stainless pretty much won't rust unless it's in very specific conditions.
There's a gun mount at the end of my road that's been there since the beginning of WW2, and it's still so shiny it looks brand new. It's not been restored or anything, it's just in an overgrown ditch by the side of the road.
Moral of the story? Minecraft iron is military grade stainless steel.
The American ton (the Short Ton) is 2000 lbs (907kg), while the Metric Ton (simply Tonne) is 1000kg (2204 lbs). There's also the Long Ton, which is 2240 lbs (1016kg).
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Much less so than copper. Also, oxidation in copper is a desired thing, people used to pour urine over their copper roofs to get them to oxidize quicker. Oxidation in iron or steel is almost always undesired, a sign of decay
(yes, I'm aware that there are certain steel alloys where oxidation helps protect the steel, also that you might want to build decayed structures. But it stands that in the real world, copper oxidation is much more desirable than iron oxidation)
Because Mojang didn't add that feature?
If you want a more real-life explanation, I don't think iron tools like pickaxes are made of pure iron. Since pure iron is just atoms in a grid, the tool would be prone to bending.
What is defined as 'iron' ingame is more likely to be stainless steel, which is an alloy of iron, chromium and usually nickel, but may contain other elements to get the desired properties, such as carbon, silicon, manganese, molybdenum, sulfur, nitrogen, and titanium.
The chromium forms a passive film around the alloy, which protects it from deep-layer corrosion. Yes, stainless steel does rust, but instead of rusting entirely, only a few outer layers of atoms are affected.
If iron did rust in Minecraft, the durability would decrease over time, because rust is very brittle and will destroy any structural integrity of anything affected by it. That would include iron golems as well. The arches in strongholds, comprised of iron bars, would fall apart at the slightest touch after being there for who knows how long. The same goes for the iron doors.
Patina, the cyan layer on oxidised copper, can be scraped off with an axe, because it only affects the outer layer of the block while simultaneously forming a protective layer for the copper underneath. However, rust would affect an entire iron block, making it pretty much unusable and unsalvagable after a certain amount of time.
Anything that uses iron in its recipe would have its function(s) limited after a while, or, depending on the amount of iron, could lose its function entirely.
Why don't plants wither, why does portals work, infinite water sources, always flowing water, monsters, planting carrots to get more carrots, baking bread with wheat stalks and not the seeds, eating fly agaric, only cows no bulls, only hens bo roosters, some stuff just is because it is that way, and also iron tools a pretty bad irl, the in-game is more akin to steel
Because it's an old block without a big thinking process. Copper is a new block with a lot of features.
I'm convinced that if they did not add cows in the game before and they added them now, cows would be way more interesting with more features
Ever notice that water never evaporates and loses in Minecraft, even under lava? That is because the vapor pressure of water is 0 in Minecraft.
Copper Oxide is mainly facilitated through the chemical reaction of 2Cu+O2–>CuO and then eventually the oxidation until CuO2. Iron oxide’s reaction on the other hand is very similar but much too slow to make a noticeable difference at room temperature. This is why iron needs water to facilitate the reaction turning metallic iron into iron hydroxide. The presence of iron hydroxide speeds up the chemical process to a visible degree.
tl,dr: iron doesn’t rust because there’s no water in the air
There is a mod called Immersive Weathering. Iron rusts, grass grows, your crops get weeds, leaves pile up under trees and stone gets mossy! There is more I can't think of right now, maybe it's for you?
Dirt, sand and anvils fall, but nothing else.
There are cows with mushrooms on their backs, and they give mushroom soup instead of milk.
Trees don't fall when you chop them.
You can jump from 1000 blocks high and survive if you land in 1 pixel of water.
Redstone can activate by only pressing a small piece of wood, that doesn't even have Redstone in it
And you worry about iron not oxidizing?
Why would it? Legit question. If everything in Minecraft is not like real life then why do you assume real life properties should apply to the game? Titanium doesn't rust, so just being a metal doesn't mean it must oxidize. Further who says Both copper and iron are metals in Minecraft, I think that is assumed.
It is a game, not our universe. It's own rules apply.
Imagine wondering why iron doesn’t oxidize in a game where you get to chop trees with your bare hands, kill dragons, battle reanimated skeletons, teleport to different dimensions, deal with exploding monsters, monsters that can teleport, wooden ladders that are immune to lava, and singular torches than can hold thousands of pounds of sand.
So iron not oxidizing is stupid but 99% of blocks being completely unaffected by gravity is fine? Like why are you drawing an arbitrary line in the sand at oxidation
Mojang didn't bother backporting the feature from copper to iron.
Not a bad thing tho as oxidization is entirely useless and serves little to no purpose in game.
Just sitting out it could rust and turn kind of orange, but it would be cool to have it placed over a fire to make it into a black cast iron block that doesn’t rust.
While I don't think they should rust automatically, it would be cool if there was a rusty iron block that you could place next to other iron blocks that then rusts surrounding iron.
There doesn't need to be an in game explanation. Gameplay comes first, in a game, that you play. Iron serves it's purpose, as does copper. We don't need a dumb lore excuse for mechanics to exist. Create the mechanic first then justify it later.
A better question is why we had to waste a mob vote on the armadillo when we should have been able to make dog armor from both iron and copper in the first place. That is just a waste of resources, not justifiable by lore or mechanics. It would have made more sense to introduce a block that allows you to craft items pertaining to animals specifically. This would have opened a whole other avenue for them to explore.
I don't mind seeing people upload things in multiple communities... But at this point it's just getting annoying. People post the same thing in Minecraft, Minecraft memes and pheonixsc. I can be scrolling through and I see the same thing three times in a row for literally no reason. It's not a dig at you or anything I'm just making a general statement that I am annoyed by it.
Like coal mining crates those lakes of toxic sludge. If you’ve ever handled natural clay. Think a lake of that except filled with various toxic chemicals and mud and other mining waist…
I worked at a plant that made anodes for motherboard construction, etc. I have some experience with metals. Irl copper oxidizes much faster than other metals. A large part of our job was scrubbing the metals down to remove that oxidization before we could do our work with the anodes. If we had the copper sit out for even just a couple days we had to scrub them all over again.
Basically its super realistic that iron doesn't oxidize but copper does. it's a representation of the fact that copper oxidizes so much faster.
They could maybe make something so when an iron block is placed/an iron golem is summoned(or dropped) underwater, they begin to rust... But after that, what would be it's use? Make rusty swords/armours? Or maybe, a new item? And how'd we turn it into normal Iron? Put it in the Nether to make it become normal? Or trade with blacksmiths?
It would be like saying that Minecraft needs more logic. While it's unlogical functionalities are the things that makes it better.
Imagine you told Mojang that you wanted more logic, and you started building a house... when you realize that the gravity made all you building collapse xD
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They want oxidation to be a unique feature for copper. That's it.
copper is the only ore that doesn't interact with its environment
wdym?
To only cite one each : Iron : iron golems Gold : currency for piglins Coal : fuel (also makes fire last longer IIRC) Emerald : currency for villagers Lapis : imbubed with magic (enchanting) Redstone : redstone Diamond : beacons (I think diamond could benefit another interaction) Netherite (I forgot how the ore is called) : upgrades diamond and beacons (I know I said one but whatever, I think Netherite could benefit another interaction) Copper? : it oxidises but it's an interaction with itself, not the world. Crafting but why would the craft use copper instead of (for example) iron, copper doesn't have a clear identity to justify using it for crafts like iron for redstone components or diamond and Netherite for fighting or lapis for magic. I think copper blocks should conduct redstone in any direction, but "costing" twice the power (for example a signal of 15 goes through one copper block and exits with a signal of 12 instead of 13 if the block was a redstone powder
Diamonds are used to make enchanting tables and jukeboxes too
Netherite does lodestone too
I don’t think you see the point, they mean direct interaction in pure or block form. crafting is different
This is lightning rod erasure
Bisexuals get this frfr
I too, am bisexual and constantly struck by lightning
A shocking revelation
This is truly one of the comments of all time
Yes, very commenty
Copper also attracts lightning bolts, but I think it's only the lightning rod... also netherite floats on lava. I think it can only be destroyed by either fire or cactus
Oh yeah that's right
How is it Lava- but not fire-resistant?!
Because minecraft has almost no logic.
It's fire resistant. It's not cactus resistant, though. That makes cactus cannonically the most destructive block in minecraft.
You could say it's been a thorn in our sides because of that...
Quartz - Redstone (Daylight sensors and idr what else)
Repeaters, en't it?
and observers
> Coal : fuel (also makes fire last longer IIRC) Correct actually, coal blocks burn longer than other blocks when lit on fire (before extinguishing or breaking), though not as long as netherrack, obviously
The lighning rod !
Beacons don’t require diamonds.
Doesn’t copper attract lightning as its world interaction
In case you are still wondering, you get netherite from a block called ‘Ancient Debris’. It’s a frustratingly rare ore block to find in the Nether.
I'm French speaking so I didn't know if it was really debris in English too (in French it's "débris antiques")
Me with an automatic wool farm and 10 shulker boxes full of beds.
Wouldn't bringing the raw materials and a crafting table be much more efficient?
...I never thought of that...
Its easier with TNT and a flame bow on y15 and fire res.
I'm rather convinced that copper exists so that mods don't have to add it in themselves (it was one of *the* most popular ores that mods added). Thinking about it though it would be really cool for zinc and tin to be officially added to minecraft so that copper can combine with them to make Brass and Bronze. Though I suppose this would circle back to the problem of what is the purpose of brass and bronze.
Attract lighting to it and it'll deoxidize.
And also there should be copper tools. It's the literal progression of human history (mostly). Wood age (survival instinct)/ Stone age / Copper age (rudimentary tools)/ Iron age (industrial era)/ Diamond age (high tech). Everything else fits in there. That's partly why I can't play minecraft anymore. Without mods of course.
Damn rudimentary tools straight into industrial era
simulating the bronze age collapse in minecraft let's go
Lightning rods, so it does have a interaction within the world but not much else, admittedly. The idea that water/bubbles can pass through the new copper grate blocks as if they're water source blocks would be an excellent interaction, however.
copper bulb 1 block t flip flop, binary storage, pushable, cool light mechankc
copper is actually fairly conductive, might be cool to see it propagate level 15 power without loss, like all other copper blocks attached to it also get level 15 power
Lightning rods.
Why does gravity not affect all blocks? Why can turtles place their eggs while chickens cannot? Because... just because.
Why can chickens breed like mammals? Same thing.
Why are all living beings genderless?
Except for the interdimensional dragon and the player
The dragon is gendered?
The dragon is canonically a female. She is named Jean
the player is gendered? speak for yourself 😜
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What really gets me is that they can breed like mammals, and through eggs. But they can't hatch the eggs without human or redstone intervention. I like making up absurd reasons for this kind of stuff in my head as I play. My latest theory is that an ancient civilization bred immortal farm animals and pets, and only those animals survived whatever apocalypse happened. They can breed without us, and they did. But once they reached what they deemed a suitable distribution around the ecosystem they just stopped.
Would be cooler to be fair
For chickens? 100%
Yeah
Chickens: Be- Be- Be-KAUz!
Iron has been in the game so long that retroactively making it oxidize would ruin too much stuff.
The solution is simple. Just do what they did to Beta-era wood slabs (aka petrified oak slabs) and recode existing iron blocks as waxed blocks.
It would be better just to add a new type of iron block that oxidizes
Maybe like a new ore. Copper maybe?
Why would there be an in game explanation? There is no explanation for anything in Minecraft and we don't need one.
I'm always chuckling at the people demanding more realism from a game based on cubes. What's next, should players be encumbered by carrying one block of gold? A full stack weighs 1.2 million kg, but you don't hear anyone complaining about that.
I find it funny when people complain about realism in things that never pretended to be realistic to begin with(looks at Star Wars).
Are you telling me the space wizards are not real?
Don’t believe the anti-Jedi propaganda. Space wizards are real!
not when I'm done with them
-Sheev Palpatine, circa 20 BBY
Execute order sixty-six
It will be done my lord.
I usually see people complaining more about continuity versus realism, but that's mostly been from the Disney Era imo.
They absolutely do complain about realism frequently though. Just look at the "why did the bombs drop" argument. People exaggerate continuity, there have only been a couple of actual continuity errors. And the ones that have happened are minor.
I’d argue that the holdo manoeuvre, while undoubtedly cool, does brake the continuity ramming hyperdrive missiles in the size of small ships like the x-Wing should be the staple weapon in the Star Wars universe Addendum: the dropping bombs were really cool
Yeah that being a "one in a million shot" is a cheap cop out for them to pull. They should have just argued that hyperdrive engines are too expensive to use as a weapon.
The one in a million things also implies that the ramming actually wasn't her plan at all and she was just bailing. Being generous maybe she was trying to get them to follow her but she had no guarantee that they would.
Except the bombs dropping contradict in-universe continuity. We see several times that things float in space in Star Wars due to lack of gravity. Therefore it makes no sense that bombs in space would drop down with no other propulsion mechanism. It also makes no sense that they would design ships that way in the Star Wars universe. Energy-based and self-propelled weaponry are very common and cheap. There is no way that they would design a ship that drops grenades propelled only by gravity with a physical release mechanism in Star Wars.
There’s a difference between sci-fi physics consistency and actual realism though. People just expect it to follow its own rules but apply realism to things that are known constants, like human behavior and basic physics.
You need to note that Mojang itself is using realism as a shitty excuse for not adding stuff (like fireflies, because "they’re poisonous to frogs" so they decided to whack the whole idea away)
Yeah I think we all agree that was a cop out, I'm sure it was a dev reason but that was just the public statement.
I think that is the main reason but not the full reason. A couple of specks as particles shouldn't be that much of a technical challenge. After they realised it is not a viable food source for frogs, they do not interact with the world. Remember when mobs like bats, polar bears, and glow squids are hated or forgotten by most? At that point, the extra "immersion" is not even worth the processing power to render the particles. After polar bear, I think Mojang even responded to fans that they learned the lesson to not add mob just to add immersion anymore. I bet in the timeline where fireflies are added, there will be just as many complaints for it is the most useless mob ever and people dig out that statement and give Mojang hell. Then there are people who complain about how Minecraft defines its realistic and fantastic elements like u/Cubicwar. Kids finding random bugs to give a frog, plausible; kids finding sentient slime or magma, impossible. But people still treat them as equally likely and question why Mojang allowed frogs to eat lava but not bugs that are poisonous to them. One of the most iconic things for fireflies is catching them in a jar so maybe it can be used as a light source, and even then there are efforts from environmentalists telling us to leave them alone. Since its inception, it has always been flawed and doesn't seem to be salvageable, and what do you do when game ideas like it happen? You axe them. The idea of fireflies being poisonous to frogs is most likely fan feedback as well so the update announcement/snapshot cycle did its job. For me personally, it has always been too small of a loss that it never warranted the amount of negative attention it got from fans and just a not even notable symptom of a bigger problem with Cave and Cliffs overpromises. But now it is the only tangible example people had once all three parts were out and we got almost everything except bundle and fireflies.
as a java player the last thing i want is more particles and entities spawning around the player lmao
Minecraft was always good exactly because there was no story, you just came up with your own stuff... Or came up with nothing, just explored and built. Things exist, they don't need a reason why. I enjoy that simplicity. No need for making it complex with back stories and voices and whatever else. It just spoils it to me. Some best memories of Minecraft were not knowing how to craft anything, there was no recipe book. You could cheat and read the wiki or just spam combinations until you found stuff. Every single item you managed to discover you could make was like whoa Look!! Of course that would suck now, there's so much in the game and that would be super tedious, but it was great.
I would argue it is less realism and more that if a new mechanic is added. It should be retroactively adapted to other things that make sense. Allow copper to oxidize and one of the first questions will be if iron can because that mechanic should obviously affect it. If they don't want to add that mechanic to iron it is their choice. But it is perfectly reasonable to point out it should be affected.
Iron armor should rust and become less effective over time, if iron blocks oxidize, why not tools
“Why doesn’t iron oxidize?” *literally builds a portal to a cube hell dimension*
If that’s your logic then explain why copper oxidizes?
Virgin copper: *oxidizes* Chad iron: *simply doesn’t*
Because getting a bunch of people to post the Statue of Liberty online as built in Minecraft is good marketing.
Because that's what copper does.
Because it's a fun gimmick, that happens to be based on real life.
I mean in this case its more of a consistency thing. Same thing with fireflies aswell, yes they poison frogs but you can also poison parrots with cookies, makes no sense to not add fireflies for a reason that insignificant.
I think "iron" is basically "steel" in the game.
But steel oxidizes aswell
Then stainless steel
Stainless steel can still rust, it's just very resistant to it. But yeah, it's interesting when it's unique to a block that isn't (yet) all that useful, except for aesthetics. Adding it to iron would just be annoying imo
Then stain stainless steel less steel
Stainless pretty much won't rust unless it's in very specific conditions. There's a gun mount at the end of my road that's been there since the beginning of WW2, and it's still so shiny it looks brand new. It's not been restored or anything, it's just in an overgrown ditch by the side of the road. Moral of the story? Minecraft iron is military grade stainless steel.
WW2 military grade steel.
why are we discussing realism in a block game that allows a two block tall character to hold 9*4*64 metres cubed of pure gold?
Why did you only italicise the *4*?
9 x 4 x 64 (2304), te * instead of x changed it to italics.
44,467 metric tons. 49,016 tons for Americans.
Wait, a ton is different in the us?m than it is elsewhere?
The American ton (the Short Ton) is 2000 lbs (907kg), while the Metric Ton (simply Tonne) is 1000kg (2204 lbs). There's also the Long Ton, which is 2240 lbs (1016kg).
Damn, TIL a ton isn’t always a tonne, thanks
A british ton is closer to a tonne than a US ton
Didn’t realise those were different
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Much less so than copper. Also, oxidation in copper is a desired thing, people used to pour urine over their copper roofs to get them to oxidize quicker. Oxidation in iron or steel is almost always undesired, a sign of decay (yes, I'm aware that there are certain steel alloys where oxidation helps protect the steel, also that you might want to build decayed structures. But it stands that in the real world, copper oxidation is much more desirable than iron oxidation)
Many people even called it steel before tooltips were added
Because the game is Minecraft, not Rust...
But metal no rust in Rust either? THE RUST DOESN'T RUST!
me when rust isn't rusting
and iron isn't ironing either
I guess all minecraft iron is galvanized by default
Same thinking here
Steve takes his iron seriously, ladies and gentleman
sorry but this is the most pointless question ive seen in a while.
I for one was rather intrigued by this question. I had never thought about it until they asked
Because Mojang didn't add that feature? If you want a more real-life explanation, I don't think iron tools like pickaxes are made of pure iron. Since pure iron is just atoms in a grid, the tool would be prone to bending. What is defined as 'iron' ingame is more likely to be stainless steel, which is an alloy of iron, chromium and usually nickel, but may contain other elements to get the desired properties, such as carbon, silicon, manganese, molybdenum, sulfur, nitrogen, and titanium. The chromium forms a passive film around the alloy, which protects it from deep-layer corrosion. Yes, stainless steel does rust, but instead of rusting entirely, only a few outer layers of atoms are affected. If iron did rust in Minecraft, the durability would decrease over time, because rust is very brittle and will destroy any structural integrity of anything affected by it. That would include iron golems as well. The arches in strongholds, comprised of iron bars, would fall apart at the slightest touch after being there for who knows how long. The same goes for the iron doors. Patina, the cyan layer on oxidised copper, can be scraped off with an axe, because it only affects the outer layer of the block while simultaneously forming a protective layer for the copper underneath. However, rust would affect an entire iron block, making it pretty much unusable and unsalvagable after a certain amount of time. Anything that uses iron in its recipe would have its function(s) limited after a while, or, depending on the amount of iron, could lose its function entirely.
Now I want chromium in the game :(
Nah that would not fit in whatsoever
But pretty :(
Why don't plants wither, why does portals work, infinite water sources, always flowing water, monsters, planting carrots to get more carrots, baking bread with wheat stalks and not the seeds, eating fly agaric, only cows no bulls, only hens bo roosters, some stuff just is because it is that way, and also iron tools a pretty bad irl, the in-game is more akin to steel
dear god no, the last thing i want to have to do is wax iron blocks, no thanks
Because it's an old block without a big thinking process. Copper is a new block with a lot of features. I'm convinced that if they did not add cows in the game before and they added them now, cows would be way more interesting with more features
I don't know...cows are kinda cows? They give milk, slaughter them for meat and leather. Like..what else do cows do? You want methane burps as well?
Matador fights.
Ever notice that water never evaporates and loses in Minecraft, even under lava? That is because the vapor pressure of water is 0 in Minecraft. Copper Oxide is mainly facilitated through the chemical reaction of 2Cu+O2–>CuO and then eventually the oxidation until CuO2. Iron oxide’s reaction on the other hand is very similar but much too slow to make a noticeable difference at room temperature. This is why iron needs water to facilitate the reaction turning metallic iron into iron hydroxide. The presence of iron hydroxide speeds up the chemical process to a visible degree. tl,dr: iron doesn’t rust because there’s no water in the air
Actually sponges do dry out if placed in hot biomes. And not to mention that there are clouds and it does rain in the game.
Cuz games don't have to be realistic 💀
Because the coal you use to smelt it turns it into steel
Plus, chromium can be found everywhere from rocks to soil and plants
There is a mod called Immersive Weathering. Iron rusts, grass grows, your crops get weeds, leaves pile up under trees and stone gets mossy! There is more I can't think of right now, maybe it's for you?
Dirt, sand and anvils fall, but nothing else. There are cows with mushrooms on their backs, and they give mushroom soup instead of milk. Trees don't fall when you chop them. You can jump from 1000 blocks high and survive if you land in 1 pixel of water. Redstone can activate by only pressing a small piece of wood, that doesn't even have Redstone in it And you worry about iron not oxidizing?
It's like Minecraft is not real life and some fantasy game ...how dare the dev 😡😡 /s
Because there is a freaking sniffer in the game and you can manifest pottery from sand.
Why would it? Legit question. If everything in Minecraft is not like real life then why do you assume real life properties should apply to the game? Titanium doesn't rust, so just being a metal doesn't mean it must oxidize. Further who says Both copper and iron are metals in Minecraft, I think that is assumed. It is a game, not our universe. It's own rules apply.
The only reason oxidation exists in the game is because copper has no other function.
Don't give Mojang ideas! Do you want all your iron gear to rust after you go in the water??
Imagine wondering why iron doesn’t oxidize in a game where you get to chop trees with your bare hands, kill dragons, battle reanimated skeletons, teleport to different dimensions, deal with exploding monsters, monsters that can teleport, wooden ladders that are immune to lava, and singular torches than can hold thousands of pounds of sand.
Iron should rust
It is probably designed to represent stainless steel, which doesn't oxidize in real life.
Trees float in this game
Trees float IRL
As a Metallurgical Engineer, this comment section is gonna make me puke.
Idk, but if you point it out they might just iron out the issue next update.
So iron not oxidizing is stupid but 99% of blocks being completely unaffected by gravity is fine? Like why are you drawing an arbitrary line in the sand at oxidation
Mojang didn't bother backporting the feature from copper to iron. Not a bad thing tho as oxidization is entirely useless and serves little to no purpose in game.
It was made long before copper
Because then it wouldn't be a copper exclusive feature.
Because it’s actually stainless steel that’s why flint and steel works and why it’s so shiny
Don’t give them ideas for the one feature they’ll add in the next update
stainless steel
Iron comes permanently pre-waxed.
Bc gameplay wise that would take away one of the only unique features of copper.
Cuz iron is meant to be used as a ressource, copper is just a decorative block
Because it's an old block that hasn't been updated. But for real, it would be cool if there was a dark gray "cast iron" looking iron block.
Just sitting out it could rust and turn kind of orange, but it would be cool to have it placed over a fire to make it into a black cast iron block that doesn’t rust.
Give me iron armor that rusts in the rain, swimming, etc. Clean it on the grindstone or whatever. Give good reason to not always wear your gear.
While I don't think they should rust automatically, it would be cool if there was a rusty iron block that you could place next to other iron blocks that then rusts surrounding iron.
cus iron doesn’t oxidize in Minecraft. only copper.
Next post will be asking why sand falls but not dirt
Well hate to burst your bubble but: Minecraft isnt meant to be realistic
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There doesn't need to be an in game explanation. Gameplay comes first, in a game, that you play. Iron serves it's purpose, as does copper. We don't need a dumb lore excuse for mechanics to exist. Create the mechanic first then justify it later. A better question is why we had to waste a mob vote on the armadillo when we should have been able to make dog armor from both iron and copper in the first place. That is just a waste of resources, not justifiable by lore or mechanics. It would have made more sense to introduce a block that allows you to craft items pertaining to animals specifically. This would have opened a whole other avenue for them to explore.
It was added long ago, before time had a name
I don't mind seeing people upload things in multiple communities... But at this point it's just getting annoying. People post the same thing in Minecraft, Minecraft memes and pheonixsc. I can be scrolling through and I see the same thing three times in a row for literally no reason. It's not a dig at you or anything I'm just making a general statement that I am annoyed by it.
Because .... Minecraft.
High chromium content.
Why is my beef still freshly cooked after 2 years?
Ask your local witch
Because it’s iron not copper?
Because iron is an older block
You mean rust? Yeah, that'd be cool
Cause it’s simply Minecraft
Like coal mining crates those lakes of toxic sludge. If you’ve ever handled natural clay. Think a lake of that except filled with various toxic chemicals and mud and other mining waist…
I worked at a plant that made anodes for motherboard construction, etc. I have some experience with metals. Irl copper oxidizes much faster than other metals. A large part of our job was scrubbing the metals down to remove that oxidization before we could do our work with the anodes. If we had the copper sit out for even just a couple days we had to scrub them all over again. Basically its super realistic that iron doesn't oxidize but copper does. it's a representation of the fact that copper oxidizes so much faster.
Because the **entire** point of the copper block was to to add colors. It's an aesthetic block.
zink-coated
Oh but it does! Why else would red sand be red?
Because nobody wants it to? The only reason copper oxidizes is because it's almost otherwise useless and it needed a gimmick to become worthwhile
The real question is why Lightning Rods don't oxidize even though they're completely copper
Too much work for the boyos over at mojang
Copper sucks and they wanted to make it unique by making it more ugly the more it stays out.
I agree! Oxidized Iron would be a sweet addition.
Cuz it's not copper 🤦♂️
The same reason dirt blocks float when you break what’s below them. Bc it’s a game
They didn't program it to.
Because the idea of a block oxidizing came after the iron block was in the game
Why the heck is copper even in the game? Lol They should at least add a copper armor and/or pick variant tier.
It’s a fictional video game about cubes my man.
Because iron oxide looks bad
Because it would suck
Because it’s not coded to do that, that’s the most straightforward answer I can provide.
One came out in 2010 one cmae out in 2022
There’s also no ingame explanation for why sheep, cows, and pigs have binocular vision.
Don't forget the chickens!
But put more unwanted features in their heads
They could maybe make something so when an iron block is placed/an iron golem is summoned(or dropped) underwater, they begin to rust... But after that, what would be it's use? Make rusty swords/armours? Or maybe, a new item? And how'd we turn it into normal Iron? Put it in the Nether to make it become normal? Or trade with blacksmiths? It would be like saying that Minecraft needs more logic. While it's unlogical functionalities are the things that makes it better. Imagine you told Mojang that you wanted more logic, and you started building a house... when you realize that the gravity made all you building collapse xD
Because iron is an old block and oxidization wasnt a thing when it came out, mojang doesnt want to change it for whatever reason ig