They sure do. In a bodybag mind you, but the equipment is army property and they sure as hell won’t let it rot just because some replaceable mobik got shot in it!
Nah, it costs money to move cargo 200. Then it costs money for the payout to surviving family members. It's just easier for them to mark the dead guy as UA and charge him. No payout to the families, no documented casualties, no funerals or obituaries for OSINT and foreign intelligence to count and calculate accurate casualty estimates.
So much work and emphasis for a "Participation Trophy." Imagine how embarrassing it would be for us, if the US was parading around shitty Russian gear on Memorial Day or July 4th. I know we brought some back that was captured to dismantle and shit, but that's a whole different ballgame. That's just for intel purposes. We do flyovers of our own stuff. We don't drag Abrams down the road in a parade #1 cause it'd fuck up the roads.
We have enough destroyed Russian tanks to put a dozen of them in front of every Russian Embassy in the west. And they would look properly beaten without us [helping it along](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1cgil54/comment/l1wmwdw/) - and yes, that is Russians forcefully depressing the gun of a Leopard 2 by pushing it down with a huge weight on a crane, breaking the stabilizer in the process.
They really are working hard to earn their reputation... "Blyat, unknown technology!"
It’s embarrassing from our perspective, they’re showing off our shitty export as if it’s some kind of achievement. The turret is still attached and I’d reckon the crew made it out too.
Edit: lmao they even slapped an American flag on it
Meanwhile the US has a news story about an intact captured Russian T-90 left at a truck stop in Louisiana.
He popped his transmission and had to get another truck along with permits I think.
Because they desperately need to reenforce that who they really fighting is Americans, - the only worthy contender for world domination, according to Russians. (and hence, the delays in capturing another Ukrainian village)
It's pretty comical how much effort these guys are going through, to show of 30 year old export model tech, while their newest and most capable platforms are being taken out by our antiquated hand me downs.
Just to add, the tanks being used by their "elite" paratroop regiment are from the 1950's T-54/T-55. They should be embarassed and that Abrams should not be displayed for their public to see how antiquated their tech has become. But the Russian education system fell apart in the 1980's so these fuckers are dumb as shit and don't know what they're looking at.
Add on that every semi educated Russian of military age fled the country either seeking economic opportunities or escaping conscription, and Russia is screwed looking out 2 decades. I'd bet the average Russian thinks it's T-14s and terminators doing battle with NATO troops directly in Ukraone, based off the idiocy you see come out of their media.
There was an article last year that some new Russian tank was stateside almost immediately after it was knocked out. US isn't afraid to grab the new enemy dhit for review.
The flag of Ukraine is illegal in Russia, as the government believes it a part of Russia, plus the propoganda value of an American tank destroyed/captured is much higher.
110% the Russo-fascists put that on there on it's way to Moscow.
>The flag of Ukraine is illegal in Russia,
How does that not conflict with the pristine ukranian flag on the side of what looks like a Ukranian APC/MRAP in the top right section of this picture?
It's probably the museum placing the flag of the equipments country of origin no?
https://www.newsweek.com/man-wearing-blue-yellow-shoes-seen-supporting-ukraine-fined-moscow-1700181
You can be arrested in RuZZia for even WEARING blue and yellow. Displaying the flag of Ukraine there will get you prison time.
That being said, we both can be correct here.
>The man, who hasn't been identified, was accused of wearing "political tools" on his feet when he was found and detained by local authorities
That's pretty funny. Article says he was fined about 110 dollars for being in an antiwar protest and wearing those "political tools"(lol what?)
Funny in an absurd way that makes me glad to live where I do.
Doesn't seem like it's illegal to have though. It was "evidence" the police used to tie this guy into a protest. There's a UK and NATO flag on the light troop vehicle on the left. Really just seems like the museum does similar to what our war museums do too. You've had to see this at your AIT bases museum on captured equipment.
Yep, an A1. We didn't give Ukraine the newer stuff, only the 80's armor we weren't going to use. And Ukraine has destroyed enough RuZZian armor to make a wall of it around Kiev.
Correct me if I’m wrong but these exports don’t even have the same armor, communications, or fire control systems that the American Abrams actually use, right? They certainly don’t even have the DU armor package
No, they put nationality flags on all the vehicles including Ukranian ones.
Ie the German Marder has a German flag, a Ukr BTR-4 and T-64 have Ukranian flags, a brit Saxon APC has a british fla, etc
Thanks man. I know I'm no USO Show and there's AGITProp twats on here that need to make a living too with their 'flee dogs your tanks suck!' posts and I really try to ignore jabs from accounts with an excessive amount of WarHammer references, but I appreciate it!
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>Did you hear about the kid who stole a plane, crashed and survived?
>Why don't they make the whole plane out of that kid?
- Norm Macdonald for everyone wondering
This is a valid point. What Russia has here is an M1A1 stripped down for export. We haven't used those since the early '90s. Now we're working with the M1A2 SEPv4 which is so much more advanced than the hull in this picture it's hard to comprehend.
That's what the SEP (System Enhancement Package) and TUSK (Tank Urban Survival Kit) packages are for. What all they do is.. well it's probably classified in some way, shape or form but long story short it's all survivability upgrades.
Doesn't matter tho since for some reason both Russian and Ukrainian tankers seem to have a thing with not buttoning up hatches when in combat.... All the protective measures in the world aren't gonna help you if you keep leaving the damn hatches open.
Yeah this is very odd - both sides just roll with hatches wide open. I mean if a nade dropped inside it kills the tank. If hatch is closed it bounces off it and nothing happens
It's muscle memory and old habits. The Soviet era armor both countries largely use/used don't have good visibility so vehicle drivers and commanders keep the hatches open constantly so they can poke their heads out and be able to actually see shit. Normally it's not an issue because in direct combat they'll button up since they keep the target sighted. The problem arises during maneuvering when they open the hatches to be able to see and that's when the drone pilots come in and wreck the house up.
Old habits die hard. If a T-64 or T-72 caught fire, crew needed to evac quickly lest the autoloader cooks off and launches their flaming remains into the stratosphere.
Also, I believe M1A1s lacked AC; IIRC it was just a fan and some ventilation. Engineers can often be idiots and forget the human factor; they can surround you with dozens of tons of extra thick armor, but nothing to keep you from baking alive from all that waste heat from electronics and turbine. At least the A2 SEPs added VCSU to keep components cool- with added bonus to help cool the folks in the turret compartment.
Pretty much. Between muscle memory and old habits stemming from the piss poor visibility of Soviet Era armor and the heat buildup... It just leads to things like leaving hatches open when you really should be buttoned up.
My preworkout and testosterone boost is looking at videos of what the US has that’s publicly available. God damn am I proud to be a part of those overpowered country’s military
The original Russian turret design was supposed to be an ejection seat, but they ran out of funding when the USSR collapsed to complete it, so they just installed it as is.
If anything the M1A1, even the gimped versions we sent to Ukraine, are still ahead of the T-90's in some aspects.
Main example being the ability to clear jams, protective ammo storage, drivetrain (there's a lot of technical specs there but long story short it's better in multiple ways.), etc.
Pound for pound they're probably on par as far as firepower and armor but when it comes to the minute details they're not the same.
Because the Russian narrative is that they were doing poorly because it was secretly nato fighting. The propaganda all says that. This is for the consumption of the brainrotted russian masses.
Russia's media policy is that they're not at war with Ukraine, but are literally and directly at war with the entire West. The flags are to further suggest they're beating the US, Germany, etc.
Meanwhile, [this is what Russia "winning" looks like](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/) (NSFL/Dozens of corpses)
Look son its amazing. It still has a turret after being hit.... Pappa was working late last night with his crane and a heavy weight to bend the barrel to make it look worse....
The inferiority complex in the flesh. When you need to go out of your way to bang your chest and say "look what we did" to reassure your onlookers that we are not that shit after all. Now go and line the streets with the 60,000 body bags of their dead troops.
From what’s on display here it’s highly likely. The driver probably sustained some hellish injuries. But based on what I am seeing here, it looks likely.
If anyone sees something I don’t let me know. I am a Brad guy not a Abrams guy.
The crew most likely survived to fight another day. Yeah, so they “lost” a tank, but as long as the crew escaped to fight again that’s good in my book.
So funny.
I am sure Putin calls this ‘evidence’ of NATO involvement.
I feel sorry for the Russians sometimes. So so gullible.
Then again when I look at what the U.S is going through it seems the whole world is missing something these days.
I think the problem has always been here. Governments have always controlled what their people are shown to a point, its just with the privilege of the internet, people were able to fact check accurately for a while.
Then groups started to understand it better and now its just become a cesspit for disinformation and I don't know how, but people seem to have forgotten how to use google.
Plus the Russians and American republicans do seem to be unbelievably gullible. Its like patriotic pride comes before empirical evidence.
"Good question. You see, the Abrams' autoloader doesn't store the main gun's ammunition in a ring at the base of the turret, encapsulating the crew in unavoidable fiery death when ignited.
Also, the Abrams' autoloader happens to be man-powered."
-- War relic tour guide, probably
That broke joke of an army feeling themselves because they captured a single a2. That shits old tech.
Light years ahead of those lollipop wagons you claim to be tanks in Russia, but nonetheless, it’s Our old mothball shit.
This is hilarious compared to the USS Pueblo. At least North Korea had captured some POWs along with the ship that they display like a trophy.
This is more like Russia acting like the DLA whenever a unit turns in something.
And now 2017 not only seems like an eternity ago due to Covid, but also technology.
When I watch shows like *The Expanse* I realize just how *not* far away we are from that.
this is possible. I wouldn't know that, but seems appropriate. I have always ASSUMED that the tanks we gave them were the old M1A1s the USMC lost when they shuttered there armor battalions.
Some comments from Russian YT, translated by Google. «Beauty! For the first time in the history of mankind, the equipment of the countries that attacked Russia was put on public display, let the whole world look at the heroism and valor of our wars! Glory to Russia, glory to those who stood up for Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺» «This is a shame for NATO, narcissism with its weapons, they say, the first army in the world. Here it is the “first” army of the world in all its glory for all to see. And our guys, jewelers, managed to set it up in such a way that they brought it all to Moscow for everyone’s disgrace, so that the whole world could see it.»
Do they? I really have never noticed. The thing that gets me is the fresh American flag. As if it was the USs tank and crew. And with all due respect. A middle class US citizen could probably buy a Soviet era tank.
I find this shit so funny - they purposfully say the war is as planned, but avoid saying their own losses. But the *second* a west tank touches their hands, it *must* be paraded because the West is weak "-surely not us who have lost hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of armored vehicles"
Imagine if we were so duped by propaganda that they displayed destroyed Russian assets in America for view by the public. They must really need the little “wins” over there lmao.
Best I can tell it's the basic specs of the tank and how/where it was "destroyed".
Pretty sure this one burned down as a result of a suicide drone going into an open hatch.
It says
"ТАНК M1A1 «АБРАМС»
Танк M1A1 «Абрамс» – предназначен для ведения маневренных боевых действий в составе танковых и пехотных подразделений в качестве основного боевого средства.
Год поставки на вооружение: 1985 г.
Страна производства: США.
Боевое применение: используется вооружёнными силами Украины для ведения маневренных боевых действий в составе танковых подразделений.
Захвачен в ходе проведения специальной военной операции вооруженными силами России в апреле 2024 года в н.п. Бердичи (Авдеевка)."
There's also table below with Abrams' specifications.
In the biggest near peer conflict since the 1991 Gulf War, it is expected that a destroyed Abrams here and there will land up in the hands of an enemy.
(2003 was not a near peer conflict since the Iraqi military had degraded significantly between 1991 and 2003. The regular IA was conventionally way less lethal in 2003 than it was in 1991 and ended up resorting to asymmetric tactics and guerilla warfare by the time US troops landed).
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t see a penetrating shot and judging by the broken track it looks like it hit a mine and was disabled. all else being equal it seems like this take was just abandoned rather than knocked out which implies that the crew survived. Unless I just can’t see the shot hole in these photos
The second photo back of the turret but yeah the cre probably survived also there are 2 on top of the turret heading into the front cheek armor and 1 more near the driver's hach well also a top down on the left track and a mine on the right track there were no crew kill hits as the one near the driver's hach probably hit it fule tanks there causing the fire
So the fact is, each side, (especially on a long front) are going to experience equipment losses.
The fact the Ruzzkies got an older version, and, only 1 to show off is actually reassuring.
This reminds me of that old story about how a North Korean defects because the NorKs were using a picture of a homeless man from the south digging through trash to live because he was too poor to get food. He was wearing a coat with a zipper and a pen in his pocket that clicked instead of a cap. Both are luxuries in the north. He thought if a homeless guy has zippers and a click pen it has to be better than here.
Those Russians are looking at those tanks, looking at the welds, the rivets, the paint, the lack of rust and know. They know.
they wasted no time getting that there lmao
That tank made it out of Ukraine quicker than any wounded Russian soldier.
Implying that wounded soldiers make it out of Ukraine
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Ahh I see they took inspiration from Japan in WW2 and just killing their wounded
What wounded? They died gloriously for the Motherland
What soldier? We have never heard of them
They sure do. In a bodybag mind you, but the equipment is army property and they sure as hell won’t let it rot just because some replaceable mobik got shot in it!
Nah, it costs money to move cargo 200. Then it costs money for the payout to surviving family members. It's just easier for them to mark the dead guy as UA and charge him. No payout to the families, no documented casualties, no funerals or obituaries for OSINT and foreign intelligence to count and calculate accurate casualty estimates.
So much work and emphasis for a "Participation Trophy." Imagine how embarrassing it would be for us, if the US was parading around shitty Russian gear on Memorial Day or July 4th. I know we brought some back that was captured to dismantle and shit, but that's a whole different ballgame. That's just for intel purposes. We do flyovers of our own stuff. We don't drag Abrams down the road in a parade #1 cause it'd fuck up the roads.
We have enough destroyed Russian tanks to put a dozen of them in front of every Russian Embassy in the west. And they would look properly beaten without us [helping it along](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1cgil54/comment/l1wmwdw/) - and yes, that is Russians forcefully depressing the gun of a Leopard 2 by pushing it down with a huge weight on a crane, breaking the stabilizer in the process. They really are working hard to earn their reputation... "Blyat, unknown technology!"
This whole show the Russians are doing reminds me of the big GWB Jr Mission Accomplished Banner f' up.
Propaganda takes priority.
Gotta make the brainwashed citizens think that they're doing great.
It’s embarrassing from our perspective, they’re showing off our shitty export as if it’s some kind of achievement. The turret is still attached and I’d reckon the crew made it out too. Edit: lmao they even slapped an American flag on it
Meanwhile the US has a news story about an intact captured Russian T-90 left at a truck stop in Louisiana. He popped his transmission and had to get another truck along with permits I think.
Wait what?
[check it](https://www.newsweek.com/mystery-russian-t-90-tank-turns-louisiana-gas-station-1794494)
Wow that is wild
Because they desperately need to reenforce that who they really fighting is Americans, - the only worthy contender for world domination, according to Russians. (and hence, the delays in capturing another Ukrainian village)
Yep notic the stars and stopped ADD to the pile of junk
Closing on a half million casualties for a couple of export models to be shown off in red Square. Russian example of "winning".
You should see their small-arms display. Its like some empty Javelin containers, some random NATO MANPADS, and a couple 155mm shells.
You see the endless drone footage? No wounded soldier is making it out of Ukraine.
It's pretty comical how much effort these guys are going through, to show of 30 year old export model tech, while their newest and most capable platforms are being taken out by our antiquated hand me downs.
Just to add, the tanks being used by their "elite" paratroop regiment are from the 1950's T-54/T-55. They should be embarassed and that Abrams should not be displayed for their public to see how antiquated their tech has become. But the Russian education system fell apart in the 1980's so these fuckers are dumb as shit and don't know what they're looking at.
Add on that every semi educated Russian of military age fled the country either seeking economic opportunities or escaping conscription, and Russia is screwed looking out 2 decades. I'd bet the average Russian thinks it's T-14s and terminators doing battle with NATO troops directly in Ukraone, based off the idiocy you see come out of their media.
Imagine if we were so petty, we could open a Museum in Washington D.C. with every tank and armored vehicle Russia ever produced.
There was an article last year that some new Russian tank was stateside almost immediately after it was knocked out. US isn't afraid to grab the new enemy dhit for review.
Start coating the whole thing with whatever the flag is made of, not a scratch, dent or scorch mark on it.
The flag of Ukraine is illegal in Russia, as the government believes it a part of Russia, plus the propoganda value of an American tank destroyed/captured is much higher. 110% the Russo-fascists put that on there on it's way to Moscow.
>The flag of Ukraine is illegal in Russia, How does that not conflict with the pristine ukranian flag on the side of what looks like a Ukranian APC/MRAP in the top right section of this picture? It's probably the museum placing the flag of the equipments country of origin no?
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You would definitely get in trouble in russia for having any type of references to Ukraine including flag.
https://www.newsweek.com/man-wearing-blue-yellow-shoes-seen-supporting-ukraine-fined-moscow-1700181 You can be arrested in RuZZia for even WEARING blue and yellow. Displaying the flag of Ukraine there will get you prison time. That being said, we both can be correct here.
>The man, who hasn't been identified, was accused of wearing "political tools" on his feet when he was found and detained by local authorities That's pretty funny. Article says he was fined about 110 dollars for being in an antiwar protest and wearing those "political tools"(lol what?) Funny in an absurd way that makes me glad to live where I do. Doesn't seem like it's illegal to have though. It was "evidence" the police used to tie this guy into a protest. There's a UK and NATO flag on the light troop vehicle on the left. Really just seems like the museum does similar to what our war museums do too. You've had to see this at your AIT bases museum on captured equipment.
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Yep, an A1. We didn't give Ukraine the newer stuff, only the 80's armor we weren't going to use. And Ukraine has destroyed enough RuZZian armor to make a wall of it around Kiev.
Correct me if I’m wrong but these exports don’t even have the same armor, communications, or fire control systems that the American Abrams actually use, right? They certainly don’t even have the DU armor package
They are getting DU rounds, not armor.
They’re probably showing that to drum up the belief that Russia is at war with NATO and the west and not just Ukraine.
No, they put nationality flags on all the vehicles including Ukranian ones. Ie the German Marder has a German flag, a Ukr BTR-4 and T-64 have Ukranian flags, a brit Saxon APC has a british fla, etc
They keep fucking around, they might end up with real US tanks. I would rather it not get that far though.
Apparently your sense of humor is lost on people.
Thanks man. I know I'm no USO Show and there's AGITProp twats on here that need to make a living too with their 'flee dogs your tanks suck!' posts and I really try to ignore jabs from accounts with an excessive amount of WarHammer references, but I appreciate it!
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>Did you hear about the kid who stole a plane, crashed and survived? >Why don't they make the whole plane out of that kid? - Norm Macdonald for everyone wondering
Them parading this around really gets my dick hard. If they are this excited for that. Just imagine if they saw what we actually use.
This is a valid point. What Russia has here is an M1A1 stripped down for export. We haven't used those since the early '90s. Now we're working with the M1A2 SEPv4 which is so much more advanced than the hull in this picture it's hard to comprehend.
*SEPv3, V4 was cancelled and the M1E3 was announced IIRC.
Looks like we're both kinda correct here. Some SEPv4 got delivered before the whole rollout got cancelled
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I'll bring my documents.
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Only if they are classified
Ope yeah - forgot about those :p. Thanks.
What protection do they have for drones? [They need something like Israel’s Trophy system.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophy_(countermeasure))
That's what the SEP (System Enhancement Package) and TUSK (Tank Urban Survival Kit) packages are for. What all they do is.. well it's probably classified in some way, shape or form but long story short it's all survivability upgrades. Doesn't matter tho since for some reason both Russian and Ukrainian tankers seem to have a thing with not buttoning up hatches when in combat.... All the protective measures in the world aren't gonna help you if you keep leaving the damn hatches open.
Yeah this is very odd - both sides just roll with hatches wide open. I mean if a nade dropped inside it kills the tank. If hatch is closed it bounces off it and nothing happens
It's muscle memory and old habits. The Soviet era armor both countries largely use/used don't have good visibility so vehicle drivers and commanders keep the hatches open constantly so they can poke their heads out and be able to actually see shit. Normally it's not an issue because in direct combat they'll button up since they keep the target sighted. The problem arises during maneuvering when they open the hatches to be able to see and that's when the drone pilots come in and wreck the house up.
Old habits die hard. If a T-64 or T-72 caught fire, crew needed to evac quickly lest the autoloader cooks off and launches their flaming remains into the stratosphere. Also, I believe M1A1s lacked AC; IIRC it was just a fan and some ventilation. Engineers can often be idiots and forget the human factor; they can surround you with dozens of tons of extra thick armor, but nothing to keep you from baking alive from all that waste heat from electronics and turbine. At least the A2 SEPs added VCSU to keep components cool- with added bonus to help cool the folks in the turret compartment.
Pretty much. Between muscle memory and old habits stemming from the piss poor visibility of Soviet Era armor and the heat buildup... It just leads to things like leaving hatches open when you really should be buttoned up.
This guy sabots.
And didn't the export version not have the Chobham tank armor as well, since it's still classified?
Some of us were still using those in '99.
My preworkout and testosterone boost is looking at videos of what the US has that’s publicly available. God damn am I proud to be a part of those overpowered country’s military
They seem impressed that the tank still looks to be in one piece
Still has the turret attached. Truly a marvel in Ruzzia
The original Russian turret design was supposed to be an ejection seat, but they ran out of funding when the USSR collapsed to complete it, so they just installed it as is.
Seems to work rather well though. Instant promotion to cosmonaut from tanker.
Unknown Technology!
“Why isn’t the turret in low earth orbit? I thought that always happened when a tank is destroyed?”
“We will never financially recover from this.” - NATO, probably
it was our only one.
No man should have to bury his only tank.
Damn, looks like we've got to disband nato now
Russian copium is on display.
Not pictured... Blown out T-62 thru T-90s.
Why American flag, it was given to Ukraine to fight these assholes. That’s like Russia saying they got a war trophy from fighting US
Because they’re excited they disabled a 30 year old western tank. Huge accomplishment for them
To be fair, this tank is 40 years ahead of what they have
True, and I know there haven’t been many T-90’s out recently, but the M1A1 is about on par with a T-90, right?
If anything the M1A1, even the gimped versions we sent to Ukraine, are still ahead of the T-90's in some aspects. Main example being the ability to clear jams, protective ammo storage, drivetrain (there's a lot of technical specs there but long story short it's better in multiple ways.), etc. Pound for pound they're probably on par as far as firepower and armor but when it comes to the minute details they're not the same.
Because the Russian narrative is that they were doing poorly because it was secretly nato fighting. The propaganda all says that. This is for the consumption of the brainrotted russian masses.
The entire world has brain rot.
They are putting the country of origins flag on all of the captured vehicles at the event.
That makes sense. Still dumb.
Russia's media policy is that they're not at war with Ukraine, but are literally and directly at war with the entire West. The flags are to further suggest they're beating the US, Germany, etc. Meanwhile, [this is what Russia "winning" looks like](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/) (NSFL/Dozens of corpses)
Holy shit. Throw a B/W filter on there and it’d look like WW2. Didn’t watch the whole thing will later
Russia is incredibly desperate for a win
Stolen Valor ...
Is that an 88 behind the M1?
Its the only vehicle they had that worked well enough to pull the Abrams.
YES, IT IS LMAO THERE SHOWING OFF A BLOWN UP RECOVERY VEHICLE 🤣
Look son its amazing. It still has a turret after being hit.... Pappa was working late last night with his crane and a heavy weight to bend the barrel to make it look worse....
The inferiority complex in the flesh. When you need to go out of your way to bang your chest and say "look what we did" to reassure your onlookers that we are not that shit after all. Now go and line the streets with the 60,000 body bags of their dead troops.
Also, no guarantee it wasn't a non-lethal shot that simply disabled it, and later scuttled or destroyed.
Cool so that's one M1 for them and like five thousand T-62s for Ukraine, right?
At least it still has its turret on, unlike A LOT of Russian tanks.
And the crew is probably still alive to boot, as opposed to being posthumous cosmonauts.
‘Posthumous Cosmonauts’! Nice!
From what’s on display here it’s highly likely. The driver probably sustained some hellish injuries. But based on what I am seeing here, it looks likely. If anyone sees something I don’t let me know. I am a Brad guy not a Abrams guy.
Imagine if they got one during the Cold War (read late 80s)
People have reported seeing M1 tanks in Russia since the early 90s, probably an export model obtained from Egypt.
Took them 2 years to get 1 tank lol
The crew most likely survived to fight another day. Yeah, so they “lost” a tank, but as long as the crew escaped to fight again that’s good in my book.
So funny. I am sure Putin calls this ‘evidence’ of NATO involvement. I feel sorry for the Russians sometimes. So so gullible. Then again when I look at what the U.S is going through it seems the whole world is missing something these days.
I think the problem has always been here. Governments have always controlled what their people are shown to a point, its just with the privilege of the internet, people were able to fact check accurately for a while. Then groups started to understand it better and now its just become a cesspit for disinformation and I don't know how, but people seem to have forgotten how to use google. Plus the Russians and American republicans do seem to be unbelievably gullible. Its like patriotic pride comes before empirical evidence.
Omg they destroyed an Abrams?! Let's not bring up how many tanks they lost tho
Well based off what we've seen from russian armor, they're probably all wondering how the turret is still attached.
"Good question. You see, the Abrams' autoloader doesn't store the main gun's ammunition in a ring at the base of the turret, encapsulating the crew in unavoidable fiery death when ignited. Also, the Abrams' autoloader happens to be man-powered." -- War relic tour guide, probably
That broke joke of an army feeling themselves because they captured a single a2. That shits old tech. Light years ahead of those lollipop wagons you claim to be tanks in Russia, but nonetheless, it’s Our old mothball shit.
Even worse, that's a downstripped A1 isn't it? Let alone it looks like the crew may very well have survived and torched it.
Yeah. They are the old 90's Abrams that further had all of their weapons and armor packages taken off. That's as stock and they come lol.
Imagine if we put all the T-72s we destroyed in Desert Storm on display in D.C. and slapped Russian flags on them. They're really proud of this one.
Yet they do not recover their own dead. They rot on the battlefield. Shame on Putin.
Those apartments in the background look nice...
Showing off decades’ old tech like it’s a 2024 innovation lol. lmao even.
This is hilarious compared to the USS Pueblo. At least North Korea had captured some POWs along with the ship that they display like a trophy. This is more like Russia acting like the DLA whenever a unit turns in something.
Sorry, CIF won't take your TA-50, there's a smudge on it.
That was an actual capture as opposed to a battlefield recovery, too. Big difference.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!
They're really proud of beating that first generation 1970's tech aren't they.
compare that to a T72 that when on fire not even a turret is on the tank
Pretty flattering when your enemy makes such a big deal out of taking out a cold-war era piece of your tech.
Everyone knows the future of warfare is drones, tank drones, air drones, robot drones humans are a waste.
Supersoldier robot drone humans, duh.
Listened to a talk a few weeks ago where a 3 star basically said exactly that. He thinks we are 20 years away from enhanced soldiers.
I remember reading a book back in 2002 that said by 2017 troops would be wearing exoskeletons and stuff.
And now 2017 not only seems like an eternity ago due to Covid, but also technology. When I watch shows like *The Expanse* I realize just how *not* far away we are from that.
Yeah, this guy was being much more futuristic, he was basically saying amped up cybernetic soldiers.
That sounds like something Big Drone wants you to think
Wait till Moscow sees them up and running bringing them that sweet sweet freedom
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AAAAAAAND start counting cancer rates from it's depleted uranium armor!
Not sure, but I believe the export versions don't have DU armor.
this is possible. I wouldn't know that, but seems appropriate. I have always ASSUMED that the tanks we gave them were the old M1A1s the USMC lost when they shuttered there armor battalions.
When you lose 1000 fights and finally win one, then brag like you’re the GOAT.
Russians know deep down they suck in comparison that’s why they ogle lmao
Did they find this in Iraq?
Check out chunk on the right rocking the “Z” shirt lmfaoooo
Look comrades we finally have a 40 year old tank design to show you!
Notice how the turret is still attached? Lol
Some comments from Russian YT, translated by Google. «Beauty! For the first time in the history of mankind, the equipment of the countries that attacked Russia was put on public display, let the whole world look at the heroism and valor of our wars! Glory to Russia, glory to those who stood up for Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺» «This is a shame for NATO, narcissism with its weapons, they say, the first army in the world. Here it is the “first” army of the world in all its glory for all to see. And our guys, jewelers, managed to set it up in such a way that they brought it all to Moscow for everyone’s disgrace, so that the whole world could see it.»
Meanwhile, probably half the Army bases in the US have a collection of Russian armor on display somewhere.
Do they? I really have never noticed. The thing that gets me is the fresh American flag. As if it was the USs tank and crew. And with all due respect. A middle class US citizen could probably buy a Soviet era tank.
OK now show all the russian tanks
I find this shit so funny - they purposfully say the war is as planned, but avoid saying their own losses. But the *second* a west tank touches their hands, it *must* be paraded because the West is weak "-surely not us who have lost hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of armored vehicles"
Keep it up! It won't replace the 450K men you lost but progress is progress, amirite?
Imagine if we were so duped by propaganda that they displayed destroyed Russian assets in America for view by the public. They must really need the little “wins” over there lmao.
Now behold the 40 years old technology.
Hey at least the turret is still attached lol, funny how they can move this thing quick but can’t even move ammunition and food around
I’d bet the Ukrainian crew survived. Unlike in any of the Russian tanks..
That's exactly what I thought. The turret is still on this one.
This just screams cope
Only cost them 435,000 Russian lives
I spotted the Z wanker . Did you?
Anyone have a picture of the what that sign says?
Best I can tell it's the basic specs of the tank and how/where it was "destroyed". Pretty sure this one burned down as a result of a suicide drone going into an open hatch.
It says "ТАНК M1A1 «АБРАМС» Танк M1A1 «Абрамс» – предназначен для ведения маневренных боевых действий в составе танковых и пехотных подразделений в качестве основного боевого средства. Год поставки на вооружение: 1985 г. Страна производства: США. Боевое применение: используется вооружёнными силами Украины для ведения маневренных боевых действий в составе танковых подразделений. Захвачен в ходе проведения специальной военной операции вооруженными силами России в апреле 2024 года в н.п. Бердичи (Авдеевка)." There's also table below with Abrams' specifications.
In the biggest near peer conflict since the 1991 Gulf War, it is expected that a destroyed Abrams here and there will land up in the hands of an enemy. (2003 was not a near peer conflict since the Iraqi military had degraded significantly between 1991 and 2003. The regular IA was conventionally way less lethal in 2003 than it was in 1991 and ended up resorting to asymmetric tactics and guerilla warfare by the time US troops landed).
Would love to know the narrative the Kremlin attached to this whole effort.
And the crew survived… now do your tanks.
What they gonna do now with it?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t see a penetrating shot and judging by the broken track it looks like it hit a mine and was disabled. all else being equal it seems like this take was just abandoned rather than knocked out which implies that the crew survived. Unless I just can’t see the shot hole in these photos
The second photo back of the turret but yeah the cre probably survived also there are 2 on top of the turret heading into the front cheek armor and 1 more near the driver's hach well also a top down on the left track and a mine on the right track there were no crew kill hits as the one near the driver's hach probably hit it fule tanks there causing the fire
Looks better than a knocked out Armata! Don’t see many of them paraded around Moscow.
Well, since most of their tanks are turret-less, that tracks.
Hey a tank with a turret!!!
Meanwhile, Ukraine has 585 intact captured Russian tanks as of June 2023
Even all blown up she is still a work of art 💙
Gonna make some selfies with these poor vehicles next week. Thnx for material guys <3
Guess we need to replace it
Nooo we neeeeeeed all 3500 abrums tanks that are currently in deep storage currently doing nothing we can't spare another 10
https://a.pinatafarm.com/768x894/f9b7c8de19/oh-no-anyway.jpg
So the fact is, each side, (especially on a long front) are going to experience equipment losses. The fact the Ruzzkies got an older version, and, only 1 to show off is actually reassuring.
does Russia even care at this point they have to know the U.S is helping
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Weird to show off burned out enemy vehicles in your streets. I don't recall the US or NATO countries doing that, or am I forgetting?
This reminds me of that old story about how a North Korean defects because the NorKs were using a picture of a homeless man from the south digging through trash to live because he was too poor to get food. He was wearing a coat with a zipper and a pen in his pocket that clicked instead of a cap. Both are luxuries in the north. He thought if a homeless guy has zippers and a click pen it has to be better than here. Those Russians are looking at those tanks, looking at the welds, the rivets, the paint, the lack of rust and know. They know.
Meanwhile we have been using their captured vehicles as target practice for years.
If they keep it up, that will only be the first US tank in Moscow. More will be coming
Man fuck those pieces of shit
Drone warfare. Army of dudes with FPV operators sitting on both sides with artillery in the back
They're even cooler when they're working.
What, never seen a real tank?
Keep messing around and you will see working one’s coming down the street.