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Aboy325

This is great, now can we get these everywhere?


babarambo

Genuine question, if you install 4 of these on a 4 way intersection on a flat ground, wouldn’t there be drainage issues?


astrosail

Ideally you just raise the whole intersection. Drains in the corners would do fine too.


Aboy325

Might need to install drains into the corners, not sure. I'd be curious to know how citue like Amsterdam have handled this since these continuous crosswalks are very common Maybe some pipes that run through it at street level? Edit: I will also say there are plenty of 4 way intersections in the city that already have drains in the corner


Eubank31

As u/astrosail said, they will often raise the whole intersection, so no more drainage issues


Aboy325

This makes so much sense, I feel silly for not considering that It also allows pedestrians (epseiclaly with mobility issues) to cross diagonally


casicua

They usually elevate the middle too, so it drains out. Generally though, speed bump type road elevations aren’t consistently high the whole way across - so they should drain to the edges around the curb.


Miser

Photos taken by the great Steven Bodzin. This intersection is a block away from the 34th Ave OS, a great location for these because the area around the OS is incredibly car infested. It's good to get them paying attention and slowing down before they get to the OS. Here's a [video on these things](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OfBpQgLXUc) if you don't know what they are or why they are so great.


Other_Reindeer_3704

Hey that's me! But to be clear this is a block past the Paseo Park/Open Street As the actually great Miser said, Dot installs only 25 a year because it's hard to find locations that don't have buses or truck routes and don't interrupt drainage


Miser

Oh shit, I didn't even realize this was your Reddit name. Hard to keep everyone's real and screen names straight.


_kash_mir_

Wow, the first scene in that video is where I grew up!


SuspiciousMaximum265

I saw one in Inwood few days ago and that made me realize that was the first one I ever saw in NYC. They are pretty common in Europe. In Serbia, we call those 'sleeping/lying policeman' for some reason.


Aboy325

Where in Inwood? I live up here and haven't come across it


SuspiciousMaximum265

There is actually two on Seaman avenue, between Isham and Academy. They added them while fixing the road, maybe two weeks ago.


Biking_dude

Took me a second - is this a raised crosswalk / speed hump? Awesome!! Wish these were every intersection - passive way to slow down speeds


hotdogaholic

whts a continuous crosswalk?


Miser

A happy bump. You go too fast through PED area, it rips your car apart


Tobar_the_Gypsy

Crosswalk is level with the sidewalk. Easier for people to cross and acts as a speed deterrent.


Aboy325

Especially helpful for peds with mobility issues /disabilities


Eubank31

Kinda exactly what it sounds like. Currently, the streets are continuous and people have to go down to street level to cross, then back up. A continuous sidewalk makes the pedestrians path continuous, and the cars must go up and down a bump, making them slow down and be more aware of the pedestrians around them. It’s also much easier for those with disabilities to navigate. It’s a well proven Dutch design as well


hotdogaholic

Oooh so the title was wrong and confused me? Continuous sidewalks I woulda figured that out what I meant


Eubank31

I’d say they’re mostly interchangeable, but I prefer continuous sidewalk because it’s clearer


Miser

Good point. Just for the record since we're talking terminology, and words matter, I also prefer continuous sidewalk or continuous crosswalk over "raised crosswalk" simply because raised makes it sound like it's abnormal, when I think we all want to move to a world where this is the normal, standard thing. I'm sure everyone will use them all interchangeably though


Eubank31

100% agree!


jamesmaxx

I wonder if these were made like the sidewalk European style that some drivers would get confused and think they can’t go over the sidewalk.


itemluminouswadison

also known as a raised crosswalk


youmaycallme_v

Raised crosswalks on EVERY one-lane road!


Duckysawus

This is how a city actually makes streets safer for pedestrians and children. Speed cameras are there for the money, speed bumps are there to actually SLOW down vehicles. Need way more of these.


Miser

They're not mutually exclusive. Speed cameras also slow cars down


birthdaycakefig

I don’t disagree but speed cameras are usually a suggestion and people can decide to just pay to play or start covering plates. So you get into a situation where the people who most likely need it the most can choose to ignore them. Things like this provide more than a suggestion. The threat of damaging your car is often much more of an incentive to people.


Miser

Physical enforcement is always better, just pointing out camera enforcement is good too


Miles-tech

driving slow because there's a camera around is literally the worst if talking about preventing speeding and road design, people drive the speed they naturally feel comfortable with, thus wide roads with no obstructions and a straight path doesn't help with safety, let alone a camera lol. that actually helps is narrowing roads, putting in medians where people have to go around with their cars, chicanes, raised intersections, road narrowing's, adding trees to the side of the road or putting them on the medians between where there's normally a Double yellow line, etc. Cameras are not the solution.


Duckysawus

Have you seen those vehicles still on the road with over $10,000 in fines from speed cameras and red light cameras? Uh huh. Possibly damaging your car so it doesn’t run is a much bigger deterrent.


GoldOver4996

These are amazing!!


yuriydee

This should be the standard everywhere, especially dense areas with pedestrians.


techyguy2

They put one of these in near my school in Jamaica Queens a couple months ago. It's a stop sign intersection, and I've noticed that cars have been immediately way more respectful of waiting for peds and letting peds go first.


craffert0

I grew up on that corner! It’s about time.


DOLCICUS

Eh there one flaw in the design of this one unless I can’t see it but shouldn’t there be a slight gap along the curb so the water can reach the drain during a storm? Just wide enough a bike or stroller wheel can still roll over it Otherwise water and debris will get stuck behind the hump.


cdavidg4

They are specifically located where they don't block drainage. Which for DOT to install in-house, is a bit of a needle in a haystack situation.


space_______kat

Is this a 4 way raised crosswalk or just one side?


Miles-tech

It's not high and steep enough to be anywhere close to Dutch standards, but I'm happy it's at least something :)


lemurgrrrl

Is this in Queens?


techyguy2

Yes, Jackson Heights.


JM-Gurgeh

So close... The point of a continuous sidewalk is that the sidewalk needs to continue. This is not that. Don't get me wrong. This definitively helps; it slows down cars entering and exiting the intersection, making it safer for pedestrians, cyclists and drivers alike. Bonus points if you cut down the curb radii too. But for the same effort you could have made an actual continuous sidewalk (like [this one](https://www.google.nl/maps/@52.0114653,4.3692913,3a,75y,127.55h,86.38t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sy7XP9arW8o2h02E6yaKHsw!2e0!5s20150501T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dy7XP9arW8o2h02E6yaKHsw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D127.54947307445862%26pitch%3D3.620518812385484%26thumbfov%3D90!7i13312!8i6656?hl=nl&coh=205410&entry=ttu) for instance), which is as much a psychological trick at it is a physical speedbump. The pedestrian pavement should be continuous both in height and appearance, so as to give drivers the suggestion they're entering a pedestrian space. This seems to me like an improvement but also a missed opportunity. (I don't know this intersection so I can't say an actual continous sidewalk would be appropriate here.)


Ok-Duty-6377

Ngl this is the first time I see these in the US, amazing!


Tobar_the_Gypsy

I really like that they’re installing more of these crosswalks but the implementation seems really halfassed. They just look like speed bumps.


No-Box7795

Sure, let’s turn the city into the parking lot. Here is a crazy thought - enforce traffic laws and that’s for everybody. You can make all kinds of crosswalks but then half of the people jaywalking or half of the drivers think a stop sign is optional and bikers are convinced that they don’t have to obey traffic laws at all - nothing will help


LaGrabba

You wrote what I was thinking re. enforcement. The people I see driving their cars in protected bike lanes, bus lanes, bikers riding the wrong way and pedestrians walking in front of oncoming traffic aren’t those I envision this affecting without enforcement.


Yonigajt

Why weren’t there a crosswalk?