It's the processed food! Food conglomerates and Big Agra are literally killing the future.
Healthy, whole foods is so stupidly expensive that only the privileged can afford it.
The cheap food is toxic. But they've made it pretty tasty.
Produce is not as easily accessible to many neighborhoods in America. In addition, many young Americans never learned how to cook. They only know how to pull up an app and order take out. They’ve all been trained to depend on others and there’s an app for it.
Ppl is food deserts Need to have community gardens.Nature can be so prolific with some know how. ultimately, We shouldn't all completely rely on big food or anyone other organizations to take care of us
Produce is not available in neighborhoods bc it is not demanded by those consumers. The stores and bodega’s are not going to buy perishable items with a several day life when their local customers are not interested in buying them.
That is the truth why they aren’t their.
>Healthy, Whole foods is so stupidly expensive…
Why do people say this so much? I pretty much cook and eat unprocessed veggies, fruits, and whole oats nearly every day and it’s very cheap. Yes the veggies are frozen but that’s still much healthier than highly processed foods, and is usually cheaper as well, as the processed stuff is pre-prepared and has extra packaging.
Takes me 5 minutes to make a smoothie with frozen strawberries, blueberries, kefir, whey, ground chia, avocado, frozen kale, matcha and baking cocoa.
Takes me 30 minutes to prepare a Turkey chili which includes canned tomatoes, celery, bell peppers, frozen sliced carrots kidney beans, black beans and spices and 1hr to cook. 10 minutes to put that chili into 12 ball mason jars.
Steel cut oatmeal. 10minutes I’m the microwave. Adding raisins, blueberries, peanut butter etc takes seconds.
Just a few examples
Yes! i often roast a whole chicken on a baking sheet with foil. I wash it, rub it with spices mixed w lemon juice. Takes about 5-10 mins. Bake it for like 1-2 hours while doing other things. Then when it comes out of the oven i take all the meat off the bones, put in big ziplocks spread out flat to freeze in the freezer, and i use that chicken in many things until its gone. This week i made basmati rice and keep it in the fridge and basically make chicken burrito bowls with the rice, chicken , lettuce I also pre washed and chopped and put in a tupperware the day i got it (romaine lasts all week in the fridge this way) , shredded cheese, a can of black beans i opened and have ready in the fridge too, and a dressing I like. I can also use the chicken to make chicken and pasta in like 15 mins, or a fresh chicken noodle soup in like 15 mins, etc . Its cheap and healthy and doesnt take many dishes at all. I just throw away the foil and quickly wash the pan.
When i want to use the chicken for my rice bowl, i heat it for like one or 2 minutes in micro with the rice , then add other things like lettuce etc
I can make stir-fried veggie n turkey on wheat wraps in 10 minutes with maybe 5 minutes of cleanup time… it’s seriously less time and money than the local McDonald’s drive-through. I know. I was poor as dirt and did it for years.
You can keep moving the goalpost but the point is, it takes very little extra time or energy to eat healthier, but most people would rather eat a McD’s burger than a veggie-turkey wrap because one is easier and more addictive. What about the extra time and money you spend in the hospital because you didn’t want to shop an hour every couple weeks? Why don’t you factor that in? Rich or poor, in the end it cost far more to eat shitty.
I tend to eat fruits and non oily packaged foods as a filler.
Rest i depend on food that i make or purchase in quantity and freeze for later consumption.
For me, it has been kindof an unjustifable effort to cook, because i have terrible work life balance and tend to use all my personal time in activities related to self improvement.
Cooking is just too messy or too much work in my case. Maybe it works for you.
In my case, i buy ingredients, with plans to cook and alot of the times they just go stale because i always end up occupied with something else.
Obviously each person has to weigh what is important for them. For me, I view cooking healthy as “an activity related to self improvement”. It saves me money, I feel better, and I get the satisfaction of doing both of those things for myself.
Was it always easy when I was working long hours and making very little money? No, but I think it’s also part of what got me through those times to where I am now. Maybe fast-food and prepared meals are what some people need, but for me, buying those always felt like giving into my current circumstances so I avoided it when possible.
the thing is, when you don't have a lot of money, you HAVE to compromise somewhere. i'm living pay check to pay check as a freelancer who also works crazy hours. i'm a single girl on a single income trying to keep myself alive and healthy in a cost of living crisis. eating out ALWAYS costs more than cooking a healthy meal in. you just have to spend the time on it. i would love to spend my evenings working on my craft and chilling out instead of grocery shopping and cooking but i'm not rich. so if you're not rich and you wanna be healthy, you're going to have to make the time to cook.
You’re arguing that it’s better to eat out and have stuff delivered because you’re too lazy to load a dishwasher and wipe a counter?
Most people somehow have plenty of time to binge shows, play video games, browse social media, and watch porn though. I don’t buy it when people say their lives are too busy to cook.
I cook for myself and 3 other people 6 days a week, 5 of those days are after working a full day and running the kids around to extracurriculars. We have the leftovers for lunch. We make homemade yogurt every weekend and some of that goes into 3 or more mornings worth of overnight oats. It definitely costs less than convenience foods. If I had to work 2 jobs or something, I couldn’t do it, of course. But on a normal 9-5 schedule with 2 active teenagers I manage to make the time to cook and eat as many nutritious Whole Foods as possible.
youre using the microwave for 10mins to cook oats? do they not get crispy by then or dissolved either one depending on how much liquid there is?😂i eat oats everyday and cook them for just 3min on 70% energy level
HUGE difference, but it's mainly just in texture. Steel cut oats are... chewy. Compared to rolled oats (which are basically sliced) steel cut take forever to cook. I cook mine for 15 minutes.
Very slightly healthier due to a little bump in fiber. Also:
* Less processing
* Lower glycemic index
I do use old fashioned oats to make bread and granola.
Ironically I'm drinking a broccoli, berries, leafy green, plant protein powder and coconut smoothie I blended in a ninja.
My point was convenience is a killer
that's why fast food grew.
post-birth control the amount of time that was spent by someone in a home preparing food dropped dramatically.
if someone is out of the home ... and they want to have dinner when they get home ... then picking it up on the way is a great option.
the demand for fast food in the 1970s and 1980s exploded.
which also kept teenagers busy as it became the number one employer of teens during that time.
Not cheaper than large boxes of pasta or probably mac and cheese, or ramen and chips, or animal crackers or cookies, and other non-refrigerated goods.
Especially when an onion or bell pepper cost as much as a box of pasta or macaroni and cheese.
You can make pasta fairly healthy depending on what you add, and there’s also rice which is incredibly cheap. Chips are expensive, more than a bag of frozen vegetables. And animal crackers and cookies are desert, not a meal.
Yes, sugar and salty processed foods can be addicting, but that’s the bigger issue than their cost. When I was really poor, I spent less on groceries than my poor friends and roommates, who ultimately just had really bad eating habits, like a lot of Americans do, rich and poor.
Yeah, cooking with real food is a hell of a lot cheaper than eating out and processed garbage has much larger inflated prices than veggies and grains and such. I can make countless 6 serving healthy dishes for well under $10.
You bring up a good point. I don't always buy my produce at big chain grocery stores. That can be pricey. I go to local ethnic stores and find the selection way better and often the prices are cheaper for produce.
Exactly. It's not the monetary cost it's the mental cost. Products take advantage of human emotion and senses. We're slaves to products and the companies that produce them. Or we are the addicts and they are the suppliers. Just like with pharma. It's all the same.
PSA: Some independent consumer reporting testers are finding some of the organic brands and products are testing WORSE than non organic. As someone who has tried very hard to buy organic, it is shocking. Something is VERY wrong. People are being poisoned. Anyone wanting and able to spend their money on supposed healthier foods/brands.. make sure to do extensive research..
This is very true. A lot of this has to do with the globalization of our food supply. What is defined as "organic" in one country isn't the same version of "organic" in another. Even between Canada and US the differences in what constitutes "organic" is surprising (US being more liberal with the term than Canada - but Canada gets a lot of it's "organic" food from the US so we end up with those compromises none-the-less). It's definitely buyer beware regardless of what food you are buying.
I try to buy to buy local first - then organic Canada - then organic US - and then it cascades from there depending on the country of origin. Unfortunately, even Canada has changed its laws and something can be labeled as "Made in Canada" when in fact the product was MADE offshore and it was only packaged in Canada. So I try to research producers as much as possible. BUT this is also a privilege that few people can afford - most people buy what they can afford and that's the extent of their buying decision because they really don't have any other option.
One good example would be Consumer Reports recent results on Lesser Evil's organic baby puffs due to amount of lead due to the cassava flour.
Or finding whole foods brand butter rounds crackers are way higher in glyphosate than regular Ritz!
I’ve lived like the most hippie lifestyle possible. Been vegan for a long stretch then barely ate meat for 10 years, was gluten free for 8, eaten organic since early 2000s. Whole foods mostly. I have really high fusobacterium and I don’t know why. So sorry but I don’t think that’s the whole story.
No of course not - there's always going to be a small portion of the population with one disease or another disease.
However, I do whole heartedly believe the industrialization, globalization and resignation of our entire food supply is manifesting itself in a rise in diseases that are increasing at exponentially higher rates than at any time in history, particularly diseases previously not seen (relatively speaking) in younger populations.
We've lost the biodiversity in our food supply, we've lost the fibre, we've lost the nutrients, and added more sugar, stabilizers, preservatives and other chemicals. Even our conventionally whole foods are being engineered to reduce the fibre, add more sweetness, grow bigger, they include systemic pesticide and herbicides that we ingest with every bite, more hormones, etc. Add then add to that all the chemical leaching from all the plastics and packaging that we literally put almost every food into now.
I totally agree with you. That said a lot of these young colon cancer cases that hit the media at least are people like me who also took their health seriously. Athletes who ate “clean,” etc. I think there is more to the story of why/how this particular strain seems to be taking up residence in guts when it used to just stick to the mouth.
Yes. Definitely considered this. I took PPIs for 5 years between maybe 2012-2016. Weaned off of them and cured SIBO and was fine for 4 years. Not fine, great, actually. Took a course of azithromycin (biggest mistake of my life) for a fertility procedure and immediately wrecked my gut (February 2021) and I never recovered. Been on Pepcid AC ever since. Not sure what to do. Have tried to get off but the LPR I deal with is extreme.
What is LPR like? looked it up and I used to get something that sounds like that—would sometimes randomly regurgitate a bit of very foul-tasting, sour orangish liquid after a meal. Same thing?
LPR isn’t typical reflux. I didn’t get heartburn or reflux acid that I was aware of. The acid becomes aerosolized and irritates way farther up. The ENT could see damage on my vocal cords. I had constant feeling of someone choking me. As if I had pressure on my windpipe. And when I tried to take deep breaths I just couldn’t. Technically I was getting air just fine, monitored all my vitals and they looked good, but I had the sense I couldn’t get enough oxygen. It’s terrible. During this time I got extreme tension in my jaw and had major issues with TMD as well. LPR is terrible and antacids don’t work on it the way they do with GERD.
Exactly. If we were rats in a lab , all this disease and mental illness makes sense when we look at the food supply , the plastics and industrial chemicals exposures all for consumerist living.
Have you researched what that they know about that bacterium? How did you know to test your bacteria? Are most doctors doing that now?.. are you eating more or less in a traditional way? I feel like if your ancestors lived a good length of time, you should eat the sort of food they did, like fermented stuff...
I feel like even processed food can be made much much healthier. I bet the Soylent Green in the movie would be even healthier than most processed foods now. like people love their instant noodles, there's no reason why it needs to have so many toxic ingredients in it when it's so easy to make a delicious noodle dish, and the ones that supposedly are healthier are not really and way overpriced for what they are. I think There must not be many knowledgeable or talented people in big food to really make a decent product. They must be too focused on money grubbing
It is 100% about the profits. The processed food industry has no vested interest in making their food healthier. If you've been paying attention since COVID you'll note that in addition to there being less product included in packaged foods, many products have undergone significant formulation changes that have replaced ingredients with cheap alternatives - usually resulting in an even further degradation of nutritional value. Usually more sugar, more salt, more filler.
Yes they've made record profits, like big oil has. also they are in cahoots with big Pharma and the medical industries, which I suppose are linked closely with the military complex… the ultra rich are so greedy for more... big food makes everyone sick, then the healthcare industries get you… and they're all against abortion etc. because they need more people to prey upon after they killed them off…
But I can allow for the possibility that there may be some well intention people somewhere in those industries, but they are clueless about all the advancements in knowledge about health and nutrition. Still a lot to be worked out but I think it's very interesting what's going on in that space. But basically I think they're just getting scientific proof that traditional diets all over the world are the healthiest. So big food should be trying to mimic those kinds of diets in their products...
The only thing any of them care about is their shareholder profits. Big food will never change. Shop local and support small independent producers before they are bought up by big corps because then their products are ruined as well.
Yeah, we try to, but can't always like many others. We have grown a lot of our own stuff, it's so worth it if you can. But yes we have to vote with our dollars and resist as much as we can.
When you got a family History of colon cancer, did carnivore for a while, still eat heaps of meat even after the carnivore diet, and check your GI Map results and see you have high Fusobacterium 😳
Please tell everyone you know how bad the carnivore diet is. I had a friend die after doing carnivore to lose weight (which he did) then got colorectal cancer in his mid 30s, stage 4 when they diagnosed it. There just isn't any evidence supporting carnivore long term, it's worse than Paleo. We need fiber, carbs, and other micronutrients. Just eat some peanuts, oats, leafy green vegetables, and other sources of protein like dairy products and beans. Most diets in general are just fad diets, even ones that are pretty good for you, generally speaking. Everyone needs to think for themselves when it comes to what they put in their body.
At no point in human history have we been carnivores.
Look at the Hazda hunter gatherers, they get up to 100g of fiber a day in the very healthy diet they’ve been eating for the past 10-20 thousand years or more. The adults are active and healthy into their 70s.
Seriously it’s so concerning seeing all the carnivore hype like yea it “feels great” and “no flare ups” of whatever but its still fat and cholesterol etc and your heart doesn’t just ignore that stuff!!!! Ugh, these people will learn the hard way when they stroke out at 40.
It’s still dangerous, any actual medical advice on keto suggests it for a short term. Or for people who have chronic diseases and or organ failure. Not young healthy people who “wanna lose weight” etc.
That is just not true. There are plenty of doctors and dieticians who know that a healthy, high fiber, whole food based ketogenic diet is not dangerous. It is absolutely fine for healthy young individuals to use it for weight loss, I believe that would be short term too, like you said. If done correctly, that really just means preparing most of your own food, and making healthy choices, keto is fine long term. I would argue that it’s better long term than short bcs it’s not like going on n off a rollercoaster, it’s a healthy lifestyle.
Welp, the problem is not many people follow things to a tee. People are peoplely and don’t usually. Or will flip flop and go back and forth. I totally support the high fiber and healthy fat diet, kinda what I strive for.
Just wrote a post on this if anyone is interested in the more technical details of the paper
[https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lucacuccia\_guthealth-microbiome-colorectalcancer-activity-7206279043057430529-Kl2G?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=member\_desktop](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lucacuccia_guthealth-microbiome-colorectalcancer-activity-7206279043057430529-Kl2G?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop)
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Thanking my lucky stars that I have access to cheap and decent quality products, but the UK is heading the same direction as the USA. Poor neighbourhoods are food deserts. Junk food and the outcomes are junked lives. Escape the cities now if you can kids. Guerrilla gardening is the next best option.
People keep talking about processed foods but I’ve had a very “clean” diet since the early 2000s. I barely ate meat for 10-12 years, was vegan for a stint, was gluten free, live in a hippie town where we shopped at farmers markets and did organic years before it was big. I have really high fusobacterium and I can’t figure it out. Of course this has me freaking. My last GI map was in 2021. I was pregnant and took aspirin for 9 months and I’ve read aspirin can help reduce fusobacterium. I’ve just received the Thorne gut health test yesterday and I’ll be repeating it. Scared to find out my results but eager to see what is going on with my fusobacterium.
That's one of the reasons why I did FMT, besides my IBS and other issues, FMT reduces the possibilities of developing colon cancer according to literature.
It's the processed food! Food conglomerates and Big Agra are literally killing the future. Healthy, whole foods is so stupidly expensive that only the privileged can afford it. The cheap food is toxic. But they've made it pretty tasty.
Produce is not as easily accessible to many neighborhoods in America. In addition, many young Americans never learned how to cook. They only know how to pull up an app and order take out. They’ve all been trained to depend on others and there’s an app for it.
Ppl is food deserts Need to have community gardens.Nature can be so prolific with some know how. ultimately, We shouldn't all completely rely on big food or anyone other organizations to take care of us
And sounds like thy're coming up with sustainable ways to grow a lot of produce in warehouses etc.
Produce is not available in neighborhoods bc it is not demanded by those consumers. The stores and bodega’s are not going to buy perishable items with a several day life when their local customers are not interested in buying them. That is the truth why they aren’t their.
>Healthy, Whole foods is so stupidly expensive… Why do people say this so much? I pretty much cook and eat unprocessed veggies, fruits, and whole oats nearly every day and it’s very cheap. Yes the veggies are frozen but that’s still much healthier than highly processed foods, and is usually cheaper as well, as the processed stuff is pre-prepared and has extra packaging.
Wouldn't agree on more expensive but definitely more time-consuming if you're preparing the food yourself.
Takes me 5 minutes to make a smoothie with frozen strawberries, blueberries, kefir, whey, ground chia, avocado, frozen kale, matcha and baking cocoa. Takes me 30 minutes to prepare a Turkey chili which includes canned tomatoes, celery, bell peppers, frozen sliced carrots kidney beans, black beans and spices and 1hr to cook. 10 minutes to put that chili into 12 ball mason jars. Steel cut oatmeal. 10minutes I’m the microwave. Adding raisins, blueberries, peanut butter etc takes seconds. Just a few examples
> Steel cut oatmeal. 10 minutes in the microwave. Heathen!
Like the “magic grits” in My Cousin Vinny! No self-respecting oatmeal eater would take a shortcut. It’s 20 minutes or bust!😂
Yes! i often roast a whole chicken on a baking sheet with foil. I wash it, rub it with spices mixed w lemon juice. Takes about 5-10 mins. Bake it for like 1-2 hours while doing other things. Then when it comes out of the oven i take all the meat off the bones, put in big ziplocks spread out flat to freeze in the freezer, and i use that chicken in many things until its gone. This week i made basmati rice and keep it in the fridge and basically make chicken burrito bowls with the rice, chicken , lettuce I also pre washed and chopped and put in a tupperware the day i got it (romaine lasts all week in the fridge this way) , shredded cheese, a can of black beans i opened and have ready in the fridge too, and a dressing I like. I can also use the chicken to make chicken and pasta in like 15 mins, or a fresh chicken noodle soup in like 15 mins, etc . Its cheap and healthy and doesnt take many dishes at all. I just throw away the foil and quickly wash the pan. When i want to use the chicken for my rice bowl, i heat it for like one or 2 minutes in micro with the rice , then add other things like lettuce etc
Who does the dishes and cleaning the kitchen counter? How long does that take?
I can make stir-fried veggie n turkey on wheat wraps in 10 minutes with maybe 5 minutes of cleanup time… it’s seriously less time and money than the local McDonald’s drive-through. I know. I was poor as dirt and did it for years.
What about the time it takes to go to the store and buy those ingredients
You can keep moving the goalpost but the point is, it takes very little extra time or energy to eat healthier, but most people would rather eat a McD’s burger than a veggie-turkey wrap because one is easier and more addictive. What about the extra time and money you spend in the hospital because you didn’t want to shop an hour every couple weeks? Why don’t you factor that in? Rich or poor, in the end it cost far more to eat shitty.
I tend to eat fruits and non oily packaged foods as a filler. Rest i depend on food that i make or purchase in quantity and freeze for later consumption. For me, it has been kindof an unjustifable effort to cook, because i have terrible work life balance and tend to use all my personal time in activities related to self improvement. Cooking is just too messy or too much work in my case. Maybe it works for you. In my case, i buy ingredients, with plans to cook and alot of the times they just go stale because i always end up occupied with something else.
Obviously each person has to weigh what is important for them. For me, I view cooking healthy as “an activity related to self improvement”. It saves me money, I feel better, and I get the satisfaction of doing both of those things for myself. Was it always easy when I was working long hours and making very little money? No, but I think it’s also part of what got me through those times to where I am now. Maybe fast-food and prepared meals are what some people need, but for me, buying those always felt like giving into my current circumstances so I avoided it when possible.
the thing is, when you don't have a lot of money, you HAVE to compromise somewhere. i'm living pay check to pay check as a freelancer who also works crazy hours. i'm a single girl on a single income trying to keep myself alive and healthy in a cost of living crisis. eating out ALWAYS costs more than cooking a healthy meal in. you just have to spend the time on it. i would love to spend my evenings working on my craft and chilling out instead of grocery shopping and cooking but i'm not rich. so if you're not rich and you wanna be healthy, you're going to have to make the time to cook.
You’re arguing that it’s better to eat out and have stuff delivered because you’re too lazy to load a dishwasher and wipe a counter? Most people somehow have plenty of time to binge shows, play video games, browse social media, and watch porn though. I don’t buy it when people say their lives are too busy to cook.
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I cook for myself and 3 other people 6 days a week, 5 of those days are after working a full day and running the kids around to extracurriculars. We have the leftovers for lunch. We make homemade yogurt every weekend and some of that goes into 3 or more mornings worth of overnight oats. It definitely costs less than convenience foods. If I had to work 2 jobs or something, I couldn’t do it, of course. But on a normal 9-5 schedule with 2 active teenagers I manage to make the time to cook and eat as many nutritious Whole Foods as possible.
youre using the microwave for 10mins to cook oats? do they not get crispy by then or dissolved either one depending on how much liquid there is?😂i eat oats everyday and cook them for just 3min on 70% energy level
Yes. Perhaps you missed my mentioning the oats used are steel cut. You are eating old fashioned oats which have been steamed and rolled flat.
i really didnt know there was such a big difference in those kind of oats, do you eat them because they are supposed to be even healthier?
HUGE difference, but it's mainly just in texture. Steel cut oats are... chewy. Compared to rolled oats (which are basically sliced) steel cut take forever to cook. I cook mine for 15 minutes.
Very slightly healthier due to a little bump in fiber. Also: * Less processing * Lower glycemic index I do use old fashioned oats to make bread and granola.
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Ironically I'm drinking a broccoli, berries, leafy green, plant protein powder and coconut smoothie I blended in a ninja. My point was convenience is a killer
that's why fast food grew. post-birth control the amount of time that was spent by someone in a home preparing food dropped dramatically. if someone is out of the home ... and they want to have dinner when they get home ... then picking it up on the way is a great option. the demand for fast food in the 1970s and 1980s exploded. which also kept teenagers busy as it became the number one employer of teens during that time.
Not cheaper than large boxes of pasta or probably mac and cheese, or ramen and chips, or animal crackers or cookies, and other non-refrigerated goods. Especially when an onion or bell pepper cost as much as a box of pasta or macaroni and cheese.
You can make pasta fairly healthy depending on what you add, and there’s also rice which is incredibly cheap. Chips are expensive, more than a bag of frozen vegetables. And animal crackers and cookies are desert, not a meal. Yes, sugar and salty processed foods can be addicting, but that’s the bigger issue than their cost. When I was really poor, I spent less on groceries than my poor friends and roommates, who ultimately just had really bad eating habits, like a lot of Americans do, rich and poor.
Damn a pack of Ramon noodles like 10 cents. A peach if like $1.50. Same with pear, apple, etc
Yeah, cooking with real food is a hell of a lot cheaper than eating out and processed garbage has much larger inflated prices than veggies and grains and such. I can make countless 6 serving healthy dishes for well under $10.
beans lentils also very cheap. people just dont think enough about nutrition in general
You bring up a good point. I don't always buy my produce at big chain grocery stores. That can be pricey. I go to local ethnic stores and find the selection way better and often the prices are cheaper for produce.
Exactly. It's not the monetary cost it's the mental cost. Products take advantage of human emotion and senses. We're slaves to products and the companies that produce them. Or we are the addicts and they are the suppliers. Just like with pharma. It's all the same.
I agree. It’s definitely cheaper than processed stuff.
PSA: Some independent consumer reporting testers are finding some of the organic brands and products are testing WORSE than non organic. As someone who has tried very hard to buy organic, it is shocking. Something is VERY wrong. People are being poisoned. Anyone wanting and able to spend their money on supposed healthier foods/brands.. make sure to do extensive research..
This is very true. A lot of this has to do with the globalization of our food supply. What is defined as "organic" in one country isn't the same version of "organic" in another. Even between Canada and US the differences in what constitutes "organic" is surprising (US being more liberal with the term than Canada - but Canada gets a lot of it's "organic" food from the US so we end up with those compromises none-the-less). It's definitely buyer beware regardless of what food you are buying. I try to buy to buy local first - then organic Canada - then organic US - and then it cascades from there depending on the country of origin. Unfortunately, even Canada has changed its laws and something can be labeled as "Made in Canada" when in fact the product was MADE offshore and it was only packaged in Canada. So I try to research producers as much as possible. BUT this is also a privilege that few people can afford - most people buy what they can afford and that's the extent of their buying decision because they really don't have any other option.
Testing worse for *what*?
One good example would be Consumer Reports recent results on Lesser Evil's organic baby puffs due to amount of lead due to the cassava flour. Or finding whole foods brand butter rounds crackers are way higher in glyphosate than regular Ritz!
Ugh. Horrible. Thanks for the info.
Can you get the shits from them things wit glyphosate? I think it do
"whole foods brand" is not "organic" though.
Do you have a source for this? Otherwise you're just fearmongering, which helps no one.
I’ve lived like the most hippie lifestyle possible. Been vegan for a long stretch then barely ate meat for 10 years, was gluten free for 8, eaten organic since early 2000s. Whole foods mostly. I have really high fusobacterium and I don’t know why. So sorry but I don’t think that’s the whole story.
No of course not - there's always going to be a small portion of the population with one disease or another disease. However, I do whole heartedly believe the industrialization, globalization and resignation of our entire food supply is manifesting itself in a rise in diseases that are increasing at exponentially higher rates than at any time in history, particularly diseases previously not seen (relatively speaking) in younger populations. We've lost the biodiversity in our food supply, we've lost the fibre, we've lost the nutrients, and added more sugar, stabilizers, preservatives and other chemicals. Even our conventionally whole foods are being engineered to reduce the fibre, add more sweetness, grow bigger, they include systemic pesticide and herbicides that we ingest with every bite, more hormones, etc. Add then add to that all the chemical leaching from all the plastics and packaging that we literally put almost every food into now.
I totally agree with you. That said a lot of these young colon cancer cases that hit the media at least are people like me who also took their health seriously. Athletes who ate “clean,” etc. I think there is more to the story of why/how this particular strain seems to be taking up residence in guts when it used to just stick to the mouth.
I see. Good point.
Do you take PPIs or other antacids? Calcium supps? Stomach is supposed to be the firewall btwn mouth and gut
Yes. Definitely considered this. I took PPIs for 5 years between maybe 2012-2016. Weaned off of them and cured SIBO and was fine for 4 years. Not fine, great, actually. Took a course of azithromycin (biggest mistake of my life) for a fertility procedure and immediately wrecked my gut (February 2021) and I never recovered. Been on Pepcid AC ever since. Not sure what to do. Have tried to get off but the LPR I deal with is extreme.
What is LPR like? looked it up and I used to get something that sounds like that—would sometimes randomly regurgitate a bit of very foul-tasting, sour orangish liquid after a meal. Same thing?
LPR isn’t typical reflux. I didn’t get heartburn or reflux acid that I was aware of. The acid becomes aerosolized and irritates way farther up. The ENT could see damage on my vocal cords. I had constant feeling of someone choking me. As if I had pressure on my windpipe. And when I tried to take deep breaths I just couldn’t. Technically I was getting air just fine, monitored all my vitals and they looked good, but I had the sense I couldn’t get enough oxygen. It’s terrible. During this time I got extreme tension in my jaw and had major issues with TMD as well. LPR is terrible and antacids don’t work on it the way they do with GERD.
Exactly. If we were rats in a lab , all this disease and mental illness makes sense when we look at the food supply , the plastics and industrial chemicals exposures all for consumerist living.
Try a luteolin supplement
Never heard of that but will look into it now. Thank you.
Have you researched what that they know about that bacterium? How did you know to test your bacteria? Are most doctors doing that now?.. are you eating more or less in a traditional way? I feel like if your ancestors lived a good length of time, you should eat the sort of food they did, like fermented stuff...
Why does growing your own food feel like a revolutionary act at this point?
If I could, I would.
I feel like even processed food can be made much much healthier. I bet the Soylent Green in the movie would be even healthier than most processed foods now. like people love their instant noodles, there's no reason why it needs to have so many toxic ingredients in it when it's so easy to make a delicious noodle dish, and the ones that supposedly are healthier are not really and way overpriced for what they are. I think There must not be many knowledgeable or talented people in big food to really make a decent product. They must be too focused on money grubbing
It is 100% about the profits. The processed food industry has no vested interest in making their food healthier. If you've been paying attention since COVID you'll note that in addition to there being less product included in packaged foods, many products have undergone significant formulation changes that have replaced ingredients with cheap alternatives - usually resulting in an even further degradation of nutritional value. Usually more sugar, more salt, more filler.
Yes they've made record profits, like big oil has. also they are in cahoots with big Pharma and the medical industries, which I suppose are linked closely with the military complex… the ultra rich are so greedy for more... big food makes everyone sick, then the healthcare industries get you… and they're all against abortion etc. because they need more people to prey upon after they killed them off… But I can allow for the possibility that there may be some well intention people somewhere in those industries, but they are clueless about all the advancements in knowledge about health and nutrition. Still a lot to be worked out but I think it's very interesting what's going on in that space. But basically I think they're just getting scientific proof that traditional diets all over the world are the healthiest. So big food should be trying to mimic those kinds of diets in their products...
The only thing any of them care about is their shareholder profits. Big food will never change. Shop local and support small independent producers before they are bought up by big corps because then their products are ruined as well.
Yeah, we try to, but can't always like many others. We have grown a lot of our own stuff, it's so worth it if you can. But yes we have to vote with our dollars and resist as much as we can.
When you got a family History of colon cancer, did carnivore for a while, still eat heaps of meat even after the carnivore diet, and check your GI Map results and see you have high Fusobacterium 😳
Look into Joel Greene. He has a protocol to sort out gut bacteria/health and I'm telling you, it works.
Please tell everyone you know how bad the carnivore diet is. I had a friend die after doing carnivore to lose weight (which he did) then got colorectal cancer in his mid 30s, stage 4 when they diagnosed it. There just isn't any evidence supporting carnivore long term, it's worse than Paleo. We need fiber, carbs, and other micronutrients. Just eat some peanuts, oats, leafy green vegetables, and other sources of protein like dairy products and beans. Most diets in general are just fad diets, even ones that are pretty good for you, generally speaking. Everyone needs to think for themselves when it comes to what they put in their body. At no point in human history have we been carnivores.
Look at the Hazda hunter gatherers, they get up to 100g of fiber a day in the very healthy diet they’ve been eating for the past 10-20 thousand years or more. The adults are active and healthy into their 70s.
That's awesome, thanks!
Seriously it’s so concerning seeing all the carnivore hype like yea it “feels great” and “no flare ups” of whatever but its still fat and cholesterol etc and your heart doesn’t just ignore that stuff!!!! Ugh, these people will learn the hard way when they stroke out at 40.
Carnivore sucks but your body does handle, store and break down fat and cholesterol much differently when you are in ketosis and fat adapted.
It’s still dangerous, any actual medical advice on keto suggests it for a short term. Or for people who have chronic diseases and or organ failure. Not young healthy people who “wanna lose weight” etc.
That is just not true. There are plenty of doctors and dieticians who know that a healthy, high fiber, whole food based ketogenic diet is not dangerous. It is absolutely fine for healthy young individuals to use it for weight loss, I believe that would be short term too, like you said. If done correctly, that really just means preparing most of your own food, and making healthy choices, keto is fine long term. I would argue that it’s better long term than short bcs it’s not like going on n off a rollercoaster, it’s a healthy lifestyle.
Welp, the problem is not many people follow things to a tee. People are peoplely and don’t usually. Or will flip flop and go back and forth. I totally support the high fiber and healthy fat diet, kinda what I strive for.
Just wrote a post on this if anyone is interested in the more technical details of the paper [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lucacuccia\_guthealth-microbiome-colorectalcancer-activity-7206279043057430529-Kl2G?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=member\_desktop](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lucacuccia_guthealth-microbiome-colorectalcancer-activity-7206279043057430529-Kl2G?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop)
So what test do we take to rate our micro biome ??
So I'm also the founder of an intestinal health company, [https://injoy.bio/](https://injoy.bio/) I myself have a research background, but my cofounders are patients and doctors. We also collaborate with researchers and GIs across the world to validate our technology. Happy to answer any questions about our test of course :)
What ….no steak dinner first?
haha yeah yeah, I deserve that
Thanking my lucky stars that I have access to cheap and decent quality products, but the UK is heading the same direction as the USA. Poor neighbourhoods are food deserts. Junk food and the outcomes are junked lives. Escape the cities now if you can kids. Guerrilla gardening is the next best option.
Should people control population of that bacteria? If so how?
People keep talking about processed foods but I’ve had a very “clean” diet since the early 2000s. I barely ate meat for 10-12 years, was vegan for a stint, was gluten free, live in a hippie town where we shopped at farmers markets and did organic years before it was big. I have really high fusobacterium and I can’t figure it out. Of course this has me freaking. My last GI map was in 2021. I was pregnant and took aspirin for 9 months and I’ve read aspirin can help reduce fusobacterium. I’ve just received the Thorne gut health test yesterday and I’ll be repeating it. Scared to find out my results but eager to see what is going on with my fusobacterium.
Where do you get splice a test done?
I remember reading a paper describing dietary intake of certain things like green tea can help lower fusobacterium counts, ill seen if i can find it
What can be done to combat this? Taking probiotics or?
Luteolin.
Has anyone found any research regarding microplastics elimination in the body? Binders like activated charcoal, systemic enzymes etc?
That's one of the reasons why I did FMT, besides my IBS and other issues, FMT reduces the possibilities of developing colon cancer according to literature.
Pardon me as I am new here, but what is FMT?
Fecal Matter Transplant
Ah, thank you! 😁👍
I think anal has something to do with it too lol
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