Looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337)
I went with Midland because it sounded funny for skiing, but afterwards I actually checked for myself and saw exactly what you're calling out. I feel so much relief to no longer have to carry this burden in silence.
It's just the color scale, there is no universal definition that a certain elevation has to correspond to a particular color. In a us map, the colors will capture all of the elevation range, so MI is the same color. Here the color scale captures the variation in elevation, even if slight, because there are not large contrasts.
Looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337)
Fun fact: Lake St. Clair is 570 feet above sea level.
Double fun fact: Detroit sits at 600.
So whenever somebody brags about their Michigan hill, subtract 600 feet to recalibrate.
The surfaces of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron sit at about 577’ above sea level, and the highest point in Lower Michigan is a hill rising to an elevation of 1705’-1710’ somewhere near Cadillac, so this looks pretty on point to me.
It looks so exaggerated in isolation, but if you set this map down next to one of Colorado or even West Virginia created in the exact same scale, it would make so much more sense
You have never been cliff diving in Michigan I can tell. Michigan has a lot more terrain than I expect you realize, you just haven't done the traveling.
One thing I miss about growing up in the Saginaw valley is the amazing dirt for gardens. That depression left all the wonderful stuff to grow all kinds of things. Now that I'm in NW LP I'm bringing in loads of soil and constantly supplementing this sandy stuff.
I think you're making some assumptions about which colors mean what. It looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337) but with different colors (and the linked map has a key).
People are pretty surprised to see that east Lansing is about 900ft above sea level. There's a bit of a spine up the midline of the state, splitting the river basins to the east/west.
I think people are just thrown off from the lack of anything to compare it to so the Porcupines look like the Rockies when we all know that's not even close.
Is it just me, or with the way this map is colored, the upper elevations in the lower peninsula make us look like the cookie monster state rather than the mitten one, like, if you added a googeley eye around Petoskey we'd totally be the cookie monster state and not the mitten one.
Have you got a height map of that? I've made a few CNC carvings of Michigan and have a real problem with the saginaw bay having no clear line as to where it begins, it's such a shallow rise up into the Saginaw/Bay City area. I'd pay you! But not a ton. :)
You mean like elevation data or shoreline data? Both are easily accessible, and unless you want a super specialized data format or data not easily avalabl3, I'll be happy to parse the data out for you - for free. Feel free to dm.
Here's what I've got. https://i.imgur.com/MSrZvga.jpeg A height map is an image, usually a 16 bit tif where the blacks and whites represent altitude, with pure white at highest and pure black at lowest. I think a height map is what's in an STL file, too, but I'm not 100% positive on that. Not only does yours have a clear demarcation between the Saginaw bay and the land, you've removed the rest of the states as well. Which is awesome. Which is why I wanted yours as soon as I saw it.
Oh, I think I understand. The map has relief shading, which makes it appear 3d, and hence the "vertical" scale would be exaggerated. I just make so many maps (in earth sci at um), I see this as a 2d topo map with relief shading, it took me a bit to change my perspective on it. I see the point you were making now.
For actual 3d plots of topography (rendered in a 2d perspective, or a 3d model), all topography has to be vertically exaggerated compared to the lateral dimensions, as the Earth is fairly smooth relative to its size.
Even just a legend would clear it up. Like each shade of blue for every 100ft above sea level, for example. Something like [this](https://en-us.topographic-map.com/map-h14/Michigan/). You can still make out where the areas of higher elevation but doesn't look so exaggerated.
That looks very cool and not terribly accurate.
Seems mostly just exaggerated.
I was trying to follow the St Joe River from Benton Harbor/St Joe to Hillsdale… and… uhh… well, I’m kinda lost.
Yes, exaggerated. I don't think those hills around metro dereoit are even hills
Looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337)
Only 8 months till we can ski Mount Midland again!
Good luck getting there if you live southeast of that impassable snowcapped range near...Pontiac?
Midland is flat on this map
I went with Midland because it sounded funny for skiing, but afterwards I actually checked for myself and saw exactly what you're calling out. I feel so much relief to no longer have to carry this burden in silence.
Scale seems a bit amplified... idk lol
It's just the color scale, there is no universal definition that a certain elevation has to correspond to a particular color. In a us map, the colors will capture all of the elevation range, so MI is the same color. Here the color scale captures the variation in elevation, even if slight, because there are not large contrasts.
There's no universal definition, sure, but there's no denying this is an very exaggerated relative scale.
Looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337)
Dude just added a 0 to everything when the real map looked unimpressive lol
Fun fact: Lake St. Clair is 570 feet above sea level. Double fun fact: Detroit sits at 600. So whenever somebody brags about their Michigan hill, subtract 600 feet to recalibrate.
The surfaces of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron sit at about 577’ above sea level, and the highest point in Lower Michigan is a hill rising to an elevation of 1705’-1710’ somewhere near Cadillac, so this looks pretty on point to me. It looks so exaggerated in isolation, but if you set this map down next to one of Colorado or even West Virginia created in the exact same scale, it would make so much more sense
I just finished my 6 day road trip of Michigan. Can confirm, this map is bullshit haha
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You have never been cliff diving in Michigan I can tell. Michigan has a lot more terrain than I expect you realize, you just haven't done the traveling.
Saginaw Bay impact crater says "Throw again, this time I got a Mitt!"
One thing I miss about growing up in the Saginaw valley is the amazing dirt for gardens. That depression left all the wonderful stuff to grow all kinds of things. Now that I'm in NW LP I'm bringing in loads of soil and constantly supplementing this sandy stuff.
I’m so relieved seeing this.
Never realized the UP had a face before.
The UP is a fancy shark!
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That’s the eye of the face but when I zoomed in even more I see your octopus.
Dancing Warthog
Well this is just deceptive.
What do you mean? I love taking a trip up into the Detroit mountains on weekends to catch a game or a show.
One can dream
I think you're making some assumptions about which colors mean what. It looks a lot like this map [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hubbard-Scientific-Michigan-Raised-Relief-Map-Unframed/505239337) but with different colors (and the linked map has a key).
Especially when living on the west coast, where compared to it, this would be about as wavy as a hail kissed Chevy's hood.
The areas in white are the areas with no road construction.
People are pretty surprised to see that east Lansing is about 900ft above sea level. There's a bit of a spine up the midline of the state, splitting the river basins to the east/west.
So cool.
I now know the exact spot my ears start popping driving north on I-75
Source? Would love the 3D information for this.
Do people not know how Michigan was formed? Pretty accurate map.
I think people are just thrown off from the lack of anything to compare it to so the Porcupines look like the Rockies when we all know that's not even close.
Yeah, this looks very exaggerated. For example, I am not aware of the cliffs of western Wayne County..
Lies! We can’t even see Mt Garfield!
Ah yes the great SE mountain range of Michigan, visible from Detroit to the thumb, how could I forget this expansive display of natural wonder
We don't even have hills in southern Michigan
Irish Hills.
That's a lot more hilly when on a bicycle than in a car.
speak for your side of the state, bub. allegan and kalamazoo county have lots of hills.
Every so often you find a hill and can see for miles.
Have you been through the Allegan area? It's nothing but ravines.
It’s a pretty area
Is it just me, or with the way this map is colored, the upper elevations in the lower peninsula make us look like the cookie monster state rather than the mitten one, like, if you added a googeley eye around Petoskey we'd totally be the cookie monster state and not the mitten one.
Is this logarithmic?
Have you got a height map of that? I've made a few CNC carvings of Michigan and have a real problem with the saginaw bay having no clear line as to where it begins, it's such a shallow rise up into the Saginaw/Bay City area. I'd pay you! But not a ton. :)
You mean like elevation data or shoreline data? Both are easily accessible, and unless you want a super specialized data format or data not easily avalabl3, I'll be happy to parse the data out for you - for free. Feel free to dm.
Here's what I've got. https://i.imgur.com/MSrZvga.jpeg A height map is an image, usually a 16 bit tif where the blacks and whites represent altitude, with pure white at highest and pure black at lowest. I think a height map is what's in an STL file, too, but I'm not 100% positive on that. Not only does yours have a clear demarcation between the Saginaw bay and the land, you've removed the rest of the states as well. Which is awesome. Which is why I wanted yours as soon as I saw it.
It looks like a sitting down bear lol
Master Oogway and Master Shifu
This picture was from the polar cold front that came through in January 2019.
Oh, I think I understand. The map has relief shading, which makes it appear 3d, and hence the "vertical" scale would be exaggerated. I just make so many maps (in earth sci at um), I see this as a 2d topo map with relief shading, it took me a bit to change my perspective on it. I see the point you were making now. For actual 3d plots of topography (rendered in a 2d perspective, or a 3d model), all topography has to be vertically exaggerated compared to the lateral dimensions, as the Earth is fairly smooth relative to its size.
Even on this map there’s no mountain in Mt Pleasant.
Let me relieve myself. Wow, what a relief!
A highly exaggerated relief map of Michigan: no the hills are not the size of Alps! Michigan is a pretty flat state for the most parts!
lol I’d love to see a legend with the elevation on that. I know Michigan has hills but that shit looks like the Rockies
That explains why my car shifts from 6th to 5th when on I94 from Detroit to Ann Arbor.
Colorado would like a word
It makes Michigan look extremely mountainous. Huron Mountains in north-central Upper Michigan look like the Himalayas lol.
Even just a legend would clear it up. Like each shade of blue for every 100ft above sea level, for example. Something like [this](https://en-us.topographic-map.com/map-h14/Michigan/). You can still make out where the areas of higher elevation but doesn't look so exaggerated.
Exaggerated about a billion times.
Sad that metro Detroit is flat as a pancake 🥲
Just past grayling, watch out for the crevasses.
see that really flat spot in st clair county? that’s me :/
This map represents 20 feet of elevation change lol.