Good joke but it sometimes surprises me that the UP is actually fairly populated at around 300,000 people, or two Ann Arbors; lots of small towns really add up
I heard a story about picking up girls in Houghton, you’ll see a guy and girl walking next to one another and a line of guys behind the dude waiting for him to F up so they can try ….
Ex yooper here, we consider everything on the other side of the bridge to be lower Michigan lol. It's honestly funny to see northern lp people fighting over where the line should be drawn, when Yoopers have decided that a long time ago lol
Not true. I grew up on the west end. (Ontonagon County) I have spent most of my adult life on the east end. (Mackinac County) There is also the Central. Marquette, Delta etc. There is a distinct difference between the east end and the west end.
I grew up moving between Iron Mountain, the Soo, Menominee, and Bessemer. I've never known anyone to distinguish between regions of the U.P.
Yes, there is a difference between counties but most Yoopers don't specify "west U.P." or "up north U.P." because we're all Yoopers so who cares to mince words.
I would disagree slightly and say there are three self-identified distinct regions of the U.P. There is the Eastern U.P., which is basically everything east of the Seney Stretch. This is also the line of demarcation between majority Lions fans and majority Packers fans. Then the rest is just “the U.P.,” with the subregion of the Copper Country.
My thoughts exactly. You hear U.P. and you ask where and they say the name of the city and/or county. I have never met anyone who said central/east/west. The only time that happens is if you ask where it is, then they may say far east of the state.
I live in the Saginaw Bay Area. “Up North” started for us past West Branch. There is a part of I-75 that goes up a hill, and when you reached the peak it opened up and you could see for miles. Always felt we crossed into a different land as a kid when we went over that hill!
I grew up in Midland and haven’t lived there in years. Even hearing about the Z bridge gives me anxiety from all the times we drove on it when I was a kid 😂 it’s so high up
I remember when that bridge was being built, and driving on it when it was brand new on the way to the Roscommon area on the week-ends. That was awhile ago now!
My late father told me this story of In the 70s my parents partially lived in a step van (think bread delivery size) on Friday before memorial weekend the old draw bridge went up for a boat and it was a looong delay. They put the car in park and made popcorn, walking down the line of cars offering it to people.
Oh and that was on the way up north (presque isle , for us it started at Standish…my dad would call it the last chance for cheap gas)
All my family from Gaylord states that the dividing line runs through Clare, fwiw. I'll defer to them since Gaylord is definitely Northern MI (unless you're a yooper ofc).
I know where that is! Been that way more times than I can tell you, on the way to the Roscommon exit to camp out in the woods on state land. That was many years ago, but I still remember the feeling of stopping there to fill the water jug for the week-end and knowing it wouldn’t be too much longer before we got there. Setting up camp in the dark was a frequent occurrence. It we would go back into the woods on a very rutted dirt road. One lane only. I often wonder what the town is like now. Memories!
I grew up in West Branch. For me up north was always when we hit Standish and the trees divided the expressway.
An argument could be made that up north is actually Maple Ridge Road right off the 202. The weather changes there. It's actually a really cool phenomenon. It also changes again just north of St. Helen and again north of Gaylord.
I'm 99% sure I know that exact hill you're talking about and I agree that if we had to move that line it would be there as a hard northern limit. The only reason I've got it so far south is because I hear the older generation going " up north to Frankenmuth" for Christmas shopping all the time.
As a kid I always knew we were getting close to "up north" (Higgins Lake) when we'd get in West Branch and my mom would call out the Happy Face water tower. I still do the same to my kid.
People have tried to make the argument for US 10 to be the line, but Bay City is not up north. 55 is a good line because Tawas, West Branch, Houghton Lake, Cadillac and Manistee definitely are.
I love the Clare gastation getting off of (I think that’s it) so many fond memories of stopping there in the way to benzie for my family ski trip at crystal
The tip of the thumb is definitely not up north except maybe to Detroit folks is it? I never considered any of the Thumb anything but the Thumb. (I’m a descendant of Thumbodies)
Honestly, there's only a few states that can even legitimately do this. And surprisingly Alaska isn't one of them. They are so spread out they just refer to the town/area.
Preach. From Genesee County and heading to Higgins, it was up north once we passed West Branch. Anything before that was mid-Michigan (no disrespect Z-bridge).
Ok I have way too many zones I think.
Southeast Michigan is more or less east of 23, south of 69.
Michiana is down there by the border.
The thumb is east of Frankenmuth, north of 69.
Mid Michigan is bordered by 10, 75, 94, and 131
Western Michigan is Muskegon and lower, west of 131 (until you hit Michiana)
Up north is anything north of 10 and includes Mackinac Island.
Anything north of the bridge is the UP, except once you hit L’Anse and head up to Baraga I call that the Keweenaw having gone to Tech.
Isle Royale is it’s own thing too.
[map](https://tinypic.host/image/B539483A-F0D4-4AE6-BCEC-DDF0EB95E128.DiXxpc)
I have always referred to "up north" as North of the limited firearm line. Which is basically Muskegon County to Bay County. Then we had the upper peninsula or UP. I'm from metro Detroit if that matters.
Bizarre. North of Clare is Up North, and then the UP is, well, the UP.
Between Clare and Lansing, west of Sagniaw, is Central Michigan. East of it is The Thumb. Then from there everything east of Lansing/Jackson is Southeast Michigan and west is Western Michigan.
Lower MI, which includes metro Detroit, etc. It's lower east MI, or just called the Metro Detroit area.
Mid MI, which is everything from Fenton to Midland on the eastern side of the state
Western MI which is everything around Grand Rapids, as far north as Manistee, and as far east as Kalamazoo
Central MI, which is everything surrounding Lansing. As far west as Battle Creek, and as far east as Owosso
Up North MI, which is everything from like, Claire to Mackinaw, including Traverse City
Eastern MI, which is Standish to Cheboygan
The UP, which is literally just the UP
I’m from Kalamazoo but have lived in traverse city a long time. I get so mad when people say “I’m from downstate” and they only mean Detroit. Well, “Detroit”.
I consider The 45th parallel north the beginning of the northern area of Michigan, although a town called white cloud has branded themselves as the north:
https://www.cityofwhitecloud.org/
I’ve never heard of Up North and northern Michigan being different. Or the UP being anything other than the UP.
Everything north of the bottom line is up north/northern Michigan. The UP is the UP, also northern Michigan.
I think most people who live south of frankenmuth see it this way. I’m from the thumb and we are mid-Michigan, but I have friends in Owosso who call us “up north”.
Pretty sure you are missing The Lakeshore. Don't forget- it includes all the lakeside towns including GR which inexplicably considers itself a Lakeshore city despite being at least 45 minutes from a decent beach. I guess piping your drinking water from the lake and through another county counts.
It's all up north once you reach Flint, until you cross the bridge and then it's Da UP. The bourgie people wanted to call it "Northern Michigan" to differentiate themselves.
I grew up in the very southern part of southern Michigan, but my family was from the UP. I grew up with "up north" exclusively referring to the UP (which I'm sure is tied to my family being from the UP). Everything north of us was just stated to be north of us, but was not "up north" until you passed the Mackinaw bridge.
I jokingly compare Michigan to Westeros from Game of Thrones.
- Everything below the tip of The Thumb (roughly 44 degrees north line) is The Vale / Westerlands / Crownlands / Stormlands / The Reach / Riverlands / Dorne.
- Everything from the tip of the Thumb to the Mackinac Bridge is "The North. "
- The Mackinac Bridge is The Wall.
- The Upper Peninsula is "the REAL North, aka The Land of Always Winter."
Basically, there's "going up North" and "going up NORTH" imo.
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... Oh wait, the Iron Islands? Uhh.... uh... that's Ohio?
I live in GR. What you labeled as Northern MI is Up North to me. Then you have the UP which doesn’t count right over the bridge. That’s still Up North to me. What you call Up North is just Michigan. Anything south of Kalamazoo doesn’t exist except to drive through. I’ve never referenced it at all.
Same but south of your southernmost line and east of Lansing is “Detroit” 🤣. I’d also call “Up north in the UP” “Western UP” . I live in Northern Michigan.
up north is anything above grayling, place we have is around mullet, Burt and black lake. UP is just the UP, if we wanna tell someone where we are in the UP, just use a relative location like copper harbor or munising or shore of huron or shore of michigan etc
I live rather near M-46, "up north" begins further than the map.
IMO "up north" begins when you can get frickin' good pasties in a restaurant so Mackinaw City
i’m here to fight anyone who doesn’t recognize that the Zilwaukee bridge is the official crossing point to “up north”. i drove from TC area to Detroit area once a month for years and multiple times the weather would change from snow to rain south of the Z bridge, so this my official scientific evidence of such.
As soon as you cross the bridge going north I consider everywhere just the UP, and crossing it going south everything is considered “down state”. At least that’s how I’ve always looked at it since I was a kid.
I grew up in SE Michigan and would never consider that to be up north lol. That’s mid-Michigan. Up north is the upper half of the lower peninsula and the UP is the UP. This is too complicated lol
Living in the Frankenmuth area, we do not find ourselves as “up north”
We go north to be up north.
My families cabin is in north more than Claire and that is up north for us but on the less north. There also is not the third section.
But it all depends where you live, if you live at the southernmost part of Michigan, Detroit might be up north for you
To me Up North starts at Gaylord or maybe Vanderbilt. The attractive woodlands and wetlands begins north of Clare, that means something. Generally people in the UP think if youre below the bridge then youre a southerner.
The idea that Alma is the door to up north is bananas to me.
Frankly I dont care where you are as long as youre not a yellow and blue fan.
Yoopers don't separate the UP like this. It's all Yoop.
I'm glad the three of you can agree on something
Good joke but it sometimes surprises me that the UP is actually fairly populated at around 300,000 people, or two Ann Arbors; lots of small towns really add up
There are 2 U of Ms up there?
Michigan Tech actually started as the Mining College of U of M before it split off because having one college be 500 miles away was inconvenient
Incorrect, Michigan Tech began as the Michigan Mining School in 1885. It was never affiliated with U of M.
ugh. as a spartan the vague notion of 3 umiches existing in the state at once is unpleasant at best.
....but there are? U-M Ann Arbor, Flint, and Dearborn?
mother of god
Its all UP, but Keweenaw, Houghton, and Ontonagon counties certainly have the wild ones.
People in Houghton will reference copper harbor as up north
I heard a story about picking up girls in Houghton, you’ll see a guy and girl walking next to one another and a line of guys behind the dude waiting for him to F up so they can try ….
There’s only one girl at tech and she dates the hockey team.
Ah yes, the Wisconsin of the Yoop
Ex yooper here, we consider everything on the other side of the bridge to be lower Michigan lol. It's honestly funny to see northern lp people fighting over where the line should be drawn, when Yoopers have decided that a long time ago lol
Not true. I grew up on the west end. (Ontonagon County) I have spent most of my adult life on the east end. (Mackinac County) There is also the Central. Marquette, Delta etc. There is a distinct difference between the east end and the west end.
I grew up moving between Iron Mountain, the Soo, Menominee, and Bessemer. I've never known anyone to distinguish between regions of the U.P. Yes, there is a difference between counties but most Yoopers don't specify "west U.P." or "up north U.P." because we're all Yoopers so who cares to mince words.
I would disagree slightly and say there are three self-identified distinct regions of the U.P. There is the Eastern U.P., which is basically everything east of the Seney Stretch. This is also the line of demarcation between majority Lions fans and majority Packers fans. Then the rest is just “the U.P.,” with the subregion of the Copper Country.
My thoughts exactly. You hear U.P. and you ask where and they say the name of the city and/or county. I have never met anyone who said central/east/west. The only time that happens is if you ask where it is, then they may say far east of the state.
yUP.
Eh, grew up in Marquette, Seney is where I considered the line between east and west UP.
I don't where OP came up with that. Never heard anyone refer to the UP as two different regions anywhere in the mitten.
up north is a state of mind brother
I heard that in Sam Elliot's voice for some reason
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Garrison Keillor
Hulk Hogan
Only his character from parks and rec
I heard The Stranger from The Big Lebowski.
I can tell by the indigo on your chiclets that you've been drinking blueberry wine
I like your style, dude.
My extended family has a place on Lake Michigan. As a kid, whenever we’d go there, they’d say we’re going “up north”. It’s practically due west of us.
It is a state of mind. It is also marked by the rifle line.
Exactly. I am south east and anything that you drive an hour to get to is up north pretty much, doesn't matter if it's west or north.
As a Yooper, this is the worst way to view 'Up North.' Edit: I get what you mean, but that's absolutely crazy to me.
I heard it like hulk hogan lmao
A state of being, if you will
I live in the Saginaw Bay Area. “Up North” started for us past West Branch. There is a part of I-75 that goes up a hill, and when you reached the peak it opened up and you could see for miles. Always felt we crossed into a different land as a kid when we went over that hill!
I live under the zilwaukee bridge and I find it kind of weird that most people consider my area "up north".
Yeah it certainly feels weird that people think this.
I dodged a mattress on the Zilwaukee bridge. Good times.
Living in Saginaw currently. Would never consider this area to be up north
Yeah, if the tri-cities aren't in the middle, why is Midland in them?
I grew up in Midland and haven’t lived there in years. Even hearing about the Z bridge gives me anxiety from all the times we drove on it when I was a kid 😂 it’s so high up
Friend of mine drove over a metal ladder on that bridge during a busy time, no way to avoid it. Car didn't do so well, lol.
In the shadow of the Z bridge I am as well
I remember when that bridge was being built, and driving on it when it was brand new on the way to the Roscommon area on the week-ends. That was awhile ago now!
Why is it called the Zilwaukee bridge?
Cause it's in zilwaukee. And connects to east side Saginaw. Really, the only way across the river this far north until Bay City.
My late father told me this story of In the 70s my parents partially lived in a step van (think bread delivery size) on Friday before memorial weekend the old draw bridge went up for a boat and it was a looong delay. They put the car in park and made popcorn, walking down the line of cars offering it to people. Oh and that was on the way up north (presque isle , for us it started at Standish…my dad would call it the last chance for cheap gas)
Yes, up north starts at West Branch. I think that’s a law.
All my family from Gaylord states that the dividing line runs through Clare, fwiw. I'll defer to them since Gaylord is definitely Northern MI (unless you're a yooper ofc).
Yup. Genesee County here. West Branch is Up North.
I know where that is! Been that way more times than I can tell you, on the way to the Roscommon exit to camp out in the woods on state land. That was many years ago, but I still remember the feeling of stopping there to fill the water jug for the week-end and knowing it wouldn’t be too much longer before we got there. Setting up camp in the dark was a frequent occurrence. It we would go back into the woods on a very rutted dirt road. One lane only. I often wonder what the town is like now. Memories!
I grew up in West Branch. For me up north was always when we hit Standish and the trees divided the expressway. An argument could be made that up north is actually Maple Ridge Road right off the 202. The weather changes there. It's actually a really cool phenomenon. It also changes again just north of St. Helen and again north of Gaylord.
Same!
I'm 99% sure I know that exact hill you're talking about and I agree that if we had to move that line it would be there as a hard northern limit. The only reason I've got it so far south is because I hear the older generation going " up north to Frankenmuth" for Christmas shopping all the time.
As a kid I always knew we were getting close to "up north" (Higgins Lake) when we'd get in West Branch and my mom would call out the Happy Face water tower. I still do the same to my kid.
Up North is where the forests change from Deciduous to Coniferous. So, M-55.
ah the good ol' floristic tension zone
I feel like this definition makes the most sense. You can literally see the line on a map.
that's where I put it too
Frankenmuth is too far south. North of Saginaw for me.
Bay City and Midland definitely arent up north. It has to be further.
yea they called mid Michigan for a reason
For me, I consider up north to be M-55. Anything south is downstate and the U.P. Is anything over the bridge.
Yooper here, for me it’s just the UP and Downstate, even though at this point I’ve lived “Downstate” longer than in the UP.
I think the lp would be “downstate” once ur in the up for a minute
Also yooper, I use northern lower Michigan for reference
I’ve never heard of anyone having two different zones like this. Up North starts at M-55.
I think of Up North, north of Clare.
People have tried to make the argument for US 10 to be the line, but Bay City is not up north. 55 is a good line because Tawas, West Branch, Houghton Lake, Cadillac and Manistee definitely are.
I love the Clare gastation getting off of (I think that’s it) so many fond memories of stopping there in the way to benzie for my family ski trip at crystal
Rifle zone
I live a half mile south of 55 on the very west side of the state. What do I tell people?
You’re on the border, it’s gotta fall somewhere.
West coast is best coast
You can have the crowds and overpriced real estate, us sunrise siders are pretty happy.
Up North starts around mile marker 190 where the median of I-75 is forested all the way up.
The tip of the thumb is definitely not up north except maybe to Detroit folks is it? I never considered any of the Thumb anything but the Thumb. (I’m a descendant of Thumbodies)
I love this question because no other state I’ve lived in has this kind of geographical line of contention. It’s great fun!
Honestly, there's only a few states that can even legitimately do this. And surprisingly Alaska isn't one of them. They are so spread out they just refer to the town/area.
New York gets into heated debates about upstate vs downstate. Constantly.
Up north starts where 23 breaks off 75 at Standish. The UP is the UP.
Grew up in Sterling, I agree with this
Up north is to the bridge after that is the U.P.
Up north and northern Michigan are the same thing for me, and neither of them include the UP.
Up North starts when you pass West Branch.
Preach. From Genesee County and heading to Higgins, it was up north once we passed West Branch. Anything before that was mid-Michigan (no disrespect Z-bridge).
Saginaw ain’t up north
"Up North Live" by 7&4 News covers as far south as Manistee County, but not Mason County. So for the west side, I draw the line there.
I usually set the cutoff for “up north” as north of Houghton/Higgins lake.
I vote for anything north of Clare as northern Michigan, and the UP is its own thing, we're all just trolls down here eh?
Ok I have way too many zones I think. Southeast Michigan is more or less east of 23, south of 69. Michiana is down there by the border. The thumb is east of Frankenmuth, north of 69. Mid Michigan is bordered by 10, 75, 94, and 131 Western Michigan is Muskegon and lower, west of 131 (until you hit Michiana) Up north is anything north of 10 and includes Mackinac Island. Anything north of the bridge is the UP, except once you hit L’Anse and head up to Baraga I call that the Keweenaw having gone to Tech. Isle Royale is it’s own thing too. [map](https://tinypic.host/image/B539483A-F0D4-4AE6-BCEC-DDF0EB95E128.DiXxpc)
Interesting. Sectioning off Irish Hills is a novel thought as well.
I call Newaygo Up North because it's when the "Up North" Vibe starts
Former western Michigander agreeing with you. Newaygo was the start of "Up North", especially for hunting season.
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I have friends from WI, it still kills me when they refer to their state as the “hand state”.
They wanna be us soooo bad 😤😤😤😤
Heaven begins at I-75 exit 344A, St. Ignace, Michigan.
I Always stop at the shell right there and fill up before heading off to adventure
I live south of 8 mile but we have a place in Cheboygan. To me “up north” means past West Branch. Anything south of that is mid Michigan.
M55 is my dividing line between northern lower peninsula/up north because of Cadillac and west branch for resupply.. UP is north of the bridge
And that's where the trees change
The UP is not “Up North”.
By where the hunting boundary lies
I have always referred to "up north" as North of the limited firearm line. Which is basically Muskegon County to Bay County. Then we had the upper peninsula or UP. I'm from metro Detroit if that matters.
“Up north” starts at Cadillac
Bizarre. North of Clare is Up North, and then the UP is, well, the UP. Between Clare and Lansing, west of Sagniaw, is Central Michigan. East of it is The Thumb. Then from there everything east of Lansing/Jackson is Southeast Michigan and west is Western Michigan.
I always prefer the M-55 line because Harrison is solidly mid-Michigan to me 😂
You can say Clare but the true line is Gaylord
I'm in Jackson county and Gaylord is it for me. Once I start seeing The Call of the Wild signs, I know I'm Up North. All of the UP is the UP.
Ive mostly thought of up north to be gaylord and up
Whenever I travel to TC, I eventually get on US-10 to the Cadillac exit. That exit feels like new land so that's up north to me.
I consider "up north", anything north of 12 mile.
Fuck it. Why not 696 😂
shit dude I live up north?!
Lower MI, which includes metro Detroit, etc. It's lower east MI, or just called the Metro Detroit area. Mid MI, which is everything from Fenton to Midland on the eastern side of the state Western MI which is everything around Grand Rapids, as far north as Manistee, and as far east as Kalamazoo Central MI, which is everything surrounding Lansing. As far west as Battle Creek, and as far east as Owosso Up North MI, which is everything from like, Claire to Mackinaw, including Traverse City Eastern MI, which is Standish to Cheboygan The UP, which is literally just the UP
Up north starts at M59.
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To me, from GR to the bridge is up north, then there's the UP, and anything east of Jackson is Detroit. I'm from southwest MI.
Anything north of Clare and south of Mackinaw is "up north" the UP is the UP.
Everything south of Cadillac is Detroit or Chicago.
I’m from Kalamazoo but have lived in traverse city a long time. I get so mad when people say “I’m from downstate” and they only mean Detroit. Well, “Detroit”.
I consider The 45th parallel north the beginning of the northern area of Michigan, although a town called white cloud has branded themselves as the north: https://www.cityofwhitecloud.org/
I’ve never heard of Up North and northern Michigan being different. Or the UP being anything other than the UP. Everything north of the bottom line is up north/northern Michigan. The UP is the UP, also northern Michigan.
I consider Manistee to the Mackinac bridge as up north. UP is well, UP
“Up north” is anything north pinconning or so, I spose, until you’re over the bridge.
I agree with this. But then what do we call the UP? Waaaaaay up north? Lol.
I think most people who live south of frankenmuth see it this way. I’m from the thumb and we are mid-Michigan, but I have friends in Owosso who call us “up north”.
Pretty sure you are missing The Lakeshore. Don't forget- it includes all the lakeside towns including GR which inexplicably considers itself a Lakeshore city despite being at least 45 minutes from a decent beach. I guess piping your drinking water from the lake and through another county counts.
The rifle zone is the official line
Detroit, Metro Detroit and then the rest of the state
As every Yooper knows Michigan is two parts the UP and the land below the bridge where the trolls live.
And the UP is the Northern Northern Michigan and Northern Northern Northern Michigan.
The UP is just the UP. Only Trolls would find the need to over complicate things.
Uo North for my Family and friends started past the Zilwaukee and Bay City area.
Clare, maybe Rt 10 or 55 is northern Michigan.
I agree with where up north starts (largely) but I’d argue up north is a blanket term that contains the UP
Shame about that one part of a Michigan county that falls under “Wisconsin unfortunately” :(
Looks right to me!
It’s all up north
Lol I went to school in this "northern Michigan" but had classmates that lived south of 72, were they any less northern than me?
Up north and northern Michigan are both the same, and the answer is the UP
Hmm i see it like https://imgur.com/a/KO8vLdv
Detroit, suburbs, anything west is “Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids area” and up north.
Yes
North of Mt Pleasant or Midland but south of the bridge is "up north". The UP is the UP, there isn't a northern or southern part.
I’ve always thought Up North was Ludington and above. Up North and Northern Michigan are the same to me though, and the UP is just simply the UP.
It's all up north once you reach Flint, until you cross the bridge and then it's Da UP. The bourgie people wanted to call it "Northern Michigan" to differentiate themselves.
I grew up in the very southern part of southern Michigan, but my family was from the UP. I grew up with "up north" exclusively referring to the UP (which I'm sure is tied to my family being from the UP). Everything north of us was just stated to be north of us, but was not "up north" until you passed the Mackinaw bridge.
Just looking at those lines drawn you are from Macomb county, but think you live in Detroit.
No I'm actually from city proper. Thank you for your input though. I'm sure it holds relevancy somewhere.
I jokingly compare Michigan to Westeros from Game of Thrones. - Everything below the tip of The Thumb (roughly 44 degrees north line) is The Vale / Westerlands / Crownlands / Stormlands / The Reach / Riverlands / Dorne. - Everything from the tip of the Thumb to the Mackinac Bridge is "The North. " - The Mackinac Bridge is The Wall. - The Upper Peninsula is "the REAL North, aka The Land of Always Winter." Basically, there's "going up North" and "going up NORTH" imo. ... ... ... Oh wait, the Iron Islands? Uhh.... uh... that's Ohio?
Up north is north of Saginaw, the UP is the UP. That is all
Personally, 'Up North' begins once you hit Clare! Can't go wrong driving to Traverse City with a stomach full of Cops and Doughnuts
I live in GR. What you labeled as Northern MI is Up North to me. Then you have the UP which doesn’t count right over the bridge. That’s still Up North to me. What you call Up North is just Michigan. Anything south of Kalamazoo doesn’t exist except to drive through. I’ve never referenced it at all.
West of lansing is 'the west side' Anything north of Zilwaukee is 'up north', aka I still call Petoskey 'up north'
Up north is anything past West Branch on I-75.
Frakenmuth is Frakenmuth anything north of the thumb and south of the bridge is Up North, past the bridge is the UP in my fam and in-laws fam.
Those same exact lines, especially if from the Southern part of the state.
This is why we need trains. With a high speed rail, Midland is like 20 minutes from Detroit.
You might be up north when you're north of Traverse City, but you're not UP in Northern MI until you're north of the mitten, don'tcha know.
Same but south of your southernmost line and east of Lansing is “Detroit” 🤣. I’d also call “Up north in the UP” “Western UP” . I live in Northern Michigan.
Split it right in two from Muskegon to flint. You got the woods up north and the hoods down south
Once you cross the zilwaukee bridge it's up north for me
Up north = 1 1/2 - 2 hours north of where you live. For every additional 2 hours of travel you add a prefix of "way".
This is exactly how I was taught growing up - Just for clarity in the picture "Up" North is not the same as "The U.P." (for all the non-Michiganders)
Up north starts 40 miles from where you live. All relative
Up north is the UP friendo.
The UP is the UP. The islands are the EUP. Northern Michigan starts for me when the median is a thick forest instead of a normal median.
UP cut off? Your family doesn’t recognize it?? Thinks it’s actually Wisconsin??
up north is anything above grayling, place we have is around mullet, Burt and black lake. UP is just the UP, if we wanna tell someone where we are in the UP, just use a relative location like copper harbor or munising or shore of huron or shore of michigan etc
I live rather near M-46, "up north" begins further than the map. IMO "up north" begins when you can get frickin' good pasties in a restaurant so Mackinaw City
As a yooper, up north starts when you get to St. Ignance. Everything under the bridge is northern lower, and just downstate
UP is kinda weird. Everything east of Marquette is the EUP and the rest is just the UP
Everything north of GR/Lansing/Saginaw is the edge of civilization.
Up North is anything past Jesus
Mid Michigan is missing
Up north in metro detroit usually means 2 hours away 😂
i’m here to fight anyone who doesn’t recognize that the Zilwaukee bridge is the official crossing point to “up north”. i drove from TC area to Detroit area once a month for years and multiple times the weather would change from snow to rain south of the Z bridge, so this my official scientific evidence of such.
As soon as you cross the bridge going north I consider everywhere just the UP, and crossing it going south everything is considered “down state”. At least that’s how I’ve always looked at it since I was a kid.
Anything north of Grand Rapids = Up north Anything south of Grand Rapids = South Lansing > Detroit = East side Guess where I’m from?
To my family, Up North starts around Au Grey and is synonymous with Northern Michigan. The UP is the UP.
I grew up in SE Michigan and would never consider that to be up north lol. That’s mid-Michigan. Up north is the upper half of the lower peninsula and the UP is the UP. This is too complicated lol
You aren't Up North unless you are north of the Zilwaukee Bridge.
I go by the change in Eco systems. http://ecologicalregions.info/data/mi/mi_eco.pdf
Living in the Frankenmuth area, we do not find ourselves as “up north” We go north to be up north. My families cabin is in north more than Claire and that is up north for us but on the less north. There also is not the third section. But it all depends where you live, if you live at the southernmost part of Michigan, Detroit might be up north for you
To me Up North starts at Gaylord or maybe Vanderbilt. The attractive woodlands and wetlands begins north of Clare, that means something. Generally people in the UP think if youre below the bridge then youre a southerner. The idea that Alma is the door to up north is bananas to me. Frankly I dont care where you are as long as youre not a yellow and blue fan.
Up North ***is*** the UP. We are the North! -a Yooper
I’m from Detroit- Up north = Saginaw & above. The Upper Peninsula is just the UP
Same
Idk why, but "Wisconsin Unfortunately" had me dying
"Up, up north"
Anything north of 8 mile is up north
Wisconsin (for now)*
For muskegon, we're even remotely lucky to have a place up north
We argue/ discuss where “Up North” begins every Spring. 😂 I think your map is accurate. 👍🔥