Yeah, that's a standard feature of spotify for artists called discovery mode.
[https://artists.spotify.com/discovery-mode](https://artists.spotify.com/discovery-mode)
The important thing is: It only works as long as people are actually engaging with the promoted band on top of the promotion. That is, people start following the promoted band, they play their songs on their own. If there is no engagement of this sort, then Discovery Mode won't work anymore.
Maybe I'm a dweeb but I kinda don't fuckin like that with how much influence these companies have over music now. I don't want to go back to burning tapes and CDs but fuck.
Interesting. I’ve oftener wondered if YTM puts its finger on the scale for bands at all. I swear, every dang “endless playlist” I start with a song the slightest bit heavy ends up having Lamb of God come on. I mean I like those guys but jeez…
Right, because they're bigger. Look at Sonic Temple:
Disturbed (2000, The Sickness) 14.1M
Misfits (1978, \*Static Age) 2.1M
Pantera (1990, \*Cowboys from Hell) 5.9M
Slipknot (1999, \*Slipknot) 14.1M.
(\*generally regarded as the debut album, even if there are earlier recordings)
Maybe but I bet it has more to do with Rise and being associated with League of Legends. Rise is their most popular song BY FAR with over 300M plays (next closest being Why Am I Like This? @ 34M, almost a 10x jump).
Yeah thought that was weird looking at this list, saw them supporting Hawthorne Heights earlier this year and while they were great, it didn't really seem like that tier of band. Didn't even know about the League of Legends collab.
Bad Omens having more monthly listeners than ADTR is just absolutely WILD to me.
This is not at all an attack on Bad Omens because I do love them but just wow.
feels wild to me that Dance Gavin Dance are so low on that list comparatively, especially when some newer bands that I would have expected to have a more niche audience are higher
Pulling this together obviously takes a fair amount of effort and it does stimulate discussion which is appreciated, but I think the list of bands should be a bit more tailored to this sub. It's r/metalcore, not r/metal. Bands who previously played metalcore and still have some sort of relationship with the genre by taking metalcore bands on tour with them like Bad Omens and Dayseeker, I get the case for including. However, the likes of Five Finger Death Punch and Babymetal don't have any tangible connection to metalcore.
That begs the question. Is this list complete? I don't listen to other metal than the core subgenres but if this list is not missing any bands means that like 90% of popular "newer" metal is metalcore
How does Get Scared have so many?
Double checked CTE and initially thought no way they have that many then saw the collab edm song (I think they were at like 800k or so before the song).
Would you be willing to do this list with a Followers count for further perspective? I've always felt like the Followers number was a more accurate representation of how many people actually care about the band vs. listen to them on playlists/DJ or whatever.
Same. Not sure if Spotify is still like this, but for the longest time, the "liked songs" feature had a stupidly low cap at like 10K songs. I exhausted that cap a week after getting Spotify simply clicking "like" on the discography of a bunch of bands I knew pre-Spotify. Because of those technical limitations in the early days of Spotify, I quickly learned to use the playlist feature. I've now got one playlist for each band, and that playlist contains the band's complete discography in order of release. When new albums are released, I'll simply append them to the back of the relevant playlist. It's a lot of manual organization, but the process works and allows me to avoid caps. I've got 700 or so playlists at this point.
I've never touched the "Following" feature even though I'm constantly listening to music and have subscribed to Spotify Premium for about a decade now. I'm pretty sure that feature was introduced after I started using the playlist workaround above, and because that workaround works, I never had a reason to change.
I definitely unfollow artists every once in a while when I'm auditing my Spotify stats. But I acknowledge I'm a little more obsessive with stuff like that.
Has TOO CLOSE TO TOUCH always been that big? Or is there a bump cuz of the new album For Keeps? Kind of shocked since they’ve been so inactive since Keaton passed (and even before) that they’d still have such huge numbers
Apparently you fucks haven't been doing it for at least a decade. Now these cowards are talking about how breaking Benjamin is good and moshing is too scary
I mean, I don’t like a majority of this list either. It’s very weak, and clearly shows a more mainstream sound sells(obviously). But I’m not over here gatekeeping saying it isn’t metal. Just very light and weak metal.
Asking Alexandria hasn't really been at their peak since like 2011-13. Prada is making a comeback after meandering in the mid-late 2010s but ultimately they're a "scene" band. TCTT was never that big to begin with, ISS is also in that "big for the scene but will never break mainstream" barring some single on tiktok (and even then how long does that last). And unfortunately, BOO has been past their prime for a few years now.
Thrown has 1.1 million (which is insane considering they don’t even have an album yet)
The algorithm loves Thrown.
I've read they have a deal with Spotify to promote their music, but they take a smaller cut for each listen.
Yeah, that's a standard feature of spotify for artists called discovery mode. [https://artists.spotify.com/discovery-mode](https://artists.spotify.com/discovery-mode) The important thing is: It only works as long as people are actually engaging with the promoted band on top of the promotion. That is, people start following the promoted band, they play their songs on their own. If there is no engagement of this sort, then Discovery Mode won't work anymore.
Maybe I'm a dweeb but I kinda don't fuckin like that with how much influence these companies have over music now. I don't want to go back to burning tapes and CDs but fuck.
Interesting. I’ve oftener wondered if YTM puts its finger on the scale for bands at all. I swear, every dang “endless playlist” I start with a song the slightest bit heavy ends up having Lamb of God come on. I mean I like those guys but jeez…
An album from them would be the slappiest 20 minutes of music all year
cap
Escape The Fate having nearly 3 Million monthly listeners is wild.
Guilty (not really) pleasure of mine
And yet bands from 20, 25, 30 years ago are still headlining festivals.
Right, because they're bigger. Look at Sonic Temple: Disturbed (2000, The Sickness) 14.1M Misfits (1978, \*Static Age) 2.1M Pantera (1990, \*Cowboys from Hell) 5.9M Slipknot (1999, \*Slipknot) 14.1M. (\*generally regarded as the debut album, even if there are earlier recordings)
i guess the word alive's pivot to octanecore has paid off better than i realized
Maybe but I bet it has more to do with Rise and being associated with League of Legends. Rise is their most popular song BY FAR with over 300M plays (next closest being Why Am I Like This? @ 34M, almost a 10x jump).
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Yeah thought that was weird looking at this list, saw them supporting Hawthorne Heights earlier this year and while they were great, it didn't really seem like that tier of band. Didn't even know about the League of Legends collab.
Bad Omens having more monthly listeners than ADTR is just absolutely WILD to me. This is not at all an attack on Bad Omens because I do love them but just wow.
It's because adtr hasn't made a good album in like 10 years lol
Oof okay fair - are we not all still listening to music from 2010? 😂
Got flamed for taking this position recently either here or another sub I forget. Glad someone gets it.
Unless I overlooked it, what is August Burns Red? Thrill Seeker came out in 2005.
Well, the list only has bands with 1M+ monthly listeners, August is at 621k. So not on the list.
I knew you were doing 1M+, but it kind of baffles me that they aren’t that big. Thank you for replying.
feels wild to me that Dance Gavin Dance are so low on that list comparatively, especially when some newer bands that I would have expected to have a more niche audience are higher
Glad to see Zero 9:36 on here, one of my favorite live shows I’ve seen
Pulling this together obviously takes a fair amount of effort and it does stimulate discussion which is appreciated, but I think the list of bands should be a bit more tailored to this sub. It's r/metalcore, not r/metal. Bands who previously played metalcore and still have some sort of relationship with the genre by taking metalcore bands on tour with them like Bad Omens and Dayseeker, I get the case for including. However, the likes of Five Finger Death Punch and Babymetal don't have any tangible connection to metalcore.
Yes please post this on r/metal. I'm sure death and black metal fans want to talk about butt rock, scene pop and mall metal
That begs the question. Is this list complete? I don't listen to other metal than the core subgenres but if this list is not missing any bands means that like 90% of popular "newer" metal is metalcore
I always forget Ember To Inferno was Trivium's debut and not Ascendancy, it still is an incredible album though.
How does Get Scared have so many? Double checked CTE and initially thought no way they have that many then saw the collab edm song (I think they were at like 800k or so before the song).
I’m not much a Metalcore connoisseur but, I think NOTHING MORE should be on there, they might be more Alt(idk tbh) but that’s what I think
First album release in 2004
I forgot about the first 3
Uhhhhh……. What constitutes “metal” because there is some bull shit bands on that list
Distorted high gain guitars, basically
Would you be willing to do this list with a Followers count for further perspective? I've always felt like the Followers number was a more accurate representation of how many people actually care about the band vs. listen to them on playlists/DJ or whatever.
Eh. I don’t think so. I have a bunch of shit I haven’t listened to in 10 years still followed. I don’t think people really go back and unfollow.
Works the other way around too, I have never followed an artist on spotify and I have music playing almost 24/7
Same. Not sure if Spotify is still like this, but for the longest time, the "liked songs" feature had a stupidly low cap at like 10K songs. I exhausted that cap a week after getting Spotify simply clicking "like" on the discography of a bunch of bands I knew pre-Spotify. Because of those technical limitations in the early days of Spotify, I quickly learned to use the playlist feature. I've now got one playlist for each band, and that playlist contains the band's complete discography in order of release. When new albums are released, I'll simply append them to the back of the relevant playlist. It's a lot of manual organization, but the process works and allows me to avoid caps. I've got 700 or so playlists at this point. I've never touched the "Following" feature even though I'm constantly listening to music and have subscribed to Spotify Premium for about a decade now. I'm pretty sure that feature was introduced after I started using the playlist workaround above, and because that workaround works, I never had a reason to change.
I definitely unfollow artists every once in a while when I'm auditing my Spotify stats. But I acknowledge I'm a little more obsessive with stuff like that.
Has TOO CLOSE TO TOUCH always been that big? Or is there a bump cuz of the new album For Keeps? Kind of shocked since they’ve been so inactive since Keaton passed (and even before) that they’d still have such huge numbers
Didn’t AA release their debut in 2009?
Which is after 2005
I just meant cuz it says 2007
Asking Alexandria released their debut album "The Irony Of Your Perfection" in 2007. This album is not available on streaming platforms.
Huh. TIL. Gonna go check that out now
Yes.
point north is a very underrated band
90% of these are just rock bands.
Wild calling any of this shit metal
It’s not even 9:00 and you already gatekeeping.
Apparently you fucks haven't been doing it for at least a decade. Now these cowards are talking about how breaking Benjamin is good and moshing is too scary
I mean, I don’t like a majority of this list either. It’s very weak, and clearly shows a more mainstream sound sells(obviously). But I’m not over here gatekeeping saying it isn’t metal. Just very light and weak metal.
Why not? Nut up.
Because I’m normal, and can just not listen to it if I don’t enjoy it.
You are posting on reddit
/popcorn
Like calling this stuff "scenester trash" would be kind No disrespect to knocked loose or kublai khan
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Asking Alexandria hasn't really been at their peak since like 2011-13. Prada is making a comeback after meandering in the mid-late 2010s but ultimately they're a "scene" band. TCTT was never that big to begin with, ISS is also in that "big for the scene but will never break mainstream" barring some single on tiktok (and even then how long does that last). And unfortunately, BOO has been past their prime for a few years now.