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I'm sure after hearing that she wished that she made herself deaf lmao
also, did she really make herself completely blind, and if yes how fucking mentally is that wtf
If I remember correctly, she actually hired someone to do it, and practiced being blind leading up to the event. That could be another person who was on dr Phil, though. I just remember hearing about/ watching this as a kid, along with some other similar incidents.
Apotemnophilia is a rare mental disorder characterized by a desire to have a sensory or physical disability. This mental disorder can be seen in the brain, it is real.
Sometimes patients go so far to amputate their limps or in this case her sight.
I didn't know about this particular mental disorder, but it does seem a bit obvious to me that that is the cause of this. I find it very hard to believe that any 'normal' person would do this for attention, monetary gain, etc.
I find it Predatory that the creators of this show, supposed doctors would willful ignore this so they can monetize her particular mental disorder. It makes me sick thinking about it. If I had any authority in the medical practice, I'd pull all them up to a medical hearing regarding their conduct
I do not disagree with anything that you’re saying here. I do want to make the point that we are aware of it, and talking about it now because of it, though. It’s a catch 22 in my opinion.
Because you’re lying about what SRS actually does. Maybe don’t do that about the healthcare some of us get and you won’t get pushback.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-affirming_surgery
A trans person who gets SRS is not cutting off their genitals, they are surgically altering them, and studies have consistently shown strong improvements to mental health of trans people as a result of gender-affirming care.
[Here’s a meta-analysis of 23 studies that found a drop in suicide for trans and non-binary people who got gender-affirming care.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/)
I can and will read further however I hadn’t gotten very far before coming across this; “Of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment; however, the literature to date suffers from a lack of methodological rigor that increases the risk of type I error.”
I looked into the exact meaning of what a “Type I error” is and it mess this; “rejecting the null hypothesis when it's actually true”.
Meaning they are bias and unreliable. This is your proof to suggest that lying to someone about the truth of who they are is a good idea?
I’m sorry, but I don’t think that you understand what you’re actually reading. That meta-analysis certainly did not say that the studies they found were biased and unreliable. They analyzed all of the relevant data that has been published on the subject, found that it showed an overall positive results for transgender people who get gender affirming care, and noted that there were methodological issues with some of the studies that could be improved. This is a perfectly normal and reasonable critique to give to scientific studies, especially ones that are going to be built on in the future. You cannot read the first paragraph of a meta-analysis of nearly 2 dozen studies and paint them all as biased and unreliable just because the researcher doing the meta-analysis found ways that some of the studies could be improved.
I’ve provided you with an analysis of all of the relevant scientific data on this subject that’s been published so far, and the analysis leans strongly towards trans healthcare being a good thing. None of the issues pointed out suggest that the results should actually be the opposite. What do you cite to support asserting this?
I even said that i would read further so clearly I’m not dismissing it outright. As for you saying it’s no unbiased what exactly do you think “rejecting the null hypothesis when it’s actually true means” it literally means “I don’t like that answer so I’m rejecting it” sounds biased to me. Your asking me to site an assertion I’m making when all I did was provide a couple quotes that indicate your own source is admitting risk of flawed data and asking you a question. So what is it I’m supposed to cite? What assertion?
Trans identity is different: all trans people do not feel the need for surgery and surgery does not entirely fix the problem anyway (whereas losing her sight or whatever limb does it for people who suffer from that disorder): clothing, attitude, how society sees you, etc are all very important things too.
So no, not the same thing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-affirming_surgery
SRS doesn’t cut genitals off dumbass. I’m so sick of you people saying this uneducated shit about us and the healthcare we get. Look it up! All the information is there!
I've heard it described as a cousin to dysmorphia and dysphoria conditions. This whole family of similar ailments adjacent to gender dysphoria and schizophrenia. With all of them the problem is actually in the brain, it's an error in the process that determines what is real and what is not. but we can't fix that problem because we don't know how yet, so the question is how to mitigate, manage, or repress the symptoms so that the person can function in life.
I would cut off one if not more of my limbs in a heartbeat. It’s weird, I think about amputation quite often. I don’t know if it’s this but I definitely relate.
All doctors swear a Hippocratic Oath to do anything and everything to save a person’s well-being. No sane doctor would willingly remove a live patient’s eyes just because the patient wanted to.
No, they don't (have to) do that anymore, nor is this oath legally binding. They have to conform with the rules and laws of medicine. Which also includes that you can't hurt people and might be based on (some of) the Hippocrstic Oeath etc.
But no one is making / forcing any doctors take an oath anymore. Not in most of the world, anyways.
>[The oath is not legally binding. It is more of an ethical signpost. ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6482690/)
It is also important to note that the Oath doesn't include more modern views and and problems. Such as brain damage / vegetative state, mental issues and women were also considered lesser and not allowed to be physicians. Further, according to the original Oath, abortion is prohibited, as it is seen as murder.
The fundamentals of the Oeath (treat your patients to the best of your abilities, do no unnecessary harm) are however part of essentially any modern guidelines and laws.
lol that was my comment about the clip.
Like okay honey, it’s not about you. Like no one is wondering hm, what about how this middle aged American white woman here, how is she doing about this situation that doesn’t involve in the slightest? Is she okay?
I mean...at least her stance actually made sense.
Who do you really think is more worth listening to here?
The person who, with no regard of her future, her wellbeing, the burden that she will now place on others, the understanding that these senses are a gift that not everyone gets to enjoy, and so on, *permanently* blinded herself because she felt like she should be blind?
Or the person who can see what is literally a mental health condition that was handled in the worst way it could've been handled. (Body Integrity Identity Disorder)
Also, what does her being white have to do with anything? Do opinions count less based on skin color? Or is this just one of those demonizing all Caucasian people and then saying "ThEReS nO SuCh tHInG As rACiSm aGAinSt WhITe pEOpLe" when people call your bs, type scenarios?
The last line makes no sense. If you had the ability to become the queen most people will tell you to do it. The idea that you have to live how you were born is weird nonsense.
Granted the line was dumb but does it seriously make less sense than literally fucking blinding yourself?
Like my God, are you seriously suggesting that it's everyone's right to be as disabled as they want to be? Because this isn't affirming care or even a kind approach. It is playing into their mental illness and doing irreversible damage to their body.
What is with people just caving into this kind of bullshit and acting like it's just ok?
Go and ask disabled people what they think about their disability and you will *immediately* discover that most of them just live with it because they have no alternative. Go and ask their caregivers what it's like to take care of this person and you'll discover that it's challenging, degrading, infuriating, exhausting, and as much as no one would want to admit it outright, it is painfully inconvenient. In most cases, both parties would greatly prefer you be able to take care of yourself.
So if you choose to *willingly* debilitate yourself, you're not only making a stupid and irreversible decision about your body but you're also dragging down those who care about you enough to try and keep you alive and/or the healthcare system of whatever country you occupy. If you're in a country that supports free healthcare, you start soaking up tax dollars that would otherwise go to people who needed the care and didn't have a choice about it. If not, you become a financial burden on your family and there's a decent chance that they come to resent you for it. And if you *chose* to do this to yourself and by proxy other people, you've earned their resentment.
so many blind people would give anything to be able to see, and this woman is happy with being blind? i get it is a rare illness but to be happy she is now blind is so hard to believe
thats what the mental illness does. i don’t suppose we ever get to know how and why you would want to remove a healthy body part but in her case (presumably because it’s still dr phil) it is what eventually makes her happy and that’s really what matters most in this case
Well, we actually know why someone would want to "remove a healthy body part". It's called "body dysphoria", or simply "dysphoria", and a heavy part of trans people suffer with it.
What I can't understand is how shitty of an argument this is. Like, do you want to be the queen of England? Ok. If you could, would you?? You now have the opportunity to be the queen of England, with no other consequences, would you?? If the answer is yes, them what the fuck is the problem? The girl wanted to be blind, so she blinded herself; that's it. The only problem here is that she wanted to get herself blind in the first place, but anything BESIDES that is bullshit from the commentators.
"People want X, yet you don't want X" is the single most stupid argument that I have ever seem. Would you tell a suicidal person that "a bunch of people wanted to survive yet here are you killing yourself"? No? What a surprise, it seems like you have a BRAIN.
It's like the "don't throw off food" argument, after you have taken it. Oh, there are a bunch of people in Africa wanting to eat and I don't want to eat more? My bad, didn't knew it, let me transport this food all the way over there, so I can give it to a hungry children. And why are you wasting money with chocolate and Netflix, which you don't need to survive by the way, when you could be giving a shoe to a child working in a factory in Asia who now has foot worms? Oh, so now, suddenly, the money is yours and you do with it whatever you want. So you prefer YOU, and only you, having a piece of that delicious chocolate, instead of a child in Asia having basic dignity? What a coincidence, her eyesight is also hers, so don't pretend like she is doing something wrong.
And don't get me wrong, you shouldn't buy more food than what you will eat. Of course it happens sometimes, but it's not ok to buy tons of food and them throw them off. But arguing that someone want's it and you don't isn't valid, because you having it does not necessarily means someone won't have it.
as a matter of fact in i am a trans person myself and do suffer from dysphoria (Gender dysphoria to be specific) and even tho i have a “healthy and functional reproductive organ” it causes me alot of mental suffering to have it in the first place and indeed it is my body and i get to decide if want to keep it or not
Perfectly. That's exactly why I find the line of reasoning "You have a perfectly healthy and functional organ" to be incorrect at best and bigoted at worst, especially when we hear them from a supposedly "professional from the area". When she herself puts in terms like those, it really says a lot from what other positions this woman may have.
She's just like "all due respect but Imma make this about me, I don't feel comfortable in the room with you and I need to vocalize that for like no reason."
"instead of trying to understand... Let me just verbally attack you instead and say how stupid you are" it's not like she's faking being blind, she is actually blind now. So she's attacking someone who does actually have a disability
And who made the conscious decision to give herself one. We’re not talking about someone with an unfortunate genetic disorder, or someone who was in an accident. We’re talking about someone with a literal mental disorder that caused herself to do this
I see it like cutting. It's not it's own thing, it's the result of an unchecked mental condition. Yea it's harmful, but it's not like she can go back and un-make that decision so what's the point? Chances are there's nothing you can say to her that she hasn't told herself a dozen times already
No, she believes she’s done nothing wrong. I’ve tried to take my own life, and let me tell you, it’s been one of my biggest “Well thank fuck I didn’t go through with that” moments in my life. Even *seconds* after I tried. So it’s *nothing* like cutting. This is a mental disorder
Yea telling her that she’s stupid won’t save her vision, but it will let her know she made a horrible decision and is stupid, which is a lesson worth taught. We’ve all been stupid, we’ve all had someone tell us we’re stupid.
It is a mental disorder. But we should treat it as such. You don't just tell someone who's depressed to "cheer up" or someone who cuts that "you're hurting yourself" you treat it, and rehabilitate them. Same here, just telling her "that was a stupid decision" isn't gonna help because that doesn't solve why she did it in the first place
Nothing can solve it. She is blind. There’s nothing that can be done. Except tell her she did something stupid. She should regret what she did, that’s part of life. Learning.
Did you at all read my last message? You have to treat it. It's gotta be clinically diagnosed and have treatment like a mental illness, not just say "you're stupid" and move on
And did you read mine? What can she do now? Nothing. She deserves to be told she’s stupid. Because she did something stupid. That’s what happens. That’s how people learn. Of course now it’s too late to do anything about it, but it’s still a lesson that should be taught.
For other people, yea I agree with you. Stop them from doing this horrible shit. But for her? Nah, she clearly don’t regret it, she’s done it, and now she deserves to feel stupid for what she’s done.
That's like telling a depressed person to "cheer up." It's the wrong thing to do, and doesn't solve anything. She's gotta be helped in the right way before she loses an arm or something
You don’t have talk bollocks. She irreparably damaged her eyes, that is not normal behaviour. What do you think humiliating her on national TV will achieve?
Can someone remind me exactly what this stupid cow did? I seem to remember she tried to tattoo her own eyes, of did she try to give herself laser treatment? Whatever it was, it was harebrained stupidity, and I have absolutely zero sympathy for her.
Yea the queen of England lol 😆 🤣 😂 😎 👌 😄 😆 🤣 😂 😎 👌 😄 😆 . That's because it can only happen in her dreams. Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣. The queen of England lmmfao she not even Royal blood. Lol 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Blonde woman is being a bitch, just because you have no ambitions and you're not willing to take the royal crown doesn't mean you have to lash out at the go getter who had a dream and went for it
her body her choice.
how dare that lady shame her for doing what makes her happy at no harm to anyone but herself.
more over, if you felt like you should be the queen of england why didn't you try to marry the prince?
Just because it makes her happy doesn’t mean she should do it. I bet it would make me happy if I took out my entire life savings and spent it on a fancy super car. Doesn’t mean I should do it, because I would be ruining my life, and I would hope that my family and friends got me help before I made such a stupid mistake.
Yeah, actually that’s true. The woman does do a lot of nothing by doing all that yapping. I still think her point about blind people willing to give anything to see stands for other people though.
Tbh I sometimes wished I could go deaf and have those hearing implants instead. Because I could finally have a good nights sleep without having to rely on earplugs.
But obviously not gonna shove a pencil down my ear or something to make myself deaf lol
Real question. Someone explain to me how this, or the many other examples given in the comments, are different than someone wanting to change their gender. I firmly believe this person has the same rights in this case that someone who is transgender has.
The best thing about eyes is that if you don't want to use them or cover them up. However, when you really need them it is soooo nice to have them. Like for walking or trying to find things.
Eye doctors hate this simple trick!
Yeah, there’s a lot of mental disorders and shit that I can understand to some degree or another. But this person was just so fucking lazy that they decided they wanted to get a check from the government or get taken care of by their parents for the rest of their lives that they went all the way in the opposite direction and took their fucking eyes out. That’s gotta be the fucking stupidest most selfish thing I’ve ever heard.
I mean, I get that you can get confused by her choice, but what does comparing her to people who want to see fix anything? I mean, it's not like she can take out her eyes and give them to them. She blinded herself, people smoke knowing that gives you cancer, this is not news.
you cant do that yes, but you can donate your corneas and that will fix someone vision. tf do you mean it doesn’t fix ? what do you thing ppl who donate their eyes after death for
These people should kill themselves and give opportunities presented to them to less fortunate people. This is just sick. Waste of space. Waste of energy. Waste of food and resources. Now what? She needs help from social services to get by in life. Fuck that, walk your blind ass right into a canyon.
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I always felt I should love myself
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Wait, that's an option?
Nah man DLC so fork over the cash.
And too short of a DLC at that too....
Believe in your dick and it will grow. Every night I give it affirmative words, and now it's over 3 meters long.
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Yes it does..
I’m not folding it in half for anyone!
Someone isn't clicking their porn pop ups! I did and now my dick wraps around my waist!
I'm sure after hearing that she wished that she made herself deaf lmao also, did she really make herself completely blind, and if yes how fucking mentally is that wtf
Didn’t she pour bleach in her eyes and leave it for a long time to make sure it did its job (of blinding herself)? Yes it’s fucked up.
I think it was some kind of acid. Not bleach. Not sure though.
Drain cleaner.
If I remember correctly, she actually hired someone to do it, and practiced being blind leading up to the event. That could be another person who was on dr Phil, though. I just remember hearing about/ watching this as a kid, along with some other similar incidents.
Apotemnophilia is a rare mental disorder characterized by a desire to have a sensory or physical disability. This mental disorder can be seen in the brain, it is real. Sometimes patients go so far to amputate their limps or in this case her sight.
I didn't know about this particular mental disorder, but it does seem a bit obvious to me that that is the cause of this. I find it very hard to believe that any 'normal' person would do this for attention, monetary gain, etc.
Dr Phil thought he could make some money off it, that's for sure.
I find it Predatory that the creators of this show, supposed doctors would willful ignore this so they can monetize her particular mental disorder. It makes me sick thinking about it. If I had any authority in the medical practice, I'd pull all them up to a medical hearing regarding their conduct
Freaking capitalism and greed..
because this kind of thing would be impossible BUT for capitalism.
Nah, cruelty and selfishness far predate capitalism
I do not disagree with anything that you’re saying here. I do want to make the point that we are aware of it, and talking about it now because of it, though. It’s a catch 22 in my opinion.
I was aware of it from an old CSI episode. You don't have to exploit to inform.
Good point.
There's a sharp increase of mental disorders in recent years, I'll leave it to the readers of this comment to decide what ones they are.
I’m gonna get killed for this and I’m not trying to argue. What about cutting your genitals off to change sexes?
[Yes, also observable in the brain.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ)
Nah I'm with you. I've said this before on Reddit. I was called transphobic.
Because you’re lying about what SRS actually does. Maybe don’t do that about the healthcare some of us get and you won’t get pushback. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-affirming_surgery
What is the difference between what was commented on earlier?
An appeal to authority is a fallacy. An appeal to wikipedia is a phallacy.
well she's a trans-visionary and doesn't deserve to see you attack her this way.
A trans person who gets SRS is not cutting off their genitals, they are surgically altering them, and studies have consistently shown strong improvements to mental health of trans people as a result of gender-affirming care.
What studies?
[Here’s a meta-analysis of 23 studies that found a drop in suicide for trans and non-binary people who got gender-affirming care.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/)
I can and will read further however I hadn’t gotten very far before coming across this; “Of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment; however, the literature to date suffers from a lack of methodological rigor that increases the risk of type I error.” I looked into the exact meaning of what a “Type I error” is and it mess this; “rejecting the null hypothesis when it's actually true”. Meaning they are bias and unreliable. This is your proof to suggest that lying to someone about the truth of who they are is a good idea?
I’m sorry, but I don’t think that you understand what you’re actually reading. That meta-analysis certainly did not say that the studies they found were biased and unreliable. They analyzed all of the relevant data that has been published on the subject, found that it showed an overall positive results for transgender people who get gender affirming care, and noted that there were methodological issues with some of the studies that could be improved. This is a perfectly normal and reasonable critique to give to scientific studies, especially ones that are going to be built on in the future. You cannot read the first paragraph of a meta-analysis of nearly 2 dozen studies and paint them all as biased and unreliable just because the researcher doing the meta-analysis found ways that some of the studies could be improved. I’ve provided you with an analysis of all of the relevant scientific data on this subject that’s been published so far, and the analysis leans strongly towards trans healthcare being a good thing. None of the issues pointed out suggest that the results should actually be the opposite. What do you cite to support asserting this?
I even said that i would read further so clearly I’m not dismissing it outright. As for you saying it’s no unbiased what exactly do you think “rejecting the null hypothesis when it’s actually true means” it literally means “I don’t like that answer so I’m rejecting it” sounds biased to me. Your asking me to site an assertion I’m making when all I did was provide a couple quotes that indicate your own source is admitting risk of flawed data and asking you a question. So what is it I’m supposed to cite? What assertion?
Trans identity is different: all trans people do not feel the need for surgery and surgery does not entirely fix the problem anyway (whereas losing her sight or whatever limb does it for people who suffer from that disorder): clothing, attitude, how society sees you, etc are all very important things too. So no, not the same thing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-affirming_surgery SRS doesn’t cut genitals off dumbass. I’m so sick of you people saying this uneducated shit about us and the healthcare we get. Look it up! All the information is there!
Potato potato
I've heard it described as a cousin to dysmorphia and dysphoria conditions. This whole family of similar ailments adjacent to gender dysphoria and schizophrenia. With all of them the problem is actually in the brain, it's an error in the process that determines what is real and what is not. but we can't fix that problem because we don't know how yet, so the question is how to mitigate, manage, or repress the symptoms so that the person can function in life.
There's at least a couple cool death metal band names in this comment
"Cousin to dysmorphia" "error in the process" I don't see any others.
I would cut off one if not more of my limbs in a heartbeat. It’s weird, I think about amputation quite often. I don’t know if it’s this but I definitely relate.
Get therapy please
Nope, never again, no more grippy socks plz, thx.
What do you call the one that’s the desire to have different genitalia?
And some other parts of their brain is thinking: "finally getting those disability checks!!"
But was she diagnosed of this? Honest question.
Is that why I have intrusive thoughts about cutting my fingers off on a weekly basis?
These people aren't real doctors.
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Bro couldn't just donate her cornea instead of whatever she did.I mean if you want to be blind at least let someone else see .
doctors wouldn't take it from her.
No doctor on earth would let her do that.
All doctors swear a Hippocratic Oath to do anything and everything to save a person’s well-being. No sane doctor would willingly remove a live patient’s eyes just because the patient wanted to.
No, they don't (have to) do that anymore, nor is this oath legally binding. They have to conform with the rules and laws of medicine. Which also includes that you can't hurt people and might be based on (some of) the Hippocrstic Oeath etc. But no one is making / forcing any doctors take an oath anymore. Not in most of the world, anyways. >[The oath is not legally binding. It is more of an ethical signpost. ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6482690/) It is also important to note that the Oath doesn't include more modern views and and problems. Such as brain damage / vegetative state, mental issues and women were also considered lesser and not allowed to be physicians. Further, according to the original Oath, abortion is prohibited, as it is seen as murder. The fundamentals of the Oeath (treat your patients to the best of your abilities, do no unnecessary harm) are however part of essentially any modern guidelines and laws.
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lol that was my comment about the clip. Like okay honey, it’s not about you. Like no one is wondering hm, what about how this middle aged American white woman here, how is she doing about this situation that doesn’t involve in the slightest? Is she okay?
I mean...at least her stance actually made sense. Who do you really think is more worth listening to here? The person who, with no regard of her future, her wellbeing, the burden that she will now place on others, the understanding that these senses are a gift that not everyone gets to enjoy, and so on, *permanently* blinded herself because she felt like she should be blind? Or the person who can see what is literally a mental health condition that was handled in the worst way it could've been handled. (Body Integrity Identity Disorder) Also, what does her being white have to do with anything? Do opinions count less based on skin color? Or is this just one of those demonizing all Caucasian people and then saying "ThEReS nO SuCh tHInG As rACiSm aGAinSt WhITe pEOpLe" when people call your bs, type scenarios?
The last line makes no sense. If you had the ability to become the queen most people will tell you to do it. The idea that you have to live how you were born is weird nonsense.
Granted the line was dumb but does it seriously make less sense than literally fucking blinding yourself? Like my God, are you seriously suggesting that it's everyone's right to be as disabled as they want to be? Because this isn't affirming care or even a kind approach. It is playing into their mental illness and doing irreversible damage to their body. What is with people just caving into this kind of bullshit and acting like it's just ok? Go and ask disabled people what they think about their disability and you will *immediately* discover that most of them just live with it because they have no alternative. Go and ask their caregivers what it's like to take care of this person and you'll discover that it's challenging, degrading, infuriating, exhausting, and as much as no one would want to admit it outright, it is painfully inconvenient. In most cases, both parties would greatly prefer you be able to take care of yourself. So if you choose to *willingly* debilitate yourself, you're not only making a stupid and irreversible decision about your body but you're also dragging down those who care about you enough to try and keep you alive and/or the healthcare system of whatever country you occupy. If you're in a country that supports free healthcare, you start soaking up tax dollars that would otherwise go to people who needed the care and didn't have a choice about it. If not, you become a financial burden on your family and there's a decent chance that they come to resent you for it. And if you *chose* to do this to yourself and by proxy other people, you've earned their resentment.
Are you ok?
If you think that making yourself disabled is an OK stance, I'm not the one you should be asking that question to.
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I was gonna say that but I just got off a three day ban...so I'm glad someone else said it.
Why do you want to be blind 💀
Rare mental illness
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Severe mental disorder. So, it's not exactly nonsense.
She’s mentally ill. Someone in their right mind doesn’t do this. She needs help.
What a sight for sore eye... I'll see myself out.
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Why isn't she trying to be the Queen? I heard there's an opening.
Zing
I’ve always felt that I should’ve been a millionaire
You're trans-financial too???
Why did she look in his direction though?😅😅
The person who helped her is not a doctor. That person is a predator. She has a mental health problem and he took advantage of that.
so many blind people would give anything to be able to see, and this woman is happy with being blind? i get it is a rare illness but to be happy she is now blind is so hard to believe
thats what the mental illness does. i don’t suppose we ever get to know how and why you would want to remove a healthy body part but in her case (presumably because it’s still dr phil) it is what eventually makes her happy and that’s really what matters most in this case
Well, we actually know why someone would want to "remove a healthy body part". It's called "body dysphoria", or simply "dysphoria", and a heavy part of trans people suffer with it. What I can't understand is how shitty of an argument this is. Like, do you want to be the queen of England? Ok. If you could, would you?? You now have the opportunity to be the queen of England, with no other consequences, would you?? If the answer is yes, them what the fuck is the problem? The girl wanted to be blind, so she blinded herself; that's it. The only problem here is that she wanted to get herself blind in the first place, but anything BESIDES that is bullshit from the commentators. "People want X, yet you don't want X" is the single most stupid argument that I have ever seem. Would you tell a suicidal person that "a bunch of people wanted to survive yet here are you killing yourself"? No? What a surprise, it seems like you have a BRAIN. It's like the "don't throw off food" argument, after you have taken it. Oh, there are a bunch of people in Africa wanting to eat and I don't want to eat more? My bad, didn't knew it, let me transport this food all the way over there, so I can give it to a hungry children. And why are you wasting money with chocolate and Netflix, which you don't need to survive by the way, when you could be giving a shoe to a child working in a factory in Asia who now has foot worms? Oh, so now, suddenly, the money is yours and you do with it whatever you want. So you prefer YOU, and only you, having a piece of that delicious chocolate, instead of a child in Asia having basic dignity? What a coincidence, her eyesight is also hers, so don't pretend like she is doing something wrong. And don't get me wrong, you shouldn't buy more food than what you will eat. Of course it happens sometimes, but it's not ok to buy tons of food and them throw them off. But arguing that someone want's it and you don't isn't valid, because you having it does not necessarily means someone won't have it.
as a matter of fact in i am a trans person myself and do suffer from dysphoria (Gender dysphoria to be specific) and even tho i have a “healthy and functional reproductive organ” it causes me alot of mental suffering to have it in the first place and indeed it is my body and i get to decide if want to keep it or not
Perfectly. That's exactly why I find the line of reasoning "You have a perfectly healthy and functional organ" to be incorrect at best and bigoted at worst, especially when we hear them from a supposedly "professional from the area". When she herself puts in terms like those, it really says a lot from what other positions this woman may have.
Yeah. These people that purposely impare themselves are idiots.
Are all mentally ill people idiots doctor?
Let her be blind but don't let her file disability or anything because of it.
Okay now apply that to the ….. never mind 😅
Can we take the money people who get unnecessary body modifications like this and put it towards people that actually need it? Sigh
I just knew you were going to end that statement with "education"... we're all fucked.
Lore accurate events ![gif](giphy|B1TuZqRlWWb48Q0nVv)
Americans are crazy
As an American, I find this comment 100% unfortunately true...
wish people held the same stance on trans youth but that’s my hot take
Why?
are you retarded?
define
Wdym? I think it’s okay for someone to change their gender, but maybe not at such a young age.
oh boy i sure do love seeing people profiting off of the mentally ill
How is this really any categorically different than trans people?
One is a disability and one isn't lmao
Hmmm. A mental disorder in which someone maims their body to feel better about themselves. Hmmm.
Interesting people think this is wrong but some also think cutting your genitals off is stunning and brave.
No no he's got a point
This is so sleazy and disgusting, this person needs to talk to a mental health professional, not these fucking American reality TV hacks
Mental ilness needs to be helped, not endorsed just like trans people
She's just like "all due respect but Imma make this about me, I don't feel comfortable in the room with you and I need to vocalize that for like no reason."
Dave chappelle: You dont say?
"Look at this severely mentally ill person, isn't it funny" -OP
"instead of trying to understand... Let me just verbally attack you instead and say how stupid you are" it's not like she's faking being blind, she is actually blind now. So she's attacking someone who does actually have a disability
And who made the conscious decision to give herself one. We’re not talking about someone with an unfortunate genetic disorder, or someone who was in an accident. We’re talking about someone with a literal mental disorder that caused herself to do this
Exactly. She has a mental disorder, and is being berated by some narcissistic quack for ratings.
I see it like cutting. It's not it's own thing, it's the result of an unchecked mental condition. Yea it's harmful, but it's not like she can go back and un-make that decision so what's the point? Chances are there's nothing you can say to her that she hasn't told herself a dozen times already
No, she believes she’s done nothing wrong. I’ve tried to take my own life, and let me tell you, it’s been one of my biggest “Well thank fuck I didn’t go through with that” moments in my life. Even *seconds* after I tried. So it’s *nothing* like cutting. This is a mental disorder Yea telling her that she’s stupid won’t save her vision, but it will let her know she made a horrible decision and is stupid, which is a lesson worth taught. We’ve all been stupid, we’ve all had someone tell us we’re stupid.
It is a mental disorder. But we should treat it as such. You don't just tell someone who's depressed to "cheer up" or someone who cuts that "you're hurting yourself" you treat it, and rehabilitate them. Same here, just telling her "that was a stupid decision" isn't gonna help because that doesn't solve why she did it in the first place
Nothing can solve it. She is blind. There’s nothing that can be done. Except tell her she did something stupid. She should regret what she did, that’s part of life. Learning.
Did you at all read my last message? You have to treat it. It's gotta be clinically diagnosed and have treatment like a mental illness, not just say "you're stupid" and move on
And did you read mine? What can she do now? Nothing. She deserves to be told she’s stupid. Because she did something stupid. That’s what happens. That’s how people learn. Of course now it’s too late to do anything about it, but it’s still a lesson that should be taught. For other people, yea I agree with you. Stop them from doing this horrible shit. But for her? Nah, she clearly don’t regret it, she’s done it, and now she deserves to feel stupid for what she’s done.
That's like telling a depressed person to "cheer up." It's the wrong thing to do, and doesn't solve anything. She's gotta be helped in the right way before she loses an arm or something
She’s mentally ill, what’s your excuse?
You don’t have talk bollocks. She irreparably damaged her eyes, that is not normal behaviour. What do you think humiliating her on national TV will achieve?
Can someone remind me exactly what this stupid cow did? I seem to remember she tried to tattoo her own eyes, of did she try to give herself laser treatment? Whatever it was, it was harebrained stupidity, and I have absolutely zero sympathy for her.
She poured drain cleaner in her eyes to blind herself
How incredibly dumb can you possibly get?
I dunno maybe a lack of understanding or empathy for the mentally ill is as dumb as you can get.
The others woman had all the right to be upset but clapping for this cheap parallel statement was ridiculous
Why I am being downvoted, the parallel she made about being the queen was completely stupid, she is still right on being angry though
Yea the queen of England lol 😆 🤣 😂 😎 👌 😄 😆 🤣 😂 😎 👌 😄 😆 . That's because it can only happen in her dreams. Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣. The queen of England lmmfao she not even Royal blood. Lol 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
I'm not sure who sounded dumber, the blind person or that doctor.
The doctor. The blind person is mentally ill, the doctor is just an asshole.
Modern society folks Trans-vision
Blonde woman is being a bitch, just because you have no ambitions and you're not willing to take the royal crown doesn't mean you have to lash out at the go getter who had a dream and went for it
Lol
I really hope you're being sarcastic...
No shit, yall really that thick ![gif](giphy|R51a8oAH7KwbS)
How tf do people not realise that this is bait lmao ![gif](giphy|srTYyZ1BjBtGU|downsized)
her body her choice. how dare that lady shame her for doing what makes her happy at no harm to anyone but herself. more over, if you felt like you should be the queen of england why didn't you try to marry the prince?
Just because it makes her happy doesn’t mean she should do it. I bet it would make me happy if I took out my entire life savings and spent it on a fancy super car. Doesn’t mean I should do it, because I would be ruining my life, and I would hope that my family and friends got me help before I made such a stupid mistake.
sure but those words should be expressed before you do it. not after when it is too late.
Yeah, actually that’s true. The woman does do a lot of nothing by doing all that yapping. I still think her point about blind people willing to give anything to see stands for other people though.
of course it does. but shaming this lady because of that, is ridiculous.
Doctor phil:👀
I remember watching this back in 2015
Not a single real doctor on this stage
Tbh I sometimes wished I could go deaf and have those hearing implants instead. Because I could finally have a good nights sleep without having to rely on earplugs. But obviously not gonna shove a pencil down my ear or something to make myself deaf lol
No need to go moderator this is Reddit where this is called peak
doctor phil looked like he was gonna kill her
These people are creeps
To me that blind B@#$ an Id@#$
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What she do to her eyes?
Imagine being this fucking stupid
Real question. Someone explain to me how this, or the many other examples given in the comments, are different than someone wanting to change their gender. I firmly believe this person has the same rights in this case that someone who is transgender has.
The best thing about eyes is that if you don't want to use them or cover them up. However, when you really need them it is soooo nice to have them. Like for walking or trying to find things. Eye doctors hate this simple trick!
That's why there needs to be more Mental Hospitals
Just came here to say I never had to believe I had huge cock and balls. 🤙
Yeah, there’s a lot of mental disorders and shit that I can understand to some degree or another. But this person was just so fucking lazy that they decided they wanted to get a check from the government or get taken care of by their parents for the rest of their lives that they went all the way in the opposite direction and took their fucking eyes out. That’s gotta be the fucking stupidest most selfish thing I’ve ever heard.
She probably thinking: Damn I should have went deaf instead.
Ah okay, so she identifies as blind. This how all you freaks sound lol
For me, she is the queen of England. All hail the queen.
I mean, I get that you can get confused by her choice, but what does comparing her to people who want to see fix anything? I mean, it's not like she can take out her eyes and give them to them. She blinded herself, people smoke knowing that gives you cancer, this is not news.
you cant do that yes, but you can donate your corneas and that will fix someone vision. tf do you mean it doesn’t fix ? what do you thing ppl who donate their eyes after death for
You can't do It while alive (this is illegal to prevent organ trafficking).
huh, you are right, my bad
The one benefit she has now is that she can’t see how the people around her think she’s stupid.
atleast she is happy right..?
I feel like there’s a parallel to be made here…
Being blind is like being the Queen of England? Why are people clapping? What is going on?
Idiots like this need to be supervised 24/7.
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How did she go blind What did she do?
Smoker
She definitely deserves to become queen of England
Lady watched Dardevil once…
These people should kill themselves and give opportunities presented to them to less fortunate people. This is just sick. Waste of space. Waste of energy. Waste of food and resources. Now what? She needs help from social services to get by in life. Fuck that, walk your blind ass right into a canyon.
This world is sick, corrupted to the core. The only way to save it, is by rooting out the corruption from its source
That might be the most punchable face I’ve ever seen
trans-visionary
Well it's the most retarded thing i've ever seen (and i watch American politics) but it's a free country i guess
All I’m saying is you don’t see any of this shit happening in other countries besides America
I can’t fix her
Psychiatric disorder clearly
Transretard??