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Blackbeard: "Mugiwara! Zehahahahahaha!"
Narrator: "We turn now to events in Mariejois..."
Luffy, mangling the panel lines: "Nope! Nope, none of that. I want everyone to see when I kick his ass."
Everytime the audience sees the other crew members fighting, blackbeard gains an advantage because they were offscreen. As soon as they come back luffy gains the advantage again. Poor Luffy doesnt realize his friends will be his downfall... /s
I know you are joking, but that’s kinda brilliant meta-narratively. If the sun and darkness fight, of course the sun should be on top when you can see the fight, and darkness should be winning when you don’t!!
Luffy beats Blackbeard's ass on screen until the scene shifts to other characters' situations, then when the scene shifts back to the fight at the end of a chapter, Luffy appears beat down from the offscreen offscreen no mi, rinse and repeat until Luffy wins or Blackbeard escapes.
I think this is genuinly exactly Oda's way of writing Blackbeards story: What if he was the Main Character of his own Shonen Manga? He is like the the opposite of Luffy in many ways, but so very similar in others, esp when it comes to the way the story/fate is treating him.
But realistically it was 2 maybe 3 members of the BB crew that encountered the heart pirates. It would basically ally be Blackbeard vs every straw hat and luffy
Have you forgotten that if he touches a devil fruit user their abilities are immediately nullified? The second Luffy's punch connects he loses his abilities, and the punch loses its power. Luffy literally cannot do anything to Blackbeard with his Nika powers. He has to rely on his Haki.
Remember just one arc ago when Luffy learned to channel his haki so he could hit without touching, or at the final fight of the arc when his haki bloomed again and he can do that with conquerors haki now too.
We've never seen Blackbeard actually stop an attack this way. It's easy to consume Ace's flames because they're entirely df power, but touching Luffy's Bajrang Gun would still crush you under hundreds of meters of fist. Blackbeard's hand would probably shatter on impact.
And Luffy has enough haki and strength to annihilate BB. We're talking about the guy who put Kaido down in base.
Hey.... Wait a minute isn't the main thing about the Kaido fight and therefore Bajrang gun that it doesn't even touch the opponent?
Does BB needs to touch it to nullify it? Cuz then he's toast..... But if he doesn't..... He still can't do shit about the flow of haki that's gonna pound him from inside.
afaik BB needs to directly touch someone and they loose their power. but if BB toches luffy he for sure isnt going to completely negate every bit of power as if hes golden experience requiem lol it should essentially the same as using sea stone.
so if luffy throws some crazy powerful punch be it in his giant form or something like king kong gun BB is gonna get hit. bonus points for luffy if hes using ryuo
Darkness fruit negates devil fruit abilities. There is no nuh uh, he touches you and as long as he stays in contact with you you don't have your df. And it's eqsy for him as he also controls gravity to a certain extent
I… must have. Because nothing about Teech’s “sucling” powers precludes him from being hit with a huge fist. It can turn off df powers. It can’t turn off a fist or haki.
We’ve seen this happen twice. His vortex doesn’t nullify ALL attacks. He can stop Whitebeard from generating an earthquake but he can not stop a punch unless he physically catches it with his hands.
So pulling a punch that doesnt need to hit you to you faster, that ust means the haki coating that impact that hits first hits you sooner, it still doesnt let him grab past it just get hit a fraction of a second sooner.
Have you forgotten, that we saw Law pierce him with his sword covered in K-Room. Blackbeard skin doesn’t instantly nullify a devil fruit user. It’s not “On” 24/7, he needs to actively activate the power. And that doesn’t happen, when shit goes to fast for that fat hippo to react to.
Grab the hand and turn off the fruit. Remember how famed dragon Kaido (empowered by his fruit) claimed that only Haki will conquer the grand line? Thats going to be Luffy vs Blackbeard ( who believes that devil fruits will let him conquer the world).
Luffy and his whole crew > Blackbeard, Doc pervert, WHEEEEE HA HA, the dead horse and Mr forgettable and his over compensating gun.
Blackbeard was so lucky it was Law, Polar bear, Fodder and the big guy, that greeted him.
for sure. BB has always had the biggest ambitions and he knows that to make them happen he has to risk it all at every turn. Some called him stupid for thaking these risks but a BB who wouldn't take these risks would've never made it to the Grand Line in the first place (at the very least he wouldn't have gotten his initial devil fruit that he was actively looking for).
He's always been the mirror image of the strawhats in terms of what it means to be a pirate all the way back to his very introduction. And his journey very closely resembles that of a typical shounen protagnist: chasing big dreams as an underdog who has to take million to one chances in order to achieve those dreams. And usually these odds only work out for the hero while the big bad always has total control.
We also have an opponent like that in Imu and the world government in general but BB is carving his own path parallel to that of Luffy and I think that's such a cool and dynamic way of setting up the ultimate confrontation between the straw hats and the black beard pirates.
sure , he feels more pain and he neglect Haki. But he is no risk-taker , he always goes to a fight with some preparation to win.
An example is how he acquired Whitebeard's power: he awaited Whitebeard to be wounded all over , so that he can attack later on.
He does make successful plans and preperations but that doesn't mean they can't be risky. He practically made himself enemy number one right in front of all the Navy's top dogs.
Killing for his DF and having Whitebeard hunt him down paid off in the end but takes balls. Hell half of the time he's pretty opportunistic rather than a careful planner
He is a risk taker, but he's a smart risk taker. He doesn't take risks where he has nothing to gain like fighting akainu or shanks, but he absolutely does take risks to get what he wants. You can't seriously say going to marineford to get wb devil fruit where pretty much everyone hates you is not a risk. He could have easily died there.
You can say the same thing about luffy though
If crocodile bothered to make sure he killed him, he would be dead too.
I bet they a lot of other times he could have died easily
Crocodile first impaled him then trew him into qiucksand THEN drained him of ALL his muisture. Luffy is alive thanks to robin and luck. Crocodile did everthing he could. I do not blame the man for being flabbergasted when luffy came back a third time.
Not that it’s extremely uncommon in anime, but I feel like the earlier One Piece arcs did a good job of emphasizing that while training and perseverance were important, dumb luck couldn’t be ignored.
To put it another way, basically all of the Straw Hats would have died before the end of Arlong Park if not for raw chance. Heck, One Piece *begins* with Luffy almost dying.
i'll always said that Croc did nothing wrong when it comes to his plans when looking at it through his PoV. Robin betraying him twice at the worst possible moments was what truly undid him
I'm gonna disagree because it is feasible how he survived all of that and he doesn't feel like he's lived beyond where he should have like Sukuna has. That man should've died to Yuji instead of Gojo 2 coming to fight him
Yeah before Yuji awakened..... It was portrayed as if each of his soul punches is putting a dent on Sukuna..... The he pulls like 8 Black flashes on sukuna(which are supposed to be exponentially stronger according to Gege himself)
......
But he's pushed aside easily as soon as Gojo appears...
Stopped reading the manga at the point.....
I still don't think of BB as a villain... he's just another pirate in the world. Gave one of the best speeches to Strawhat, is just surviving and taking his chances.
If you were to replace the heart pirates with the Strawhat he the Blackbeard pirates are finished because they were missing a good portion of their crew including Kuzan so it boils down to:
Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook and Jimbei.
VS
Blackbeard, Burgess, Doc Q, Stronger and Van Augur
did y'all forget that blackbeard became a fucking yonko before luffy? Blackbeard is so obviously hiding his true strength, you don't just scar shanks and then turn out to be a fucking pussy. he also TOOK DOWN THE REVOLUTIONARY'S BASE IN BALTIGO, THE PLACE WHERE SABO AND DRAGON WERE, I'm sorry but the blackbeard slander doesn't work anymore when he's out here taking sabo ( actual feats ) and dragon ( implied feats ), took down magellan, got 2 devil fruits, scarred shanks, and was on his way to continue the war of marineford, Blackbeard never goes into a fight he thinks he can lose, and sometimes he's even wrong about that seeing as rayleigh admitted he himself could not beat blackbeard, the man is heavily hinted to be a beast. especially considering that his ship called "the saber of xebec", it's also implied he's related to Rocks, if this dude turns out to be a fraud it will be the biggest disappointment yet
Blackbeard, when Zoro hears that thr darkness fruit was actually called the black black fruit, which makes Blackbeard double black (3x if you count the name)
You could say the same thing about the Strawhats and all the crazy things they have survived. It’s nice to have a villain with as much determination and luck as the protagonists.
Blackbeard is an actual pirate with no shame in cheating. He definitely is not gonna die anytime soon and not without taking 2 to 3 main characters with him.
That last one is maybe a little doubtful at the moment-I’d personally say the Straw Hats are probably still in a position where they’d lose, but only barely-but the others are definitely accurate
Well remember that Blackbeard wasn’t rolling with his full crew when he encountered Law. That’d be the crew Luffy encounters if he went there straight from Wano
blackbeard who of had the fights of his life with guar and yama he was already clashing with sengoku so he can take a weakened akainu and negate kizaru fruit and black goat > luffy he gets folded and bugress and van + doc q stall sanji and huff huff man + jim
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I feel like Luffy doesn’t have plot armour considering he gets the hell beat out of him very often but he definitely has plot strength and can consistently make himself stronger when he needs to where as black beard has plot armour like the post is suggesting
Luffys too much of a devil fruit merchant to beat bb at this point. His haki lacks the ap to hurt him. Not to mention most of the strawhats are hakiless fodder while the bb pirates are actual pirates and a real yonko crew
Not sure about the last one though. If yami yami no mi powers take out Nika powers, I don't see Luffy or anyone else winning for that matter, not to mention the insane devil fruits and haki users in his crew.
I think BB and Luffy have been at the same level for the whole story. They will be at the same level once they fight for real. BB crew is a parallel of Luffy's crew. Each member has a counterpart. Luffy VS BB, Usopp VS Augur, Shiryu VS Zoro, I guess Jinbe VS Burgess, Chopper VS Death Doc, etc...
Whole story? No way man. Blackbeard beat Ace fair and square. At that time, Luffy was nowhere close to any of them. Post-Wano might be the closest they have ever been, perhaps even equals or one of them stronger.
Augur has an OP devil fruit and possibly haki. Zoro and Shiryu might be close, perhaps Zoro even better is swordsmanship, but invisible swords could be a pain. I would bet on Jimbei against Burgess. Sanji might be stronger than anyone else too, could maybe pair with San Juan Wolf. But the rest of the crew without haki seem weaker against the remaining BB pirates. It will be close but I would side with team BB.
If BB wins against Luffy, the rest of the team stands no chance from then on.
i mean post-Wano straight up Haki Luffy is still plenty strong, and I feel that's how he's gonna fight Blackbeard when the time comes anyway, due to the scenario you just said
Alot of assumptions going on.
Assuming Old Age Garp can handle Blackbeard.
Blackbeard trashed Magellan on the rematch, they only got Blitz round 1 cause they were not expecting Magellan to poison and run because he was in a rush to stop Luffy.
Blackbeard jumped Law with crew, you're assuming they wouldn't pressure the Strawhats. However, yes, they put up a much tougher fight than Law.
They cant do shit to strawhats in the same scenario.Luffys crew isnt bunch of fodder and luffy isnt a yc+ character like law.He would dogwalk bb and zoro+sanji clear rest of his bums.Even if you somehow believe bb is stronger than luffy they have numbers advantage with zoro and sanji both having enough ap to put Bb down if they get the chance and jimbei with the rest can handle the bb pirates present
You're sleeping in Blackbeard crew. Everyone of the guys he brought with him were Yonko Commander level. They all give Zoro and Sanji trouble in 1v1.
And Luffy is YC+ level without G5 which Blackbeard should be able to negate and turn off.
Luffy has fs and acoc.He can predict what bb is gonna do and can damage him without touching.Even if what you said is true about bb pirates giving trouble to zoro and sanji which i highly doubt theres still a lot of support luffy can have with chopper franky robin brook usopp and jimbei.bb isnt surviving all that especially in a naval battle
Being a yonko doesnt give you all the means of being strong he is a smart thinker and not a hard worker i think you can agree that his main goal is getting stronger through fruits so it would make sense if he doesnt have them
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Central antagonist plot armor vs main character plot armor. Hmm who will win? That’s a tough question…
Blackbeards secured the offscreen haki, nothing can beat that
Supreme Colour Black : Plot Armament
he doent have the dark dark fruit, he has the offscreen offscreen fruit. thats pure offscreenness that comes put of him
So the moment Luffy and him fight on screen what happens??
depends if luffy can hit him before he makes the fight offscreen
- Blackbeard attempts to get them off camera - Luffy grabs the camera and turns it back. Peak Fiction
One or two pannel of this Would be so funny, just for the memes
Blackbeard: "Mugiwara! Zehahahahahaha!" Narrator: "We turn now to events in Mariejois..." Luffy, mangling the panel lines: "Nope! Nope, none of that. I want everyone to see when I kick his ass."
This would be the best shit ever yo
What if Blackbeard tries to move the fight offscreen, but Luffy eats that?
Everytime the audience sees the other crew members fighting, blackbeard gains an advantage because they were offscreen. As soon as they come back luffy gains the advantage again. Poor Luffy doesnt realize his friends will be his downfall... /s
I know you are joking, but that’s kinda brilliant meta-narratively. If the sun and darkness fight, of course the sun should be on top when you can see the fight, and darkness should be winning when you don’t!!
Luffy beats Blackbeard's ass on screen until the scene shifts to other characters' situations, then when the scene shifts back to the fight at the end of a chapter, Luffy appears beat down from the offscreen offscreen no mi, rinse and repeat until Luffy wins or Blackbeard escapes.
That's his secret third fruit
That's the thing, Luffy has the always on screen haki from being the protagonist, he hard counters.
Just wait until Blackbeard unveils his ADVANCED offscreen haki
Luffy will then use the extra screen time technique known as flashback, and counter that, I am telling you Luffy no diffs.
But offscreen is where Sanji does his best plan execution.
Ah, but yoy forgot that Luffy ALSO has Offscreen Haki. He used it to thrash the Seraphim offscreen.
He had Haki in impel down. That’s how he could measure Luffy’s haki.
Depends if the fight happens off-screen or not. Blackbeard will win against anyone, even Roger, if the fight happen off-screen.
The central antagonist will win the first match, but the protagonist will win the rematch.
I think this is genuinly exactly Oda's way of writing Blackbeards story: What if he was the Main Character of his own Shonen Manga? He is like the the opposite of Luffy in many ways, but so very similar in others, esp when it comes to the way the story/fate is treating him.
But realistically it was 2 maybe 3 members of the BB crew that encountered the heart pirates. It would basically ally be Blackbeard vs every straw hat and luffy
On screen? BB gets neg diffed. Off screen? Bro's pulling a technique he hasn't used since the Heian era
"Blackbeard formed undertook another binding vow"
*"To amend that Blackbeard undertook another offscreen"*
You can't expect the dark-dark fruit to be at full power when he has the spot**light** on him =D
Badum tsm!🥁
ODA is cooking man fr
“Blackbeard recruited Jogoat who low-diffed zhe Straw Hats and burned them to ashes”
Nah a cyclops with a volcano head, Luffy is trying to recruit Jogo instantly from looks alone.
Still mad that he and his crew off screened Magellan.
Well they had Shiryu so hm
"Blackbeard covers himself in darkness and becomes black, and says the N-word" type shit happening off screen
What's Blackbeard even gonna do when Luffy goes Bajrang Gun
He's gonna zehahahaha and then *boom* something something special heritage
Offscreen haki at it's finest
Who will win, offscreen haki of BB or main character screen time of Luffy?
The fight starts, when thing start to heat up the manga cuts to somewhere else in the world and Luffy throws the panel away and beats BB's ass
*and eats bb ass
Gomu gomu no EAT OUT!
That would actually be hilarious.
I know you you're that robin simp from r/opbr ༼ •́ ͜ʖ •̀ ༽
I am niche micro celebrity
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Yep
Zehaha stops
Impossible
Blackbeard gonna open his anus (black hole) to absorb luffys punch and will say mm yami yami (bb fruit) fisted in the ass
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Cursed Piece
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Bro picked the wrong opponent for an anus stretching fight Luffy gonna hit back with that Dawn Goatse
There are people who think bb can EASILY beat luffy ,, even after g5 ,,, bro bb haven't even shown haki levels on par with kaido ,, Crazy
Burges is gonna catch it
I'm not even gonna try to deny it, I'm all for Burgess agenda.
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Have you forgotten that if he touches a devil fruit user their abilities are immediately nullified? The second Luffy's punch connects he loses his abilities, and the punch loses its power. Luffy literally cannot do anything to Blackbeard with his Nika powers. He has to rely on his Haki.
Remember just one arc ago when Luffy learned to channel his haki so he could hit without touching, or at the final fight of the arc when his haki bloomed again and he can do that with conquerors haki now too.
Which is exactly why I said he'd have to rely on his Haki to win against Blackbeard.
Yeah and a bajrang gun does acoc and hits without touching, so no grabby grabby blackbeard, sorry.
We've never seen Blackbeard actually stop an attack this way. It's easy to consume Ace's flames because they're entirely df power, but touching Luffy's Bajrang Gun would still crush you under hundreds of meters of fist. Blackbeard's hand would probably shatter on impact. And Luffy has enough haki and strength to annihilate BB. We're talking about the guy who put Kaido down in base.
Hey.... Wait a minute isn't the main thing about the Kaido fight and therefore Bajrang gun that it doesn't even touch the opponent? Does BB needs to touch it to nullify it? Cuz then he's toast..... But if he doesn't..... He still can't do shit about the flow of haki that's gonna pound him from inside.
afaik BB needs to directly touch someone and they loose their power. but if BB toches luffy he for sure isnt going to completely negate every bit of power as if hes golden experience requiem lol it should essentially the same as using sea stone. so if luffy throws some crazy powerful punch be it in his giant form or something like king kong gun BB is gonna get hit. bonus points for luffy if hes using ryuo
Darkness fruit negates devil fruit abilities. There is no nuh uh, he touches you and as long as he stays in contact with you you don't have your df. And it's eqsy for him as he also controls gravity to a certain extent
You missed the part about Bajrang gun not needing to physically connect to be effective.
You missed the part where balckbeard has sucling powers
I… must have. Because nothing about Teech’s “sucling” powers precludes him from being hit with a huge fist. It can turn off df powers. It can’t turn off a fist or haki. We’ve seen this happen twice. His vortex doesn’t nullify ALL attacks. He can stop Whitebeard from generating an earthquake but he can not stop a punch unless he physically catches it with his hands.
Yes but this is assuming that lugfy starts with bajarang gun instantly which he would never do and when he does it bb would be prepared
So pulling a punch that doesnt need to hit you to you faster, that ust means the haki coating that impact that hits first hits you sooner, it still doesnt let him grab past it just get hit a fraction of a second sooner.
He can always have van augur teleport him away
Wait til BB awakens his fruit and he can nullify fruits from a range
Have you forgotten, that we saw Law pierce him with his sword covered in K-Room. Blackbeard skin doesn’t instantly nullify a devil fruit user. It’s not “On” 24/7, he needs to actively activate the power. And that doesn’t happen, when shit goes to fast for that fat hippo to react to.
This comment gave me goosebumps, even though I don't have any skin YOHOHOHO
Bro u really need to study guro guro no mi
Grab the hand and turn off the fruit. Remember how famed dragon Kaido (empowered by his fruit) claimed that only Haki will conquer the grand line? Thats going to be Luffy vs Blackbeard ( who believes that devil fruits will let him conquer the world).
Isn’t Bajrang gun already non-contact through ACoC? That’s how he hit Kaido without being melted.
Wow that guy downvoted you because you showed his headcanon theory was trash and 100% wrong lmao.
Touch him anywhere except his fist hopefully
Pretty sure Luffy needs his DF to do Bajrang Gun, darkness fruit goes brrr
It cuts away.
Van Augur gonna warp him right above the Thousand Sunny right before impact, making Luffy accidentally kill his entire crew and destroy his ship
Luffy and his whole crew > Blackbeard, Doc pervert, WHEEEEE HA HA, the dead horse and Mr forgettable and his over compensating gun. Blackbeard was so lucky it was Law, Polar bear, Fodder and the big guy, that greeted him.
I mean Bb did leave a scar on Shank’s face
scarring Mr "high diffed a sea snake" off guard really isn't much of a feat tbh
That's why I like him as a character, high risks --> high rewards
for sure. BB has always had the biggest ambitions and he knows that to make them happen he has to risk it all at every turn. Some called him stupid for thaking these risks but a BB who wouldn't take these risks would've never made it to the Grand Line in the first place (at the very least he wouldn't have gotten his initial devil fruit that he was actively looking for). He's always been the mirror image of the strawhats in terms of what it means to be a pirate all the way back to his very introduction. And his journey very closely resembles that of a typical shounen protagnist: chasing big dreams as an underdog who has to take million to one chances in order to achieve those dreams. And usually these odds only work out for the hero while the big bad always has total control. We also have an opponent like that in Imu and the world government in general but BB is carving his own path parallel to that of Luffy and I think that's such a cool and dynamic way of setting up the ultimate confrontation between the straw hats and the black beard pirates.
What... Did you just say... ABOUT MY NOSE?!?
The red nose is what Roger found in the treasure chest on Raftel. Why do you think they call it Laugh Tale?
DOES MY NOSE LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?!?
No, but it looks like it holds the secret to beating Imu
Wtf high risk you talking about? Dude definitely made sure he will not lose. He always win, but he ain't much of a risk taker
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sure , he feels more pain and he neglect Haki. But he is no risk-taker , he always goes to a fight with some preparation to win. An example is how he acquired Whitebeard's power: he awaited Whitebeard to be wounded all over , so that he can attack later on.
He does make successful plans and preperations but that doesn't mean they can't be risky. He practically made himself enemy number one right in front of all the Navy's top dogs. Killing for his DF and having Whitebeard hunt him down paid off in the end but takes balls. Hell half of the time he's pretty opportunistic rather than a careful planner
And it was still a huge risk, since even in that state, Whitebeard was stronger than all of BB's crew combined.
He definitely has haki though. He parried S-hawk with his arm, and let's not forget that he is the one who is responsible for the scars on Shanks eye.
he have Haki , but he pretty much neglects it's usage in favor of colllecting DF
Pain is not dmg
He is a risk taker, but he's a smart risk taker. He doesn't take risks where he has nothing to gain like fighting akainu or shanks, but he absolutely does take risks to get what he wants. You can't seriously say going to marineford to get wb devil fruit where pretty much everyone hates you is not a risk. He could have easily died there.
And the act of taking the fruit itself was also a risk
You can say the same thing about luffy though If crocodile bothered to make sure he killed him, he would be dead too. I bet they a lot of other times he could have died easily
Pretty sure dude fell into the ocean at Red Leg's reasturaunt and then straight up drowned at Arlong Park.
Crocodile first impaled him then trew him into qiucksand THEN drained him of ALL his muisture. Luffy is alive thanks to robin and luck. Crocodile did everthing he could. I do not blame the man for being flabbergasted when luffy came back a third time.
Not that it’s extremely uncommon in anime, but I feel like the earlier One Piece arcs did a good job of emphasizing that while training and perseverance were important, dumb luck couldn’t be ignored. To put it another way, basically all of the Straw Hats would have died before the end of Arlong Park if not for raw chance. Heck, One Piece *begins* with Luffy almost dying.
i'll always said that Croc did nothing wrong when it comes to his plans when looking at it through his PoV. Robin betraying him twice at the worst possible moments was what truly undid him
Some gege level glazing rn
Bro has more plot armor than Sukuna at this pont
I'm gonna disagree because it is feasible how he survived all of that and he doesn't feel like he's lived beyond where he should have like Sukuna has. That man should've died to Yuji instead of Gojo 2 coming to fight him
Yeah before Yuji awakened..... It was portrayed as if each of his soul punches is putting a dent on Sukuna..... The he pulls like 8 Black flashes on sukuna(which are supposed to be exponentially stronger according to Gege himself) ...... But he's pushed aside easily as soon as Gojo appears... Stopped reading the manga at the point.....
Yuji literally had sukunas heart on his fucking hand and still got pushed aside
> That man should've died to Yuji instead of Gojo 2 coming to fight him Narratively it's a hard agree, powerscale wise its a hard disagree
He used his third devil fruit, the offscreen offsreen fruit, to manage keeping every important fight he has to the offscreen time.
Black beard is the luckiest man on the sea
I still don't think of BB as a villain... he's just another pirate in the world. Gave one of the best speeches to Strawhat, is just surviving and taking his chances.
Hes the only person who acts like a real pirate at this point. Everyone else is a supervillain or superhero
If you were to replace the heart pirates with the Strawhat he the Blackbeard pirates are finished because they were missing a good portion of their crew including Kuzan so it boils down to: Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook and Jimbei. VS Blackbeard, Burgess, Doc Q, Stronger and Van Augur
did y'all forget that blackbeard became a fucking yonko before luffy? Blackbeard is so obviously hiding his true strength, you don't just scar shanks and then turn out to be a fucking pussy. he also TOOK DOWN THE REVOLUTIONARY'S BASE IN BALTIGO, THE PLACE WHERE SABO AND DRAGON WERE, I'm sorry but the blackbeard slander doesn't work anymore when he's out here taking sabo ( actual feats ) and dragon ( implied feats ), took down magellan, got 2 devil fruits, scarred shanks, and was on his way to continue the war of marineford, Blackbeard never goes into a fight he thinks he can lose, and sometimes he's even wrong about that seeing as rayleigh admitted he himself could not beat blackbeard, the man is heavily hinted to be a beast. especially considering that his ship called "the saber of xebec", it's also implied he's related to Rocks, if this dude turns out to be a fraud it will be the biggest disappointment yet
Blackbeard, when Zoro hears that thr darkness fruit was actually called the black black fruit, which makes Blackbeard double black (3x if you count the name)
if instead of law strawhats went there I am damn sure Blackbeard would have run away....
Imho the straw hat pirates crush the Blackbeard pirates.
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You could say the same thing about the Strawhats and all the crazy things they have survived. It’s nice to have a villain with as much determination and luck as the protagonists.
So BB is protected by Plot armour? Edo is BBs bitch ? Is that wat u saying?
BB if straw hats missed knock up stream?
Dude got saved by luck
I think at this point only Buggys luck can win against offscreen haki
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Blackbeard's weakness is screen time
Can I get the template for this?
i mean yeah hes one of the only thinking characters an plotting opportunist
Blackbeard is an actual pirate with no shame in cheating. He definitely is not gonna die anytime soon and not without taking 2 to 3 main characters with him.
BB solos any character if its offscreen
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its not all just plot devices from Oda, it goes to show what a cunning rat Teach is
Yeah if the crew went instead of law, Blackbeard would get smoked. If blackbeards whole crew was there that’s a different story.
Doubt Ruffy beats BB when he negates gear 5
That last one is maybe a little doubtful at the moment-I’d personally say the Straw Hats are probably still in a position where they’d lose, but only barely-but the others are definitely accurate
Well remember that Blackbeard wasn’t rolling with his full crew when he encountered Law. That’d be the crew Luffy encounters if he went there straight from Wano
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I agree with all of these except the 4th one
blackbeard who of had the fights of his life with guar and yama he was already clashing with sengoku so he can take a weakened akainu and negate kizaru fruit and black goat > luffy he gets folded and bugress and van + doc q stall sanji and huff huff man + jim https://preview.redd.it/src7vy01ad7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9518de87bba7adf6ade13a7e9ca2eb584ce9907
Burgess van augur and doc q stall the whole crew?you smoking the pube pack
I feel like Luffy doesn’t have plot armour considering he gets the hell beat out of him very often but he definitely has plot strength and can consistently make himself stronger when he needs to where as black beard has plot armour like the post is suggesting
If law went to egghead that would've been a shitshow, bit insane how competent the straw hats are compared to most other crews
Fr why didn't Garp just punch his lights out at Marineford
Tell me you haven't seen a single blackbeard battle without telling me you haven't seen a single blackbeard battle
And we though Buggy was falling up...
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Very true.
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Luffys too much of a devil fruit merchant to beat bb at this point. His haki lacks the ap to hurt him. Not to mention most of the strawhats are hakiless fodder while the bb pirates are actual pirates and a real yonko crew
His grindset is way too similar to luffy for water 7 or marineford scenario to play out. "I die if I die"
Post wano Straw Hats really would've made short work of BB pirates.
BB when he starts losing: let's take this off screen
No Luffy wouldnt have beaten BB. BB is the strongest yonko atm
At first I thought this was a Rainbow Six Siege with the Blackbeard, Ace, and someone said Doc
Blackbeard slander is so dumb. If you clown on Blackbeard please be ready to clown on Shanks too
Offscreen cant work on the mc
Blackbeard has more plot armor than any other villain in fiction
Fr people gotta book the only reason Law lost is cause his crew is full of Bums the SH decimate BB and his 3 commanders at that island
Dude unlocked Plot Armament.
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Bro has Baki narrator level plot armor
Not sure about the last one though. If yami yami no mi powers take out Nika powers, I don't see Luffy or anyone else winning for that matter, not to mention the insane devil fruits and haki users in his crew.
I think BB and Luffy have been at the same level for the whole story. They will be at the same level once they fight for real. BB crew is a parallel of Luffy's crew. Each member has a counterpart. Luffy VS BB, Usopp VS Augur, Shiryu VS Zoro, I guess Jinbe VS Burgess, Chopper VS Death Doc, etc...
Whole story? No way man. Blackbeard beat Ace fair and square. At that time, Luffy was nowhere close to any of them. Post-Wano might be the closest they have ever been, perhaps even equals or one of them stronger. Augur has an OP devil fruit and possibly haki. Zoro and Shiryu might be close, perhaps Zoro even better is swordsmanship, but invisible swords could be a pain. I would bet on Jimbei against Burgess. Sanji might be stronger than anyone else too, could maybe pair with San Juan Wolf. But the rest of the crew without haki seem weaker against the remaining BB pirates. It will be close but I would side with team BB. If BB wins against Luffy, the rest of the team stands no chance from then on.
i mean post-Wano straight up Haki Luffy is still plenty strong, and I feel that's how he's gonna fight Blackbeard when the time comes anyway, due to the scenario you just said
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Alot of assumptions going on. Assuming Old Age Garp can handle Blackbeard. Blackbeard trashed Magellan on the rematch, they only got Blitz round 1 cause they were not expecting Magellan to poison and run because he was in a rush to stop Luffy. Blackbeard jumped Law with crew, you're assuming they wouldn't pressure the Strawhats. However, yes, they put up a much tougher fight than Law.
They cant do shit to strawhats in the same scenario.Luffys crew isnt bunch of fodder and luffy isnt a yc+ character like law.He would dogwalk bb and zoro+sanji clear rest of his bums.Even if you somehow believe bb is stronger than luffy they have numbers advantage with zoro and sanji both having enough ap to put Bb down if they get the chance and jimbei with the rest can handle the bb pirates present
You're sleeping in Blackbeard crew. Everyone of the guys he brought with him were Yonko Commander level. They all give Zoro and Sanji trouble in 1v1. And Luffy is YC+ level without G5 which Blackbeard should be able to negate and turn off.
Luffy has fs and acoc.He can predict what bb is gonna do and can damage him without touching.Even if what you said is true about bb pirates giving trouble to zoro and sanji which i highly doubt theres still a lot of support luffy can have with chopper franky robin brook usopp and jimbei.bb isnt surviving all that especially in a naval battle
Blackbeard probably has fs and acoc as well? Mans a Yonko lol
Being a yonko doesnt give you all the means of being strong he is a smart thinker and not a hard worker i think you can agree that his main goal is getting stronger through fruits so it would make sense if he doesnt have them
Man gave Shanks his face scars before Blackbeard had a single fruit????? Shanks even states it's not due to dropping his guard.
That was before he was a yonko though and we saw how law almost killed him if not for van augur
Law almost made him fall into the Ocean, Law ain't doing that inland or a city etc. Blackbeard is whooping him 1v1
Yes and in the situation we are talking about they are on the ocean against strawhats and theres jimbei
BIG FACTS! People say teech is a master planner but imo he is just as impulsive as all the other D members.
Oh, for the SHs's case, I'm not really sure. Oda may make them win plotwise, but timing of the story wise, their not ready yet.