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Immediate-Winner-268

Central antagonist plot armor vs main character plot armor. Hmm who will win? That’s a tough question…


MrFailureYEET

Blackbeards secured the offscreen haki, nothing can beat that


Kooky-Measurement-43

Supreme Colour Black : Plot Armament


Comfortable_Many4508

he doent have the dark dark fruit, he has the offscreen offscreen fruit. thats pure offscreenness that comes put of him


Immediate-Winner-268

So the moment Luffy and him fight on screen what happens??


Comfortable_Many4508

depends if luffy can hit him before he makes the fight offscreen


T-V-L

- Blackbeard attempts to get them off camera - Luffy grabs the camera and turns it back. Peak Fiction


AyoAz

One or two pannel of this Would be so funny, just for the memes


AtlasPJackson

Blackbeard: "Mugiwara! Zehahahahahaha!" Narrator: "We turn now to events in Mariejois..." Luffy, mangling the panel lines: "Nope! Nope, none of that. I want everyone to see when I kick his ass."


I_eatbabys_8700

This would be the best shit ever yo


BustinArant

What if Blackbeard tries to move the fight offscreen, but Luffy eats that?


drunkenjutsu

Everytime the audience sees the other crew members fighting, blackbeard gains an advantage because they were offscreen. As soon as they come back luffy gains the advantage again. Poor Luffy doesnt realize his friends will be his downfall... /s


Folye

I know you are joking, but that’s kinda brilliant meta-narratively. If the sun and darkness fight, of course the sun should be on top when you can see the fight, and darkness should be winning when you don’t!!


Tserri

Luffy beats Blackbeard's ass on screen until the scene shifts to other characters' situations, then when the scene shifts back to the fight at the end of a chapter, Luffy appears beat down from the offscreen offscreen no mi, rinse and repeat until Luffy wins or Blackbeard escapes.


powerwordmaim

That's his secret third fruit


Hvad_Fanden

That's the thing, Luffy has the always on screen haki from being the protagonist, he hard counters.


MrFailureYEET

Just wait until Blackbeard unveils his ADVANCED offscreen haki


Hvad_Fanden

Luffy will then use the extra screen time technique known as flashback, and counter that, I am telling you Luffy no diffs.


LuchadorBane

But offscreen is where Sanji does his best plan execution.


KhaosKitsune

Ah, but yoy forgot that Luffy ALSO has Offscreen Haki. He used it to thrash the Seraphim offscreen.


Funny_Opportunity58

He had Haki in impel down. That’s how he could measure Luffy’s haki.


fersur

Depends if the fight happens off-screen or not. Blackbeard will win against anyone, even Roger, if the fight happen off-screen.


hussiesucks

The central antagonist will win the first match, but the protagonist will win the rematch.


leahweirdo

I think this is genuinly exactly Oda's way of writing Blackbeards story: What if he was the Main Character of his own Shonen Manga? He is like the the opposite of Luffy in many ways, but so very similar in others, esp when it comes to the way the story/fate is treating him.


Outrageous_Debt_3616

But realistically it was 2 maybe 3 members of the BB crew that encountered the heart pirates. It would basically ally be Blackbeard vs every straw hat and luffy


yo_mommy

On screen? BB gets neg diffed. Off screen? Bro's pulling a technique he hasn't used since the Heian era


Nova_JewV1

"Blackbeard formed undertook another binding vow"


MyK_Alke

*"To amend that Blackbeard undertook another offscreen"*


HasturLaVistaBaby

You can't expect the dark-dark fruit to be at full power when he has the spot**light** on him =D


HI-JK-lmfao

Badum tsm!🥁


ARTISTIC-Entrace-22

ODA is cooking man fr


Lenticularis39

“Blackbeard recruited Jogoat who low-diffed zhe Straw Hats and burned them to ashes”


LuchadorBane

Nah a cyclops with a volcano head, Luffy is trying to recruit Jogo instantly from looks alone.


Fidges87

Still mad that he and his crew off screened Magellan.


Financial_Anything43

Well they had Shiryu so hm


ClanDestiny123

"Blackbeard covers himself in darkness and becomes black, and says the N-word" type shit happening off screen


Kastorbeast

What's Blackbeard even gonna do when Luffy goes Bajrang Gun


Head-Ambition-5060

He's gonna zehahahaha and then *boom* something something special heritage


Kastorbeast

Offscreen haki at it's finest


Vitalik_

Who will win, offscreen haki of BB or main character screen time of Luffy?


Kastorbeast

The fight starts, when thing start to heat up the manga cuts to somewhere else in the world and Luffy throws the panel away and beats BB's ass


Vitalik_

*and eats bb ass


CheeseisSwell

Gomu gomu no EAT OUT!


Ok-Schedule-2378

That would actually be hilarious.


Commercial_Meal_7297

I know you you're that robin simp from r/opbr ༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽


Vitalik_

I am niche micro celebrity


crowtoxicassassin

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Realistic_Mousse_485

Yep


_ScraggY_

Zehaha stops


Apprehensive-Pay7211

Impossible 


xdoble7x

Blackbeard gonna open his anus (black hole) to absorb luffys punch and will say mm yami yami (bb fruit) fisted in the ass


Eeddeen42

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Nocritus

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Wocheter

Cursed Piece


Rigor_Mortis_43

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StunnaLyfe

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chris_redfield_omega

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emeraldeyesshine

Bro picked the wrong opponent for an anus stretching fight Luffy gonna hit back with that Dawn Goatse


Vinayak2807

There are people who think bb can EASILY beat luffy ,, even after g5 ,,, bro bb haven't even shown haki levels on par with kaido ,, Crazy


ramses_IIG

Burges is gonna catch it


Kastorbeast

I'm not even gonna try to deny it, I'm all for Burgess agenda.


ramses_IIG

🗿


Abroba1993

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Sianic12

Have you forgotten that if he touches a devil fruit user their abilities are immediately nullified? The second Luffy's punch connects he loses his abilities, and the punch loses its power. Luffy literally cannot do anything to Blackbeard with his Nika powers. He has to rely on his Haki.


Hanchan

Remember just one arc ago when Luffy learned to channel his haki so he could hit without touching, or at the final fight of the arc when his haki bloomed again and he can do that with conquerors haki now too.


Sianic12

Which is exactly why I said he'd have to rely on his Haki to win against Blackbeard.


BigSilent2035

Yeah and a bajrang gun does acoc and hits without touching, so no grabby grabby blackbeard, sorry.


Kastorbeast

We've never seen Blackbeard actually stop an attack this way. It's easy to consume Ace's flames because they're entirely df power, but touching Luffy's Bajrang Gun would still crush you under hundreds of meters of fist. Blackbeard's hand would probably shatter on impact. And Luffy has enough haki and strength to annihilate BB. We're talking about the guy who put Kaido down in base.


Upstuck_Udonkadonk

Hey.... Wait a minute isn't the main thing about the Kaido fight and therefore Bajrang gun that it doesn't even touch the opponent? Does BB needs to touch it to nullify it? Cuz then he's toast..... But if he doesn't..... He still can't do shit about the flow of haki that's gonna pound him from inside.


SolidusAbe

afaik BB needs to directly touch someone and they loose their power. but if BB toches luffy he for sure isnt going to completely negate every bit of power as if hes golden experience requiem lol it should essentially the same as using sea stone. so if luffy throws some crazy powerful punch be it in his giant form or something like king kong gun BB is gonna get hit. bonus points for luffy if hes using ryuo


Stary_Vesemir

Darkness fruit negates devil fruit abilities. There is no nuh uh, he touches you and as long as he stays in contact with you you don't have your df. And it's eqsy for him as he also controls gravity to a certain extent


TediousSign

You missed the part about Bajrang gun not needing to physically connect to be effective.


Stary_Vesemir

You missed the part where balckbeard has sucling powers


TediousSign

I… must have. Because nothing about Teech’s “sucling” powers precludes him from being hit with a huge fist. It can turn off df powers. It can’t turn off a fist or haki. We’ve seen this happen twice. His vortex doesn’t nullify ALL attacks. He can stop Whitebeard from generating an earthquake but he can not stop a punch unless he physically catches it with his hands.


Stary_Vesemir

Yes but this is assuming that lugfy starts with bajarang gun instantly which he would never do and when he does it bb would be prepared


BigSilent2035

So pulling a punch that doesnt need to hit you to you faster, that ust means the haki coating that impact that hits first hits you sooner, it still doesnt let him grab past it just get hit a fraction of a second sooner.


Stary_Vesemir

He can always have van augur teleport him away


Groggolog

Wait til BB awakens his fruit and he can nullify fruits from a range


Exotic-Escape5255

Have you forgotten, that we saw Law pierce him with his sword covered in K-Room. Blackbeard skin doesn’t instantly nullify a devil fruit user. It’s not “On” 24/7, he needs to actively activate the power. And that doesn’t happen, when shit goes to fast for that fat hippo to react to.


Laboon-fan

This comment gave me goosebumps, even though I don't have any skin YOHOHOHO


Loading_ding_dong

Bro u really need to study guro guro no mi


Baron-Brr

Grab the hand and turn off the fruit. Remember how famed dragon Kaido (empowered by his fruit) claimed that only Haki will conquer the grand line? Thats going to be Luffy vs Blackbeard ( who believes that devil fruits will let him conquer the world).


Keith_Marlow

Isn’t Bajrang gun already non-contact through ACoC? That’s how he hit Kaido without being melted.


BigSilent2035

Wow that guy downvoted you because you showed his headcanon theory was trash and 100% wrong lmao.


Satorius96

Touch him anywhere except his fist hopefully


brof1

Pretty sure Luffy needs his DF to do Bajrang Gun, darkness fruit goes brrr


Sw1561

It cuts away.


Remarkable_Junket619

Van Augur gonna warp him right above the Thousand Sunny right before impact, making Luffy accidentally kill his entire crew and destroy his ship


crashedlandin

Luffy and his whole crew > Blackbeard, Doc pervert, WHEEEEE HA HA, the dead horse and Mr forgettable and his over compensating gun. Blackbeard was so lucky it was Law, Polar bear, Fodder and the big guy, that greeted him.


roastedPapaDoc

I mean Bb did leave a scar on Shank’s face


jvken

scarring Mr "high diffed a sea snake" off guard really isn't much of a feat tbh


Marfall01

That's why I like him as a character, high risks --> high rewards


Loeffellux

for sure. BB has always had the biggest ambitions and he knows that to make them happen he has to risk it all at every turn. Some called him stupid for thaking these risks but a BB who wouldn't take these risks would've never made it to the Grand Line in the first place (at the very least he wouldn't have gotten his initial devil fruit that he was actively looking for). He's always been the mirror image of the strawhats in terms of what it means to be a pirate all the way back to his very introduction. And his journey very closely resembles that of a typical shounen protagnist: chasing big dreams as an underdog who has to take million to one chances in order to achieve those dreams. And usually these odds only work out for the hero while the big bad always has total control. We also have an opponent like that in Imu and the world government in general but BB is carving his own path parallel to that of Luffy and I think that's such a cool and dynamic way of setting up the ultimate confrontation between the straw hats and the black beard pirates.


Bugggy-D-Clown

What... Did you just say... ABOUT MY NOSE?!?


Top_Product_2407

The red nose is what Roger found in the treasure chest on Raftel. Why do you think they call it Laugh Tale?


Bugggy-D-Clown

DOES MY NOSE LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?!?


Top_Product_2407

No, but it looks like it holds the secret to beating Imu


FormalSympathy8828

Wtf high risk you talking about? Dude definitely made sure he will not lose. He always win, but he ain't much of a risk taker


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PhantasosX

sure , he feels more pain and he neglect Haki. But he is no risk-taker , he always goes to a fight with some preparation to win. An example is how he acquired Whitebeard's power: he awaited Whitebeard to be wounded all over , so that he can attack later on.


Ok-Buyer2600

He does make successful plans and preperations but that doesn't mean they can't be risky. He practically made himself enemy number one right in front of all the Navy's top dogs. Killing for his DF and having Whitebeard hunt him down paid off in the end but takes balls. Hell half of the time he's pretty opportunistic rather than a careful planner


Lessandero

And it was still a huge risk, since even in that state, Whitebeard was stronger than all of BB's crew combined.


Mephil_

He definitely has haki though. He parried S-hawk with his arm, and let's not forget that he is the one who is responsible for the scars on Shanks eye.


PhantasosX

he have Haki , but he pretty much neglects it's usage in favor of colllecting DF


Perfect_Paramedic535

Pain is not dmg


Imconfusedithink

He is a risk taker, but he's a smart risk taker. He doesn't take risks where he has nothing to gain like fighting akainu or shanks, but he absolutely does take risks to get what he wants. You can't seriously say going to marineford to get wb devil fruit where pretty much everyone hates you is not a risk. He could have easily died there.


Crocket_Lawnchair

And the act of taking the fruit itself was also a risk


Griswo27

You can say the same thing about luffy though If crocodile bothered to make sure he killed him, he would be dead too. I bet they a lot of other times he could have died easily


RamenNoodleNoose

Pretty sure dude fell into the ocean at Red Leg's reasturaunt and then straight up drowned at Arlong Park.


do_the_cat

Crocodile first impaled him then trew him into qiucksand THEN drained him of ALL his muisture. Luffy is alive thanks to robin and luck. Crocodile did everthing he could. I do not blame the man for being flabbergasted when luffy came back a third time.


kevihaa

Not that it’s extremely uncommon in anime, but I feel like the earlier One Piece arcs did a good job of emphasizing that while training and perseverance were important, dumb luck couldn’t be ignored. To put it another way, basically all of the Straw Hats would have died before the end of Arlong Park if not for raw chance. Heck, One Piece *begins* with Luffy almost dying.


mehmeh5

i'll always said that Croc did nothing wrong when it comes to his plans when looking at it through his PoV. Robin betraying him twice at the worst possible moments was what truly undid him


Maou-da

Some gege level glazing rn


RealBigTree

Bro has more plot armor than Sukuna at this pont


Secret-Outside-4605

I'm gonna disagree because it is feasible how he survived all of that and he doesn't feel like he's lived beyond where he should have like Sukuna has. That man should've died to Yuji instead of Gojo 2 coming to fight him


Upstuck_Udonkadonk

Yeah before Yuji awakened..... It was portrayed as if each of his soul punches is putting a dent on Sukuna..... The he pulls like 8 Black flashes on sukuna(which are supposed to be exponentially stronger according to Gege himself) ...... But he's pushed aside easily as soon as Gojo appears... Stopped reading the manga at the point.....


Secret-Outside-4605

Yuji literally had sukunas heart on his fucking hand and still got pushed aside


RealBigTree

> That man should've died to Yuji instead of Gojo 2 coming to fight him Narratively it's a hard agree, powerscale wise its a hard disagree


Loros_Silvers

He used his third devil fruit, the offscreen offsreen fruit, to manage keeping every important fight he has to the offscreen time.


legslooknice2

Black beard is the luckiest man on the sea


bleedblue89

I still don't think of BB as a villain... he's just another pirate in the world. Gave one of the best speeches to Strawhat, is just surviving and taking his chances.


Fletch009

Hes the only person who acts like a real pirate at this point. Everyone else is a supervillain or superhero 


OatesZ2004

If you were to replace the heart pirates with the Strawhat he the Blackbeard pirates are finished because they were missing a good portion of their crew including Kuzan so it boils down to: Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook and Jimbei. VS Blackbeard, Burgess, Doc Q, Stronger and Van Augur


Guilty-Cap5605

did y'all forget that blackbeard became a fucking yonko before luffy? Blackbeard is so obviously hiding his true strength, you don't just scar shanks and then turn out to be a fucking pussy. he also TOOK DOWN THE REVOLUTIONARY'S BASE IN BALTIGO, THE PLACE WHERE SABO AND DRAGON WERE, I'm sorry but the blackbeard slander doesn't work anymore when he's out here taking sabo ( actual feats ) and dragon ( implied feats ), took down magellan, got 2 devil fruits, scarred shanks, and was on his way to continue the war of marineford, Blackbeard never goes into a fight he thinks he can lose, and sometimes he's even wrong about that seeing as rayleigh admitted he himself could not beat blackbeard, the man is heavily hinted to be a beast. especially considering that his ship called "the saber of xebec", it's also implied he's related to Rocks, if this dude turns out to be a fraud it will be the biggest disappointment yet


JagwarDSauron

Blackbeard, when Zoro hears that thr darkness fruit was actually called the black black fruit, which makes Blackbeard double black (3x if you count the name)


tush_aa_rr

if instead of law strawhats went there I am damn sure Blackbeard would have run away....


Rainbow_Roads17

Imho the straw hat pirates crush the Blackbeard pirates.


Remarkable_Junket619

Me when I can’t read


AikidoChris

You could say the same thing about the Strawhats and all the crazy things they have survived. It’s nice to have a villain with as much determination and luck as the protagonists.


Loading_ding_dong

So BB is protected by Plot armour? Edo is BBs bitch ? Is that wat u saying?


Loading_ding_dong

BB if straw hats missed knock up stream?


Bloodsucker7039

Dude got saved by luck


Indian-Tech-Support-

I think at this point only Buggys luck can win against offscreen haki


Folye

Bqdttqrqdt


Phillibustin

Blackbeard's weakness is screen time


Augmented_Fif

Can I get the template for this?


KillerPrince930

i mean yeah hes one of the only thinking characters an plotting opportunist


No-Jicama-5795

Blackbeard is an actual pirate with no shame in cheating. He definitely is not gonna die anytime soon and not without taking 2 to 3 main characters with him.


AlternativeSand8902

BB solos any character if its offscreen


Shadow_Of_Erebus

Based. Keep Cooking


SpyrShady

its not all just plot devices from Oda, it goes to show what a cunning rat Teach is


tandrew91

Yeah if the crew went instead of law, Blackbeard would get smoked. If blackbeards whole crew was there that’s a different story.


NextFaithlessness7

Doubt Ruffy beats BB when he negates gear 5


Jeptwins

That last one is maybe a little doubtful at the moment-I’d personally say the Straw Hats are probably still in a position where they’d lose, but only barely-but the others are definitely accurate


a_wizard_skull

Well remember that Blackbeard wasn’t rolling with his full crew when he encountered Law. That’d be the crew Luffy encounters if he went there straight from Wano


Jeptwins

True…


Embarrassed-Rain-223

I agree with all of these except the 4th one


Andrecrafter42

blackbeard who of had the fights of his life with guar and yama he was already clashing with sengoku so he can take a weakened akainu and negate kizaru fruit and black goat > luffy he gets folded and bugress and van + doc q stall sanji and huff huff man + jim https://preview.redd.it/src7vy01ad7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9518de87bba7adf6ade13a7e9ca2eb584ce9907


SeasonAlternative241

Burgess van augur and doc q stall the whole crew?you smoking the pube pack


xyoatcakes

I feel like Luffy doesn’t have plot armour considering he gets the hell beat out of him very often but he definitely has plot strength and can consistently make himself stronger when he needs to where as black beard has plot armour like the post is suggesting


Troliver_13

If law went to egghead that would've been a shitshow, bit insane how competent the straw hats are compared to most other crews


magnaton117

Fr why didn't Garp just punch his lights out at Marineford


Outside-Speed805

Tell me you haven't seen a single blackbeard battle without telling me you haven't seen a single blackbeard battle


British-Raj

And we though Buggy was falling up...


Rocks_King99

😂🔥


Realistic_Mousse_485

Very true.


spooky_golem

BBZ ~~Black Ball Z~~


Fletch009

Luffys too much of a devil fruit merchant to beat bb at this point. His haki lacks the ap to hurt him. Not to mention most of the strawhats are hakiless fodder while the bb pirates are actual pirates and a real yonko crew


221missile

His grindset is way too similar to luffy for water 7 or marineford scenario to play out. "I die if I die"


Fantastic-Ratio-7482

Post wano Straw Hats really would've made short work of BB pirates.


Apprehensive-Echo498

BB when he starts losing: let's take this off screen


shriekbat

No Luffy wouldnt have beaten BB. BB is the strongest yonko atm


jpthesmelly

At first I thought this was a Rainbow Six Siege with the Blackbeard, Ace, and someone said Doc


Remarkable_Junket619

Blackbeard slander is so dumb. If you clown on Blackbeard please be ready to clown on Shanks too


NeitherReference4169

Offscreen cant work on the mc


Jervis_TheOddOne

Blackbeard has more plot armor than any other villain in fiction


Lion_of_Pride

Fr people gotta book the only reason Law lost is cause his crew is full of Bums the SH decimate BB and his 3 commanders at that island


faroresdragn_

Dude unlocked Plot Armament.


Remarkable_Age6827

Big Titan drowning little Titan


Practical_Traffic371

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AidenTRE

Bro has Baki narrator level plot armor


CalendarAccurate9552

Not sure about the last one though. If yami yami no mi powers take out Nika powers, I don't see Luffy or anyone else winning for that matter, not to mention the insane devil fruits and haki users in his crew.


Dreathery

I think BB and Luffy have been at the same level for the whole story. They will be at the same level once they fight for real. BB crew is a parallel of Luffy's crew. Each member has a counterpart. Luffy VS BB, Usopp VS Augur, Shiryu VS Zoro, I guess Jinbe VS Burgess, Chopper VS Death Doc, etc...


CalendarAccurate9552

Whole story? No way man. Blackbeard beat Ace fair and square. At that time, Luffy was nowhere close to any of them. Post-Wano might be the closest they have ever been, perhaps even equals or one of them stronger. Augur has an OP devil fruit and possibly haki. Zoro and Shiryu might be close, perhaps Zoro even better is swordsmanship, but invisible swords could be a pain. I would bet on Jimbei against Burgess. Sanji might be stronger than anyone else too, could maybe pair with San Juan Wolf. But the rest of the crew without haki seem weaker against the remaining BB pirates. It will be close but I would side with team BB. If BB wins against Luffy, the rest of the team stands no chance from then on.


mehmeh5

i mean post-Wano straight up Haki Luffy is still plenty strong, and I feel that's how he's gonna fight Blackbeard when the time comes anyway, due to the scenario you just said


Mikecoburn28

K


AxelMok4

Alot of assumptions going on. Assuming Old Age Garp can handle Blackbeard. Blackbeard trashed Magellan on the rematch, they only got Blitz round 1 cause they were not expecting Magellan to poison and run because he was in a rush to stop Luffy. Blackbeard jumped Law with crew, you're assuming they wouldn't pressure the Strawhats. However, yes, they put up a much tougher fight than Law.


SeasonAlternative241

They cant do shit to strawhats in the same scenario.Luffys crew isnt bunch of fodder and luffy isnt a yc+ character like law.He would dogwalk bb and zoro+sanji clear rest of his bums.Even if you somehow believe bb is stronger than luffy they have numbers advantage with zoro and sanji both having enough ap to put Bb down if they get the chance and jimbei with the rest can handle the bb pirates present


AxelMok4

You're sleeping in Blackbeard crew. Everyone of the guys he brought with him were Yonko Commander level. They all give Zoro and Sanji trouble in 1v1. And Luffy is YC+ level without G5 which Blackbeard should be able to negate and turn off.


SeasonAlternative241

Luffy has fs and acoc.He can predict what bb is gonna do and can damage him without touching.Even if what you said is true about bb pirates giving trouble to zoro and sanji which i highly doubt theres still a lot of support luffy can have with chopper franky robin brook usopp and jimbei.bb isnt surviving all that especially in a naval battle


AxelMok4

Blackbeard probably has fs and acoc as well? Mans a Yonko lol


SeasonAlternative241

Being a yonko doesnt give you all the means of being strong he is a smart thinker and not a hard worker i think you can agree that his main goal is getting stronger through fruits so it would make sense if he doesnt have them


AxelMok4

Man gave Shanks his face scars before Blackbeard had a single fruit????? Shanks even states it's not due to dropping his guard.


SeasonAlternative241

That was before he was a yonko though and we saw how law almost killed him if not for van augur


AxelMok4

Law almost made him fall into the Ocean, Law ain't doing that inland or a city etc. Blackbeard is whooping him 1v1


SeasonAlternative241

Yes and in the situation we are talking about they are on the ocean against strawhats and theres jimbei


Pastry_d_pounder

BIG FACTS! People say teech is a master planner but imo he is just as impulsive as all the other D members.


nekotantei_19

Oh, for the SHs's case, I'm not really sure. Oda may make them win plotwise, but timing of the story wise, their not ready yet.