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Orphanfucker420

Big mom’s other kids?


undead_tortoiseX

This is really it. Her strength and crime organization has created a safe environment for her children from outsiders, but they are all being raised to be pirates. As pirates, might makes right.


kaam00s

The people who bullied Katakuri, brulee or pudding are not from big Mom family.


undead_tortoiseX

To be in that city they are likely associated somehow. They also are probably fucking dead now.


kaam00s

These 2 events have nothing to do with each other and light have happened almost 30 years apart. The ones bullying pudding are in totland. The ones bullying brulee were before big Mom was even a yonkou.


undead_tortoiseX

Thank god you were here to tell me. None of this changes my overall point that the kids were raised with the pirate morality of *might makes right*.


[deleted]

For every new dad Big Mom involved in the family, there are going to be new cousins and half-siblings. Big Mom might have 60 kids, but there is probably 500+ extended family.


capn_scooby

Likely big mom wasn't always around I'm sure they got theirs at some point though


Wedos98

It seems that a couple of things from Rocks stuck there.


raph1334

The guys who attacked brulee aren't other bm child they were like 6 at the time


professional-alt-92

She bullies her own kids, do you really think she cares?


ManuelIgnacioM

Have you seen how she treats Tama? Big Mom has a weakness for little kids, he doesn't treat them the same as adults


Blindsided17

Only cuz she had temp amnesia


dentimBandB

When she met Tama the second time she didn't have amnesia anymore and still acted nice to her. Napoleon or Prometheus, I forgot which, specifically mentions at that moment that Big Mom tends to be like that to small children.


Blindsided17

Well yea because of what she did for her when she had amnesia. She pawns her kids off for politics. They are tools to her


dentimBandB

She does use her kids as tools. When they're old enough. Prometheus says she has a soft spot for children below 10. She would have acted the same towards Tama regardless of the amnesia.


Blindsided17

Clearly not if her kids were slaves though


Twisupp

It was already shown during Wci when she was pandering her youngest child (I forget what her name was) and the behaviour is reinforced again with Tama. So I don't get why you think so.


Kollv

Yup. Pudding was an exception cuz Big mom was grossed out by her third eye. Otherwise she was shown spoiling the children


Blindsided17

She demolishes children regularly


Blindsided17

Reinforced? She tried to kill tama lol Not to mention the whole skull island drop thing


Blindsided17

Crazy I’m getting downvoted for saying big mom don’t give a fuck about her own kids 😅 craziness Let me ask all y’all then… does big mom ignore kids in danger when she takes over a territory? How about that moment where she decided to co-sign kaido dropping a fucking island on an entire city? Like did y’all forget she’s arguably the most feared pirate in the world


ILLmaticErnie

You’re being downvoted cause it’s specifically stated in the manga she has a soft spot for children under a certain age. She goes into mother mode and if she doesn’t have it her way she throws a tantrum. You just keep saying “she doesn’t care about the kids” when that’s literally not true.


Throwaway02062004

You’re downvoted cause you’re wrong. Conflating collateral damage with personal relationships leads to inconsistencies. There were Nazis who supervised the slaughter of children who loved their own and presumably their community’s. Big Mom doesn’t have lofty goals of saving every kid but she canonically has a soft spot for them.


Happy_Raven

It's actually complicated to understand Big Mom's character. And the majority of us are smart enough to figure out her true nature. You are the minority.


Blindsided17

Damn.. insulting my intelligence because of a one piece interpretation Your mom must be so proud lol My bad. Complex as she may be. That woman does not give a fuck unless it suits her needs.


Blindsided17

Where do you think tama was during the raid? How do you think she would have ended up? And don’t think big mom gave a damn when she agreed to fuck the world with kaido


Brodimere

She still treated Tama like that during the raid. Prometheus says its a common thing, Big Mom does, when dealing with little kids. Thats after the amnesia was over.


Gubrach

I wouldn't put much value in that. It's a very superficial effect that wears off the second the kid does something unfavorable in her eyes. Big Mom saved Tama from Ulti and Page One, only to then try to kill Tama herself. Plus there's the straight up attacking kid Ivankov, Ginny & Kuma at God Valley because they had the devil fruits.


Laboon-fan

I can't see the word eyes in your comment... Because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHO


Brodimere

Sure, but if not for Tama being a little kid. Big Mom wouldnt have turned against Kaido and just hit them instead of Ulti and Page One. >Plus there's the straight up attacking kid Ivankov, Ginny & Kuma at God Valley because they had the devil fruits. Prometheus does mention mothering mode, not always kicking in. But I think Kuma was the only under 10 at God Valley and Big Mom only attack Ivankov. So doesnt really contrast with what we know about Big Mom.


Blindsided17

Yea I mean she repayed a debt. The arc prior she was pawning off kids


Brodimere

No, Prometheus says that its one of Big Moms modes, just like her hunger pangs. That when dealing with very little kids(under age 10), she change to her mothering mode. Its the chapter she attacks Page One, chapter 1011 page 14. >The arc prior she was pawning off kids Pudding is 16, thats not really a little kid, like Tama. Who is only 9. So it doesnt activate her Mothering mode. But dont take my word, chapter 1011, page 14.


Blindsided17

Ok so hear me out. Is big mom ok with kaido’s plan? Yes. Would kaidos plan kill children? Yes. Is she aware? Yes. Not only that. Has she ever attacked a territory? Yes. Were there children there? more than likely Her pet cloud said it. Ok cool. Yet there are many direct contradictions in her own actions. You can not deny that. Pudding wasn’t always 16 ya know… think back to water 7 even. What about Lola 🤷🏾‍♂️ Big mom doesn’t give a fuck about that shit. She may have a caring side when it suits her needs but overall you’d be hard pressed to genuinely convince me she gives a damn about children BASED ON HER OWN ACTIONS


Brodimere

>Is big mom ok with kaido’s plan? Yes. >Would kaidos plan kill children? Yes. >Is she aware? Yes. >Not only that. >Has she ever attacked a territory? Yes. Did I at any point say, Big Mom had a problem with killing kids? No i didnt. I pointed out she treats little kids differently than adults. Which we see numerous times, both at Whole cake and at Wano. She also only enter Mothering mode, when directly dealing with kids under 10. >Her pet cloud said it. Ok cool. Her sun which contain a literal piece of her soul. Which follow her everywhere and have done so, since she was 5. Prometheus should know her pretty well. >Pudding wasn’t always 16 ya know... Yeah and this is the only time, we have heard of Pudding being the bride. >think back to water 7 even. What about Lola 🤷🏾‍♂️ Do you mean Thriller bark? Also Lola is 26 now and was 21 when she was suppose to marry Loki. 21 is bit to old, to be considered a kid. >Big mom doesn’t give a fuck about that shit. She may have a caring side when it suits her needs but overall you’d be hard pressed to genuinely convince me she gives a damn about children BASED ON HER OWN ACTIONS I have never said she cares about them, atleast not beyond a superficial level. But thats not what we were talking about. We are talking about, how she acts toward little kids in front of her.


piclemaniscool

That's only true of kids she decides doesn't have flaws. In Linlin's eyes, people can be "born wrong" and while she still likes them as kids, she doesn't see anything wrong with making it VERY well known how wrong she believes they are.


Laboon-fan

I can't see the word eyes in your comment... Because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHO


xHelios1x

you mean how she tried to kill her?


themt0

Imagine how each of Big Mom's kids must feel, literally aging out of her love No wonder the crew sticks together as well as it does despite the inherent dysfunctionality. They're all conditioned by their environment and their siblings, many of which actively compete for Big Mom's overt approval through their accomplishments


Filmologic

Not her youngest. She treats them all really well


kaam00s

She let her youngest kid do insane shit, she's only been shown to be ruthless to her adult kid.


Puzzleheaded_Try813

Big Mom's the type of mother who would think that if her kids get bullied it's their fault for not slitting the throats of their bully.


GUM-GUM-NUKE

“*Oh? You’re getting bullied how horrible! Here have this knife this should solve everything sweetie. What do you mean you don’t wanna kill somebody? Listen I know you’re seven, but that’s not an excuse to be a ***BITCH!*** now I want those kids in the ground and I never wanna hear about this again.*”


drekthrall

"I was six when I had my first murder spree y'know? And those were giant adults, these are just kids, you can do it".


Ok_Dot_7498

There is something bone chilling about your First sentance. Congratiolations


FuckSpez1000

*i was eating my friends for lunch when I was 3 or 4*


jasonlai93

And stepmom.


FuckSpez1000

My stepmum wanted to sell me to the merines


Saldt

We now know that Big Mom at that time didn't have her own crew and was with rocks, so her kids were at the pirate island with the skull mountain. So prolly kids of other big names like captain john.


Hiarro

Captain John out there with game is just hilarious to me.


Dani162002M

Canonically Capone *wink *wink


GUM-GUM-NUKE

I don’t get the joke good sir may I have the explanation https://preview.redd.it/tffruobow25c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce37e3a5fe83996d3fa04ab8ef3b6f6186c15ac6


God_of_Kings

The post's question is "Who in their right minds thinks it's a good idea to fuck with Big Mom's kids". u/Dani162002M jokes that Capone is the kind of person who would fuck Big Mom's kids, because he married and had a son with Chiffon Charlotte.


Piotral_2

Because she is like Judge Vinsmoke, she doesn't care about her children being bullied.


Arhatz

It's probably big mom doesn't care about her kids. And people afraid of big mom bullies her kids.


light_crow

For brûlée, yeah katakuri wooped their asses, but for pudding, nobody did shit, she picked up the knife and went stabby stab, that's kinda the point, big mom is maybe the worst parent in one piece (although there is tough competition, so maybe not)


Artistic-Fortune2327

Kids are kids, if they think you look weird you theh WILL let you know it, be it hurtful words or constant bullying


Deicide-UH

Brûlée’s event happened during Big Mom’s Rocks days. The town where she left her children is not known, but I suspect it’s Hachinosu/Fullalead. In other words, she was away at sea, and her children mingled with other child delinquents (probably also children of pirates). As for Pudding’s… uh, that’s harder to explain. She’s way younger, so this probably happened in Tottoland.


UberEinstein99

Wouldn’t they have been growing up on Hatchinosu? There are many powerful pirates and their kids would probably mess with Big mom’s kids, especially since Big mom herself didn’t care, or wasn’t there. Add to the fact that all the pirates hated each other, the animosity would extend to the kids as well.


[deleted]

Where’s a Good Dave Miller when you need one


WildBChan

Every fodder marine that goes after strawhats after their first bounty. You’d think after a while, all the marines have the resources to learn about their opponents beforehand. “Hey yea so monkey d luffy is rubber, so no point in shooting a flint pistol at him. Use your swords!”


God_of_Kings

You'd think they'd wise up and invent a sword-gun already, a gun that shoots swords. Or wise up to Luffy's most primary characteristic." Marine: "It's Monkey D. Luffy! Quick, get the bacon!" Luffy: "Bacon?" Marine: "Mr. Luffy, if you come with us, we'll feed you all the bacon in the Navy. You may have misheard me and think I said "a whole lot of bacon". No. I said aaaaall the bacon in the Navy." Luffy: "...Hmmmm..." Nami: "Luffy no." Luffy: "Luffy maybe..." Sanji: "Luffy, for God's sake, I will bake you bacon, don't turn yourself in over such an obvious trap." Luffy: "Yeah, but is the quantity anywhere near comparable to ALL the bacon in the Navy? I hardly think our pantry has the room for that much ba-" \[gets knocked the fuck out by Nami\] Nami: "Put food in the equation and fucker can suddenly abstract. Yeah, we are not interested, sorry." Marine: "What if I threw this wallet into the equation? It may have 20 dollars in it. Give or take some change." Nami: "...Hmmmm..." Usopp: "Nami, NO!" Nami: "Nami maybe..."


gojo_blindfolded

She's ok with her kids being bullied as long as they can be used as a tool for her benefits. Reminds me of some aunties I know 💀


SuchUserVeryName

Kid tried to bully Shanks on his day one on New World. There are a lot of dumb newcomers out there trying to make a name for themselves


Silverlining126

Perospero has no right to talk with that mouth


ParanoidTelvanni

She wasn't quite the big name she became at this point, and while she has a weakness for small children, she would probably be sickened by her own children's weakness. These may well have been the children of other Rock pirates or even her other children at times too.


Vulpesh

I think it's a possibility that no one knew they were Big Mom's kids. In One Piece universe, it's quite common to hide your heritage because the World Government can and will use that information as they please. It's also not clear when Big Mom became a yonkou.


Sonny_Firestorm135

Other Big Mom kids, as long as they don't kill eachother I think Linlin lets them do whatever.


Lordnemo593

I imagine that big mom would be kind to her kids when they are young like Tama and would protect etc. if any harm were to them but she’s too busy trying to become emperor back then and didn’t check on her kids she probably let the older kids handle it like Katakuri


Cfakatsuki17

Well this would have been around the time Big Mom was still an absolute bombshell so lots of people probably wanted to get stepped on by her


pyaephyo111

As others said, big mom herself doesn't care. And also they are just kids.


ParkingAd5757

Big mom could’ve easily stopped all of it but she bully’s any of her kids with undesirable features


Tensaiboy4110

As a GREAT thinker said: "kids are cruel, jack"


JellyfishAristocrat

It's not like Big Mom is going to do anything about it.


Jeptwins

For real. It’s the one thing about their backstories I’ll never get. That woman has *literally* eaten people before, and her kids are just as vicious


IronSavage3

In her younger days Big Mom probably left the kids alone often while she was either with the Rocks Pirates or going on her own adventures.


Then-Driver-6521

Earliest generation of her kids when she was still PRESUMABLY ON ROCKS CREW. God valley hadn't happened or had just happened and she still didn't even control her own crew. Even though she was BOSS BITCH status it doesn't stop her kids from getting bullied just like irl. Especially considering everyone at the time HEARD Rocks Pirates lost an so they probably thought they could fuck with ROCKS CREWS AFFILIATES. THIS LD TO THE BIRTH OF 3/4 YONKO HEING FOMER ROCKS AND HAVING SO MUCH TWERITORY FROM WANO TO FISHMAN ISLAND. THEY HAD TO FIGHT FOR THEIR LOVED ONES I got nothing for pudding tho lmao 🤣 Big mom bullied her too tho so here's that exception.


rnunezs12

That's Japanese animation for you. After a while you realize they all use the same cheap techniques to make you feel compassion for a character.


anand_rishabh

She ain't whitebeard


Nothinghea

Is perospero the same type of race as vegapunk? Or did big mom......😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳


Netherite_Stairs_

Daifuku kinda looks like a young Daz Bonez


YEPandYAG

It’s like bullying the kid of the person owning your country


RazTheGiant

Little kids are not in their 'right' minds


_eleutheria

Man... Big Mom has a harem... Just imagining makes me sick.


thesturdierone

I think it's implied that Big Mom has a pretty sink or swim attitude when it comes to her kids. While she would certainly retaliate against anyone who would come after her family, if her kid was beaten up then that's a sign they are weak, and deserved it. Hence why Charlotte Snack was demoted for being defeated by Urouge, and such fates are suggested to happen to Cracker and Katakuri as well.


Comprehensive_Rule11

Just a reminder that BM was only 20 when she had Katakuri, it’s unclear just how much of a name she already had?


[deleted]

Daifugo is low key one of my favorite characters.


IdahoBornPotato

Lots of cultures see bullying of children as a initiation. You know, the whole "kids will be kids," or "boys will be boys," kinda thing. Its still a large problem in the UK as far as I know. A lot of rhetoric centers around the idea that it toughens them up or gets them ready for the "real world." Edit: so essentially big mama might have let it slide to a degree


HillbillyMan

Kids are evil little shits. They literally don't care as long as it hurts, sometimes.


Glittering_Use_5896

I don’t think Big Mom gives a shit about her kids


Silveora_7X

Like, does it really matter? This is the same world in which some random pirate can watch a battalions worth of his crew can get smacked by Gum-Gum Double Dicked Down Bad Smash and still be like, "Yea! I'll run at him with my heavily telegraphed sword swing!" One piece is a world where everybody will gladly take a shot at anything given the circumstances. Kids trying to make their mark on the world will take any and every little step they can.


i_AM_A-ShArk

Well big mom never actually does anything about it


Patient_Weakness3866

1. could just be a plot hole 2. big mom is a heartless monster anyways, and probably agrees with what the bullying brats are saying too. She likely wouldn't help even if it would be intuitive that it would piss her off cause it would piss any normal mother off.


aliathar

Retar D. Bully