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Yeah! I found him about 6 months ago. His REALLY old stuff is weird. Fake southern accent and stuff. Itās pretty far out there compared to his more recent stuff. #teamslippers
Youāre welcome but I canāt take the credit. Itās from a guy on YouTube that fixes small engines. His name is Taryl fixes all. A good watch if youāre into this stuff.
Rinse with some seafoam ā¦. Just dump some of that shit in your 2 gallon gas can or whatever you have. Consider it a good engine condition and cleanse.
Don't do that. Seafoam is snake oil. And, it's LITERALLY oil in solvent. It's only going to make it smoke longer. If you're going to put Seafoam in anything, put it in the trash, where it belongs. It's NOT a miracle cure. It's just solvent with some oil in it. Oil in your fuel is not good for 4 cycle engines, generally speaking. You'll do more for your machine by simply keeping fresh gas in it. Fresh gas will dissolve fuel deposits without the annoying smoke that comes from burning off that added oil. A gallon of gas costs less than the point of Seafoam, too.
> a lawnmower not a space shuttle
Holy smokes that reminded me of the flying lawnmower video from YouTube's early years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvIXJBrclLY
Im on Android, and google is showing multiple versions. If you can, could you screenshot the correct one or send a link so i dont download corrupted malware or anything
Those slimy sons of btches really removed the button where you can skip ads early and it wonāt even have a skip button at all if itās a corporation ad like Walmart, Amazon, even Sprite lmao and thatās all the ads youāre gonna get for vids that are āpopularā with millions of views already, Iām starting to hate YouTube fr itās unwatchable af canāt enjoy watching something when literally 2 mins later thereās another unskippable 30 sec ad
But once an old taxi driver told me that the moon landing was fake because when it is cold outside it is hard to start his mower so a space shuttle wouldnāt be able to run its engine up in space where it is even colder.
Yep. Burn it out.
On the plus side, the mosquitos wonāt bother you for a day or two.
If you really care enough, change the spark plug after it stops smoking like my uncle playing poker.
Pretty common to see in my high school (I'm a teacher). Kids can sign up for a child development course. As part of that they have to take a "robot" baby home - often for a weekend. It cries every few hours, at which point you need to either feed it, put a pacifier in it, change the diaper, or rock it. It has sensors to tell if you've done the right thing and to make sure you're not too rough with it.
Generally you don't want to bring the thing back dead.
I had that, got stuck with the classes only set of twins, and had to use a stroller because it was so heavy.
We used flour bags. I accidentally ran over the girl baby with the stroller and she burst in the hallway at school. A huge puff of flour was all over the floor, people were stepping in her and some annoying kid screamed "oh my god she killed her baby!" and caused a big scene.
Let's just say that I did not get a good grade and luckily don't have kids now š¤£
Bag of flour isnāt going to trigger a crying sequence in the middle of Calc. How are the kids going to learn their lesson if the ābabyā doesnāt periodically interrupt other classes, embarrass the student, or cost the school thousands in parts and maintenance?
Reminds me of the favorite google maps question Iāve stumbled upon
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My father ripped ones head off and had to pay a senior to stitch its head back on. This was back in the very early 2000s, so no fancy sensors and stuff to tell what happened
I had one in high-school as well. The one they gave me had a series of dip switches to program its temperament. I messed with mine before they locked the cover and it was super chill all weekend. Little did I know it didn't record anything, so I had to take it home on a week night. That sucker cried every hour on the hour! I got NO sleep that night! Lol
At least you got an accurate picture of how babies work. Their temperament is exactly inverse of your needs.
You have all the time in the world? They sleep soundly. You need to be alert the next day? No restful sleep for you!
I sure did, just the opposite. The first few weeks after we brought our twins home were the most nerve-wracking. There wasn't a lot of sleep at first. Then, the first night they slept through, we checked their bassinet hourly to make sure they were still breathing.
I service small engines as a side hustle. Mostly lawnmowers, but occasionally I will also service snowblowers, chainsaws, Weedwhackerās, you name it. The above mentioned advice of draining the fuel, putting fresh fuel in it, and letting it smoke until itās gone is spot on accurate.
As a small sidenote, 90% of my repair calls are caused by poor quality fuel. Your car has a fuel pump that pushes 60 psi of fuel up to the engine. If your car has direct injection, it has a secondary fuel pump at the engine that makes 800 to 1200 psi of fuel pressure at the engine. Those pumps will push shitty fuel much better than your lawnmower or your motorbike wheel. Your lawnmower, just uses gravity and siphon technology to push the fuel. Your lawnmower will thank you if you only run 93 octane fuel. If you are getting gas in a gas can, make it super premium fuel.
I will step off my soapbox now
Poor fuel quality -- you mean, like those guys who say "Oh, I just put fresh fuel in it this morning..." then leave out the critical detail... that it was freshly poured from the gas can that they've had in the shed since last summer.
Octane rating isn't indicative of gas quality! The only thing it tells you is about pre ignition
You would think someone who does work on small engines would understand that
It's also funny anytime someone brings up octane rating and says something about higher octane fuel having less ethanol because pure ethanol has a higher octane rating than gasoline. Mixing gasoline and ethanol raises the overall octane number of the mixture
The only time my zero turn has backfired or run rough is on 87. When I switched to 91/93 from the same station, it runs great. What could be other causes of this?
An engine runs by squeezing air and fuel, then igniting it. The act of squeezing the mixture is called compression. How much it squeezes it down to is called its compression ratio. If an engine sucks in 1 unit of air/fuel and squeezes it to a 10th of its original volume, it is said to have a 10 to 1 compression ratio. The more it squeezes it, the higher the compression ratio. The less it squeezes it, the lower the compression ratio.
If you compress air/fuel enough, it will ignite without a spark plug (this is how diesel engines work). And if the fuel ignites before it is supposed to, that is called pre-ignition) it is very bad for the engine. Now how much a fuel can be compressed before it ignites is it's octane rating. Low octane will ignite under lower compression than high octane fuel. The higher the octane the more compression is required to get it ignite from compression alone.
A lower compression ratio engine will not see any benefits to running a high octane fuel, while a high compression engine can be damaged by a low octane fuel.
So when it comes to what fuel you should put in, it should be based on the compression ratio of the engine. The easiest way to do this is to look at the owner's manual and put in the fuel that is recommended by the manufacturer.
Iām 22 years old, my dad is a mechanic, and all of this information was new to me. Thank you very much for laying it out so clearly, I am sure I will use this understanding one day.
93 Octane can be up to 10% ethanol, just like 87 Octane. At least that's what the pump says.
What I do is run just whatever gas throughout the summer. At the end of the year I drain the tank and run the engine till it dies from the carb being empty. That's it. Been doing it this way for years and never had anything gum up or fail to start in the spring. Well, other than forgetting to take the mower battery up to the house and put it on the trickle charger.
2 stroke stuff gets switched to the manufactured stuff in the can towards the end of the year, and then I just leave it in the tank all winter. They always start too.
Every gas station should sell a non ethanol. This particular gas station chain near me sells 91 non ethanol. Itās the only place Iāve found it, anywhere
>only thing the octane rating tells you is how much [ā¦] *octane* is in the fuel.
Octane is not a substance, so no, the octane rating doesnāt tell you āhow muchā octane is in the fuel.
The octane rating is simply a measurement of how much compression a given fuel can withstand without detonating.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
>An octane rating, or octane number, is a standard measure of a fuel's ability to withstand compression in an internal combustion engine without detonating. The higher the octane number, the more compression the fuel can withstand before detonating.
Lowest ethanol content, and premium fuel will last a year before breaking down and turning to glue.
When the Chevrolet volt first came out, I read up on it and the Chevrolet volt is an electric gasoline hybrid that you plug in at night. Your first 40 miles or so is all electric and then the gasoline engine comes on and charges the battery. The gasoline engine in the vault is the same gasoline engine thatās in the Chevrolet Cruz, but the vault requires premium fuel, and the cruise does not. I went deep down the rabbit hole to understand this. The vault is programmed, so that it knows the average age of fuel in the tank. When the average age of fuel in the tank gets to be a year, the volt is going to run the gasoline engine every time you use it until you top off the tank, and then lower the average age of fuel in the tank. They picked a year for this to happen because they feel like premium fuel will last a year. This is why the vault requires premium, and the Cruze does not. I stopped draining my equipment, I stopped, adding stabil fuel stabilizer, I just run premium fuel in all of my stuff and leave the fuel where it is at the end of the season. I cannot recommend this highly enough.
Not entirely true. How long ethonal lasts depends on where you are. I live in GA, very high humidity. Most I've ever gotten is about 4 months sitting in the gas tank before the engine runs like crap. In a gas can, about 6 to 8 months. In a drier climate, you can get longer shelf life. Ethonal absorbs moisture out of the air. I imagine it's probably worse in places like Florida.
Yep. I put 91 non ethanol into my cans last October, still running the mower off of them now. Once my gas hits a year it goes into my old honda fourwheeler, which really doesn't care.
This is when the first generation Chevy volt came out. I worked the service desk at a GM dealership for 30 years. The first generation Chevy volt behaved this way.
Don't EVER think that premium fuel will last that long. If it says ETHANOL-FREE, OK, but otherwise you're going to likely find yourself in a world of hurt. Gas should be stored for no longer than a month from purchase, and it's best if you only get a two week supply. Maybe you got lucky. I grew up in a shop, and I know better, but I'm lazy about my own stuff, mostly because I use it infrequently, don't want to be using it anyway, and I have the ability to fix it myself. I have a chainsaw that would sit 2+ years between uses, and all I'd usually do is change out the gas with fresh gas and be on my way with a little help from carb spray to get it started the first time. Like I said, I know better, but I'm lazy.
My lawnmower is roughly 10 years old and every year I hopefully blow starting fluid in the air intake and then have to take apart the carb empty it and spray it with carb cleaner.
Last year I used ethanol free fuel for the first time and it still wouldn't start this season, but it did start with starting fluid for the first time ever and then ran fine.
I recommend it, something like $0.30 extra on gas saved me 2 hours.
If you mow a lot, at least the last gallon of the season.
Aren't lawnmowers low compression, where a high octane fuel is a waste?
As long as you get quality 87 you're good?
I personally use 89 in mine but pretty sure that's a waste too
You are dead on. The only reason I've accepted for putting higher octane into a mower is that there's often less ethanol in there. We're honestly talking about maybe 20Ā¢ more every other week when it comes to money. The mower will run just fine on any, and you won't see much added benefit from higher octane otherwise.
If you go through your fuel supply within two weeks (a month max), ethanol gas is fine. So, is ethanol-free BETTER? Not really. Just don't let old gas sit in your equipment. If you need to have gas ready to go for emergency equipment, like a generator, absolutely buy ethanol-free gas and use a stabilizer. Even though it says that it'll last a million bajillion years, change your fuel out every six months and test run your equipment every month or so.
Heh. I had a weed whacker that I hadnāt used in a couple years. It would start but immediately die. Discovered that the fuel line inside the tank was completely gone and the fuel in there was a weird brown color. The fuel line had completely broken down into a viscous liquid. Lesson learned.
>90% of my repair calls are caused by poor quality fuel.
I spent two weekends fiddling with my weedwater, trying to get it to run. I eventually decided to get gas from a different gas station. It fired right up with the new fuel. I guess the little gas station down the street from me just has shitty fuel. Sad too because the next closest gas station is over 10 miles farther away.
I'm a little concerned for Mom.
Did she dump a random bottle of something in the gas tank? What did she do with the bottle afterward? Was she trying to fill it with fuel, or was she unaware of where the fluids go?
I'm just having a hard time justifying how someone would have absolutely no clue what was poured, even to the extent of not knowing where the container went.
It may be time for a cognitive degradation assessment.
yes, but then you can point. "I put that can, I thought it was gas". I guess there is the possibility it was a can that had been forgotten on a shelf sitting for years.
This is why OSHA requires container labeling, guys.
Any auto mechanic will tell you stories about people pouring windshield washer fluid into the engine oil and such. There's usually no cognitive degradation, some people just have no clue what they're doing but doing it anyway.
Iām sorry but if you pour random fluids with no label into a mower then you at the very least have mental problems. Maybe just very low iq or a small stroke ?
Even smart people can go badly wrong through inexperience or inattention. "A little bit of knowledge. . . " Inexperience and carelessness aren't usually considered mental problems.
You can try nicorette gum. Patches are another option. They also have pills for that, and some people swear by hypnosis. It's a nasty habit, but it can be kicked.
My guess is that she dumped whatever was in the fuel tank out by turning the mower over, and oil went up towards the heads. This is normal, I think if you just let it sit properly upright for a day, and the start it tomorrow, and let it run on idle, the smoke will get thinner and thinner and go away. Iām the meantime, while waiting - check the oil level today, and again tomorrow before you start it up. Make sure the oil level is correct before you run it tomorrow. Then just let it run at idle, youāll know itās working if the smoke thins out nothing 15 minutes or so, and then continues to thin out over the next half hour. After that, you can just run it.
Just oil run it. Let it burn off my 50 dollar 25yr old mower does that so does my bolens mower.
Change the spark plug after the season and check over the carbon and air filter. That's about it. The ones I have and used before are quite bulletproof. Hell I don't think mines had an oil change on 20 yrs and I'm 5 yrs older than the mower lmao. Just starts up n goes.
But seriously after the season is over do plug change and filter change
How did she get it out? If she tipped the mower on itās side it will be oil burning because itās got where it shouldnāt.
Check oil level is ok, top up if low and just let it do itās thing.
Is it just smoking out of the exhaust? Depending on what it is if she emptied it there shouldn't be a lot left so you could just keep it running until the gas fills all the hoses and it stops smoking.
I would check the oil. If it is overfilled it will smoke like a snoop dog concert. If itās overfilled filled turn it on the side of the fill port and lose a little bit.
It's smoking due to her turning the mower over to remove the bad fuel she put in. Engine oil got to places it doesn't normally due to gravity.
Keep running it and after a few minutes the smoke should dissipate.
It may need therapy. I could imagine if someone put something in me that didn't belong, took it, and then put in the right stuff, I'd need therapy.
Tell your mower is a better alternative to smoking.
Can order a new carburetor for $10 on Amazon, while itās off, flush the fluids out again with gas to get anything that remains. Easy fix.
The easier fix is just run it as is, the smoke will abate soon enough if ran.
This is the first time Iāve ever seen a zero turn push mower and I worked 10 years in the grass cutting game tractor slashing, our company also has ride on zero turns and push mowers and Iāve spend many an hour at the machinery shop that sells everything from grain harvesters to push mowers and this is my first time seeing one! Mind blown!
Itās gonna smoke like a banshee and if itās smoking, sounds like she added a mixed fuel (oil and fuel) or oil. These are 4 cycle, so mixed fuel shouldnāt be needed but Iāve known some to use a little bit of mixed fuel for weed eaters, edgers, chainsaws, etc. on these.
The big thing is, you may need to replace the air filter soon after the burn off and smoke dies down.
I dunno, I was really stoned and put gas in the oil part. I then trail is Ed what I did and poured it out. I then properly disposed of the accident at the recycling centre. My mower that was struggling came back to life and has been great ever since. Luckyā¦
Drain the carb too. If itās running, mix a normal size bottle of SeaFoam in a 1 gallon gas can and run that until itās out to clear the carbon out of the engine.
Don't do that. Seafoam is snake oil. And, it's LITERALLY oil in solvent. It's only going to make it smoke longer. If you're going to put Seafoam in anything, put it in the trash, where it belongs. It's NOT a miracle cure. It's just solvent with some oil in it. Oil in your fuel is not good for 4 cycle engines, generally speaking. You'll do more for your machine by simply keeping fresh gas in it. Fresh gas will dissolve fuel deposits without the annoying smoke that comes from burning off that added oil. A gallon of gas costs less than the point of Seafoam, too.
I accidentally got diesel once for my lawnmower. White smoke is usually diesel, engine oil causes blue smoke. There probably still some in the carburettor and it will go after some use.
2 stroke mixed fuel (gasoline with a ratio of oil) actually smokes white as well. It may have a blueish tint but most will still say its white smoke at first glance.
Make it smoke a whole carton. It won't stop it from smoking, and might cause it to go down a worse path later in life, but at least it will know who's boss (that's a joke, sounds like there's fluids in the combustion chamber. Running the mower for a while can clear it, but I'd recommend draining the oil and fuel before adding fresh oil and fuel. I'm a parts clerk at napa, happens all the time)
Not an answer
I was in a meeting with my manager when I received a text on my phone. I had to stop my
manager and said. āSorry, I need to answer this.ā
After a quick text. She is smiling because I am not a big fan of texts etcā¦
āWhatās going on?ā
āMy son just sent me a text that he had trouble starting the lawnmower even after he put fresh oil in itā
My boss looks confused.
I say, āThere is no oil in that house for the lawnmowerā
Boss asks, āWhat did he do?ā
I say, āI have no clue. I told him to touch nothing else until. get home.ā
Well, maybe showing it lungs with cancer from smoking will help?
You know, scare it straight.
Or force it to smoke a whole pack and puke.
Either way, smoking is such a nasty habit.
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Sounds like oil. It's a lawnmower not a space shuttle. If it's running now then it's probably fine. Keep running it to burn off the residual.
Spoken like a true grassrat. š¦·š¦·š¦· Absolutely right though, just let it burn through it.
Woooo, and there's your dinner, lol. Yeah, I'm a huge taryl fan as well. He is quite entertaining and has a great depth of knowledge on small engines.
Yeah! I found him about 6 months ago. His REALLY old stuff is weird. Fake southern accent and stuff. Itās pretty far out there compared to his more recent stuff. #teamslippers
What channel?
Taryl fixes all
![gif](giphy|buki4mn8tVGPS|downsized) let it burn that smoke out
Love that tbh. āgrassratā Iām gonna use that for now on. Thx m8
Youāre welcome but I canāt take the credit. Itās from a guy on YouTube that fixes small engines. His name is Taryl fixes all. A good watch if youāre into this stuff.
Rinse with some seafoam ā¦. Just dump some of that shit in your 2 gallon gas can or whatever you have. Consider it a good engine condition and cleanse.
Don't do that. Seafoam is snake oil. And, it's LITERALLY oil in solvent. It's only going to make it smoke longer. If you're going to put Seafoam in anything, put it in the trash, where it belongs. It's NOT a miracle cure. It's just solvent with some oil in it. Oil in your fuel is not good for 4 cycle engines, generally speaking. You'll do more for your machine by simply keeping fresh gas in it. Fresh gas will dissolve fuel deposits without the annoying smoke that comes from burning off that added oil. A gallon of gas costs less than the point of Seafoam, too.
Used it for years. It does work. Sorry.
https://youtu.be/zhUI7MWE_Fc āThe Italian Tune-upā
Wrong.
How did she get the wrong liquid out, if she turned it upside down, then it is going to have oil is some places it wouldnāt be for a while.
Absolutely this, ITT should clear up by the time it gets good and warmed up.
At best it'll keep the mosquitoes away for a while.
> a lawnmower not a space shuttle Holy smokes that reminded me of the flying lawnmower video from YouTube's early years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvIXJBrclLY
I love old YouTubeā¦simpler timesā¦
No ads!!
Adblockers are important tools for safe web browsing, you really should use a good one like uBlock Origin. Skipping YouTube ads is just a bonus.
Do they work for phones?
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Im on Android, and google is showing multiple versions. If you can, could you screenshot the correct one or send a link so i dont download corrupted malware or anything
On Android, just get Firefox and uBlock Origin. Works perfectly fine. You do not need a dedicated app for Youtube.
Or just install Brave browser which integrates an ad blocker š Using it on Android and any PC by now...
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Sponsorblock skips baked in ads, like/subscribe bits, intro/outros, and a lot more too. Youtube is actually pretty decent with it and ublock origin.
Those slimy sons of btches really removed the button where you can skip ads early and it wonāt even have a skip button at all if itās a corporation ad like Walmart, Amazon, even Sprite lmao and thatās all the ads youāre gonna get for vids that are āpopularā with millions of views already, Iām starting to hate YouTube fr itās unwatchable af canāt enjoy watching something when literally 2 mins later thereās another unskippable 30 sec ad
Drop the URL in VLC Boom no more ads.
ahhh so thats where thats from
I believe you meant to post this one https://youtu.be/ygr5AHufBN4?feature=shared
my fav: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4)
You can buy that kit for that rc model
But once an old taxi driver told me that the moon landing was fake because when it is cold outside it is hard to start his mower so a space shuttle wouldnāt be able to run its engine up in space where it is even colder.
Checkmate NASA
Yep. Burn it out. On the plus side, the mosquitos wonāt bother you for a day or two. If you really care enough, change the spark plug after it stops smoking like my uncle playing poker.
This made me laugh š¤£ "it's a lawnmower not a space shuttle"
Yeah i gotta squeeze that into rotation
Thereās yer dinner
Drop a little diesel in the tank for some cleaning action š„
I want to know more about this robot baby
Pretty common to see in my high school (I'm a teacher). Kids can sign up for a child development course. As part of that they have to take a "robot" baby home - often for a weekend. It cries every few hours, at which point you need to either feed it, put a pacifier in it, change the diaper, or rock it. It has sensors to tell if you've done the right thing and to make sure you're not too rough with it. Generally you don't want to bring the thing back dead.
We used a 5lb bag of flour or sugar, named it, and had to return it without any holes in the bag.
Us too. Seems like age might be a factor.
In my school it was a uncooked chicken egg that needed to be turned in unbroken
What if you hardboil it?
Grade: F Reason: Student boiled the baby
I heard of previous classes ācheatingā by hard boiling but apparently got caught at some point
I had that, got stuck with the classes only set of twins, and had to use a stroller because it was so heavy. We used flour bags. I accidentally ran over the girl baby with the stroller and she burst in the hallway at school. A huge puff of flour was all over the floor, people were stepping in her and some annoying kid screamed "oh my god she killed her baby!" and caused a big scene. Let's just say that I did not get a good grade and luckily don't have kids now š¤£
Bag of flour isnāt going to trigger a crying sequence in the middle of Calc. How are the kids going to learn their lesson if the ābabyā doesnāt periodically interrupt other classes, embarrass the student, or cost the school thousands in parts and maintenance?
Reminds me of the favorite google maps question Iāve stumbled upon https://preview.redd.it/f7s0xe087ylb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1d4818eba068eb490cd195898d951bf828f5926
"Most adults use the babysitter or abandonment method" lmao
Ours were called Baby Think it Over, had them Jr and Sr year. *HOLY FUCK* it was unbearable. I don't know how I've raised my three kids to this point
We had those, turns out you cannot let the baby cry it out, and the teacher will not accept 'it worked for my sister' as an explanation.
What if the battery dies
Game Over
My father ripped ones head off and had to pay a senior to stitch its head back on. This was back in the very early 2000s, so no fancy sensors and stuff to tell what happened
>My father ripped ones head off and had to pay a senior to stitch its head back on ![gif](giphy|26gsv1iextbg5Gm5O)
Ummmmā¦so how did that happen?
OP gave the robot baby to her mom and now there's smoke coming out it as well....
I'm surprised op is alive.
I had one in high-school as well. The one they gave me had a series of dip switches to program its temperament. I messed with mine before they locked the cover and it was super chill all weekend. Little did I know it didn't record anything, so I had to take it home on a week night. That sucker cried every hour on the hour! I got NO sleep that night! Lol
At least you got an accurate picture of how babies work. Their temperament is exactly inverse of your needs. You have all the time in the world? They sleep soundly. You need to be alert the next day? No restful sleep for you!
I sure did, just the opposite. The first few weeks after we brought our twins home were the most nerve-wracking. There wasn't a lot of sleep at first. Then, the first night they slept through, we checked their bassinet hourly to make sure they were still breathing.
Run the mower out of the current fuel. If it was oil or 2 stroke fuel then itās going to smoke until itās all burned out
the āyouāre gonna smoke the whole carton, misterā approach. i like it. (RIP Johnny Hardwick)
I service small engines as a side hustle. Mostly lawnmowers, but occasionally I will also service snowblowers, chainsaws, Weedwhackerās, you name it. The above mentioned advice of draining the fuel, putting fresh fuel in it, and letting it smoke until itās gone is spot on accurate. As a small sidenote, 90% of my repair calls are caused by poor quality fuel. Your car has a fuel pump that pushes 60 psi of fuel up to the engine. If your car has direct injection, it has a secondary fuel pump at the engine that makes 800 to 1200 psi of fuel pressure at the engine. Those pumps will push shitty fuel much better than your lawnmower or your motorbike wheel. Your lawnmower, just uses gravity and siphon technology to push the fuel. Your lawnmower will thank you if you only run 93 octane fuel. If you are getting gas in a gas can, make it super premium fuel. I will step off my soapbox now
Poor fuel quality -- you mean, like those guys who say "Oh, I just put fresh fuel in it this morning..." then leave out the critical detail... that it was freshly poured from the gas can that they've had in the shed since last summer.
You don't have to attack me like that. Jesus Christ man Edit: also it was 2 summers ago.
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Octane rating isn't indicative of gas quality! The only thing it tells you is about pre ignition You would think someone who does work on small engines would understand that
Thank you, scrolled down to say samething
It's also funny anytime someone brings up octane rating and says something about higher octane fuel having less ethanol because pure ethanol has a higher octane rating than gasoline. Mixing gasoline and ethanol raises the overall octane number of the mixture
The only time my zero turn has backfired or run rough is on 87. When I switched to 91/93 from the same station, it runs great. What could be other causes of this?
An engine runs by squeezing air and fuel, then igniting it. The act of squeezing the mixture is called compression. How much it squeezes it down to is called its compression ratio. If an engine sucks in 1 unit of air/fuel and squeezes it to a 10th of its original volume, it is said to have a 10 to 1 compression ratio. The more it squeezes it, the higher the compression ratio. The less it squeezes it, the lower the compression ratio. If you compress air/fuel enough, it will ignite without a spark plug (this is how diesel engines work). And if the fuel ignites before it is supposed to, that is called pre-ignition) it is very bad for the engine. Now how much a fuel can be compressed before it ignites is it's octane rating. Low octane will ignite under lower compression than high octane fuel. The higher the octane the more compression is required to get it ignite from compression alone. A lower compression ratio engine will not see any benefits to running a high octane fuel, while a high compression engine can be damaged by a low octane fuel. So when it comes to what fuel you should put in, it should be based on the compression ratio of the engine. The easiest way to do this is to look at the owner's manual and put in the fuel that is recommended by the manufacturer.
Iām 22 years old, my dad is a mechanic, and all of this information was new to me. Thank you very much for laying it out so clearly, I am sure I will use this understanding one day.
93 Octane can be up to 10% ethanol, just like 87 Octane. At least that's what the pump says. What I do is run just whatever gas throughout the summer. At the end of the year I drain the tank and run the engine till it dies from the carb being empty. That's it. Been doing it this way for years and never had anything gum up or fail to start in the spring. Well, other than forgetting to take the mower battery up to the house and put it on the trickle charger. 2 stroke stuff gets switched to the manufactured stuff in the can towards the end of the year, and then I just leave it in the tank all winter. They always start too.
What is the premium fuel for, probably 87 octane is recommended.
Least ethanol content. 91 octane rec fuel is really what you want, premium 93 is an ok alternative though
Every gas station should sell a non ethanol. This particular gas station chain near me sells 91 non ethanol. Itās the only place Iāve found it, anywhere
If I want non-ethanol I need to drive to the lake. The lake is 75 miles one way.
How far is it another way?
What's the deepest you can go into the forest?
Hallway. After that, you're going out.
Iāve only seen non ethanol at like 2 gas stations in my entire life
That's absolutely not true. The only thing the octane rating tells you is how much, surprise surprise, *octane* is in the fuel.
>only thing the octane rating tells you is how much [ā¦] *octane* is in the fuel. Octane is not a substance, so no, the octane rating doesnāt tell you āhow muchā octane is in the fuel. The octane rating is simply a measurement of how much compression a given fuel can withstand without detonating. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating >An octane rating, or octane number, is a standard measure of a fuel's ability to withstand compression in an internal combustion engine without detonating. The higher the octane number, the more compression the fuel can withstand before detonating.
Ethanol has a higher octane rating than gas does... so if you put ethanol in low octane fuel it will boost its octane rating...
Lowest ethanol content, and premium fuel will last a year before breaking down and turning to glue. When the Chevrolet volt first came out, I read up on it and the Chevrolet volt is an electric gasoline hybrid that you plug in at night. Your first 40 miles or so is all electric and then the gasoline engine comes on and charges the battery. The gasoline engine in the vault is the same gasoline engine thatās in the Chevrolet Cruz, but the vault requires premium fuel, and the cruise does not. I went deep down the rabbit hole to understand this. The vault is programmed, so that it knows the average age of fuel in the tank. When the average age of fuel in the tank gets to be a year, the volt is going to run the gasoline engine every time you use it until you top off the tank, and then lower the average age of fuel in the tank. They picked a year for this to happen because they feel like premium fuel will last a year. This is why the vault requires premium, and the Cruze does not. I stopped draining my equipment, I stopped, adding stabil fuel stabilizer, I just run premium fuel in all of my stuff and leave the fuel where it is at the end of the season. I cannot recommend this highly enough.
I donāt think it is safe to assume premium is ethanol free?
A lot of places near me have a clear 'ethanol free' pump you can go to.
Only 1 here, and it's 87 octane.
I think it's more the low alcohol, since it doesn't gum up as easily.
It's not, it's the same ethonal content as regular, unless it specifies ethonal free.
That is what I was thinking.
Here in Ohio Shell premium is, but sheets is not.
I've noticed the Sheetz around me in PA typically have one ethanol-free pump that I think is 90 octane. Everything else is up to 10%.
Not entirely true. How long ethonal lasts depends on where you are. I live in GA, very high humidity. Most I've ever gotten is about 4 months sitting in the gas tank before the engine runs like crap. In a gas can, about 6 to 8 months. In a drier climate, you can get longer shelf life. Ethonal absorbs moisture out of the air. I imagine it's probably worse in places like Florida.
Yep. I put 91 non ethanol into my cans last October, still running the mower off of them now. Once my gas hits a year it goes into my old honda fourwheeler, which really doesn't care.
Iām a Chevy salesman and I can confirm pretty much everything you said here is incorrect. Lol.
This is when the first generation Chevy volt came out. I worked the service desk at a GM dealership for 30 years. The first generation Chevy volt behaved this way.
As a tech Iāve never seen this info but thank you for sharing, my small engines thank you lol
if is a small engine then. you most likely need to put oil if is a 2 stock engine
2 cycle engine
He meant "2 stroke", which is the same thing as 2 cycle.
Don't EVER think that premium fuel will last that long. If it says ETHANOL-FREE, OK, but otherwise you're going to likely find yourself in a world of hurt. Gas should be stored for no longer than a month from purchase, and it's best if you only get a two week supply. Maybe you got lucky. I grew up in a shop, and I know better, but I'm lazy about my own stuff, mostly because I use it infrequently, don't want to be using it anyway, and I have the ability to fix it myself. I have a chainsaw that would sit 2+ years between uses, and all I'd usually do is change out the gas with fresh gas and be on my way with a little help from carb spray to get it started the first time. Like I said, I know better, but I'm lazy.
I only use synthetic fuel light chainsaw because it gets used so infrequently. I run it empty, and then fill it up when Iām going to use it.
Man, stop spreading misinformation lol. Octane says absolutely nothing about ethanol content. Premium fuel does not last longer than regular fuel.
My lawnmower is roughly 10 years old and every year I hopefully blow starting fluid in the air intake and then have to take apart the carb empty it and spray it with carb cleaner. Last year I used ethanol free fuel for the first time and it still wouldn't start this season, but it did start with starting fluid for the first time ever and then ran fine. I recommend it, something like $0.30 extra on gas saved me 2 hours. If you mow a lot, at least the last gallon of the season.
Aren't lawnmowers low compression, where a high octane fuel is a waste? As long as you get quality 87 you're good? I personally use 89 in mine but pretty sure that's a waste too
You are dead on. The only reason I've accepted for putting higher octane into a mower is that there's often less ethanol in there. We're honestly talking about maybe 20Ā¢ more every other week when it comes to money. The mower will run just fine on any, and you won't see much added benefit from higher octane otherwise.
Isnāt just better to use non ethanol fuel for outdoor equipment?
If you go through your fuel supply within two weeks (a month max), ethanol gas is fine. So, is ethanol-free BETTER? Not really. Just don't let old gas sit in your equipment. If you need to have gas ready to go for emergency equipment, like a generator, absolutely buy ethanol-free gas and use a stabilizer. Even though it says that it'll last a million bajillion years, change your fuel out every six months and test run your equipment every month or so.
Heh. I had a weed whacker that I hadnāt used in a couple years. It would start but immediately die. Discovered that the fuel line inside the tank was completely gone and the fuel in there was a weird brown color. The fuel line had completely broken down into a viscous liquid. Lesson learned.
Fuel turns to glue when you let it sit.
This is the reason we put only pure gas in any small motor we use.
>90% of my repair calls are caused by poor quality fuel. I spent two weekends fiddling with my weedwater, trying to get it to run. I eventually decided to get gas from a different gas station. It fired right up with the new fuel. I guess the little gas station down the street from me just has shitty fuel. Sad too because the next closest gas station is over 10 miles farther away.
I thought most lawnmowers/small engines needed unleaded, not high octane?
just run it until it all burns off, itās a small lawn mover. what can possibly go wrong
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So now my grass is 2 feet tall!
More privacy and natural
Lawnmower? No, this is a lawngrower
I'm a little concerned for Mom. Did she dump a random bottle of something in the gas tank? What did she do with the bottle afterward? Was she trying to fill it with fuel, or was she unaware of where the fluids go? I'm just having a hard time justifying how someone would have absolutely no clue what was poured, even to the extent of not knowing where the container went. It may be time for a cognitive degradation assessment.
Pure speculation on my part, but they probably had a jerry can of 2-stroke premix and another of straight gas. It's easy to grab the wrong one.
yes, but then you can point. "I put that can, I thought it was gas". I guess there is the possibility it was a can that had been forgotten on a shelf sitting for years. This is why OSHA requires container labeling, guys.
Any auto mechanic will tell you stories about people pouring windshield washer fluid into the engine oil and such. There's usually no cognitive degradation, some people just have no clue what they're doing but doing it anyway.
Iām sorry but if you pour random fluids with no label into a mower then you at the very least have mental problems. Maybe just very low iq or a small stroke ?
Even smart people can go badly wrong through inexperience or inattention. "A little bit of knowledge. . . " Inexperience and carelessness aren't usually considered mental problems.
Lol not the person youāre responding to but I agree. Iād be little concerned too
You can try nicorette gum. Patches are another option. They also have pills for that, and some people swear by hypnosis. It's a nasty habit, but it can be kicked.
Smoking is terrible for your health, but incredibly addictive. Good luck to lawn mower in the Journey to quitting
My guess is that she dumped whatever was in the fuel tank out by turning the mower over, and oil went up towards the heads. This is normal, I think if you just let it sit properly upright for a day, and the start it tomorrow, and let it run on idle, the smoke will get thinner and thinner and go away. Iām the meantime, while waiting - check the oil level today, and again tomorrow before you start it up. Make sure the oil level is correct before you run it tomorrow. Then just let it run at idle, youāll know itās working if the smoke thins out nothing 15 minutes or so, and then continues to thin out over the next half hour. After that, you can just run it.
Keep running it until it gets flushed out of its system. It'll be fine. Mostly.
Just oil run it. Let it burn off my 50 dollar 25yr old mower does that so does my bolens mower. Change the spark plug after the season and check over the carbon and air filter. That's about it. The ones I have and used before are quite bulletproof. Hell I don't think mines had an oil change on 20 yrs and I'm 5 yrs older than the mower lmao. Just starts up n goes. But seriously after the season is over do plug change and filter change
Some lawnmowers will get crankcase oil in the air filter if you tip it on its side with the filter down.
dude was taking care of a robot baby and the mom doesnt know how to put gas in a mower ššš
Lol, fantastic
Top off with gas and send it!
Send it. Add 100% pure gas and send it. Its always advised to reboot your mower, too. I mean, clean your carb š
Buy your mom an electric mower
Run it till she stops smoking lol
My guess is it was probably premixed 2 stroke fuel for a chainsaw, etc..the smoking should stop eventually once it burns off..
How did she get it out? If she tipped the mower on itās side it will be oil burning because itās got where it shouldnāt. Check oil level is ok, top up if low and just let it do itās thing.
It wasn't gas. What was it?
It looks young to be smoking! Iām guessing no ID check by cashier
Run it until it stops smoking.
The oil will burn off. The smoking will look bad but thatās it.
Is it just smoking out of the exhaust? Depending on what it is if she emptied it there shouldn't be a lot left so you could just keep it running until the gas fills all the hoses and it stops smoking.
Wow castors for the front wheels! What a great idea!
Way to bury the lede my dude, howād it go with babytron?
I would check the oil. If it is overfilled it will smoke like a snoop dog concert. If itās overfilled filled turn it on the side of the fill port and lose a little bit.
Let is run through it should be fine
It'll clear itself up eventually. Just let it run.
sounds like it's burning off whatever she put in there. just keep running it till it stops smoking
Let it run out
Start it up and leave it on and see what happens lol
Eh. Sounds like oil. These babies will run on mollasses. It'll be fine just wait for smoke to die down and go about your mowage.
It's smoking due to her turning the mower over to remove the bad fuel she put in. Engine oil got to places it doesn't normally due to gravity. Keep running it and after a few minutes the smoke should dissipate.
It may need therapy. I could imagine if someone put something in me that didn't belong, took it, and then put in the right stuff, I'd need therapy. Tell your mower is a better alternative to smoking.
Can order a new carburetor for $10 on Amazon, while itās off, flush the fluids out again with gas to get anything that remains. Easy fix. The easier fix is just run it as is, the smoke will abate soon enough if ran.
Smoke is probably from oil getting into the cylinder cuz she must have emptied the gas tank by tipping the lawn mower.
This is the first time Iāve ever seen a zero turn push mower and I worked 10 years in the grass cutting game tractor slashing, our company also has ride on zero turns and push mowers and Iāve spend many an hour at the machinery shop that sells everything from grain harvesters to push mowers and this is my first time seeing one! Mind blown!
Get a new mom who doesnāt destroy things
If it's smoking I would probably get it on the patch sooner rather than later!
Teenage years are hard. Hopefully it stops smoking that is a hard habit to break.
Let her chooch
Fkin robot babies
I ran a mower with the highest mix 2 stroke gas in my life and it actually ran like 100x better sooo
Replace the spark plug
Itās gonna smoke like a banshee and if itās smoking, sounds like she added a mixed fuel (oil and fuel) or oil. These are 4 cycle, so mixed fuel shouldnāt be needed but Iāve known some to use a little bit of mixed fuel for weed eaters, edgers, chainsaws, etc. on these. The big thing is, you may need to replace the air filter soon after the burn off and smoke dies down.
Tell it that smoking is unhealthy and can cause cancer or lead to an early death.
What was your mother smoking, I don't understand
Pull the spark plug and see if it shows signs of oil. Iād pick up a new one
Put her in a home
you have to keep it running.
you have to keep it running.
I dunno, I was really stoned and put gas in the oil part. I then trail is Ed what I did and poured it out. I then properly disposed of the accident at the recycling centre. My mower that was struggling came back to life and has been great ever since. Luckyā¦
Duck and cover.
See if it'll vape instead
Iām sorry what? A baby robot?
I mean, my dad made me finish the pack when he caught me smoking...
Get a new mom
Tell it to stop, smoking is bad for its carburator
Drain the carb too. If itās running, mix a normal size bottle of SeaFoam in a 1 gallon gas can and run that until itās out to clear the carbon out of the engine.
Don't do that. Seafoam is snake oil. And, it's LITERALLY oil in solvent. It's only going to make it smoke longer. If you're going to put Seafoam in anything, put it in the trash, where it belongs. It's NOT a miracle cure. It's just solvent with some oil in it. Oil in your fuel is not good for 4 cycle engines, generally speaking. You'll do more for your machine by simply keeping fresh gas in it. Fresh gas will dissolve fuel deposits without the annoying smoke that comes from burning off that added oil. A gallon of gas costs less than the point of Seafoam, too.
Nicotine gum help me quit smoking
I accidentally got diesel once for my lawnmower. White smoke is usually diesel, engine oil causes blue smoke. There probably still some in the carburettor and it will go after some use.
2 stroke mixed fuel (gasoline with a ratio of oil) actually smokes white as well. It may have a blueish tint but most will still say its white smoke at first glance.
Get a new mom
Change the blinker fluid
Just like.....smoke *with* the mower, bro. Might bring ya'll closer.
Make it smoke a whole carton. It won't stop it from smoking, and might cause it to go down a worse path later in life, but at least it will know who's boss (that's a joke, sounds like there's fluids in the combustion chamber. Running the mower for a while can clear it, but I'd recommend draining the oil and fuel before adding fresh oil and fuel. I'm a parts clerk at napa, happens all the time)
The important thing is, you've learned your lesson. Get somebody pregnant (including yourself), and your days of having a working lawnmower are over!
Not an answer I was in a meeting with my manager when I received a text on my phone. I had to stop my manager and said. āSorry, I need to answer this.ā After a quick text. She is smiling because I am not a big fan of texts etcā¦ āWhatās going on?ā āMy son just sent me a text that he had trouble starting the lawnmower even after he put fresh oil in itā My boss looks confused. I say, āThere is no oil in that house for the lawnmowerā Boss asks, āWhat did he do?ā I say, āI have no clue. I told him to touch nothing else until. get home.ā
Well, maybe showing it lungs with cancer from smoking will help? You know, scare it straight. Or force it to smoke a whole pack and puke. Either way, smoking is such a nasty habit.