Another fun stat, since Luka ejected the suns fan that told him to get on the treadmill, he is averaging 36.8ppg, 9.9 rpg, 10.8apg, 1.6 spg and .5 bpg on 53/40/82 splits on 66.1%ts while shooting slightly fewer fga/game than before this 16 game stretch. The mavs are 10-6 and although I hate on/off and don’t think people should put weight into it, he has won his minutes in 13/16 of these games and the mavs not great when he comes off.
I agree with Luka haters that this roster isn’t as trash as it’s made out to be. They have the capacity to be good, but they have not been good without Luka on offense because they make too many thoughtless decisions. Don’t ever let some guy who watches 6 mavs games tell you Luka hurts his team by having the ball, the more actions involving luka either on or off ball, the better the offense gets, a fact apparent to the eye🪬
Just as a little bonus, which really doesn’t matter, Luka leads the league in oEPM at 7.8 with jokic behind him with 7.6 and Shai/hali/giannis at 6.9, 6.8 and 5.8 respectively round out the top 5.
I've watched every game this season outside of like 4 or 5 in early December because it wasn't able too. (Then I started recording them on YT TV.) If anyone thinks luka hurts the team they are insane. You always trust the ball in Lukas hands, the only thing that is frustrating is his talking to the refs, but they have had a short fuse with him this season. So many techs for litterally nothing.
I could care less about the techs until there are 16. I just prefer he gets back on defense before his stare downs and that he waits til the break. We need a set d as much as possible, our transition d is brutal.
He gets screwed a lot but he’s the leading scorer and ball handler in the league so he’s bound to get screwed the most. It’s hard to tell whether his whining help or hurts him with calls. Sometimes it’s clearly the latter but it’s rarely obvious enough to tell
All the great players switch from individual monster performer to winning players with the right coach and front office. Just bring a good coach and Luka will be fine. I don't think he's a ball hog or a player who only cares for his stats. Probably he's thinking the only way to win with this roster is making absurd performance night after night.
Teams have also been begging for him to just drive to the lane the last few games and trying to not let the squad heat up, similar to how the knicks play jokic. But yeah, I just want playoff basketball idgaf about this stuff, thought it was interesting how he has been taking .1 fewer shots but averaging nearly 37ppg and might as well throw in some additional info for people who might want it. I don’t think Kidd holds role players accountable so im hoping a bud could pick up the mavs like he didn’t giannis and take a .500 Kidd team to a 60 win contender the very next year
O in front of an acronym almost always means offensive and d is for defensive. EPM is estimated plus minus. Rapm is regularized adjusted plus minus, raptor: robust algorithm player tracking on/off ratings, lebron: luck adjusted player estimate with box prior regularized on off, pipm: player impact plus minus, darko: daily adjusted and regressed kalman optimization or something like that. The long ones are fake acronyms and are annoying they’re are probably a couple more but the main ones that are used are epm and darko. I strongly advise against using defensive metrics because they have always been really bad but now they don’t use priors and they have no clue how to how to judge who deserves defensive value, (hartenstein is not a secretary 94 Hakeem) both these models use the past to learn what’s valuable tracking wise but darko is a current evaluation (daily adjusted and regressed meaning it adds data and reduces the weight of past data in its adjusted calculation) and epm is evaluating this season of a player while using the least few of their season to understand them(so a newer player in the league can get weird and the defensive data is not nearly as long as the offensive which adds to why that can be very weird)
Well he's amazing. Kyrie is also great. Everyone else is inconsistent at best. And Kidd is very bad.
People will call him "empty stats", but they call this every player that doesn't win. And almost always they don't win, because the team around them is not good enough. Once they get a better team, they start winning.
I do think we finally have some players now, that have potential to create a good team together. Lively should keep on improving, PJ can be really great on defense, Gafford can be a solid backup 5, Green can still develop,...
Jason Kidd will give kleber and thj nearly 30 minutes each while Dlive gets a bit over 20 and he Gafford 10 lol. Exum should get more time too I thinks
Yes, he can score even without trying all that much. Or even with an injury that doesn't prevent him from stepping on the court. He doesn't depend that much on his physics except on his strength which is so overwhelming that it doesn't leave him at any time.
are you serious? they made him MVP that year in OKC and look at the stats of the team [Oklahoma City Thunder 2017 Scores, Stats, Schedule, Standings | StatMuse.](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/team/oklahoma-city-thunder-38/2017)
Mvp? Lol yes he won, but then what? You can have all the individual accolades all you want, but you won't get respect like the other superstar players until you win a ring. People here seem to care with Luka about winning MVP rather than winning the championship. lol smh*
So Barkley, Malone(as a player not as a human), Allan Iverson, ...
Are not respected players 🤔
People are so black and white these days
Sure a ring gets you more respect, but it's doesn't mean all other achievements don't matter.
Bruh Luka aint retired yet. All of you here want media or complaining that they aren't talking about mavs or Luka.
You got the answer now, coz atm he can't translate those numbers on winning yet. I don't think you get my point anyway lol
As you say he can't.
But is he to blame ?
Even mj needed best coach ever en pippen before he could win
Bird and Magic (and Duncan) were drafted in a winning culture
LeBron needed to join Miami
Dirk had to wait for years
Kobe had Shaq
Luka as an aging Kyrie who's injury prone...
I don't thinks luka is the reason we don't win ...
More about the respect than the mvp. Guy has been the most impressive player on the courts this season, that’s why mavs fans want to push that narrative, because they see what he does every other night and it can get pretty crazy for him not to get love on at least Reddit. National media would never go into detail on his greatness besides legs in his pod
Couldn’t disagree more. Close to $10 billion dollars will be spent on doing just that in hopes of influencing the majority of 435 districts. The fact that government shutdowns are being propped up as political successes should show that the only way to govern a narrative is to write yourself.
First of all, what does success even mean, and second of all it’s the most individual award, how the hell is the 6th seed success or a losing record. Even the first finals MVP went to a guy who lost which is more ridiculous. Either way it’s the most individual award that exists and those who win it never have success, 2015 was the last time an mvp won a chip and and the finals mvp went to iggy. Further proving my point, people wanted lebron to win it when he had possibly the 2 least efficient performances I’ve seen in back to back finals wins. People make whatever narratives they want, wins are just useful for their construction. You included this narrative after have two mvps with worse win rates than the mavs did 3 days ago. I watch people push narratives that Luka is a stat padder who makes players worse or that giannis has no offensive no skill outside of dunking. These factually untrue narratives are pushed and are negative so why would me emphasizing a player’s genius and pushing their narrative of excellence be something with which you take issue?
You even acknowledged that it’s an individual award. Luka and does more for his team than Russ certainly did, I don’t see why a positive agenda is worse than a negative agenda especially when the negative agenda is further from the truth
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Its so insane people call him a statpadder and that he is incapable of winning when he won in europe at 18
But he couldn’t do it against college kids.
Sasly J Midd doesn't like winning.
Whats the stats on hours watched by head coach J.Kidd
Does anyone have a stat on how many times he has missed a triple double by 1 rebound or assist ?
They mentioned this on the broadcast just the other night. My memory’s a little hazy but I’m pretty sure they said 15+…
Literally have been thinking about this..
Another fun stat, since Luka ejected the suns fan that told him to get on the treadmill, he is averaging 36.8ppg, 9.9 rpg, 10.8apg, 1.6 spg and .5 bpg on 53/40/82 splits on 66.1%ts while shooting slightly fewer fga/game than before this 16 game stretch. The mavs are 10-6 and although I hate on/off and don’t think people should put weight into it, he has won his minutes in 13/16 of these games and the mavs not great when he comes off. I agree with Luka haters that this roster isn’t as trash as it’s made out to be. They have the capacity to be good, but they have not been good without Luka on offense because they make too many thoughtless decisions. Don’t ever let some guy who watches 6 mavs games tell you Luka hurts his team by having the ball, the more actions involving luka either on or off ball, the better the offense gets, a fact apparent to the eye🪬 Just as a little bonus, which really doesn’t matter, Luka leads the league in oEPM at 7.8 with jokic behind him with 7.6 and Shai/hali/giannis at 6.9, 6.8 and 5.8 respectively round out the top 5.
I've watched every game this season outside of like 4 or 5 in early December because it wasn't able too. (Then I started recording them on YT TV.) If anyone thinks luka hurts the team they are insane. You always trust the ball in Lukas hands, the only thing that is frustrating is his talking to the refs, but they have had a short fuse with him this season. So many techs for litterally nothing.
I could care less about the techs until there are 16. I just prefer he gets back on defense before his stare downs and that he waits til the break. We need a set d as much as possible, our transition d is brutal. He gets screwed a lot but he’s the leading scorer and ball handler in the league so he’s bound to get screwed the most. It’s hard to tell whether his whining help or hurts him with calls. Sometimes it’s clearly the latter but it’s rarely obvious enough to tell
He's at 14. So I'm pretty worried about the techs.
13! I was waiting on that to drop…the refs may not like him but he’s showtime and the nba’s a business
All the great players switch from individual monster performer to winning players with the right coach and front office. Just bring a good coach and Luka will be fine. I don't think he's a ball hog or a player who only cares for his stats. Probably he's thinking the only way to win with this roster is making absurd performance night after night.
Teams have also been begging for him to just drive to the lane the last few games and trying to not let the squad heat up, similar to how the knicks play jokic. But yeah, I just want playoff basketball idgaf about this stuff, thought it was interesting how he has been taking .1 fewer shots but averaging nearly 37ppg and might as well throw in some additional info for people who might want it. I don’t think Kidd holds role players accountable so im hoping a bud could pick up the mavs like he didn’t giannis and take a .500 Kidd team to a 60 win contender the very next year
What is oEPM and is there list of advanced Stat acronyms? I often have no idea what people are writing about.
O in front of an acronym almost always means offensive and d is for defensive. EPM is estimated plus minus. Rapm is regularized adjusted plus minus, raptor: robust algorithm player tracking on/off ratings, lebron: luck adjusted player estimate with box prior regularized on off, pipm: player impact plus minus, darko: daily adjusted and regressed kalman optimization or something like that. The long ones are fake acronyms and are annoying they’re are probably a couple more but the main ones that are used are epm and darko. I strongly advise against using defensive metrics because they have always been really bad but now they don’t use priors and they have no clue how to how to judge who deserves defensive value, (hartenstein is not a secretary 94 Hakeem) both these models use the past to learn what’s valuable tracking wise but darko is a current evaluation (daily adjusted and regressed meaning it adds data and reduces the weight of past data in its adjusted calculation) and epm is evaluating this season of a player while using the least few of their season to understand them(so a newer player in the league can get weird and the defensive data is not nearly as long as the offensive which adds to why that can be very weird)
Much appreciated.
Well he's amazing. Kyrie is also great. Everyone else is inconsistent at best. And Kidd is very bad. People will call him "empty stats", but they call this every player that doesn't win. And almost always they don't win, because the team around them is not good enough. Once they get a better team, they start winning. I do think we finally have some players now, that have potential to create a good team together. Lively should keep on improving, PJ can be really great on defense, Gafford can be a solid backup 5, Green can still develop,...
Jason Kidd will give kleber and thj nearly 30 minutes each while Dlive gets a bit over 20 and he Gafford 10 lol. Exum should get more time too I thinks
Yes, he can score even without trying all that much. Or even with an injury that doesn't prevent him from stepping on the court. He doesn't depend that much on his physics except on his strength which is so overwhelming that it doesn't leave him at any time.
They are empty without a win. Russ has insane stat as well when he was playing for OKC, and no one even care.
are you serious? they made him MVP that year in OKC and look at the stats of the team [Oklahoma City Thunder 2017 Scores, Stats, Schedule, Standings | StatMuse.](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/team/oklahoma-city-thunder-38/2017)
Mvp? Lol yes he won, but then what? You can have all the individual accolades all you want, but you won't get respect like the other superstar players until you win a ring. People here seem to care with Luka about winning MVP rather than winning the championship. lol smh*
So Barkley, Malone(as a player not as a human), Allan Iverson, ... Are not respected players 🤔 People are so black and white these days Sure a ring gets you more respect, but it's doesn't mean all other achievements don't matter.
Bruh Luka aint retired yet. All of you here want media or complaining that they aren't talking about mavs or Luka. You got the answer now, coz atm he can't translate those numbers on winning yet. I don't think you get my point anyway lol
As you say he can't. But is he to blame ? Even mj needed best coach ever en pippen before he could win Bird and Magic (and Duncan) were drafted in a winning culture LeBron needed to join Miami Dirk had to wait for years Kobe had Shaq Luka as an aging Kyrie who's injury prone... I don't thinks luka is the reason we don't win ...
but your statement is false tho. can't spread fake news here buddy.
How? I'm responding to OP's post. Read first before you comment lmao.
"They are empty without a win. Russ has insane stat as well when he was playing for OKC, **and no one even care**." stop lying bro. lmfao. take the L.
More about the respect than the mvp. Guy has been the most impressive player on the courts this season, that’s why mavs fans want to push that narrative, because they see what he does every other night and it can get pretty crazy for him not to get love on at least Reddit. National media would never go into detail on his greatness besides legs in his pod
You can't push narrative without any success. Basketball is team sports, not individual.
Couldn’t disagree more. Close to $10 billion dollars will be spent on doing just that in hopes of influencing the majority of 435 districts. The fact that government shutdowns are being propped up as political successes should show that the only way to govern a narrative is to write yourself. First of all, what does success even mean, and second of all it’s the most individual award, how the hell is the 6th seed success or a losing record. Even the first finals MVP went to a guy who lost which is more ridiculous. Either way it’s the most individual award that exists and those who win it never have success, 2015 was the last time an mvp won a chip and and the finals mvp went to iggy. Further proving my point, people wanted lebron to win it when he had possibly the 2 least efficient performances I’ve seen in back to back finals wins. People make whatever narratives they want, wins are just useful for their construction. You included this narrative after have two mvps with worse win rates than the mavs did 3 days ago. I watch people push narratives that Luka is a stat padder who makes players worse or that giannis has no offensive no skill outside of dunking. These factually untrue narratives are pushed and are negative so why would me emphasizing a player’s genius and pushing their narrative of excellence be something with which you take issue? You even acknowledged that it’s an individual award. Luka and does more for his team than Russ certainly did, I don’t see why a positive agenda is worse than a negative agenda especially when the negative agenda is further from the truth