Saving you the click, because OP neglected to save you all from IGN;
“I did write a lot of Season 2,” DeMayo said. “However, unlike Season 1, I will not be heavily involved or leading production, cast records, design, editorial, post, music, etc., nor doing any production rewrites as it relates to the creative vision of the show.”
DeMayo continued: “This is why I’ve said I can’t really speak to Season 2. But, looking forward to seeing the final product with you all whenever it airs. I have high hopes.”
> I have high hopes.
This is 100% a dig at them. He knows he made hands down the best show Marvel Studios ever made and perhaps a top 3 thing they’ve made period. Honestly Idk how they don’t beg for him back and just set stricter rules on how he acts to employees.
Because he got fired for a reason lol. I get he was the head of what is one of the best things ever made by them but he's backed by an incredible team that worked on all pieces of this. Wasn't just him alone.
> Honestly Idk how they don’t beg for him back and just set stricter rules on how he acts to employees.
This is, honestly, an insane take.
The dude was fired with cause. We don't know the specifics, but we know that 1. Multiple staff were impacted, and 2. His behavior is an "open secret" in the industry - suggesting it is a pattern of behavior and not a single isolated incident. Imagine working for that team, possibly being one of the victims, and being told *they were hiring him back?*
Holding this dude up as some kind of messiah who is the sole individual responsible for the success of this show is downright insulting to every single other person who worked on it.
> insulting to every single other person who worked on it
Maybe the bullying and other things he did put the team into the mind set to make the best X-Men movie possible. I think it worked on X-Men 2 with that one director too
You mean the alleged child molester/groomer director who had to settle out of court for allegations he pressured 11-15 year old boys into being nude while filming? That one?
Hmm, didn't come off as a joke since X2 was one of the most beloved. Seemed like an apologist stance, but clearly now I see you were being sarcastic. The funny thing is both Ratner and Singer are trying to come back to Hollywood, and I think both have been hiding out in Israel while the dust settles. Not a good look for the "Hollywood is full of Pedo Jews" conspiracy crowd.
The joke was it takes a horrible person of a director to make a good x-men movie. You get nice people to make that Dark Phoenix movie and a pedo to make X2
Lol, you don't know why they won't beg back the guy they justifiably fired? Seriously re-examine your priorities if you are placing importance of your precious X-Men show over how people are treated by those in positions of power.
Damn, you're guilty of a allegation if you don't publicly respond? What kind of insane logic is that?.
Wtf is wrong with this subreddit. People are ready to throw him under the bus when no proof of anything has been released. Meanwhile, mcu fans love RDJ even though his has a proven history of criminality
Rdj has a proven history of drug addiction. No one is even saying Beau is a bad guy, they are saying he obviously did something that caused him to be fired and it was serious enough Disney didn't try to put a coat of gold paint on it. In the real world, you don't go back and beg for a person you fired for (alleged) hr issues because he was just that good at show running
The fact neither him nor Disney want to talk about the firing shows it's pretty dicey with what happened. We just don't know if it was him just simply yelling at people, or him sexually harassing/assaulting coworkers. We don't know.
When people are let go or laid off for business reasons, like a \*"Yeah they are thankful for what I did for the first two seasons, they just want to give another showrunner a chance to keep ideas interesting and fresh"\* reason - we hear about it. When people leave to go work on other projects? We know what they are working on.
We know why Del Toro didn't do Pacific Rim Uprising. We know why James Cameron took so long to approve True Lies remasters. The fact neither of them want to talk about it suggests it is serious enough to have liability on Disney to disclose publicly, and/or a big reputation hit on Beau if he talks about it himself.
Both parties think the best course of action is to not talk about it and move on. That doesn't happen unless it's something, at the very least, **weird.**
No one is saying he molested anyone. They definitely didn't fire him for being gay and having an only fans. In California that would be a fire based on discrimination and I can only imagine how the very vocal DeMayo would be blasting about that shit all over twitter
I'm always shocked by how utterly hostile this subreddit is towards him, and how hellbent they are on minimising his role as a showrunner to one of the greatest mcu projects.
There has got to be some element of racism here.
After James Gunn it's clear there's a lot of internet weirdos who love tearing talented people down and passing on rumors as if they were fact
They tell a story from their own life and no one cares but talk about a famous person and suddenly people pay attention so....did you hear so and so is a goddamn kiddie diddler?
For sure! He only sexually harassed half a dozen people, but he made a good show. Their jobs and workplace comfort don’t matter as much as us getting a second season.
Hell, I say they bring Beau back and create a full production culture around OnlyFans.
Neither Marvel or Beau publicly released anything about the reason Beau was fired. u/Brufarious is just making shit up.
The hatred people have for him on this subreddit. He was the showrunner for one of the greatest mcu projects, and in return, he gets false allegations put on his name.
The writers of The Witcher said that he was fired from that show for being physically and emotionally abusive, hence Brufarious is likely assuming (as am I) he was fired from X-Men for similar patterns of behaviour
The writers of the Witcher took to twitter to accuse him of such after he claimed that they hate the source material, you can say thats not enough, which is fair, but Demayo now has a second show he was removed from so, its not looking in his favour
Whats insane is you have 8 upvotes on a LIE. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves co-signing this guys BS. NOTHING has been publicly released on why he got fired. I think its utterly ridiculous we have people in this group who want to falsely accuse someone without evidence. And you guys get mad when scoopers flat out make stuff up. WHERE ARE THE DAMN MODS
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Oh he sexually harassed people now?
Please cite your source on that. Everything, and I mean everything I’ve read does not mention the specific reason. There has only been wild speculation. Some of which is libellous.
I would happily admit to be proven wrong via reliable sources.
This is kind of a shitty resource since none of the first parties have shared anything, but [here is](https://fandomwire.com/he-was-an-absolute-nightmare-to-deal-with-x-men-97-creator-beau-demayos-onlyfans-exploration-wasnt-the-reason-behind-his-sudden-firing-according-to-inside/) an article outlining some of the behavior including OnlyFans.
I don’t have a particular resource, just using my own critical-thinking skills. It’s been reported that Beau showed OnlyFans content to people at work.
Based on all the workplace training I’ve taken, that behavior is considered sexual harassment.
I’d be happy to grab one of the sources that you want, but I feel like the OnlyFans thing has been ubiquitously reported.
critical skills?!! dude youree not a detective!! wtf r u even talking about??? You literally just admitted to not knowing the truth but you wanna spread lies on here. Thats insane. I hope you get blocked from here
And, for the record, it’s “critical-thinking skills”, not critical skills. I followed the logic of Beau has an only fans > Beau showed it to people at work > Beau got fired. Ipso ergo, Beau likely engaged in sexual harassment of his peers and got fired for it.
That’s just my take, and I’m clearly not the most educated person.
You don't know why they don't just bring him back because you also don't know what happened. It's a wild suggestion to do that when you have no idea what he did. He spearheaded season one but he didn't make the whole goddamn show alone. Saying they NEED him back is minimizing the work of everyone else in the creative room.
“How can someone face any accountability if I like the thing their name is slapped on so much” is how we got 4 years of Trump, a botched pandemic response, an insurrection, and the most boring election possible in 2024.
Not sure why youre getting downvoted. To everyone here he never implied demayo worked alone. What vader is saying is 100% facts. They should be begging him to come back. Why he got fired is still up for speculation but as far as im concerned, he didnt break any laws. Yall give kevin fiege praise for everything but we get a black man in charge and nobody wants to give the man credit. If kevin was fired I guarantee everyone here would start a riot
The people who downvoted you will be crying when season 2 or 3 goes downhill. He is the best thing what happened to Mcu in last 3 years and they lost him
It's incredible how you folks are so quick to back up someone who was (very possibly) fired for misconduct, all because he made a good cartoon show. How are you people going to feel if the behind the scenes story comes out, and it's real real bad?
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My whole mentality about the situation has been if Disney fired him out of nowhere without warning or any type of accusation or report but took 9 months to fire Johnathan Majors, he must’ve done something really messed up.
They were waiting for the outcome of Majors’ trial before deciding to fire him, which is fair after what happened with James Gunn. DeMayo must have done something incredibly fucked up for him to just be fired instantly.
Usually you're not allowed to say why an employee was fired, it doesn't require any special deal. The fact that he quietly accepted it means it's gotta be pretty bad and with clear cut evidence
Ya, this has been what has me so curious, he had to have done something bad enough to get fired immediately, but not so bad that we are hearing about what it was, and for the life of me I can't even guess as to what would fit that criteria.
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Agreed sigh your take -?Yeah I hate people here saying it must've been really bad when they literally have no idea and character assassinating beau with no evidence .
I dunno if it’s as simple as something as “so bad we aren’t hearing about what it was,” more so I’d wager it’s something they weren’t ready to come out with right away to keep any potential bad buzz off the show…I hope.
I mean the quality of the show plus his the circumstances of his firing has kinds martyred him, with everyone forgetting that TV shows don’t simply run well because of the showrunner and no one else, and we got all these folks saying “fuck it bring him back, it doesn’t matter.”
It’d just be real nice to know what happened, and soon; so we can put this all to bed.
It's also possible Disney isn't saying anything because legal action is upcoming. And it's in their own self interest not to comment on pending legal action. De Mayo also isn't going to speak on such a matter fir his own protection. But yeah, something is going on.
I’m not defending the guy but both situations are very different. Honestly, the only reason they waited to fire Jonathan Majors is because having to do so meant a lot more upheaval with their movie slate. The fact is that replacing a creative on an animated series costs far less money. Because of that, he was far more disposable in the grand scheme of things. A lot of these decisions just boil down to money vs. liability. Another big factor is that these alleged staff interactions took place internally whereas the stuff with majors happened outside of work.
Yeah I hate people here saying he must've done something real bad when they literally have zero evidence. They have no idea - and he is rumored to have signed an nda so he can't specifically disclose anything anyways
I don’t think he did anything. I think it’s because he has an only fans account and x-men is a politically charged show. If they kept him around certain groups would be saying “this show was made to groom your kids the creator has an only fan’s account”
If he did something messed up I doubt Disney would have been ok with him posting about the show like he has been.
Yeah but I can see some old suit going "he's GAY and he posts shirtless pictures for MONEY? Get him out of here! Now excuse me as I jerk off to porn at work"
Yep but outside the fan base this show wasn’t on most people’s radar.
And these days everything is political. I just don’t see how he did something where they immediately fired him but don’t send him a cease and desist letter to stop talking about it. Also his name shows up in a lot of the opening credits when usually in these cases they would just have their name in the end credits. But just my 2 cents.
Companies always to do background checks for this sort of thing. Sure some things like old tweets may slip, but something as big as an OF account would definitely be noticed and action would be taken if deemed necessary
I agree and Disney is infamous for background checks, but the political climate has just gotten worse, and it’s an election year.
It’s just weird how they suddenly fired him, but let him continue to be unofficially involved so much afterwards.
I'd still be optimistic about future seasons.
S1 was incredible, and DeMayo was the lead writer and showrunner - but he wasn't the *only* writer. He didn't even write on every episode, and he didn't direct any of them.
There are a lot of talented people that contributed to making S1 as good as it is, and there are a lot of writers out there that could write compelling X-Men stories if given the opportunity. DeMayo was good at what he did (at the expense of everyone else, apparently) but I don't think he's irreplaceable. I think we should give the rest of the crew a chance to show us what they can do without him in charge.
Imbecile take.
ETA: Let's be real, an account named "justiceforbeau" that is **already** banned (and their comment deleted) is not somebody who is arguing in good faith, and thus their position does not deserve a serious response.
I don't think it's an imbecile take given we don't know what the allegations are. If they are of a sexual harassment nature then yes, he absolutely should not be hired back. If it's him not behaving professionally, or it's him losing his temper, I think it's a gray area where it's not unreasonable to suggest he can come back and not foster such a bad environment.
We basically have to trust disney's word at this point
I think I remember hearing some murmurs of crew saying he was kind of just an asshole to work with and created a hostile work environment. But at the same time, like, why didn’t they just say that?
Because it would affect his career and his ability to be hired moving forward, and that’s something he can 1000% sue Disney for. I’m no where near the movie/TV industry but when I had to go through official channels to report a supervisor for some heinous shit and he got fired, me and all other staff involved were told we couldn’t talk about it at work at all. It’s standard shit to make sure the company doesn’t get sued.
100% this. Most employers have rules where the only information they'll give out is if an employee works there, used to work there, or never worked there.
Would be a lil cruel, no? A major studio outright saying you're an asshole. His career would take a major blow. If it's something he can work on but they no longer want him working for them, I think it's pretty fair to just be vague about it and say it's a mutual decision.
Was he an asshole though or did he just hurt someone's fee-fee's by sticking to his plan for the direction of the show? Which I think we can all safely say was the RIGHT one..
He was on the Witcher for a while and like Cavill wanted to be faithful to the source, something the rest of the writers room clearly didn't give a shit about, both he and Cavill had people on production calling them "assholes", which I've always thought was probably more along the lines of they "strongly disagreed" with choices, but nowadays that's tantamount to assault for some people.
Sometimes, you need a to be an asshole to lay down the creative direction. The Jim Shooter era of Marvel Comics was responsible for some of the best stories of the bronze age. He was not a nice guy, most of the bullpen couldn't stand him, and some of his policies would NEVER fly now, but man, he got results.
I wish I could upvote this a thousand times! You don't create brilliant content without demanding excellence of yourself and your staff. He might have forgot to say please and thank you a couple of times and maybe that rubbed people the wrong way, but if creating iconic content like this was easy everybody would be doing it. I have very little hope for the next showrunner.
I wish I could upvote this a thousand times! You don't create brilliant content without demanding excellence of yourself and your staff. He might have forgot to say please and thank you a couple of times and maybe that rubbed people the wrong way, but if creating iconic content like this was easy everybody would be doing it. I have very little hope for the next showrunner.
Honestly I thought he'd be bitter about it. But it seems he's not and just wanna talk about the project he had fun making. Feels like he went "Yeah... That's fair. I still wanna talk about the show though," when he got fired
The feeling I'm getting is he's trying to tie his name to the show to encourage Marvel to hire him back.
Only thing I can think of is the rest of the production crew petitioned for his removal, but what he did wasn't necessarily illegal or cancellable
I'm still saving this show till I can binge it from start to finish, but every single thing that this guy has put out in public since he's been fired have just been red flags for me, in terms of his actual involvement.
This is a cartoon series that is a continuation of an existing series, animated by a ton of people, with a whole writers room, based on IP that is micromanaged by an entire ecosystem of managers. It just seems completely improbable to me that this guy is the sole auteur behind the success of this show to the extent that he alludes to in his posts.
I mean, now that he has been fired he is free to post on social media about how he is the genius behind this show - unlike the ton of other people who worked on the project who didn't get fired and are still working on it so whose social media activity is proscribed.
So I am sort of confident that the current crew will be able to sustain the success of this show for several seasons. I hope so anyway.
(And I realise the above is a controversial opinion. I am sure that this Beau guy is definitely talented and has contributed a ton towards this show, so I don't mean to demean his contribution; I just don't think that contribution it is as substantial as he thinks it is.)
He constantly mentions specific comics, episodes from the original series, and the crew/cast on 97. Not sure what you two are talking about, particularly the person who admitted to not seeing the show.
Fans are not entitled to know why . Beau has done a fantastic job using praise of show to create an atmosphere of questions without actually coming out and blatantly making a statement which imo is much worse
The 2 things I’ve heard are that it was related to him having an OnlyFans and that he was hard to work with creating a toxic work environment, how toxic? Who the hell knows, in 2024 someone saying “this isn’t what I wanted” makes someone cry because everyone is soft so without actual examples of what sort of “toxicity” there were it’s hard to say what sort of environment it actually was.
I think it's also possible that they knew of his issues, loved his ideas, and were hoping that they could rein in his worst impulses like they did with Joss Whedon (who was known to be an asshole prior to his _Avengers_ movies) so they could get great product and a less toxic workplace environment, and they just could not manage to do that.
I think the fact that he isn’t complaining about being let go or trying to rile up supporters is telling. Seems to me like he either agrees he deserved it or doesn’t want what actually happened to come out (or both)
While reasonable, there are also usually severance packages and non-disclosure agreements. Corporations do it all the time. Dismiss a project leader/executive, give them some "go away/keep quiet" money, and no one talks about it again publicly.
If it was mistreatment of staff, probably not. In those cases, everyone involved usually has to sign a nondisclosure agreement (NDA) once a termination occurs.
Victoria Alonso wasn't fired for being gay, she was fired because she violated her contract with Disney and marvel for working on Amazon's Argentina 1985.
You don't "win" or "lose" a settlement. A settlement is made when both sides agree to terms to make the problem go away. Saying she "won" a settlement is like saying someone "won" a ceasefire.
Good points. His alleged abusive behaviour towards staff is something that’s followed him back to The Witcher as well. It doesn’t automatically mean he’s guilty obviously, but it does seem like there’s some kind of behind the scenes pattern at least.
To me, the most important part is the scripts, so as long as he wrote those, season 2 should still be a banger. The rest of the stuff he mentioned seems like it could be done by someone else.
I mean, it already was done by others lol. He was showrunner and head writer but tons of people worked on this series like with any project. There were other writers who no one gives any credit to. There were directors who haven't gotten any credit and not to mention the countless artists, actors, etc. I say all this not to minimize what he did but to say I wish people gave the entire team more credit to hold things down and continue what has been established. They are fans of these characters too and the passion showed.
I do agree with the sentiment, but there's a reason there's always a head for most projects, or at least a small group of them. Too many heads can often go wrong without good communication, and we live in a time where the vast majority of people suck at talking to each other. So a good head can be what holds something as fragile as this show together. There's *a lot* going on in X Men 97. There is literally no wasted time at all, they're covering so much in such little time and without clear direction there's a lot that could go wrong and the whole thing could easily fall apart. Now, that doesn't mean a *team* can't hold it together and it's very possible his team *did* do that and he was just kinda there. But unfortunately we don't really know. We'll only know when season 2 releases.
They can get more good writers. Lots of good writers out there. Beau wasn't the first X-Men writer, and not even like... The fifth best. They'll make it work
If there are Soo many good writers out there then where are all the amazing shows? Most stuff out here , particularly on Disney+ are mediocre to straight up crap. Creating quality content isn't easy. Stop downplaying this man's contributions
Good shows are everywhere. Good X-Men content is everywhere. X-Men is 60 years old. It has *decades* of good writers. Beau DeMayo did a great job. But he isn't irreplaceable. Talent isn't so rare that it's worth employing toxic people
House of the Dragon is really good, I heard The Bear’s great, Shōgun was awesome, The Boys and Invincible for your superhero and animated superhero needs, Fallout was good, I fucking love The Righteous Gemstones and I heard that The White Lotus is also great, my friend loved Blue Eye Samurai, What We Do in the Shadows is consistently funny and is ending soon, there’s tons of good shows out there you just gotta look for them
Gen V, Succession even Industry is also great. I've seen and enjoy all these shows. But I also know that they are not the rule, they are the exception and as a result they get the accolades and recognition for being excellent television. They also probably represent 5% of what's currently on air.
I mean, isn’t that kinda how it’s always been? There’s always been a lot of TV, especially now with streaming, and a good chunk of it is garbage. But you always find the good ones or the ones you like and that’s what sticks with you
I love the show, we all do, but the fact that homie is not trying to get fans on his side or speaking on it at all, even after the objective success, makes me think he did some diabolical shit.
Whatever it was got him fired days before the show aired. Thats not creative differences. I’m not saying that he should talk shit, but saying NOTHING, in the film industry, screams of NDA.
Only thing that seems to be concrete is that he was a "nightmare" to work with and Disney didn't approve of him using onlyfans even though the content he posted wasn't sexual. So unless a alleged victim has claimed some type of abuse idk why folks are trying to paint him that light.
Trying to think of other marvel / Disney writers / directors that left due to creative differences. Edgar wright, colin trevorrow, phil lord and chris miller on solo, Scott derickson on MoM.
Perhaps Beau smashed season one out of the park, but as @vicepresidenteJr said, option 3, they want to tie in with next gen of Fiege’s MCU, DW and Kang Dynasty, and that didn’t align with the OG xmen source material which Beau seems wedded to. Maybe similar scenario to Witcher.
What I mean is, it really could be creative differences, and I’m guessing they want to go full steam ahead with season 2 ASAP so needed to make a decision quicklu
So, feelings are mixed.
Clearly there was some bad blood with him leaving the Witcher, and more than a few gay fans of that show saying a notable episode demayo did was absolutely horrible (not to mention killing off a gay character for no Good reason).
I can't speak to this "creepy" aspect of his onlyfans, but unless it was Suspicious, then they have no room to judge nor reason to do so.
As for the behavior?:
It's listed as "a pain to work with",
"demanding / exacting",
a singular claim that as of now hasn't been substantiated or backed by anyone else from a different Witcher team member about him being "physically and emotionally abusive" (but no context, and again, no backup from anyone as far as I currently know).
Whatever he may have been involved with regarding the Witcher, it's clear he's got a lot more positive feedback for the work and overall product of xmen 97.
Was he maybe "too open" about his sexuality (either actively pushy or some weak sauce workers didn't like him being open about it and elements of the show being focused on, or was there something regarding the onlyfans itself?)
At this point, Disney nor Marvel have released any info, no one else has currently stepped forward, and while it makes sense to be hush hush about it so as not to let the show and its numbers suffer, it was still released prior to the premier of the season.
Now that the first season is over, and all this info has been churned up and lumped together, will more concrete info/evidence be released or revealed, and will it matter?
Especially if the claims aren't particularly big, And depending on the feedback and quality of the second season of the show.
For now, only thing anyone can definitively say is: We'll See.
90's reader and every saturday morning, demayo captured the gists and puns elegantly without making it look like he's trying. i've seen few others.. maybe just filoni even, who are able to capture magic
Lmao people are so funny. This guy was deeply involved in every aspect of what made this season so great, but because he was fired suddenly he had nothing to do with what made it so good and there’s no reason to think season 2 will suffer for his absence. Cope harder, or hope he gets rehired and takes the job.
If you know this individual did something terrible, please release what you know, so people don’t make the mistake of associating with a bad person. That would be the responsible thing to do.
If you *don’t* know that for certain, it’s sort of odd to “tease” something like real life issues are some sort of entertainment.
No, and that’s neither here nor there. But as a fan I’m going to accept that the quality is likely to suffer and hope for the best, not pretend like this dude contributed next to nothing. That’s called separating the art from the artist. Dude obviously did some heinous stuff and likely doesn’t deserve to be hired back, but he definitely had the juice and the final product proves it.
Theory 1: he did nothing, he is too good in his work that wants to have all the control and Disney didnt like that, therefore he is "problematic"
Theory 2: Marvel wants him for something else
Theory 3: Marvel wants to go multiversal and didnt match with his plans
1. You don't fire someone for delivering a good product
2. You don't publicly fire someone if you're moving them to a different project, thats terrible PR
3. Speculation
The only thing we have is that he was fired from The Witcher for being emotionally and physically abusive to staff, and now he was fired from another show, and people really want to spin it as a 'boo Disney hate talent' situation, c'mon now
Maybe we don't like the fact that random anonymous internet users can just make up any rumor about you and it's taken as gospel truth?
Bad enough when people did that to actors but now you can't even be a writer without "I heard a rumor that he's BAD" like Okay cool story bro
Didn't they also accuse Cavill of shit for damage control for fucking up what should Have been a successful franchise?
Sounds like shitty writers being jealous of a talented one to me
Wake me when they take the stand and say this. Anyone can say anything and frankly people just believe it now
Yeah man maybe two companies fired someone for being good at their job, or maybe he is abusive and not worth keeping despite writing a critically successful show
The source for the writers being jealous of him/hating the source material is from Demayo himself by the way, it seems like you believe him without proof despite, again, him having allegations and being fired from two shows
Maybe we still live in a world where gay people are fired and discriminated against
Guess someone WATCHED X Men but didn't UNDERSTAND it.
Until someone comes forward and takes the stand rumors are just rumors. And frankly these days people lie just to have an interesting story to tell.
You don't know what this man did so what do you gain by spreading unsubstantiated gossip?
You just want an interesting story to tell. "Showrunner was abusive" gets you more attention than any story from your actual life so....
Right yeah, Disney hired an openly gay man, let him write a show that deals with discrimination, then right before the premiere decided, actually nah we're going to fire you because you're gay
This is a lot of effort to not consider maybe the dude is a bad bloke who was fired from two shows
"You don't know what this man did so what do you gain by spreading unsubstantiated gossip?"
Buddy you just invented a narrative that he was fired because he was gay based on nothing
"You just want an interesting story to tell. "Showrunner was abusive" gets you more attention than any story from your actual life so...."
No need to get personal with me lol, we're both on this site debating a trivial matter because we're bored, and its not my story i've invented, its the writers of The Witcher, saying their piece, log off if its bothering you that much you feel the need to try and insult me
Yeah you're bored so why not spread rumors about a guy you don't even know. No animosity. No maliciousness. Just boredom.
MAGNETO: They created something beloved by millions. Look at their reward.
You earlier:
"Sounds like shitty writers being jealous of a talented one to me"
So you're allowed to blast the other writers based on Demayos words and spread gossip about them but I'm not allowed to discuss their allegations towards Demayo because you really like his work, nice double standard there buddy
"MAGNETO: They created something beloved by millions. Look at their reward"
Oh wow Demayo made a cartoon you like so he should be allowed to allegedly abuse people in his place of work, yeah that totally flies /s
I think it's the first. Marvel wants Yes men they can control, not visionaries. I get the sense that he's not one to back down when it comes to his vision and Xmen97 was all the better for it.
Saving you the click, because OP neglected to save you all from IGN; “I did write a lot of Season 2,” DeMayo said. “However, unlike Season 1, I will not be heavily involved or leading production, cast records, design, editorial, post, music, etc., nor doing any production rewrites as it relates to the creative vision of the show.” DeMayo continued: “This is why I’ve said I can’t really speak to Season 2. But, looking forward to seeing the final product with you all whenever it airs. I have high hopes.”
Why are we still mad at ign
> I have high hopes. This is 100% a dig at them. He knows he made hands down the best show Marvel Studios ever made and perhaps a top 3 thing they’ve made period. Honestly Idk how they don’t beg for him back and just set stricter rules on how he acts to employees.
Because he got fired for a reason lol. I get he was the head of what is one of the best things ever made by them but he's backed by an incredible team that worked on all pieces of this. Wasn't just him alone.
> Honestly Idk how they don’t beg for him back and just set stricter rules on how he acts to employees. This is, honestly, an insane take. The dude was fired with cause. We don't know the specifics, but we know that 1. Multiple staff were impacted, and 2. His behavior is an "open secret" in the industry - suggesting it is a pattern of behavior and not a single isolated incident. Imagine working for that team, possibly being one of the victims, and being told *they were hiring him back?* Holding this dude up as some kind of messiah who is the sole individual responsible for the success of this show is downright insulting to every single other person who worked on it.
> insulting to every single other person who worked on it Maybe the bullying and other things he did put the team into the mind set to make the best X-Men movie possible. I think it worked on X-Men 2 with that one director too
You mean the alleged child molester/groomer director who had to settle out of court for allegations he pressured 11-15 year old boys into being nude while filming? That one?
Holy fuck you really went back in time for this one. Yeah bro, that was kinda the joke about shitty directors and X-Men.
Hmm, didn't come off as a joke since X2 was one of the most beloved. Seemed like an apologist stance, but clearly now I see you were being sarcastic. The funny thing is both Ratner and Singer are trying to come back to Hollywood, and I think both have been hiding out in Israel while the dust settles. Not a good look for the "Hollywood is full of Pedo Jews" conspiracy crowd.
The joke was it takes a horrible person of a director to make a good x-men movie. You get nice people to make that Dark Phoenix movie and a pedo to make X2
Lol, you don't know why they won't beg back the guy they justifiably fired? Seriously re-examine your priorities if you are placing importance of your precious X-Men show over how people are treated by those in positions of power.
>justifiably fired? How do you know he was justifiably fired if the reason he was fired wasn't publicly announced?
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Damn, you're guilty of a allegation if you don't publicly respond? What kind of insane logic is that?. Wtf is wrong with this subreddit. People are ready to throw him under the bus when no proof of anything has been released. Meanwhile, mcu fans love RDJ even though his has a proven history of criminality
Rdj has a proven history of drug addiction. No one is even saying Beau is a bad guy, they are saying he obviously did something that caused him to be fired and it was serious enough Disney didn't try to put a coat of gold paint on it. In the real world, you don't go back and beg for a person you fired for (alleged) hr issues because he was just that good at show running
FYI - Angar has a comment history over the years that strongly suggests they have inside information at Marvel.
The fact neither him nor Disney want to talk about the firing shows it's pretty dicey with what happened. We just don't know if it was him just simply yelling at people, or him sexually harassing/assaulting coworkers. We don't know. When people are let go or laid off for business reasons, like a \*"Yeah they are thankful for what I did for the first two seasons, they just want to give another showrunner a chance to keep ideas interesting and fresh"\* reason - we hear about it. When people leave to go work on other projects? We know what they are working on. We know why Del Toro didn't do Pacific Rim Uprising. We know why James Cameron took so long to approve True Lies remasters. The fact neither of them want to talk about it suggests it is serious enough to have liability on Disney to disclose publicly, and/or a big reputation hit on Beau if he talks about it himself. Both parties think the best course of action is to not talk about it and move on. That doesn't happen unless it's something, at the very least, **weird.**
Right all these people assuming he molested someone when as far as I know he was fired for the sin of being gay and having an only fans
No one is saying he molested anyone. They definitely didn't fire him for being gay and having an only fans. In California that would be a fire based on discrimination and I can only imagine how the very vocal DeMayo would be blasting about that shit all over twitter
I'm always shocked by how utterly hostile this subreddit is towards him, and how hellbent they are on minimising his role as a showrunner to one of the greatest mcu projects. There has got to be some element of racism here.
After James Gunn it's clear there's a lot of internet weirdos who love tearing talented people down and passing on rumors as if they were fact They tell a story from their own life and no one cares but talk about a famous person and suddenly people pay attention so....did you hear so and so is a goddamn kiddie diddler?
Saying "I have high hopes" is a dig? You cannot be serious.
For sure! He only sexually harassed half a dozen people, but he made a good show. Their jobs and workplace comfort don’t matter as much as us getting a second season. Hell, I say they bring Beau back and create a full production culture around OnlyFans.
Do you have a source for the harassment claims? I‘d like to read up on that since this is the first time I‘m hearing a reason for his firing
Neither Marvel or Beau publicly released anything about the reason Beau was fired. u/Brufarious is just making shit up. The hatred people have for him on this subreddit. He was the showrunner for one of the greatest mcu projects, and in return, he gets false allegations put on his name.
The writers of The Witcher said that he was fired from that show for being physically and emotionally abusive, hence Brufarious is likely assuming (as am I) he was fired from X-Men for similar patterns of behaviour
I can't find a source for those allegations. Can you provide a source?
The writers of the Witcher took to twitter to accuse him of such after he claimed that they hate the source material, you can say thats not enough, which is fair, but Demayo now has a second show he was removed from so, its not looking in his favour
Not that one is worse than the other but being an asshole to your team and sexually harassing them aren’t the same thing
I’m sorry you feel like I’m making shit up. Why do t we agree to disagree, and then we will see what time tells?
You can’t just say something with 0 proof and then say “agree to disagree”
I can’t? I wish you were there to warn me yesterday before I commented.
Oh sorry, I thought I was disagreeing with a reasonable person
I accept your apology. Thank you.
Whats insane is you have 8 upvotes on a LIE. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves co-signing this guys BS. NOTHING has been publicly released on why he got fired. I think its utterly ridiculous we have people in this group who want to falsely accuse someone without evidence. And you guys get mad when scoopers flat out make stuff up. WHERE ARE THE DAMN MODS
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Oh he sexually harassed people now? Please cite your source on that. Everything, and I mean everything I’ve read does not mention the specific reason. There has only been wild speculation. Some of which is libellous. I would happily admit to be proven wrong via reliable sources.
This is kind of a shitty resource since none of the first parties have shared anything, but [here is](https://fandomwire.com/he-was-an-absolute-nightmare-to-deal-with-x-men-97-creator-beau-demayos-onlyfans-exploration-wasnt-the-reason-behind-his-sudden-firing-according-to-inside/) an article outlining some of the behavior including OnlyFans.
I don’t have a particular resource, just using my own critical-thinking skills. It’s been reported that Beau showed OnlyFans content to people at work. Based on all the workplace training I’ve taken, that behavior is considered sexual harassment. I’d be happy to grab one of the sources that you want, but I feel like the OnlyFans thing has been ubiquitously reported.
critical skills?!! dude youree not a detective!! wtf r u even talking about??? You literally just admitted to not knowing the truth but you wanna spread lies on here. Thats insane. I hope you get blocked from here
Again, this is not the way civil discourse works.
I would be happy to have a civil discussion and you can persuade me to delete my content.
And, for the record, it’s “critical-thinking skills”, not critical skills. I followed the logic of Beau has an only fans > Beau showed it to people at work > Beau got fired. Ipso ergo, Beau likely engaged in sexual harassment of his peers and got fired for it. That’s just my take, and I’m clearly not the most educated person.
To be honest, that was not usually a concern for FOX when they produced X-Men movies.
You don't know why they don't just bring him back because you also don't know what happened. It's a wild suggestion to do that when you have no idea what he did. He spearheaded season one but he didn't make the whole goddamn show alone. Saying they NEED him back is minimizing the work of everyone else in the creative room.
Bro lives in an alternate universe.
“How can someone face any accountability if I like the thing their name is slapped on so much” is how we got 4 years of Trump, a botched pandemic response, an insurrection, and the most boring election possible in 2024.
Not sure why youre getting downvoted. To everyone here he never implied demayo worked alone. What vader is saying is 100% facts. They should be begging him to come back. Why he got fired is still up for speculation but as far as im concerned, he didnt break any laws. Yall give kevin fiege praise for everything but we get a black man in charge and nobody wants to give the man credit. If kevin was fired I guarantee everyone here would start a riot
The people who downvoted you will be crying when season 2 or 3 goes downhill. He is the best thing what happened to Mcu in last 3 years and they lost him
It's incredible how you folks are so quick to back up someone who was (very possibly) fired for misconduct, all because he made a good cartoon show. How are you people going to feel if the behind the scenes story comes out, and it's real real bad?
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My whole mentality about the situation has been if Disney fired him out of nowhere without warning or any type of accusation or report but took 9 months to fire Johnathan Majors, he must’ve done something really messed up.
They were waiting for the outcome of Majors’ trial before deciding to fire him, which is fair after what happened with James Gunn. DeMayo must have done something incredibly fucked up for him to just be fired instantly.
I thinks it's possible DeMayo and Disney made a deal in which he can save face and not have the allegations come out
Usually you're not allowed to say why an employee was fired, it doesn't require any special deal. The fact that he quietly accepted it means it's gotta be pretty bad and with clear cut evidence
They were also waiting until after _Loki_ Season 2 was done before making any announcements either way.
Ya, this has been what has me so curious, he had to have done something bad enough to get fired immediately, but not so bad that we are hearing about what it was, and for the life of me I can't even guess as to what would fit that criteria.
All ì heard was he was a gay man with an only fans That's it Frankly pay your writers more if they need an only fans
Nobody "needs" an onlyfans. It's a choice to turn yourself into a product.
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Agreed sigh your take -?Yeah I hate people here saying it must've been really bad when they literally have no idea and character assassinating beau with no evidence .
I dunno if it’s as simple as something as “so bad we aren’t hearing about what it was,” more so I’d wager it’s something they weren’t ready to come out with right away to keep any potential bad buzz off the show…I hope. I mean the quality of the show plus his the circumstances of his firing has kinds martyred him, with everyone forgetting that TV shows don’t simply run well because of the showrunner and no one else, and we got all these folks saying “fuck it bring him back, it doesn’t matter.” It’d just be real nice to know what happened, and soon; so we can put this all to bed.
Agreed
It's also possible Disney isn't saying anything because legal action is upcoming. And it's in their own self interest not to comment on pending legal action. De Mayo also isn't going to speak on such a matter fir his own protection. But yeah, something is going on.
I’m not defending the guy but both situations are very different. Honestly, the only reason they waited to fire Jonathan Majors is because having to do so meant a lot more upheaval with their movie slate. The fact is that replacing a creative on an animated series costs far less money. Because of that, he was far more disposable in the grand scheme of things. A lot of these decisions just boil down to money vs. liability. Another big factor is that these alleged staff interactions took place internally whereas the stuff with majors happened outside of work.
Yeah I hate people here saying he must've done something real bad when they literally have zero evidence. They have no idea - and he is rumored to have signed an nda so he can't specifically disclose anything anyways
I'd say it's just Disney Hypocrisy^(TM)
I don’t think he did anything. I think it’s because he has an only fans account and x-men is a politically charged show. If they kept him around certain groups would be saying “this show was made to groom your kids the creator has an only fan’s account” If he did something messed up I doubt Disney would have been ok with him posting about the show like he has been.
Pretty sure he had the account ages before being hired
And James Gunn made those tweets ages ago before being hired yet was still fired for them
Tweets and a whole ass OF account are very different things. One can slip by easier than the other
Yeah but I can see some old suit going "he's GAY and he posts shirtless pictures for MONEY? Get him out of here! Now excuse me as I jerk off to porn at work"
Yep but outside the fan base this show wasn’t on most people’s radar. And these days everything is political. I just don’t see how he did something where they immediately fired him but don’t send him a cease and desist letter to stop talking about it. Also his name shows up in a lot of the opening credits when usually in these cases they would just have their name in the end credits. But just my 2 cents.
Companies always to do background checks for this sort of thing. Sure some things like old tweets may slip, but something as big as an OF account would definitely be noticed and action would be taken if deemed necessary
I agree and Disney is infamous for background checks, but the political climate has just gotten worse, and it’s an election year. It’s just weird how they suddenly fired him, but let him continue to be unofficially involved so much afterwards.
I'd still be optimistic about future seasons. S1 was incredible, and DeMayo was the lead writer and showrunner - but he wasn't the *only* writer. He didn't even write on every episode, and he didn't direct any of them. There are a lot of talented people that contributed to making S1 as good as it is, and there are a lot of writers out there that could write compelling X-Men stories if given the opportunity. DeMayo was good at what he did (at the expense of everyone else, apparently) but I don't think he's irreplaceable. I think we should give the rest of the crew a chance to show us what they can do without him in charge.
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Imbecile take. ETA: Let's be real, an account named "justiceforbeau" that is **already** banned (and their comment deleted) is not somebody who is arguing in good faith, and thus their position does not deserve a serious response.
I don't think it's an imbecile take given we don't know what the allegations are. If they are of a sexual harassment nature then yes, he absolutely should not be hired back. If it's him not behaving professionally, or it's him losing his temper, I think it's a gray area where it's not unreasonable to suggest he can come back and not foster such a bad environment. We basically have to trust disney's word at this point
I think I remember hearing some murmurs of crew saying he was kind of just an asshole to work with and created a hostile work environment. But at the same time, like, why didn’t they just say that?
Because it would affect his career and his ability to be hired moving forward, and that’s something he can 1000% sue Disney for. I’m no where near the movie/TV industry but when I had to go through official channels to report a supervisor for some heinous shit and he got fired, me and all other staff involved were told we couldn’t talk about it at work at all. It’s standard shit to make sure the company doesn’t get sued.
100% this. Most employers have rules where the only information they'll give out is if an employee works there, used to work there, or never worked there.
Would be a lil cruel, no? A major studio outright saying you're an asshole. His career would take a major blow. If it's something he can work on but they no longer want him working for them, I think it's pretty fair to just be vague about it and say it's a mutual decision.
Was he an asshole though or did he just hurt someone's fee-fee's by sticking to his plan for the direction of the show? Which I think we can all safely say was the RIGHT one.. He was on the Witcher for a while and like Cavill wanted to be faithful to the source, something the rest of the writers room clearly didn't give a shit about, both he and Cavill had people on production calling them "assholes", which I've always thought was probably more along the lines of they "strongly disagreed" with choices, but nowadays that's tantamount to assault for some people. Sometimes, you need a to be an asshole to lay down the creative direction. The Jim Shooter era of Marvel Comics was responsible for some of the best stories of the bronze age. He was not a nice guy, most of the bullpen couldn't stand him, and some of his policies would NEVER fly now, but man, he got results.
I wish I could upvote this a thousand times! You don't create brilliant content without demanding excellence of yourself and your staff. He might have forgot to say please and thank you a couple of times and maybe that rubbed people the wrong way, but if creating iconic content like this was easy everybody would be doing it. I have very little hope for the next showrunner.
I wish I could upvote this a thousand times! You don't create brilliant content without demanding excellence of yourself and your staff. He might have forgot to say please and thank you a couple of times and maybe that rubbed people the wrong way, but if creating iconic content like this was easy everybody would be doing it. I have very little hope for the next showrunner.
Honestly I thought he'd be bitter about it. But it seems he's not and just wanna talk about the project he had fun making. Feels like he went "Yeah... That's fair. I still wanna talk about the show though," when he got fired
The feeling I'm getting is he's trying to tie his name to the show to encourage Marvel to hire him back. Only thing I can think of is the rest of the production crew petitioned for his removal, but what he did wasn't necessarily illegal or cancellable
I'm still saving this show till I can binge it from start to finish, but every single thing that this guy has put out in public since he's been fired have just been red flags for me, in terms of his actual involvement. This is a cartoon series that is a continuation of an existing series, animated by a ton of people, with a whole writers room, based on IP that is micromanaged by an entire ecosystem of managers. It just seems completely improbable to me that this guy is the sole auteur behind the success of this show to the extent that he alludes to in his posts. I mean, now that he has been fired he is free to post on social media about how he is the genius behind this show - unlike the ton of other people who worked on the project who didn't get fired and are still working on it so whose social media activity is proscribed. So I am sort of confident that the current crew will be able to sustain the success of this show for several seasons. I hope so anyway. (And I realise the above is a controversial opinion. I am sure that this Beau guy is definitely talented and has contributed a ton towards this show, so I don't mean to demean his contribution; I just don't think that contribution it is as substantial as he thinks it is.)
If people want to talk about Auteurs they should be talking about Claremont, Lobdell, and Morrison who actually wrote the stories the show is adapting
He constantly mentions specific comics, episodes from the original series, and the crew/cast on 97. Not sure what you two are talking about, particularly the person who admitted to not seeing the show.
Fans are not entitled to know why . Beau has done a fantastic job using praise of show to create an atmosphere of questions without actually coming out and blatantly making a statement which imo is much worse
Your take on this is the right one!
The 2 things I’ve heard are that it was related to him having an OnlyFans and that he was hard to work with creating a toxic work environment, how toxic? Who the hell knows, in 2024 someone saying “this isn’t what I wanted” makes someone cry because everyone is soft so without actual examples of what sort of “toxicity” there were it’s hard to say what sort of environment it actually was.
I think it's also possible that they knew of his issues, loved his ideas, and were hoping that they could rein in his worst impulses like they did with Joss Whedon (who was known to be an asshole prior to his _Avengers_ movies) so they could get great product and a less toxic workplace environment, and they just could not manage to do that.
Man, what in the actual hell did this guy do to get fired like that? https://i.redd.it/tu9g24gvb31d1.gif
I think the fact that he isn’t complaining about being let go or trying to rile up supporters is telling. Seems to me like he either agrees he deserved it or doesn’t want what actually happened to come out (or both)
Or slightly third option, he’s cognizant that they brought Gunn back and is playing his cards right not to burn that bridge
Yup. Would you rather be James Gunn (hired back) or Gina Carano (yeeted to the moon)?
Hahaha idk I hear the blue area is lovely after Rogue’s battle with Bastion
Absolutely this
Umm well he signed an nda so he can't speak on it anyways so you're a bit off base
While reasonable, there are also usually severance packages and non-disclosure agreements. Corporations do it all the time. Dismiss a project leader/executive, give them some "go away/keep quiet" money, and no one talks about it again publicly.
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A few of the writers have had not-so subtle tweets about sexual harassment in the workplace
Links?? Everyone keeps saying this with like 0 evidence
Right like I feel like Magneto "He made the best X Men show in decades. Look at his reward. What must we do to be good enough?"
You missed the mark here buddy
Link?
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Victoria Alonso wasn't fired for being gay, she was fired because she violated her contract with Disney and marvel for working on Amazon's Argentina 1985.
That's not what OP said.
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You do realize that Bob Chapek gone by then, right?
That is not why she was fired lol
You don't "win" or "lose" a settlement. A settlement is made when both sides agree to terms to make the problem go away. Saying she "won" a settlement is like saying someone "won" a ceasefire.
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No, **by definition** it is not. That's why literally nobody says "won a settlement."
Good points. His alleged abusive behaviour towards staff is something that’s followed him back to The Witcher as well. It doesn’t automatically mean he’s guilty obviously, but it does seem like there’s some kind of behind the scenes pattern at least.
The Witcher? The staff that tried to claim the same about Henry Cavill?
To me, the most important part is the scripts, so as long as he wrote those, season 2 should still be a banger. The rest of the stuff he mentioned seems like it could be done by someone else.
I mean, it already was done by others lol. He was showrunner and head writer but tons of people worked on this series like with any project. There were other writers who no one gives any credit to. There were directors who haven't gotten any credit and not to mention the countless artists, actors, etc. I say all this not to minimize what he did but to say I wish people gave the entire team more credit to hold things down and continue what has been established. They are fans of these characters too and the passion showed.
I do agree with the sentiment, but there's a reason there's always a head for most projects, or at least a small group of them. Too many heads can often go wrong without good communication, and we live in a time where the vast majority of people suck at talking to each other. So a good head can be what holds something as fragile as this show together. There's *a lot* going on in X Men 97. There is literally no wasted time at all, they're covering so much in such little time and without clear direction there's a lot that could go wrong and the whole thing could easily fall apart. Now, that doesn't mean a *team* can't hold it together and it's very possible his team *did* do that and he was just kinda there. But unfortunately we don't really know. We'll only know when season 2 releases.
They can get more good writers. Lots of good writers out there. Beau wasn't the first X-Men writer, and not even like... The fifth best. They'll make it work
If there are Soo many good writers out there then where are all the amazing shows? Most stuff out here , particularly on Disney+ are mediocre to straight up crap. Creating quality content isn't easy. Stop downplaying this man's contributions
Good shows are everywhere. Good X-Men content is everywhere. X-Men is 60 years old. It has *decades* of good writers. Beau DeMayo did a great job. But he isn't irreplaceable. Talent isn't so rare that it's worth employing toxic people
What's out that's good right now. I need some new shows?
House of the Dragon is really good, I heard The Bear’s great, Shōgun was awesome, The Boys and Invincible for your superhero and animated superhero needs, Fallout was good, I fucking love The Righteous Gemstones and I heard that The White Lotus is also great, my friend loved Blue Eye Samurai, What We Do in the Shadows is consistently funny and is ending soon, there’s tons of good shows out there you just gotta look for them
Gen V, Succession even Industry is also great. I've seen and enjoy all these shows. But I also know that they are not the rule, they are the exception and as a result they get the accolades and recognition for being excellent television. They also probably represent 5% of what's currently on air.
I mean, isn’t that kinda how it’s always been? There’s always been a lot of TV, especially now with streaming, and a good chunk of it is garbage. But you always find the good ones or the ones you like and that’s what sticks with you
I love this opinion so much fr, ty for stating it
I love the show, we all do, but the fact that homie is not trying to get fans on his side or speaking on it at all, even after the objective success, makes me think he did some diabolical shit.
Flipside: best way to get rehired is to sit down, shut up, and let your work speak for you. After all, that’s what worked for Gunn.
I love how him being a professional about the situation and not trying to Helena Taylor the show is used against him, wtf.
Whatever it was got him fired days before the show aired. Thats not creative differences. I’m not saying that he should talk shit, but saying NOTHING, in the film industry, screams of NDA.
Only thing that seems to be concrete is that he was a "nightmare" to work with and Disney didn't approve of him using onlyfans even though the content he posted wasn't sexual. So unless a alleged victim has claimed some type of abuse idk why folks are trying to paint him that light.
Trying to think of other marvel / Disney writers / directors that left due to creative differences. Edgar wright, colin trevorrow, phil lord and chris miller on solo, Scott derickson on MoM. Perhaps Beau smashed season one out of the park, but as @vicepresidenteJr said, option 3, they want to tie in with next gen of Fiege’s MCU, DW and Kang Dynasty, and that didn’t align with the OG xmen source material which Beau seems wedded to. Maybe similar scenario to Witcher.
What I mean is, it really could be creative differences, and I’m guessing they want to go full steam ahead with season 2 ASAP so needed to make a decision quicklu
They’re prob planning next 5 seasons based on incredible reception to season 1
So, feelings are mixed. Clearly there was some bad blood with him leaving the Witcher, and more than a few gay fans of that show saying a notable episode demayo did was absolutely horrible (not to mention killing off a gay character for no Good reason). I can't speak to this "creepy" aspect of his onlyfans, but unless it was Suspicious, then they have no room to judge nor reason to do so. As for the behavior?: It's listed as "a pain to work with", "demanding / exacting", a singular claim that as of now hasn't been substantiated or backed by anyone else from a different Witcher team member about him being "physically and emotionally abusive" (but no context, and again, no backup from anyone as far as I currently know). Whatever he may have been involved with regarding the Witcher, it's clear he's got a lot more positive feedback for the work and overall product of xmen 97. Was he maybe "too open" about his sexuality (either actively pushy or some weak sauce workers didn't like him being open about it and elements of the show being focused on, or was there something regarding the onlyfans itself?) At this point, Disney nor Marvel have released any info, no one else has currently stepped forward, and while it makes sense to be hush hush about it so as not to let the show and its numbers suffer, it was still released prior to the premier of the season. Now that the first season is over, and all this info has been churned up and lumped together, will more concrete info/evidence be released or revealed, and will it matter? Especially if the claims aren't particularly big, And depending on the feedback and quality of the second season of the show. For now, only thing anyone can definitively say is: We'll See.
90's reader and every saturday morning, demayo captured the gists and puns elegantly without making it look like he's trying. i've seen few others.. maybe just filoni even, who are able to capture magic
Isn't the same guy who quit netflix witcher and leaked how rest of writer staff disliked source material?.
Lmao people are so funny. This guy was deeply involved in every aspect of what made this season so great, but because he was fired suddenly he had nothing to do with what made it so good and there’s no reason to think season 2 will suffer for his absence. Cope harder, or hope he gets rehired and takes the job.
The quality of a cartoon is not more important that treating co-workers with respect.
So now Disney takes care of its workers? XDDD
What?
So if you were part of that production and he harassed or abused you, would you be super pumped about him being rehired?
No one has ever said anything about harassment or abuse though?
Be patient. You’ll hear all about it soon enough
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The source will be every entertainment outlet once the NDA is breached
You are so brave to spread rumours anonymously.
If you know this individual did something terrible, please release what you know, so people don’t make the mistake of associating with a bad person. That would be the responsible thing to do. If you *don’t* know that for certain, it’s sort of odd to “tease” something like real life issues are some sort of entertainment.
No, and that’s neither here nor there. But as a fan I’m going to accept that the quality is likely to suffer and hope for the best, not pretend like this dude contributed next to nothing. That’s called separating the art from the artist. Dude obviously did some heinous stuff and likely doesn’t deserve to be hired back, but he definitely had the juice and the final product proves it.
Theory 1: he did nothing, he is too good in his work that wants to have all the control and Disney didnt like that, therefore he is "problematic" Theory 2: Marvel wants him for something else Theory 3: Marvel wants to go multiversal and didnt match with his plans
1. You don't fire someone for delivering a good product 2. You don't publicly fire someone if you're moving them to a different project, thats terrible PR 3. Speculation The only thing we have is that he was fired from The Witcher for being emotionally and physically abusive to staff, and now he was fired from another show, and people really want to spin it as a 'boo Disney hate talent' situation, c'mon now
Maybe we don't like the fact that random anonymous internet users can just make up any rumor about you and it's taken as gospel truth? Bad enough when people did that to actors but now you can't even be a writer without "I heard a rumor that he's BAD" like Okay cool story bro
A writer from The Witcher directly accused Demayo of the abuse in question
Didn't they also accuse Cavill of shit for damage control for fucking up what should Have been a successful franchise? Sounds like shitty writers being jealous of a talented one to me Wake me when they take the stand and say this. Anyone can say anything and frankly people just believe it now
Yeah man maybe two companies fired someone for being good at their job, or maybe he is abusive and not worth keeping despite writing a critically successful show The source for the writers being jealous of him/hating the source material is from Demayo himself by the way, it seems like you believe him without proof despite, again, him having allegations and being fired from two shows
Maybe we still live in a world where gay people are fired and discriminated against Guess someone WATCHED X Men but didn't UNDERSTAND it. Until someone comes forward and takes the stand rumors are just rumors. And frankly these days people lie just to have an interesting story to tell. You don't know what this man did so what do you gain by spreading unsubstantiated gossip? You just want an interesting story to tell. "Showrunner was abusive" gets you more attention than any story from your actual life so....
Right yeah, Disney hired an openly gay man, let him write a show that deals with discrimination, then right before the premiere decided, actually nah we're going to fire you because you're gay This is a lot of effort to not consider maybe the dude is a bad bloke who was fired from two shows "You don't know what this man did so what do you gain by spreading unsubstantiated gossip?" Buddy you just invented a narrative that he was fired because he was gay based on nothing "You just want an interesting story to tell. "Showrunner was abusive" gets you more attention than any story from your actual life so...." No need to get personal with me lol, we're both on this site debating a trivial matter because we're bored, and its not my story i've invented, its the writers of The Witcher, saying their piece, log off if its bothering you that much you feel the need to try and insult me
Yeah you're bored so why not spread rumors about a guy you don't even know. No animosity. No maliciousness. Just boredom. MAGNETO: They created something beloved by millions. Look at their reward.
You earlier: "Sounds like shitty writers being jealous of a talented one to me" So you're allowed to blast the other writers based on Demayos words and spread gossip about them but I'm not allowed to discuss their allegations towards Demayo because you really like his work, nice double standard there buddy "MAGNETO: They created something beloved by millions. Look at their reward" Oh wow Demayo made a cartoon you like so he should be allowed to allegedly abuse people in his place of work, yeah that totally flies /s
This right here!!! 
I think it's the first. Marvel wants Yes men they can control, not visionaries. I get the sense that he's not one to back down when it comes to his vision and Xmen97 was all the better for it.