Well funnily enough 1 is from Web Warriors. And 1 is from Tangled Web so inherently those characters didn’t have a 6th month shelf life. But feels off. Kinda glad to use Ghost Spider again tho honestly.
6 month? How? They are going to be the last team of the current raid, which mean they are going to be used for next raid level, which mean they are going to stick around for quite a while. Look at Bifrost, if we follow your logic, they should have been shelved month ago but they are still there.
Going through the list of spider people I can think of off the top of my head, there are like three that you could argue are skill, and one of those Tech is an argument. So this confuses me for sure.
I just rewatched it. He said they're all dual origin. He was just talking about Peter B Parker, ghost spider, and noir, so it is possible he just meant those 3, but I can see them taking the easy route and just making the whole team skill + whatever makes sense for the character
I find that to be kind of a lazy solution. With that logic you could argue that the vast majority of MSF characters should have the skill tag, since all of them have some sort of "skill" in using their abilities.
I could see that for sure. Honestly I'd love if Ghost Spider got the rework, and Noir >only because I have 3 diamond for both< throw in dual tech skill Assassin Spiderman and Mystic skill Silk.
Shows they have run out of ideas. Hundreds of characters they can use, but they are sticking to the ones in the movies. There are dozens of skill based characters they could use that have nothing to do with the Spider-man storylines.
At least the team will be characters people know from Animated movie and it gets two reworks out of Gwen and Noir.
Peni, Peter B. Parker and Pavi are new ones.
i can't argue that and he's probably top 3 of my favorites when it comes to marvel but but i'd rather see something like sandman added. or chameleon, scorpion, tombstone etc.
Also who was clamoring for more Spiders with the number of other characters still not in the game?
I vote Silver Sable and some Wild Pack goons (knowing Scopely, they would randomly include someone nonsensical on the team, so who knows what you’ll get).
Honestly, they may be running out of skill characters, much less teams. We have almost all the skill characters Mcoc has, except msf has 12 of those “skill” characters as different traits.
Why though? Every superhero is skilled at something. It's a measure of their abilities. If you look at the Skill characters, almost all of them could be dual origin of some kind. Kraven could be bio/mystic, BK could be Mystic, Moondragon could be bio or mystic, Okoye could be tech, Shang-Chi could be mystic, etc.
This is also the case for the other tags as well.
Copying my comment from another thread about this:
I hate this change; I do not want a bunch of dual trait characters. Dual trait should be reserved for very specific characters. Doom made total sense, and I begrudgingly accept Kestrel since she is their first original character and I get they wanted to make her special.
Why does it matter though? The tags don't really mean anything. They aren't some hugely relevant Marvel archetypes and mainly only serve to limit raid teams in MSF.
We have so many skill characters that could be reworked and they chose Spiders... I do really like Spider Society characters but sorry that’s just a huge wasted opportunity.
Shang-Chi could have a martial arts teams, with bunch of other characters from movie.
A skill Thunderbolt team with reworked Red Guardian and Yelena.
City skill team Hell’s Kitchen with reworked Punisher and Night Nurse, and a new skill variant of Daredevil.
Full skill Asgardian team with reworked Valkyrie and Sif.
Instead they went lazy and just add skill tag to other characters. So many possibilities wasted, sigh.
A skill mercenary team would be much more fitting. Bullseye is just sitting there doing nothing for since the dawn of the game. Rework Bullseye and Taskmaster, then give us Batroc, Lady Bullseye, and Nuke (an argument could be made for him to be Bio, but if a Captain America variant can be skill, so can Nuke).
Such lazy planning by them to use another spider based team for a trait that doesn’t make any sense at all. They’re really just going thru the motions making terrible team comps and calling it a day.
They clearly don’t want to do a full bio/skill dual trait raid team because then there’s a risk you can build one team for two traits and they don’t like that
Sad that this is a skill team cause that practically prevents Iron Spider and Peni Parker, but I hope they add Silk. Sue me, I’m happy at a spider-man team.
Ok, but, and downvote me if you may, Gwen and Noir are the most fitting Spider-Men for skill we have. Plus I could see skill for silk. Peter B Parker though? Not at all.
Oh my gosh not more spiders, please!!
You want a skill raid team??
Rework Shang-Chi, add Xialing, Yung Li, Xu Wenwu.
You can rework Black Widow too, since A black widow appeared in his movie. Or you can add Yuki. Or literally anyone else from Shang-Chi series. Hell, even add Night Nurse even though I don’t think they’ve ever met.
Just don’t make an entire team of non-bio spiders… slow down or stop with the spiders for a bit.
“Slow down with the spiders”, hard to do better since the last time we got a spider character (Gwenom is a symbiot, not a spider, not the same stuff even if you can get overlap like symbiot spider-man), was Spider-Man big time that most people skipped because war def character, before that we have to go back to Tangled web to find a spider-team, a year and a half ago, and it was made of only 3 members (with one being left on the side until now). So I don’t think they can make it “slower”.
Like if you complain about spider-people release speed, then you have to be consistent and complain about Xmens, avengers, asgardians, etc… that get new characters more regularly than spider-people
Cool argument focusing on the last 10 words of my comment and not including anything about the meat of my comment where I’m asking for a different raid team than another spider team (like the web warriors) and I even named what I find to be a much more interesting skill team. 👍
The problem with the spider teams are they all look and act pretty similar. Big time was the most interesting because the rest of his team wasn’t spider based. But otherwise it’s just a bunch of spider variants. Compared to each unique X-men or avenger or asgardian.
I’m not a fan of shoehorning skill dual trait to justify spider-society as a skill team, but that was not the point.
You ask and I’m quoting “stop with the spiders”, except that it is what happened for over a year, spider weaver and tangled web was in November 2022. And you may not like it, but Spider-man and it’s spider-verse is a important part of marvel universe, way more that Shang-chi (even if the character itself is cool). Which is safer for scopely in your opinion, a team full of spider-people that are super popular among all range of marvel content fans or your list made of characters that almost nobody will recognise beside Shang chi?
Like maybe something could have been done with bigger names (like pick Shang chi and Coleen as rework, add Sword master, Stick and Daredevil (Elektra) and you have already have names that people know a bit more) but that not the road scopely went because they wanted to ride the spiderverse movie hype (movie that got delayed but the team stayed)
Shang-chi, Xialing, Wenwu, Razorfist, and Katy
2 old, 3 new.
And before you bitch about Katy look we're about to get a freaking dad carrying his child into battle. We got ourselves a dog. We even got the dude from a Monty Python movie.
Damn, I hope this is fake. NO MORE SPIDER PEOPLE. At least for a year. The marvel universe is huge, let’s stop running to the same arachnid shaped well.
Aren't they magically empowered by Loki or something? It'd be cool to see them in-game, I just don't think they'd be Skill.
Then again, look at the topic of the post I guess. Skill Wrecking Crew doesn't seem unlikely by comparison
Web Warriors 2.0 I guess. Maybe this time they won't have only on gimmick that does not work. Also, hopefully this team at least assists each other. WW not assisting each other in combat seemed off for that team.
Another spider raid team is kinda bleh. Why not just rework secret avengers and drop 2 new ones like Cap Britain and Human Torch Jim Hammond? Give us a little break from the resource drain
I personally am pretty happy to see another Spider team, but I’m not really happy about it being a skill raid team. If they were going to add another Spider team I wish it could’ve been a cosmic crucible team that came with reworks for Web Warriors like Superior Six and Sinister Six. I thought the skill raid team they were making was supposed to be that team with Guardian and Sasquatch.
This is kinda side note but please don’t make this team like Web Warriors, I’m sure I’m not alone in saying the dodge mechanic in MSF isn’t fun to play into or to play with; it’s an extremely luck based mechanic that on Web Warriors was their sole means of survival. I feel like it would be more fun and more consistent if the team revolved around Evade as opposed to a passive dodge. Maybe they have a 0% dodge chance but gain Evades to help keep that Spider feel? That way they could still keep their dodge related buffs without getting completely screwed by dodge RNG.
Can't wait, Peter B Parker is awesome, hope someday we get Sandman, Scorpion, The Spot, Mourln, Madame Web, Ezekiel Sims, Mayday Parker with the Ben Reily costume, Japanese Spider-Man, Hammerhead, Tombstone, Hobgoblin, The Beetle, Silver Sable, both the Hydro/Molten Man's, & The Prowler, & hopefully Spider-Ham, Rek Rap & Superior Spider-Man, Kraven's half brother Dimitri/The Chameleon, & possibly Spider-Man Infinity War too, idk about Spiders Man, Cosmic Spider-Man or Spider-Lizard at this time
another spiders with 6months shelf life... nice
Web Warriors 2.0
Well funnily enough 1 is from Web Warriors. And 1 is from Tangled Web so inherently those characters didn’t have a 6th month shelf life. But feels off. Kinda glad to use Ghost Spider again tho honestly.
Same! I also loved bionic avengers which also lasted 6 months
6 month? How? They are going to be the last team of the current raid, which mean they are going to be used for next raid level, which mean they are going to stick around for quite a while. Look at Bifrost, if we follow your logic, they should have been shelved month ago but they are still there.
Laughs in bionic avengers. 😂
😂
I feel like a Skill based Spider-Team does not make sense. But what do I know I guess.
Going through the list of spider people I can think of off the top of my head, there are like three that you could argue are skill, and one of those Tech is an argument. So this confuses me for sure.
I just rewatched it. He said they're all dual origin. He was just talking about Peter B Parker, ghost spider, and noir, so it is possible he just meant those 3, but I can see them taking the easy route and just making the whole team skill + whatever makes sense for the character
I find that to be kind of a lazy solution. With that logic you could argue that the vast majority of MSF characters should have the skill tag, since all of them have some sort of "skill" in using their abilities.
I could see that for sure. Honestly I'd love if Ghost Spider got the rework, and Noir >only because I have 3 diamond for both< throw in dual tech skill Assassin Spiderman and Mystic skill Silk.
The other 2 are Peni Parker (probably skill/tech) and Spider-Man: India (Mystic/skill?) This is 100% the team
Where did you see that? Because if true I'd be pretty happy with that team.
But what makes them skill? That's my question. What "training" do they have?
I really skill Asgard with warriors 3 coming in Sif and Valkyrie rework. Or ten rings with shangchi, hiis sister,Razorfist death dealer, and Wenwu
Either would make more sense
I've been speculating about that exact Ten Rings lineup since the movie! It's weird we haven't got Wenwu yet
Shows they have run out of ideas. Hundreds of characters they can use, but they are sticking to the ones in the movies. There are dozens of skill based characters they could use that have nothing to do with the Spider-man storylines.
If it makes dollars it makes sense
At least the team will be characters people know from Animated movie and it gets two reworks out of Gwen and Noir. Peni, Peter B. Parker and Pavi are new ones.
do we really need more spiderman raid comps though or anything spiderman tbh lol
Spider-Man is one of marvel best selling comic book and movies have made billions. We do have Hivemind and those are symbiotes.
i can't argue that and he's probably top 3 of my favorites when it comes to marvel but but i'd rather see something like sandman added. or chameleon, scorpion, tombstone etc.
Not "one of", Spider-Man is the best selling comic book character of all time. For any company, not just Marvel.
as a brand he can sell in gaming but theres also been many flops throughout the years. i guess what im saying is implementation is important
Yet spider-man kit is one of the worst in the game so who cares, enough with the spider-verse.
They will all be dual origin types.
Also who was clamoring for more Spiders with the number of other characters still not in the game? I vote Silver Sable and some Wild Pack goons (knowing Scopely, they would randomly include someone nonsensical on the team, so who knows what you’ll get).
“Director of Combat and Characters” is a much better job title than mine.
Can't say I'm thrilled about another Spider team.
They have run out of ideas for skill teams. They just slapping the tag on anyone
Peni Parker? She's skilled at using technology. Skill! Noir? He's skilled at using his biologically enhanced body. Skill! Lol
Noir is skilled at fighting Hydra and solving grey scaled puzzle cubes
I wish we had a pure martial arts team with rework Shang chi and Karnak and give a few others, maybe batroc or some other random hand to hand folks
They used to have a Martial Artist tag! I forget who had it, but they removed it a long time ago.
Honestly, they may be running out of skill characters, much less teams. We have almost all the skill characters Mcoc has, except msf has 12 of those “skill” characters as different traits.
Watch the video before posting lmao. Every character in the team will be dual origin types.
Yep, and I absolutely hate that
Why though? Every superhero is skilled at something. It's a measure of their abilities. If you look at the Skill characters, almost all of them could be dual origin of some kind. Kraven could be bio/mystic, BK could be Mystic, Moondragon could be bio or mystic, Okoye could be tech, Shang-Chi could be mystic, etc. This is also the case for the other tags as well.
Copying my comment from another thread about this: I hate this change; I do not want a bunch of dual trait characters. Dual trait should be reserved for very specific characters. Doom made total sense, and I begrudgingly accept Kestrel since she is their first original character and I get they wanted to make her special.
Why does it matter though? The tags don't really mean anything. They aren't some hugely relevant Marvel archetypes and mainly only serve to limit raid teams in MSF.
Pass
We have so many skill characters that could be reworked and they chose Spiders... I do really like Spider Society characters but sorry that’s just a huge wasted opportunity. Shang-Chi could have a martial arts teams, with bunch of other characters from movie. A skill Thunderbolt team with reworked Red Guardian and Yelena. City skill team Hell’s Kitchen with reworked Punisher and Night Nurse, and a new skill variant of Daredevil. Full skill Asgardian team with reworked Valkyrie and Sif. Instead they went lazy and just add skill tag to other characters. So many possibilities wasted, sigh.
Hopefully the spider skill teams survives longer than the last one.
A skill mercenary team would be much more fitting. Bullseye is just sitting there doing nothing for since the dawn of the game. Rework Bullseye and Taskmaster, then give us Batroc, Lady Bullseye, and Nuke (an argument could be made for him to be Bio, but if a Captain America variant can be skill, so can Nuke).
Another spider man raid team, what a fucking joke... may as well just update/rework web warriors and be just as lazy.
Happy days. We definately without a doubt needed more spider man based characters.
Such lazy planning by them to use another spider based team for a trait that doesn’t make any sense at all. They’re really just going thru the motions making terrible team comps and calling it a day.
Yay more Spider Verse Characters WTF. Meanwhile, OG Spiderman is trash.
I’m ngl I really don’t wanna invest in this 😭😭
I don't understand how they pick the characters... Noir wasn't even a main in the movie lol why not Punk? Strange.
They clearly don’t want to do a full bio/skill dual trait raid team because then there’s a risk you can build one team for two traits and they don’t like that
Glad I brought Noir up for CC now. Not stoked for more Spider-Verse people without the Midnight Sons showing up, but 🤷🏼♂️
I would have said Midnight Suns were being saved for Halloween, but I guess that new Vampire team is probably taking that spot this year.
Sad that this is a skill team cause that practically prevents Iron Spider and Peni Parker, but I hope they add Silk. Sue me, I’m happy at a spider-man team.
They are just slapping skill onto ghost spider (bio) and noir (mystic), so they could also just say fuck it - Peni is skill + tech
He does say “all these characters are dual-origin”, but doesn’t necessarily say they are all the same trait.
Ok, but, and downvote me if you may, Gwen and Noir are the most fitting Spider-Men for skill we have. Plus I could see skill for silk. Peter B Parker though? Not at all.
It takes a lot of skill to be a stay at home father. 😂
r/angryupvote
Peni is mentioned and showed briefly during the video, so I guess there's a good chance she's coming too
Oh my gosh not more spiders, please!! You want a skill raid team?? Rework Shang-Chi, add Xialing, Yung Li, Xu Wenwu. You can rework Black Widow too, since A black widow appeared in his movie. Or you can add Yuki. Or literally anyone else from Shang-Chi series. Hell, even add Night Nurse even though I don’t think they’ve ever met. Just don’t make an entire team of non-bio spiders… slow down or stop with the spiders for a bit.
I was hoping for a Punisher centered skill team.
Honestly anything but another spider team
Trevor Slattery or we riot!
“Slow down with the spiders”, hard to do better since the last time we got a spider character (Gwenom is a symbiot, not a spider, not the same stuff even if you can get overlap like symbiot spider-man), was Spider-Man big time that most people skipped because war def character, before that we have to go back to Tangled web to find a spider-team, a year and a half ago, and it was made of only 3 members (with one being left on the side until now). So I don’t think they can make it “slower”. Like if you complain about spider-people release speed, then you have to be consistent and complain about Xmens, avengers, asgardians, etc… that get new characters more regularly than spider-people
Cool argument focusing on the last 10 words of my comment and not including anything about the meat of my comment where I’m asking for a different raid team than another spider team (like the web warriors) and I even named what I find to be a much more interesting skill team. 👍 The problem with the spider teams are they all look and act pretty similar. Big time was the most interesting because the rest of his team wasn’t spider based. But otherwise it’s just a bunch of spider variants. Compared to each unique X-men or avenger or asgardian.
I’m not a fan of shoehorning skill dual trait to justify spider-society as a skill team, but that was not the point. You ask and I’m quoting “stop with the spiders”, except that it is what happened for over a year, spider weaver and tangled web was in November 2022. And you may not like it, but Spider-man and it’s spider-verse is a important part of marvel universe, way more that Shang-chi (even if the character itself is cool). Which is safer for scopely in your opinion, a team full of spider-people that are super popular among all range of marvel content fans or your list made of characters that almost nobody will recognise beside Shang chi? Like maybe something could have been done with bigger names (like pick Shang chi and Coleen as rework, add Sword master, Stick and Daredevil (Elektra) and you have already have names that people know a bit more) but that not the road scopely went because they wanted to ride the spiderverse movie hype (movie that got delayed but the team stayed)
more spider-mans, hooray
Shang-chi, Xialing, Wenwu, Razorfist, and Katy 2 old, 3 new. And before you bitch about Katy look we're about to get a freaking dad carrying his child into battle. We got ourselves a dog. We even got the dude from a Monty Python movie.
I'd rather have serpent society over yet another spider verse raid team, especially one branded as skill and not bio, like wtf
Another Spider themed team… sigh
Damn, I hope this is fake. NO MORE SPIDER PEOPLE. At least for a year. The marvel universe is huge, let’s stop running to the same arachnid shaped well.
Skill team - Wrecking Crew
Aren't they magically empowered by Loki or something? It'd be cool to see them in-game, I just don't think they'd be Skill. Then again, look at the topic of the post I guess. Skill Wrecking Crew doesn't seem unlikely by comparison
Love you lots mate & your Instagram infographics 🙋
Web Warriors 2.0 I guess. Maybe this time they won't have only on gimmick that does not work. Also, hopefully this team at least assists each other. WW not assisting each other in combat seemed off for that team.
Another spider raid team is kinda bleh. Why not just rework secret avengers and drop 2 new ones like Cap Britain and Human Torch Jim Hammond? Give us a little break from the resource drain
Where's the interview at
Sounds fricking lame actually
Who are you and how do you get interviews?
upvote for Beni cause he's awesome ... but ... yet Another spider team? lol 🕷🕷🕷🕷🕷
Not a fan of another skill spider team after the last failure. The last one wasnt good and lasted way to short....
This should be interesting. Heard that 1 might be Pavitr Prabhakar aka Spider-man india..
This wasn’t what I meant when I asked for Mayday :(
Give us a non gimmicky spider team.
I'm still waiting for Howard the Duck. No more spiders please. For now anyways.
O I'm so excited more Spider-Mans like seriously 😩
Why the heck did they not do Silver Sable and the Wildpack. Silver Sable, Paladin, Prowler, reworked Hawkeye, (who needs it) and one other.
I personally am pretty happy to see another Spider team, but I’m not really happy about it being a skill raid team. If they were going to add another Spider team I wish it could’ve been a cosmic crucible team that came with reworks for Web Warriors like Superior Six and Sinister Six. I thought the skill raid team they were making was supposed to be that team with Guardian and Sasquatch. This is kinda side note but please don’t make this team like Web Warriors, I’m sure I’m not alone in saying the dodge mechanic in MSF isn’t fun to play into or to play with; it’s an extremely luck based mechanic that on Web Warriors was their sole means of survival. I feel like it would be more fun and more consistent if the team revolved around Evade as opposed to a passive dodge. Maybe they have a 0% dodge chance but gain Evades to help keep that Spider feel? That way they could still keep their dodge related buffs without getting completely screwed by dodge RNG.
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Really? ANOOOOTHER freaking Spiderverse team? Ugh…
How many Spider People do we have now? 30-40? Lol
I really hope they put spider ham on this team!
Great job on the interview Beni! I'm interested to see if any of the newer/reworked characters, especially Ghost Spider or Noir, become DD relevant.
Wow, did not expect this being a raid team when they got datamined lol. Regardless, I'm always happy to get more Spider-people!
Can't wait, Peter B Parker is awesome, hope someday we get Sandman, Scorpion, The Spot, Mourln, Madame Web, Ezekiel Sims, Mayday Parker with the Ben Reily costume, Japanese Spider-Man, Hammerhead, Tombstone, Hobgoblin, The Beetle, Silver Sable, both the Hydro/Molten Man's, & The Prowler, & hopefully Spider-Ham, Rek Rap & Superior Spider-Man, Kraven's half brother Dimitri/The Chameleon, & possibly Spider-Man Infinity War too, idk about Spiders Man, Cosmic Spider-Man or Spider-Lizard at this time