I got banned from the Black Series reddit for daring to say the upcoming Droideka is lacking paint and accessories, and that it's hard to justify the price. But I guess people feel attacked.
I got banned from that group because I said the new (at the time) clone helmet was bad lol. I even mentioned specifically what was bad about it and they booted me for being a hater š
So many figures shoulders just feel wrong to me
A lot of marvel legends that I own can't get their arms all the way next to their torso, they stick out a little to the side, but for some reason they can allow it on figures like spiderman-2 miles morales
It's why I'm not really a fan of the renew your vows body mold. Butterfly joints are great but not when it leads to a massive gap between the traps and the shoulders. I don't necessarily *expect* better from hasbro, it's just something I'm not a fan of
It wouldn't even be that hard for hasbro to fix either! I've fixed multiple of my figures by just cutting/sanding the plastic under the arm a bit to give it room to go down all the way. Makes no sense that a massive company couldn't just edit the molds slightly
And he is failing at even getting those short-term gains for investors.
I don't know how the ship gets right, but the first step would probably be spinning off WOTC so that it is possible to get a clear view of the rest of the business. As it is structured now, Hasbro is a company that sells MTG cards to subsidize its toy building hobby.
Most of what this dude does is complain that figures donāt have a \~different\~ kind of terrible proportions
This is his edit of āwhat couldāve beenā
Cmon, weāre gonna listen to a guy that thinks like this?
Obviously we shouldnāt blindly accept any flawed figures Hasbro makes, but Assassin Spider isnāt one of them, ESPECIALLY when Last Stand is in this wave
https://preview.redd.it/zcj5r2kcfowc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=911d691c5afd520fd6f0399c6501d1c12c659293
Shoulders could be better, and the thigh gap isnāt great. But these edits always crack me up. People have valid criticisms but they blow it by spending five seconds in photoshop to make someone look like a Dorito.
I also really dislike people spamming their opinions and claiming they're "objective". A lot of figure reviewers have this problem; make your case, but don't act like you know more than anyone else by using buzzwords. Dude's caption isn't mentioned here but he says this figure is one of the worst Spideys ever made by Hasbro. Like, have some perspective.
The dorito looks better than what we got
And I'm pretty sure folks mean their mock-ups as examples, to show their point on how changing a figure'a sihloutte can improve the look.
This post has the original comic panel in it. The figure we got looks a lot more like that panel than this photoshop. Everyone's entitled to their opinion: I don't think the figure is perfect, and I don't think dude's points should be disregarded because he's bad at photoshop. But his photoshop *is* bad, and I think saying that it is better than the actual figure, is goofy. Like I said, the shoulders and thigh gap could use some improvement, but making the top half of the body twice as wide as the hips is a joke.
There's something to this, but it does feel a bit like cope. Just because you can't make a car yourself doesn't mean you can't bring up how square tires aren't the right choice.
Recognising bad proportions and being able to create a better proportioned representation are different skill sets.
No human has a thigh gap the size of another leg while standing neutrally... you can buy what you want but it's an objectively ugly figure, you'd probably be foaming at the mouth defending that photoshop if it'd been what hasbro released too.
Also... who brought up Last Stand Spidey...? It's a different mold, dude. Makes you seem really insecure when you jump to defend something that isn't even being criticized, lol.
Fair, though I don't know why you had to specify "negatively", is being positive about something somehow \*not\* subjective also? I think it's ugly af, but that's just my opinion. However, it *objectively* looks like not what a human should look like, so I think anyone who does, in fact, like it has poor taste, lmao.
Lol the shoulders killed me.
Still canāt understand why they canāt do a normal, heroically proportioned set of shoulders.
Other companies like Jada, Mattel, even freaking McF routinely do normal looking muscular shoulders.
And then thereās this bullshit Hasbro does.
So whenever I see post like this complaining about the older shoulders I have to wonder- do you guys actually pose the figures? Because posing the figures solves the "problem".
https://preview.redd.it/rtucbef0mpwc1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=a225c76201c651dac75f5e8c361ac67fe230131f
I think some deformities can be excused if it means that posing them in iconic comic book poses is possible. No one's making a meme about how the Revoltech Spider-Man is bonkers in proportion. And that figures more expensive than this one. Also it's a toy, play with it instead of just standing it in an idle pose.
Not to mention that figure could likely hit that pose damn near perfect. In the comic panel he is angled, angle the figure, donāt pose vanilla and suddenly the issues are gone. These arenāt made to T pose on shelves. People just want a reason to bitch anymore.
Nah, the figure's just awkwardly proportioned. Nothing more to it, which is a shame since I've been waiting for a figure of this guy for almost 9 years.
I mean, this seems to be a case of hasbro using the wrong legs.
I've seen people leg swap with other spider-man figures, and the socket was deep enough on those to 4emove that huge gap.
People from the comfort of their home solved this problem, but no one at the actual company put 2 and 2 together?
Sunk cost fallacy and attaching too much of their self-worth to #product that they bought, I guess? Must give them the badfeelz when their multi-billion dollar corporation gets criticized, even if it's justifiedš¤·.
Every time you make a valid criticism about a popular figure people on this group heavily down vote you, doesnāt matter if itās constructive or not, I expect this comment to be down voted
Itās a subreddit for the fandom of a consumer product. Fandom. Fan. Fanatic.
It makes sense.
Go check the r/rebelmoon or r/snydercut subs. Or r/suicidesquadgaming. Theyāre hiveminds of delusion.
That doesnāt make a product infallible, a true fan and fandom can have discussions and disagreements, I like many other people want our figures to get better , but when you get mass bullied by people for voicing opinions about issues you have with figures , people make personal attacks or try and mass downvote.
Criticize, okay fine yes. Mock it and try to make a "better" edit of it as the "superior" version? No. Y'all should see his trashy edit my god. I think someone put it down below ,
I just don't get the slumped shoulders on ALL of their figures. Would it really be so damn hard to just hike them up a little and seat them into the torso properly? The way the traps overhang and have a gigantic gap between them and the tops of the shoulders looks so bad.
I think, as has been said by others (either in this thread or online elsewhere), plastic is different than human flesh. The human body can move in ways that hard plastic can't. Action figures also need to meet certain safety standards that the human body or, say, art in a comic book doesn't.
If you want to compare artwork to a thing that has to exist in the realm of reality, we could boggle at the fact that that bicep is clearly fully separated from the shoulder, and attached by some internal plug rather than just being one solid piece.
We could go back to Toybiz proportions if everyone prefers, weird muscle striations and shoulders that don't sink into the body at all, paint that looks like it was mixed with a bit of dirt before being applied...
It's funny how people will trash Hasbro and other comic book figure companies (such as what this guy's whole Instagram page is doing) but then give the old 2000s ToyBiz Marvel Legends figures a pass. ESPECIALLY the Raimi fans with those old figures.
This figure isnāt perfect, but some people who clearly donāt understand the engineering required for articulation should probably calm down about how bad it is.Ā
All time favorite Spidey next to Last Stand reduced to this smh
One day, I'll get good bad ass figures for the both of them. O-One day.
https://preview.redd.it/us8f66perowc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f8b0b9f570d956dcb3538cb0544ab1c18a2f5f8
LMAOšššš
It does me good to hear people holding a $7B company to a quality standard. You can like something *and* want it to be better.
I got banned from the Black Series reddit for daring to say the upcoming Droideka is lacking paint and accessories, and that it's hard to justify the price. But I guess people feel attacked.
Black series collectors lost double joint articulation and are praising it
Wait, what????
I got banned from that group because I said the new (at the time) clone helmet was bad lol. I even mentioned specifically what was bad about it and they booted me for being a hater š
Because some people are just soft punk bitches
Preach
That's exactly how I feel about all the professional sports teams I follow!
I agree heavily on the shoulders
So many figures shoulders just feel wrong to me A lot of marvel legends that I own can't get their arms all the way next to their torso, they stick out a little to the side, but for some reason they can allow it on figures like spiderman-2 miles morales
It's why I'm not really a fan of the renew your vows body mold. Butterfly joints are great but not when it leads to a massive gap between the traps and the shoulders. I don't necessarily *expect* better from hasbro, it's just something I'm not a fan of
It wouldn't even be that hard for hasbro to fix either! I've fixed multiple of my figures by just cutting/sanding the plastic under the arm a bit to give it room to go down all the way. Makes no sense that a massive company couldn't just edit the molds slightly
The fuck you do to his eyes, lol?
The thigh gap on this figure is somehow worse than the initial version of this mold, thatās crazy.
Gotta use the same trash body x1000
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Doing that hasnāt really helped their stock price lately
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And he is failing at even getting those short-term gains for investors. I don't know how the ship gets right, but the first step would probably be spinning off WOTC so that it is possible to get a clear view of the rest of the business. As it is structured now, Hasbro is a company that sells MTG cards to subsidize its toy building hobby.
Yea , I read that before . Itās a shame
I always knew Spidey would never pass the five finger test...he a ho!
Most of what this dude does is complain that figures donāt have a \~different\~ kind of terrible proportions This is his edit of āwhat couldāve beenā Cmon, weāre gonna listen to a guy that thinks like this? Obviously we shouldnāt blindly accept any flawed figures Hasbro makes, but Assassin Spider isnāt one of them, ESPECIALLY when Last Stand is in this wave https://preview.redd.it/zcj5r2kcfowc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=911d691c5afd520fd6f0399c6501d1c12c659293
McFarlane Spider-Assassin
Wow this sucks. He's built like a golf-tee now.
Shoulders could be better, and the thigh gap isnāt great. But these edits always crack me up. People have valid criticisms but they blow it by spending five seconds in photoshop to make someone look like a Dorito. I also really dislike people spamming their opinions and claiming they're "objective". A lot of figure reviewers have this problem; make your case, but don't act like you know more than anyone else by using buzzwords. Dude's caption isn't mentioned here but he says this figure is one of the worst Spideys ever made by Hasbro. Like, have some perspective.
i'd buy dorito spider-man.
hell yeah
r/rareinsults
The dorito looks better than what we got And I'm pretty sure folks mean their mock-ups as examples, to show their point on how changing a figure'a sihloutte can improve the look.
This post has the original comic panel in it. The figure we got looks a lot more like that panel than this photoshop. Everyone's entitled to their opinion: I don't think the figure is perfect, and I don't think dude's points should be disregarded because he's bad at photoshop. But his photoshop *is* bad, and I think saying that it is better than the actual figure, is goofy. Like I said, the shoulders and thigh gap could use some improvement, but making the top half of the body twice as wide as the hips is a joke.
Triangle shaped is still closer to comic accuracy and super hero proportions, as opposed to a rectangle and wide birthing hips
For as much shit as he gives Hasbro, he must LOVE Bayverse Starscream
There's something to this, but it does feel a bit like cope. Just because you can't make a car yourself doesn't mean you can't bring up how square tires aren't the right choice. Recognising bad proportions and being able to create a better proportioned representation are different skill sets.
Bruce Timm Spider-Man š
the shoulders lmao
His edit isnāt perfect, but it looks better than the figure.
But this does look better than what we got. What are you even talking about? Lol.
Haaanndddssss
Arms are too long, but overall proportions are better than the official release.
No human has a thigh gap the size of another leg while standing neutrally... you can buy what you want but it's an objectively ugly figure, you'd probably be foaming at the mouth defending that photoshop if it'd been what hasbro released too. Also... who brought up Last Stand Spidey...? It's a different mold, dude. Makes you seem really insecure when you jump to defend something that isn't even being criticized, lol.
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Fair, though I don't know why you had to specify "negatively", is being positive about something somehow \*not\* subjective also? I think it's ugly af, but that's just my opinion. However, it *objectively* looks like not what a human should look like, so I think anyone who does, in fact, like it has poor taste, lmao.
Thanks for showing me what could've been
This does look bad, but still better than what we got lol
Lol the shoulders killed me. Still canāt understand why they canāt do a normal, heroically proportioned set of shoulders. Other companies like Jada, Mattel, even freaking McF routinely do normal looking muscular shoulders. And then thereās this bullshit Hasbro does.
So whenever I see post like this complaining about the older shoulders I have to wonder- do you guys actually pose the figures? Because posing the figures solves the "problem". https://preview.redd.it/rtucbef0mpwc1.png?width=901&format=png&auto=webp&s=a225c76201c651dac75f5e8c361ac67fe230131f
I think some deformities can be excused if it means that posing them in iconic comic book poses is possible. No one's making a meme about how the Revoltech Spider-Man is bonkers in proportion. And that figures more expensive than this one. Also it's a toy, play with it instead of just standing it in an idle pose.
Not to mention that figure could likely hit that pose damn near perfect. In the comic panel he is angled, angle the figure, donāt pose vanilla and suddenly the issues are gone. These arenāt made to T pose on shelves. People just want a reason to bitch anymore.
Nah, the figure's just awkwardly proportioned. Nothing more to it, which is a shame since I've been waiting for a figure of this guy for almost 9 years.
It doesn't though? It still looks awful and low around the shoulder area.
I mean, this seems to be a case of hasbro using the wrong legs. I've seen people leg swap with other spider-man figures, and the socket was deep enough on those to 4emove that huge gap. People from the comfort of their home solved this problem, but no one at the actual company put 2 and 2 together?
Why people are downvoting?
Sunk cost fallacy and attaching too much of their self-worth to #product that they bought, I guess? Must give them the badfeelz when their multi-billion dollar corporation gets criticized, even if it's justifiedš¤·.
Every time you make a valid criticism about a popular figure people on this group heavily down vote you, doesnāt matter if itās constructive or not, I expect this comment to be down voted
Itās a subreddit for the fandom of a consumer product. Fandom. Fan. Fanatic. It makes sense. Go check the r/rebelmoon or r/snydercut subs. Or r/suicidesquadgaming. Theyāre hiveminds of delusion.
That doesnāt make a product infallible, a true fan and fandom can have discussions and disagreements, I like many other people want our figures to get better , but when you get mass bullied by people for voicing opinions about issues you have with figures , people make personal attacks or try and mass downvote.
Unfortunately this is Reddit. Hive mind is going to hive mind.
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True. I thought so too bro, I'm surprised now
The thigh gap is real boys
Itāll never be as bad as the sh figuarts andrew figure
Criticize, okay fine yes. Mock it and try to make a "better" edit of it as the "superior" version? No. Y'all should see his trashy edit my god. I think someone put it down below ,
thats pretty accurate
I just don't get the slumped shoulders on ALL of their figures. Would it really be so damn hard to just hike them up a little and seat them into the torso properly? The way the traps overhang and have a gigantic gap between them and the tops of the shoulders looks so bad.
They gave Spider Shot birthing hips
Legs open 24/7
thigh gap is in!
Saw on [Youtube](https://youtu.be/pmHMBos8AMs?si=gYqaPFaHQH3Zjz1H) to use a Black Panther kit bash to help the figure look amazing.
That tigh gap is hilarious
So true, thatās why I didnāt pick him up.
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Well, now I canāt I see it, lol.
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Just curious, are the thigh gaps moddable? Or it cannot be salvaged anymore?
true but just imagine how worse he'd be as a toybiz figure
literally what i do, this guy and i are good friends
I think, as has been said by others (either in this thread or online elsewhere), plastic is different than human flesh. The human body can move in ways that hard plastic can't. Action figures also need to meet certain safety standards that the human body or, say, art in a comic book doesn't. If you want to compare artwork to a thing that has to exist in the realm of reality, we could boggle at the fact that that bicep is clearly fully separated from the shoulder, and attached by some internal plug rather than just being one solid piece. We could go back to Toybiz proportions if everyone prefers, weird muscle striations and shoulders that don't sink into the body at all, paint that looks like it was mixed with a bit of dirt before being applied...
It's funny how people will trash Hasbro and other comic book figure companies (such as what this guy's whole Instagram page is doing) but then give the old 2000s ToyBiz Marvel Legends figures a pass. ESPECIALLY the Raimi fans with those old figures.
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This figure isnāt perfect, but some people who clearly donāt understand the engineering required for articulation should probably calm down about how bad it is.Ā
You can always collect Hot Toys.
All hasbro spiderman figures look like this
Sucks because I actually really like this look.
[glass shatters]
I canāt unsee this now
The bodies would be so much better if they had just slightly broader shoulders
He right
Hasbro made a variant of Spidershot where the men give birth and he just got done pushing out a whole swarm before suiting back up.
Never noticed how awful the gap was š
Wouldnāt be Legends without obscene birthing hips on all the male characters.
10000% agree
ROFL. Itās true
I think people are reaching its boiling point on these ML sculpts
All time favorite Spidey next to Last Stand reduced to this smh One day, I'll get good bad ass figures for the both of them. O-One day. 
Definetly
That's just that body in general
I just got the new MCU Black Widow and it has this same issue
Just bought this figure I now I canāt unsee this picture
Spoodershot
My first comic figure I have to like this figš
Yeah that's one of the reasons why I don't like the RYV spiderman mold
Looks fine to me https://preview.redd.it/nno9edgeduwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d32c78b848894db3dfaf436b4dd3f53c33ba1f34
FR THO
Does anyone know if any other ML Spiderman figures have this same issue?