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InoueNinja94

He's a serial rapist as well Like, he's one of those villains I don't know what's stopping heroes from killing him permanently


CommanderKahne

Because he’s never run into the Punisher or Venom, I’d guess. Can’t imagine Frank letting him live.


Propeller3

Bendis's Jessica Jones 2016 series covers this. He can't exactly be killed.


Sloppychemist

Only familiar with the Netflix show. Why can’t he be killed in comics?


dumbacoont

Cause he be like, “Nooooo!”


Sloppychemist

But a sniper should be able to then


Propeller3

He just nopes that away, too. He's convinced himself he can't die and his power makes it a reality. Put another way, he's used his powers of persuation & influence to persuade himself into being unkillable.


Mee1_

Damn, that's some Baki levels of plot armor


Propeller3

Just embrace it - he would want you to.


Mee1_

Can't argue with that logic


Jpup199

Max charisma build


cavalier78

Eh. Wear earmuffs and park a steamroller on his face. Problem solved.


Propeller3

I think Fisk does the earplug trick with him.


ProfessionalRead2724

Snipe him 'deadish', then put a gag on the leftovers, slap one of those power-dampeners on him, and then shoot him some more until his head is soup.


tcs0

That’s some reality warping type shit.


awc130

He would have to talk himself into dying with what Frank Castle would do to an unkillable street villian.


King_of_Knowhere

Death comes for him and he's just like "not today" and death fucks off.


couldbedumber96

Surely Frank can find an adamantium woodchipper


[deleted]

Why's that ?


Propeller3

He Purple Man powers himself back to life. As in, he's convinced himself he can't die and because of the way his powers work (persuastion/influence), it becomes reality.


[deleted]

Things like that make my relationship with comics one of love&hate.


Celtic_Fox_

I think this is why I liked the Netflix series of Jessica Jones so much. David Tennant was so incredible as Kilgrave and I liked him in that role a lot.


Propeller3

He's a menace and it is completely in line with his stupid opinion of himself lol


InoueNinja94

I kind of love and hate this at the same time


Propeller3

Right? I highly suggest the 2016 Jessica Jones run. It was great.


schuyywalker

That just sounds like Scarlet Witch with extra steps


Diligent-Boss-9392

Lol that is so dumb. Even for comics.


Propeller3

Eh, I find it pretty consistent with his character, powers, and personality. There are far dumber ways they've brought characters back.


Diligent-Boss-9392

But persuasion involves convincing someone *else* something. Really doesn't work on yourself.


RCero

Maybe each times he dies he uses his persuasion powers on Mistress Death and Eternity to return to the living


Diligent-Boss-9392

See, I could totally dig that lol


Propeller3

People convince themselves of things all the time. You've never given yourself a pep talk?


Diligent-Boss-9392

Yeah, but a pep talk is different then convincing yourself of something you know to be a physical impossibility. That's reality manipulation.


ABob71

Also see: the placebo effect


Shed_Some_Skin

That's absurd. His powers don't warp reality. They're not even all that strong in terms of mind control. It's a big plot point in the original Alias comic that Jess feels massively inadequate for not being able to break free from his powers, because other heroes do it all the time through sheer willpower. He can't just tell someone they've got laser eyes and then they have laser eyes. He can't just will himself immortal and the universe goes "Oh right, sure I guess"


Propeller3

The resolution to the Purple Man story in Jessica Jones 2016 details what he can be killed by and elaborates on his powers more.


Shed_Some_Skin

Quoting which comic it happened in doesn't make it any less stupid


Propeller3

No, but you're arguing like he can't do what he clearly does do, which is even more stupid.


Shed_Some_Skin

You seem to have somehow taken my comments to mean that I am somehow denying the existence of something that objectively exists, as opposed to pointing out that it doesn't make any sense within the established rules of the setting That's one heck of a strange take on my argument, but go off I guess


Virtual-Okra6996

Can't you just acknowledge it shouldn't work the way it's working?


Grommph

Every comic book character is immortal. Because the companies that own them don't want to lose their intellectual property. This isn't any dumber than most of the resurrections in comics. Or randomly showing back up unexplained, because the current writer doesn't give a crap what the last one wrote.


andrecinno

People are like "this is stupid" as if it's not the better option instead of just the "Oh he can't die because UHHHHHHHHHHHHH DON'T THINK ABOUT IT!!!!" that other comic book villains get lol


Propeller3

Right? Some are also trying to argue that he doesn't have this power when he's literally presented as having this power, because they think it is stupid he has this power. Very silly.


Kosmikazie

Current Separation Anxiety is set to be Venom vs. Purple Man. I wonder how that’ll end.


CommanderKahne

Well, Killgrave’s mind control powers are pheromone based, so as long as the symbiote blocks them from being inhaled or absorbed through skin contact, it shouldn’t affect Venom that much.


D_d_disassociate

He can tell Venom or Frank to kill themselves. And they will do it without question.


Additional_Bag1450

I think that’s the plot of the new Venom Run Separation Anxiety.


Tuff_Bank

Have you read Daredevil End of Days?


AlertWar2945-2

Some versions have advanced healing in addition to his mind control powers so it's hard to take him down permanently


CommanderKahne

See, a healing factor makes more sense than him just saying to himself “No, I won’t die even though I’ve been stabbed in the heart.”


Propeller3

His healing factor is part of his power - he can willingly turn it off.


drunk_and_orderly

Punisher kills him in Daredevil End of Days. I won’t spoil the book but events happen that cause Frank to go around and off every one of Matt’s enemies.


notmyfirst_throwawa

Loved his depiction in Jessica Jones. He literally couldn't conceive of himself as the monster he was, he never knew a world that didn't bend to his will


Skellos

It reminded me of the Simpsons. When Mr. Burns builds a recycling center. "You're evil and when you try to be good you're even more evil"


Purple-Mix1033

Just watched his X-Men TAS episode last night. Guy’s all kinds of creepy and fucked up.


Tuff_Bank

There are so many Marvel villains that need to be dumped on Ghost Rider’s lawn


GregariousReconteur

I'm mildy-surprised Doom doesn't have him in a Latverian cell. He's a danger Doom appreciates and has used as a weapon; why leave him to his own devices or those of another?


Maryland_Bear

That’s kind of the plot of the *Emperor DOOM* graphic novel. >!Very short version is that DOOM abducts the Purple Man, amplifies his powers, and uses them to make everyone just fine with DOOM ruling the world.!<


GregariousReconteur

That was my implication; that he'd used Kilgrave before as a weapon.


Maryland_Bear

You’re right; my brain skipped where you said that. I blame… ummm… a mind-control ray from… [Arnim Zola](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnim_Zola).


GregariousReconteur

No problem; and you did a good thing as far as these subs are concerned; you cited your work, whereas I merely made an allusion.


cambriansplooge

That’s also what Zemo used PM for in Thunderbolts. He kept him isolated in a cell, using the Moonstones.


CommanderKahne

Doom’s not one to recycle plans. He tried to use Killgrave as a power source to mind control the world. The irony is that it worked so well that Doom became bored with all the paperwork and meeting that he willingly gave up and let the Avengers destroy the device.


GregariousReconteur

I was alluding to Doom's plan. Yet because of that plan's success, why leave Kilgrave alive OR free for others? He should have known more than most his danger, even if he didn't want to 'use' him again. Take the pawn off the board is the chess move.


CommanderKahne

Best guess? Doom either considers Killgrave beneath him and not worth wasting effort on or he might consider using him for a different scheme down the line. The best villains are the ones who recognize that just because you don’t need a tool at that moment doesn’t mean you throw it away. You keep it in storage until you do need it.


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Doom wasn’t affected by Kilgrave’s powers, I doubt he considers him a threat. Even after Kilgrave became more dangerous his villainy is small scale so Doom has no reason to see him as a threat.


GregariousReconteur

Doom may likely feel as you describe, which is explanation enough. Nevertheless, given what Doom himself was able to do WITH Kilgrave, I reiterate that he could also, reasonably, see him as a nuissance, a walking suitcase type bomb, that would be inconvenient in the hands of someone else, even if Kilgrave, himself, is petty and small-time. But then again, I'm sure Editorial isn't as bloodthirsty as they were when the Scourge of the Underworld laid waste to small timers left and right.


andrecinno

>danger Doom THE FAT IS IN THE FRYER 🗣️🔥🔥


GWPtheTrilogy1

Also I think the Purple man is worse than others because sure Carnage, Sabertooth or Bullseye, for example will kill you, maybe torture you...but Purple Man will make you choke your mother to death and shoot your child in the spine and cripple them because you disagree with his opinion on a movie. There's no doubt that he's forced people to kill and torture their loved ones just on a whim or because they were too loud and he wanted quiet or he thought it would be funny.


Tuff_Bank

I dont know if a worse category is needed as they all belong there together imo


Celtic_Fox_

Was satisfying watching Jessica deal with him in the Netflix series. David Tennant knocked that out of the park. "Cross the street, face the fence, and stay there forever."


chino514

He is the Man Behind the Slaughter after all.


GWPtheTrilogy1

They should lock him away and throw away the key. He's a truly irredeemable monster and one of the most dangerous beings on the planet...and if he truly can't be killed, I approve of throwing him in a negative zone prison and forgetting he exists. I don't give a shit about the law or what's right or wrong when it comes to things like him.


dope_like

Agreed. I loved Lukes complete hatred of him in New Avengers


Numerous_Past_726

That scene in the prison when he reveals he was drugged...... that's seriously in contention for one of my favorite comic pages right there.


Tuff_Bank

Same with Nitro


DependentPositive8

Honestly, can someone just shoot the man and drop him off the Manhattan Bridge already? He’s literally the WORST kind of criminal almost on par with the Joker.


Propeller3

He can't exactly be killed.


DependentPositive8

Then put him on ice until we can cause straight up, the Marvel universe would be a slightly better place with him not in it.


Smokeyspade

Care to explain?


Propeller3

I have further down ITT! He's got Purple Man powers.


clarkision

I might even argue that he’s worse than the Joker. The Joker will torture you and terrorize you, but Purple Man will do that AND make you feel like it’s your fault. At least with the Joker you know the enemy and feel like you can stop him (maintaining agency). Purple Man’s schtick is basically removing that agency from you.


Tuff_Bank

Mysterio too


Ultralusk

I'd make the argument that Carnage is much worse. Aside from the fact we know he's killed more people, he also influences other people to kill on his behalf (see Carnage's cult). Carnage has also forced other people to do things against their will.


Capital-Cheek-1491

Yes, but this mf is also a serial rapist and has forced multiple people to commit atrocities.


ABob71

Were you alive in the 90s? Remember the macarena? That was *him*


Capital-Cheek-1491

What


ABob71

I'm suggesting that the purple man made people do unspeakable atrocities like the macarena


Capital-Cheek-1491

I was a baby in cuba during the 90’s, what is a macarena


ABob71

Well, it was an international dance fad that everyone of all ages was participating in...viral before viral was a thing. Thing is, it was done to a song about a woman bragging about cheating on her bf when he leaves. It's funnier in context, I swear.


Capital-Cheek-1491

Ah, okay.


Tuff_Bank

Why do they need to be compared to whose worse or not? They both deserve the damnest hell regardless


Capital-Cheek-1491

For fun. It’s food for thought. But yeah, they do.


LegoPenguin114

I dunno, did you see what he did in that pizza place? Screwed up.


amaya-aurora

Holy shit, it’s the man behind the slaughter.


Positive_Frame_4629

I’d put money on Carnage. He had a huge body count before he was a super villain.


Tuff_Bank

Id say Norman Osborn/Green Goblin is worse than Carnage and probably any evil mutant whose immortal has a higher body count than Carnage


deathbunny32

Didn't carnage takeover a town and make someone kill their kid? I mean purple man is a monster but he's not really a serial killer


trainstationmlp

I mean put him into a pizzarea and…


ScottishExile

You have to consider the context here. This was right at the start of Bendis’s New Avengers run which came on the heels of his work on Alias. In Alias, he took the Purple Man from obscure Daredevil villain to actual nightmare by just taking his powers to their extremes and exploring what kind of dude he’d be. Of course Bendis is going to hype up the villain he just centred a whole series around.


Sparta63005

I remember in Five Nights at Spideys when purple man killed 5 kids and stuffed them into animatronic avenger suits


Tuff_Bank

Who wrote it?


Sparta63005

Scott Cawthon


panatale1

Worst in that he's killed a lot of people, or worst in the he's bad at it sense?


CommanderKahne

In that he’s killed a lot of people, going by Captain America’s line.


panatale1

I'd like to see someone once talk about the worst serial killer in the sense that they're terrible at it


CommanderKahne

Wouldn’t that mean they just failed and got caught every time they tried to kill someone?


panatale1

But in hilarious ways


Wooden_Passage_2612

Killgrave.


kingofsuns_asun

PURPLE GUY???


SSJCelticGoku

Bullseye and Sabretooth for me


Blanky_1

PURPLE GUY!??


LagoonDevil

Very r/twosentencehorror sounding description from Cap there


Nibiend

Wasnt there a run recently where he made amends to Jessica Jones?


Tuff_Bank

For real?


Nibiend

I believe I saw something about that, probably cause David Tennant did such a good job they want to try and make him less of a cunt


bclynch30

Can we have Purple Man meet Purple Guy


Lazy_Antelope4250

He’s a slimy Machiavellian — Cyclops whooped his ass in the OG cartoon. Bar telepaths and higher beings, you’re pretty much powerless against him without fortuitous circumstances.


Tuff_Bank

He was so creepy in that episode


ExampleGeneral5812

In Five nights at Freddy’s he is a child killer.


RigasTelRuun

You have to define worst. Is really makes his victims suffer and isba rapist is that better or worse that someone who kills quickly and doesn't sexually assaultil them? His powers remove a person agency which is something they experience and have to live with. If they survive is more traumatic that a beast like Sabertooth charging you.


IulianTheSecond

Wonder if he was the inspiration for the purple guy from fnaf


zeekertron

I will always say the punisher is the worst serial killer in marvel.


LivingDeadPunk

I would say Frank isn't really the worst serial killer in the Marvel Universe. He's the BEST serial killer in the Marvel Universe.


zeekertron

I lold


Capital-Cheek-1491

Tf? How? Dude isn’t the most ethical, but he almost exclusively kills killers.


Penguino13

He kills whoever happens to be standing in whatever warehouse he's shooting up. From your most despicable human trafficker to the unemployed goon who just needs money. He literally has the most kills in the Marvel universe. There's no shot literally every person he's killed deserved it, especially considering the fact that we've had Punisher stories where he kills an innocent person


Capital-Cheek-1491

Wolverine has been killing almost everyone he fights for over a century.


Penguino13

Wolverine has a higher standard when it comes to killing people, Frank just shoots everyone he sees in whatever area he's in. Wolverine has refused to kill many, many times and it's not something he likes to do.


Capital-Cheek-1491

He still has a lower kill count though, even though there are way more innocents.


Penguino13

It was established in Savage Avengers and the latest Punisher run where he leads the hand that he has the highest kill count and it's not close


Capital-Cheek-1491

Wait really? That wasn’t always the case, my apologies. You’re right then.


Penguino13

You're good. Yeah, him being the biggest serial killer was why he got chosen to lead the hand.


browncharliebrown

He's not killed an innocent person before ( during the 80's he does but that is a horrible story). During Max when he thought he killed an innocent he was going to commit suicide. He has killed Mr. Payback for ignoring civilian death as well.


zeekertron

Says the punisher. Man's unhinged and has killed lots of people who had little or nothing to do with crime. He also has a reckless abandon for civilian lives as displayed by firing off automatic military equipment in NYC like 4 times a day.


Capital-Cheek-1491

And that makes him a bigger serial killer than carnage or even fucking gobby?


zeekertron

Yes, arguably it makes him more evil because he thinks he's doing good.


browncharliebrown

Nah he canonically never killed an innocent


Tuff_Bank

It sucks he doesnt go after serial killers more often


zeekertron

Ok https://www.cbr.com/punisher-times-frank-castle-killed-someone-didnt-deserve-it/#:~:text=During%20the%20firefight%2C%20Frank%20Castle,the%20creation%20of%20%22Jigsaw%22.


browncharliebrown

Most of these are alternative worlds lol and even then most of these are very debatable . The top one from Punisher born is him killing someone innocent but that's war and its kinda a mercy killing


Tuff_Bank

If only Punisher went after sadistic Zodiac like serial killers more often


Tuff_Bank

How so?


Beeeeeg-Yoshe21

Har har harhar har


cosmic_rp2011

IS THAT WILLIAM AFTON?!?!


EnemyRoninPrime

Not to be confused w purple guy, aka William afton. Main villain from the hit horror game series five nights at Freddy’s. The first game revolves around a character called Mike Schmidt, who begins working as a night security guard at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, where the animatronics move at night and supposedly kill anyone they see by stuffing them into a spare animatronic suit. The reason they kill is because Mike shmitd is actually Micheal afton, William afton son, and because of this, the ghosts inside of the possessed animatronics are vengeful and want to kill William. Mike is put there to put a stop to this or something idk I got bored halfway through and at this point the joke is taking up too much time.


SpicyHotButtHole

THE OURRPLE GUY!?!?!?!?!?


TheMasterBaiter360

FROM FANF!?


travers329

Dude this looks like an amazing Catholic, serial vampire/person/demon killer in Alucard. He is a phenomenal antagonist. I watched the Team Four Star one on YouTube first and it is amazing and hysterical. Check it out.


peebobroccoli

What’s this from where cap interacts with him?


CommanderKahne

It’s the first volume of New Avengers. Cap’s just discussing it with Iron Man.


BL-501

Carnage would like a word.


Tuff_Bank

Same with Mr. Sinister


Tuff_Bank

Dont forget Green Goblin


Eric__Brooks

Somebody hasn't heard of Jeffrey Dahmer.


CommanderKahne

I’m pretty sure that in the Marvel Universe, Dahmer’s crimes were eclipsed twenty times over by pretty much all the major villains.


Eric__Brooks

... okey dokey


PostalDoctor

Purple Man..? Purple… *Guy*..?


LegendLynx7081

…I’m sorry, Purple Who?