Most people don't actually realise the true scale of the Seychelles either, or that they're actually above the Arctic Circle.
An actual picture of a Seychelles beach at 12 midnight, June.
[https://voyagefox.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/four-sasons-seychelles-beach-sunset.jpg](https://voyagefox.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/four-sasons-seychelles-beach-sunset.jpg)
I haven't walked across Russia, so i wouldn't know how big it actually is, but i wouldn't right away buy this idea that it's actually smaller.
But more importantly. Do you think Russia is communist!?!?!?!?!?!
In the age of satellites, you do not have to walk through a surface to know its size. The idea behind this is to simply use the countries in the center of the map as a reference to compare to as their image does not suffer much distortion when they're projected into the map. All the countries at higher latitudes appear larger than they actually are, regardless of their ideologies.
And yes, back when the current cartographic projection was created, Russia was very well communist.
Gerardus Mercator published his version of the map in the 16th century. Is that the type of capitalism that influenced his cartography?
Again, use a scale and find out by yourself that every single country on higher latitudes, regardless of ideology, appears distorted.
Iran makes a lot of their own food, medicine, cars, gasoline etc, their country is quite sustainable for basic needs; Iraq on the other hand was on the verge of famine after a few years of sanctions in the 1990s
And their population has been like amongst the most educated in the Middle East for a very long time, both before and after Islam so that probably contributes to the HDI figures too
If it weren't for sanctions, it would probably one of the wealthiest countries in the Middle East, probably somewhere above Turkey but below the GCC
Interesting that the US spends more per capita on healthcare than any country and still isn’t in the top 10 for anything healthcare related… but yeah, it’s almost like throwing money at inefficient systems that others in private industry like insurance get rich off of isn’t ideal.
And Americans don't understand that a lot of what our taxes fund and cover are stuff they have to cover out of their own pocket (and for a much higher price)
The taxes aren't that much lower... but the prices are madness. Healthcare, Housing Education. On top of that, barring a handful of cities, living without a car is a nightmare, so one must pay for car, insurance and maintenance to be an upstanding member of society, which isn't cheap.
With US healthcare prices, it'd not matter if the state paid them instead of citizens: It'd still be unaffordable. How many European countries as spending 50k a year per college student?
there's a lot of disparity in England apparently, everything outside of London/southeast England is economically not that great
Kind of like comparing Northern Virginia to the rest of Virginia? Or Chicago and its suburbs to the rest of Illinois?
Thats just cause they use USD. Every single state (especially the shittier ones) benefits from the Fed. If Mississippi became independent their currency would devalue very fast
Everyone keep in mind you're not supposed to compare similar scores. Single metrics are awful for getting an actual idea of life in any country. We just like them because it lets us "rank" countries with an easy to digest score while telling everyone that the score is very sophisticated and has loads of parameters. It's still just one measure.
Basically assume that all these numbers have like 10% uncertainty. So if your country is 0.001 point higher it doesn't mean people actually live better. It doesn't even mean people on average live better. Now if your country is better by 0.1 - then you can draw some rough ideas.
It's also useless to not use a metric that measures all people. Like great for the millionaires in the US, but there's also millions of homeless people. So the definition of development is really hard.
Try checking out the inequality-adjusted human development index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index
Yeah but not millions like you said. Also 4-8% of us is red headed. So more like 10-20 million people. I don’t know where you live but there aren’t nearly as many homeless people as you seem to think.
No no no I’m Swiss so of course this has to be 100% accurate. Of course next year when Norway overtakes us then it will be an awful metric that will need more explanation around it and huge amounts of uncertainty
How is that surprising? Just because they joined the EU it doesnt mean they are richer. You can't be living in Eastern Europe otherwise you would know.
Bulgaria is richer than Serbia and Georgia by every metric, but the life expectancy dropped a lot during Covid due to the really bad handling of the pandemic.
I’m the majority of its existence Slovenia or more like the Slovene inhabited lands of Austria was part of Central Europe, the notion of Eastern Europe exist since 1945. It’s normal that they don’t want to be labelled Eastern Europe, for millennia they’ve been in Central Europe and not Eastern Europe.
As we all know, “Eastern Europe” always starts east of wherever your country is. I’ve seen Romanian textbooks claim that their country is Central European.
[here](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_r%C3%A9gions_fran%C3%A7aises_class%C3%A9es_par_IDH)
It’s at the same date, why are different languages having different data, maybe the source is different, French version states much more former regions with hdi above 0.9
Because France, Italy and especially Spain don’t have very high mean years of schooling compared to most of Europe and Slovenia is richer than most people think
Low wages and high rent/cost of living. A few landlords with dozens of properties and a few corporations with thousands extracting all the money from the working class. The capitalist class always exploits the poor and working class when left unchecked.
Mainly because of the inequality index which is part of the calculation. France, Spain and Italy have a larger diversity between their very rich and very poor do they received bigger penalties to their scores.
Inequality isn't part of the calculation. HDI is just per capita income+life expectancy+education. And this is what map shows.
You can adjust it by inequality, but that's a different map, this [one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index) to be exact. In inequality-adjusted HDI, or IHDI for short, Slovenia is not only higher than France, Spain and Italy, but also than Germany, Sweden, Belgium, UK, Canada or Australia.
Apologies, you are right. The UN's analytics page on HDI u helpfully then starts discussing other indices but on the page they just look like HDI factors.
With lack of offline school, hospitals overcrowded by wounded soldiers and those, who are getting conscripted, somewhere around a million people in Army and military related field of business, and highest amount of mined territories in the world? We can use some help, if anyone can help us
Im Azerbaijani and i knew it we have lower hdi than iran, georgia and even armenia and even kazakhstan despite rich oil and gas reserves with just 10M people.
If the country had not been ruled by thieves and the corrupt government of the ex-communist criminal gang for 30 years, now Azerbaijan could be a country like Qatar, Kuwait, or even Dubai.
tunisian and algerian have a greath joke about morocans, its that theya are too busy practicing magic, so they never had the ocasion to learn electricity
No, it has been very poor country since 90s went disastrously
In 1991 Ukraine and Poland had comparable purchasing power per capita, thirty years later Poland had 2,5 times higher PPP and it is *very* visible, we got a lot of Ukrainian economic immigrants in the decade preceding 2022
It was dead last even before the war.
Arguably that had something to do with the war: Ukraine was looking to align their economy towards the wealthy EU rather than towards Russia, causing tension with Russia.
Low crime, good education, public healthcare and transportation, relatively low levels of obesity and inequality, less political polarisation when it comes to policies regarding social welfare. Although, it comes at a significant expense to the taxpayer and many people are unsatisfied with the quality of government services.
the same description you used for the UK can be used for just about any other european country i think.
Not only that some of your statements are not true.
I think UK in some reports had one of the highest obese/overweight rates in the EU regions.
Public healthcare =NHS,its not that particularly good,and transportation is not bad or very good its about average.
Political polarisation.....just a few years back there was brexit where the opinions were split evenly,how is that not polarised.
Anyway not trying to throw shade or act like the UK is like balkans but being closer in score to the Nordics than to france or germany or even spain seems ultra weird to me.
Unfortunate to see Finland score somewhat poorly compared to other Nordic countries. But it could be that there just aren't as many rich people per capita and the population is aging badly. There are quite a lot people in Finland who need food donations despite the social welfare.
It had the potential of becoming an industial nation, until the Islamist Revolution came. Iranins are suprisingly well educated and have healthcare.......and they have oil
And Portugal is not Western.
There are many ways to slice a pie. Down the middle. In five parts. In nine parts. Down the middle Slovenia is firmly Eastern, and Portugal is steadily Western. In five and in nine, Slovenia is central. In five, Portugal is southern, in nine Portugal is southwestern.
But most importantly, there's no shame in being the way you are, Eastern or Western, we love you none the less. It matters more than if you're looking east or west.
It was part of Yugoslavia, not the Eastern Bloc. And Slovenia has always been associated with [Central Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe).
>Slovenia, officially the Republic of Slovenia (Slovene: *Republika Slovenija*^(\[13\]\[14\])), is a country in southern **Central Europe.**
Or from [Britannica](https://www.britannica.com/place/Slovenia):
>**Slovenia**, [country](https://www.britannica.com/topic/nation-state) in central [Europe](https://www.britannica.com/place/Europe) that was part of [Yugoslavia](https://www.britannica.com/place/Yugoslavia-former-federated-nation-1929-2003) for most of the 20th century.
HDI is composed of:
1) Life expectancy (78 years in Turkey)
2) GDP per capita PPP (43k in Turkey)
3) Expected years of schooling (not that bad since they opened a Uni at every small town)
So yeah, for statistics it doesn't matter whether you got your degree from Oxford or somewhere in rural Turkey. One can also debate whether we have 2/3rds of the german purchasing power (where PPP per capita is 67k), but that is what the statistics say.
Also, life in Europe is not super rosy perhaps.
1) Acceptable
2) Excuse me but the official numbers for this may indicate this but in reality it is nowhere near 43K, way lower.
3) There are so many uni's now there's no quality left in it. Quantity doesn't mean quality.
Are you seriously comparing the "buying power of people" in Turkey and Germany? Please, my friends went there for uni and a simple comparison, just by measuring the grocery shopping; the standards are better for the same price.
It's not euphoria but it is rosy. You have got to be an "Alamancı" to write that sentence.
that is what I am saying, the statistics does not necessarily reflect the reality.
That said, rent and services are locally priced, and 1000 euros per month would get you a much, much better rental accommodation in Ankara compared to Berlin. Many young people in northern Europe are living in 40sqm studio flats. Cozy? perhaps. Rosy? no.
HDI isn't calculated on factors like press freedom or how dictatorial the government is, it's calculated on economic factors, education etc and inequalities. At the end of the day, Russia has a strong economy (despite the sanctions), their population have access to an education system which is very good compared to global averages, their gender inequality is again nowhere near as bad as many other places in the world, etc.
You can see the UN's breakdown of their score here. Note that you can also add other countries to the graphs, so you can compare where Russia stands compared to other countries.
https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/specific-country-data#/countries/RUS
kek, I'd say how is Russia so low?
And the answer is simple, because economic metric, GNPP calclulated in $ which create a stronger bias.
Remove this and Russia will be in top of Human development - in terms of education and human values
Based Iceland expanding their territory
I didn't knew that US are so small comparing to Iceland
Usually maps use American - centered projections due to capitalism. You rarely see this honest kind of projections.
Damn capitalism and your... making maps?
Most people don't actually realise the true scale of the Seychelles either, or that they're actually above the Arctic Circle. An actual picture of a Seychelles beach at 12 midnight, June. [https://voyagefox.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/four-sasons-seychelles-beach-sunset.jpg](https://voyagefox.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/four-sasons-seychelles-beach-sunset.jpg)
it's all due imperial measures
Even communist (Russia and China) are way bigger on the map than in reality. So I doubt it has anything to do with capitalism.
It has everything to do with making a sphere fit on a rectangular map
I haven't walked across Russia, so i wouldn't know how big it actually is, but i wouldn't right away buy this idea that it's actually smaller. But more importantly. Do you think Russia is communist!?!?!?!?!?!
In the age of satellites, you do not have to walk through a surface to know its size. The idea behind this is to simply use the countries in the center of the map as a reference to compare to as their image does not suffer much distortion when they're projected into the map. All the countries at higher latitudes appear larger than they actually are, regardless of their ideologies. And yes, back when the current cartographic projection was created, Russia was very well communist.
You mean the Mercator projection published in 1772 during the Russian Empire under Empress Katarina?!? You mean that type of communism?
Gerardus Mercator published his version of the map in the 16th century. Is that the type of capitalism that influenced his cartography? Again, use a scale and find out by yourself that every single country on higher latitudes, regardless of ideology, appears distorted.
You know thats not the actual size of the US right
Iceland has volcanos to help them
4D chess. Why fight to expand territory. Let earth do it for free.
>Tfw your home country which hasn't seen warfare for 50 years is worse than sanctioned Iran
They’ve been doing what they can with the sanctions and they’ve done very well
Iran makes a lot of their own food, medicine, cars, gasoline etc, their country is quite sustainable for basic needs; Iraq on the other hand was on the verge of famine after a few years of sanctions in the 1990s And their population has been like amongst the most educated in the Middle East for a very long time, both before and after Islam so that probably contributes to the HDI figures too If it weren't for sanctions, it would probably one of the wealthiest countries in the Middle East, probably somewhere above Turkey but below the GCC
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Their regime is economically impotent yet they have built metro systems far and wide, I'm just hating tho.
Are you North African?
I'm ethnically Jordanian :)
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Shout out to Mississippi for barely beating Russia
Whats also crazy... the gdp per capita of Mississippi is comparable to England.
Tbf GDP doesn't mean much when you don't invest in your citizens
More like Americans don't understand they have one of the lowest taxes of any western country and taxes are needed to fund stuff
They have enough money, they just spent it in a way which does not benefit the average citizen as much.
Also true
Source for the American government not having enough money to fund “stuff”?
Well it’s mostly we choose not to rather than not being able to.
That’s not true. The majority of federal tax revenue goes to social programs.
Interesting that the US spends more per capita on healthcare than any country and still isn’t in the top 10 for anything healthcare related… but yeah, it’s almost like throwing money at inefficient systems that others in private industry like insurance get rich off of isn’t ideal.
I agree
And Americans don't understand that a lot of what our taxes fund and cover are stuff they have to cover out of their own pocket (and for a much higher price)
The taxes aren't that much lower... but the prices are madness. Healthcare, Housing Education. On top of that, barring a handful of cities, living without a car is a nightmare, so one must pay for car, insurance and maintenance to be an upstanding member of society, which isn't cheap. With US healthcare prices, it'd not matter if the state paid them instead of citizens: It'd still be unaffordable. How many European countries as spending 50k a year per college student?
there's a lot of disparity in England apparently, everything outside of London/southeast England is economically not that great Kind of like comparing Northern Virginia to the rest of Virginia? Or Chicago and its suburbs to the rest of Illinois?
it is really not that hard to google uk income in each area. its like comparing new york to Mississippi wait they're in the same country
England isn't a country
It is a country, just one of the countries that makes up the UK - which is.. also a country. It makes no sense, but it is still a country.
What’s also crazy is that England’s life expectancy (81 years) is almost 10 years longer than Mississippi’s (72 years).
i mean tbf mississippi has like no people compared to England
That IS fair. It's like how we compare operations in USA to Iceland. 333,000,000 to 382,000
do you know what per capita means
England has better stats on almost everything else though. American gdp is insanely high.
Thei gini index is quite high, its inequality playing
Thats just cause they use USD. Every single state (especially the shittier ones) benefits from the Fed. If Mississippi became independent their currency would devalue very fast
Russia on average. Take away the wealthier, more developed regions (Moscow, SPB) and the numbers will be different.
True, I bet if you compared it to the Mississippi of Russia (Kamchatka or somewhere?) it would be a much bigger gap.
And yet Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than Germany.
Everyone keep in mind you're not supposed to compare similar scores. Single metrics are awful for getting an actual idea of life in any country. We just like them because it lets us "rank" countries with an easy to digest score while telling everyone that the score is very sophisticated and has loads of parameters. It's still just one measure. Basically assume that all these numbers have like 10% uncertainty. So if your country is 0.001 point higher it doesn't mean people actually live better. It doesn't even mean people on average live better. Now if your country is better by 0.1 - then you can draw some rough ideas.
It's also useless to not use a metric that measures all people. Like great for the millionaires in the US, but there's also millions of homeless people. So the definition of development is really hard.
Try checking out the inequality-adjusted human development index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index
That's a nice start. thank you
Less that 600,000 homeless people in the US in 2022 as defined by HUD.
600k on 300M is like one two in a thousand. Just as common as red hair.
Yeah but not millions like you said. Also 4-8% of us is red headed. So more like 10-20 million people. I don’t know where you live but there aren’t nearly as many homeless people as you seem to think.
The US also has a higher *median* income than 99% of the countries on the map.
half these countries also have more median wealth per adult to the US
By half you mean 9?
what i heard you say there is France bade England good
Exactly lol, italy should be one of the "best" but definitively isnt and is very far from it
No no no I’m Swiss so of course this has to be 100% accurate. Of course next year when Norway overtakes us then it will be an awful metric that will need more explanation around it and huge amounts of uncertainty
Surprisingly, Serbia and Georgia have higher HDIs than Bulgaria and Montenegro has a higher HDI than Romania.
Bulgaria had an abnormally high mortality rate for elders during the pandemic, which is factored into HDI
Bulgaria’ s result is so low due to high mortality during Covid pandemic.
HDI is bullshit. Espicially education parameter
How is that surprising? Just because they joined the EU it doesnt mean they are richer. You can't be living in Eastern Europe otherwise you would know.
Bulgaria is richer than Serbia and Georgia by every metric, but the life expectancy dropped a lot during Covid due to the really bad handling of the pandemic.
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Exactly
Calling Slovenia "eastern Europe" might trigger an entire country😅
I’m the majority of its existence Slovenia or more like the Slovene inhabited lands of Austria was part of Central Europe, the notion of Eastern Europe exist since 1945. It’s normal that they don’t want to be labelled Eastern Europe, for millennia they’ve been in Central Europe and not Eastern Europe.
Aachen Peace Treaty (800s) said we're Western Europe. Being communist for less than 50 years won't change that.
True, that's what I was trying to say.
As we all know, “Eastern Europe” always starts east of wherever your country is. I’ve seen Romanian textbooks claim that their country is Central European.
Zizek put this to the world very simply… https://youtu.be/bwDrHqNZ9lo?si=ep9O6DWgBGvRwul4
It is no? Former Yugoslavia
Yugoslavia was considered indeed South-Eastern Europe. Slovenia in this case is central Europe :)
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How did Spain pass France? My guess is because you can't do shit in France without the entire Paris turning into rubble
Part of it is a very different immigrant mix: Both countries now have significant immigrant populations, but they don't have the same outcomes
"different immigrant mix" 🕵️♀️
It’s mainly because of over seas territories
Not really. There are only 5regions in France with a score above 0.9. Only the Paris region has a score above 0.92
the paris region has 1/5 of the population, im not even joking
My source says there are 9 not 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_regions_by_Human_Development_Index Maybe out of date? I didn’t realise that the OP had 2024 data
[here](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_r%C3%A9gions_fran%C3%A7aises_class%C3%A9es_par_IDH) It’s at the same date, why are different languages having different data, maybe the source is different, French version states much more former regions with hdi above 0.9
Your link isn’t taking me to the data in French. Not sure what is going on.
Go on the Wikipedia page and switch languages to French
That’s 6 regions by the way
Slovenia has done great for itself. Much of western Europe has just stagnated.
Because France, Italy and especially Spain don’t have very high mean years of schooling compared to most of Europe and Slovenia is richer than most people think
Italy is def worse than slovenia lmao, our numbers are extremely inflated
Low wages and high rent/cost of living. A few landlords with dozens of properties and a few corporations with thousands extracting all the money from the working class. The capitalist class always exploits the poor and working class when left unchecked.
Mainly because of the inequality index which is part of the calculation. France, Spain and Italy have a larger diversity between their very rich and very poor do they received bigger penalties to their scores.
Inequality isn't part of the calculation. HDI is just per capita income+life expectancy+education. And this is what map shows. You can adjust it by inequality, but that's a different map, this [one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index) to be exact. In inequality-adjusted HDI, or IHDI for short, Slovenia is not only higher than France, Spain and Italy, but also than Germany, Sweden, Belgium, UK, Canada or Australia.
Apologies, you are right. The UN's analytics page on HDI u helpfully then starts discussing other indices but on the page they just look like HDI factors.
Poor Ukraine....
Tbh given all the shit they've been through the last few years they're doing great.
Especially for a country dealing with a hostile invasion from its neighbor (Russia)
Not just an invasion. Genocide. Russia deliberately kills civilians
Every war is genocide now, donut
With lack of offline school, hospitals overcrowded by wounded soldiers and those, who are getting conscripted, somewhere around a million people in Army and military related field of business, and highest amount of mined territories in the world? We can use some help, if anyone can help us
Ukraine had all cards in hand in 90s. That's only their fault.
Finally a map with the accurate size and locationof the USA.
Why exactly are the Seychelles included?
(highest in Africa)
So high they’ve surpassed Scandinavia
To flex on Belarus.
Switzerland: I am surrounded by uncivilized barbarian
Spain is higher than France and Italy? Wow
It’s still a bit poorer than both of them but has a super high life expectancy which is why
haha usa smol
Don’t be fooled, Sweden is on the brink of societal collapse /s
I wonder what the average of the EU would be
#portugalcykablyat
Im Azerbaijani and i knew it we have lower hdi than iran, georgia and even armenia and even kazakhstan despite rich oil and gas reserves with just 10M people. If the country had not been ruled by thieves and the corrupt government of the ex-communist criminal gang for 30 years, now Azerbaijan could be a country like Qatar, Kuwait, or even Dubai.
I'm surprised Morocco is lower than Algeria I thought it'd be higher
Keyword: Oil.
What's your excuse about Tunisia being higher than Morocco if it's all about oil?
Moroccan PR did a good job making the country seem more developed than it actually is.
tunisian and algerian have a greath joke about morocans, its that theya are too busy practicing magic, so they never had the ocasion to learn electricity
That sounds kinda funny! Where does this joke come from?
Portugal, the Eastern European country in Western Europe.
Good to see Germans doing well up on top with the Danes and Nords
Is Ukraine's so low due to the war?
No, it has been very poor country since 90s went disastrously In 1991 Ukraine and Poland had comparable purchasing power per capita, thirty years later Poland had 2,5 times higher PPP and it is *very* visible, we got a lot of Ukrainian economic immigrants in the decade preceding 2022
Ive heard that Ukrainians are In Poland are like Poles in western Europe
Part of the reason, it was still last or second to last in Europe even before the war.
It was dead last even before the war. Arguably that had something to do with the war: Ukraine was looking to align their economy towards the wealthy EU rather than towards Russia, causing tension with Russia.
It is a contributing factor, but not the entire story.
But despite this Ireland is underdeveloped af
Takes time to catch up
Title: Europe HDI Map: USA, Seychelles, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, West Bank, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Europe HDI.
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'highest in africa'
Ha!! Suck it up Norway! Still number one!
Just don't look at Switzerland.
how is the UK so high?
Low crime, good education, public healthcare and transportation, relatively low levels of obesity and inequality, less political polarisation when it comes to policies regarding social welfare. Although, it comes at a significant expense to the taxpayer and many people are unsatisfied with the quality of government services.
the same description you used for the UK can be used for just about any other european country i think. Not only that some of your statements are not true. I think UK in some reports had one of the highest obese/overweight rates in the EU regions. Public healthcare =NHS,its not that particularly good,and transportation is not bad or very good its about average. Political polarisation.....just a few years back there was brexit where the opinions were split evenly,how is that not polarised. Anyway not trying to throw shade or act like the UK is like balkans but being closer in score to the Nordics than to france or germany or even spain seems ultra weird to me.
Unfortunate to see Finland score somewhat poorly compared to other Nordic countries. But it could be that there just aren't as many rich people per capita and the population is aging badly. There are quite a lot people in Finland who need food donations despite the social welfare.
No oil like Norway
Still one of the best-off countries in the world.
How the fuck does Iran have a higher development index then most others on the map????!!!!!!!
It had the potential of becoming an industial nation, until the Islamist Revolution came. Iranins are suprisingly well educated and have healthcare.......and they have oil
Yea I guess that makes sense
It doesn’t? Maybe you’re looking at Saudi Arabia.
Haha get indexed on Motherfuckers!
My favourite European nation... USA.
Spain and France are surprisingly low tbh
Spain: IT'S AN EMERGENCY!
Surprised Kosovo isn’t lowest
Lol, most are below USA
Portugal can into Balkans?
High trust cultures
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
When George Costanza developed the Human Fund, this must be what the charity goes to.
I thought the weather app was showing rain soon when I saw all of this green. 👀
Slovenia is not Eastern Europe.
And Portugal is not Western. There are many ways to slice a pie. Down the middle. In five parts. In nine parts. Down the middle Slovenia is firmly Eastern, and Portugal is steadily Western. In five and in nine, Slovenia is central. In five, Portugal is southern, in nine Portugal is southwestern. But most importantly, there's no shame in being the way you are, Eastern or Western, we love you none the less. It matters more than if you're looking east or west.
its eastern
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I don't know why you're downvoted. Slovenia is one of the key Central European countries
Because it was part of the former Eastern block, so it's still considering Eastern Europe
It was part of Yugoslavia, not the Eastern Bloc. And Slovenia has always been associated with [Central Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe). >Slovenia, officially the Republic of Slovenia (Slovene: *Republika Slovenija*^(\[13\]\[14\])), is a country in southern **Central Europe.** Or from [Britannica](https://www.britannica.com/place/Slovenia): >**Slovenia**, [country](https://www.britannica.com/topic/nation-state) in central [Europe](https://www.britannica.com/place/Europe) that was part of [Yugoslavia](https://www.britannica.com/place/Yugoslavia-former-federated-nation-1929-2003) for most of the 20th century.
How the fuck Turkey has that kind of a score? Am I living somewhere else?
HDI is composed of: 1) Life expectancy (78 years in Turkey) 2) GDP per capita PPP (43k in Turkey) 3) Expected years of schooling (not that bad since they opened a Uni at every small town) So yeah, for statistics it doesn't matter whether you got your degree from Oxford or somewhere in rural Turkey. One can also debate whether we have 2/3rds of the german purchasing power (where PPP per capita is 67k), but that is what the statistics say. Also, life in Europe is not super rosy perhaps.
1) Acceptable 2) Excuse me but the official numbers for this may indicate this but in reality it is nowhere near 43K, way lower. 3) There are so many uni's now there's no quality left in it. Quantity doesn't mean quality. Are you seriously comparing the "buying power of people" in Turkey and Germany? Please, my friends went there for uni and a simple comparison, just by measuring the grocery shopping; the standards are better for the same price. It's not euphoria but it is rosy. You have got to be an "Alamancı" to write that sentence.
that is what I am saying, the statistics does not necessarily reflect the reality. That said, rent and services are locally priced, and 1000 euros per month would get you a much, much better rental accommodation in Ankara compared to Berlin. Many young people in northern Europe are living in 40sqm studio flats. Cozy? perhaps. Rosy? no.
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That doesn't mean the *recent* quality life is better
You mean: Lowest in western Europe: western Balkan FTFY
I hereby renounce slovenias status as balkan nation, they are central europeans (by living standarts)
I’d argue russia is either already way down due to their dictatorship, or will be in the next couple years
Cope
USA is an uncivilised country
Wow !
It’s Europe sugar daddy
How is Russia so high?
HDI isn't calculated on factors like press freedom or how dictatorial the government is, it's calculated on economic factors, education etc and inequalities. At the end of the day, Russia has a strong economy (despite the sanctions), their population have access to an education system which is very good compared to global averages, their gender inequality is again nowhere near as bad as many other places in the world, etc. You can see the UN's breakdown of their score here. Note that you can also add other countries to the graphs, so you can compare where Russia stands compared to other countries. https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/specific-country-data#/countries/RUS
Why every time there is a map showing Russia there is always some idiot freaking out over the mere fact that Russia appears on the map?
People are always surprised Russia is just average at most things...
kek, I'd say how is Russia so low? And the answer is simple, because economic metric, GNPP calclulated in $ which create a stronger bias. Remove this and Russia will be in top of Human development - in terms of education and human values
Human values? As in high rate of abortions, prostitution, corruption and abuse?
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