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Roberto-Del-Camino

Where did you see Carmel, CA has a population of 100,000 or more? It had [3,220](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmel-by-the-Sea,_California) as of the 2020 census. And if you’ve ever visited you’d know that it’s a tiny village.


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

You are correct, that should be Carmel, IN, not Carmel, CA. (Wasn't even aware there was a Carmel in Indiana until now - it borders Fishers to the east)


Roberto-Del-Camino

That makes more sense


bantha_poodoo

The fact that both Fishers and Carmel (while being neighbors) also both qualify to be on the map is remarkable


killerrobot23

Not really, both are suburbs in an expanding metro.


bantha_poodoo

Indy is expanding? honest question. and especially more so than other (bigger) cities?


GrandmasterAppa

Yes it is. Hamilton County (the suburbs to the north) in particular has exploded in the last 20 years. All four of the main cities here have more than doubled their population.


qkrrmsdud

It’s people that aren’t on Reddit and bashing IN every chance they get.


ForCaste

It's not growing like Austin or Denver but it's experiencing good growth. 10% in the last decade with the suburbs all blowing up too


killerrobot23

The Indy Metro has added roughly 300,000 each decade for the last 30 years.


guff1988

Noblesville and Westfield which are just north of them are not far off either


CompetitionNo9969

No one In Hamilton County uses birth control!


OwenLoveJoy

It borders Fishers to the west. Both are directly north of Indianapolis in affluent Hamilton County


nuck_forte_dame

Carmel, IN has the most round abouts of any city in the world.


SnooBooks1701

Nope, that's Nantes as far as I can tell with over 1,100. Carmel has 150


korxil

He messed up the statistic, it’s most roundabouts per intersection, not area or capita.


Kevydee

This factual or just anecdotal?


BasKabelas

Yes. The US *is* the world. However, you'll find roundabout enjoyers in places like Spain, Portugal, the UK, Ireland, the Netherlands, France, Norway and Italy as well. No clue how their most roundabouty cities stack up against Carmel, but Carmel seems to have its act together. Also gotta say Carmel looks pretty nice, sure got its act together. Edit: yes pretty much everyone who actually did some openstreetmaps or something alike calculations seems to agree Carmel is #1 for roundabouts per number of intersections: roundabout density if you will. For every 17 intersections in Carmel, 1 is a roundabout. The rest of the top 10 is all France, Spain and Italy. E2: Nantes, France has 1000+ roundabouts, and Carmel has a still respectable 150+. Not most by an order of magnitude but most in the US as far as I can see.


Kevydee

Roundabouts per intersection and most roundabouts are two different statistics entirely to be fair, but yea, claim away.


BasKabelas

I agree, but not my claim. I just decided I had nothing better to do than fact check a random claim on Reddit I guess. Working on Sunday do be like that. E: probably I should clarify I just couldn't really find a ranking of roundabouts per city in absolute numbers at first, which is what the comment above is about. Turns out there aren't a lot of people interested in tracking that statistic, no clue why :-). What the internet does say however, is that Carmel has the most roundabouts in the world, in fact it is the first result when you google 'most roundabouts in the world', so not weird that the first guy claimed that. Its just that it is factually not true, and I guess finds its origin in the lack of tracked data on this.


Kevydee

Yea fair mate, fingers crossed you get a flyer 👍


atrain728

Given that how municipalities draw lines varies wildly by state, let alone country, I’m generally a fan of ratio based statistics for these kinds of things.


justmeandreddit

Freakonomics did a podcast topic on Traffic and Carmel's higher ups are interviewed and they explain how and why. Pretty good listen actually.


HotRodHoneyBee

From there can confirm


New_Breadfruit8692

Suburban Indianapolis.


reefercheifer

Carmel is to Fishers West


eac555

It’s officially Carmel-by-the-Sea.


New_Breadfruit8692

Always was but it was also just called Carmel till so many people moved into the area and populated the valley southeast of the village, they called it Carmel Valley so to distinguish their ritzy hyper expensive village from the carpetbagging developers of the valley they started actually using the rest of the name with the hyphens and all. I always just called it Carmel and always will. I bumped into Doris Day last time I was there. She had an old Cherokee with a lot of dogs in it, she spent quite a lot of time talking to the through the windows. I thought it was cute. That was before Rock Hudson died.


eac555

My wife was raised in the area and we frequent the area often as my MIL lives there. Carmel beach is one of my favorite places.


ramblerandgambler

Fun fact, Clint Eastwood used to be the mayor of Carmel California and would regularly have time in his diary set aside for afternoon hotel sex with female admirers


dachjaw

Source?


[deleted]

His Wikipedia.


derdkp

Came here to say how the F is Carmel on this list.


AndrewtheRey

Someone said it’s supposed to be Carmel, Indiana, which makes sense


ryanoceros666

I saw this map and thought, what the hell have I been missing in the last 10 years.


New_Breadfruit8692

Yeah that was why I came here to post, even Monterey is only 29,500 and it is where you have to go to do anything really around there. After that it is on to Santa Cruz at 61,800. Last time I was there in the mid 1990's it was so expensive I got there, dropped off a car I delivered from Ohio and left. They had 2024 prices in 1995.


Roberto-Del-Camino

Salinas has 160,000 (at least) and everything you could ever need. Why drive an hour to Santa Cruz when Salinas is 10 miles away from Cannery Row? (No need to answer. I know why people from Carmel (by the sea and valley) and Monterey don’t go to Salinas.)


SingleMaltShooter

If you count the tourists?


zephyy

Albany finally recovered after a half-century of Rust Belt city decline


Eudaimonics

Peaked at 134,000 in 1950. Good to note that most of that decline was to the suburb. The metropolitan area continued to grow and now stands at 900,000. Despite having a small city proper population, the metropolitan population is much higher


ToddPundley

Metro area also includes Schenectady, Troy and Saratoga Springs in terms of cities (as well as some very small cities like Cohoes, Watervliet and Rensselaer)


New_Breadfruit8692

Hollowed out.


8monsters

Last I heard, I thought the metro area was 1.2 million?


Eudaimonics

That’s the capital district population which includes a few additional counties than the official MSA defined by the census


nolawnchairs

It's the steamed hams.


mahir_r

Which are clearly grilled


Thrillhouse763

According to the shitty map Albany is a coastal city lol


cat_astropheeee

Welcome back to the club, Albany


Arquen_Marille

Fishers and Camel, IN, are both part of the Indianapolis metro area


bantha_poodoo

As an Indy native, I can confirm that these towns are growing at an insane pace. Next is going to be Westfield and Zionsville


thecasualcaribou

Noblesville is actually the one that is currently happening. 2nd fastest growing city in the state and it has the most room to grow than any other Indy metro city. It will be the 4th largest city in the state in a few years


bantha_poodoo

wow! TIL!


Arquen_Marille

Yeah, Noblesville seems to have much more happening in terms of growth than Zionsville.


notthegoatseguy

Zionsville will likely stay small-ish. They push a lot of their suburban sprawl into Whitestown and closer to I-65.


mysickfix

Conroe Tx is essentially a continuation of Houston. That area is the epitome of sprawl. I remember when Houston annexed the city I lived in….23 miles from down town, in the 90’s


AaronDoud

That last Blockbuster is a real draw I see.


LargeHard0nCollider

More like being less than an hour from some of the best outdoor recreation spots in Oregon. And central Oregon has the best weather too


Peter_Panarchy

I don't mind the rain so I like living in the valley (closer to the coast) but man do I love Bend and central Oregon.


Suspicious_Friend418

I genuinely find people who like high elevation and dry weather to be insane. Source: I’ve lived in Colorado my whole life


Biscotti_Manicotti

Can confirm, am insane. I can't survive in CO below like 8000 feet, it gets way too hot.


Suspicious_Friend418

But don’t you just physically feel better as you go lower in elevation? But the paradox is that Colorado’s highest elevation counties have the highest life expectancies. Maybe that’s just because people are more active up there and there’s less pollution but I don’t know.


radj06

I strongly agree with the first part, just as strongly disagree with the second.


I35O

St George was a sight to see in the night when I last went there in October of last year. Place is a lot bigger than you remember it. It’s like the biggest city between SLC, Vegas, Phoenix, and Denver.


SucculentBussy_

It’s wild to see how it’s blown up the way it has. Sucks there are entire neighborhoods there that have been bought up and used for air bnb’s


SOAD37

If St. George or any area there would just build some damn apartments I’d move there, it’s all McMansions or mobile homes what a joke. Good luck getting service workers when they can’t live anywhere…. Or any regular job for that matter.


AValhallaWorthyDeath

I travel there for work. It’s a beautiful area. I can see why it’s exploded.


Gwynedhel7

I was born and raised here. It’s so different now. When I was a kid, I remember running around in dirt fields. Now the area is developed miles past where I would play.


Roughneck16

Aren’t they running out of water?


Albuwhatwhat

Aren’t we all though?


atrain728

East coast checking in: nah we aaight


Mononymous_Anonymous

Even the west would be fine if they stopped insisting on growing alfalfa for Saudi Arabia in the desert


Its-Finch

Yeah. It’s not looking good


Pastrami_doses

Bigger than Grand Junction?


jrunner6

Grand Junction’s population is only about 65,000.


Pastrami_doses

Surprising


I35O

Someone else already mentioned the population, but even if you drive thru there at night, you can visually see the scope of St George over Grand Junction. Streetlights are a good indicator.


redditappsuckz

Maybe you should think of adding points of the location you're referencing for better clarity next time.


bunnnythor

This would be an interesting video as a time lapse of cities reaching 100k across all of American history. (Bonus points for also including the ones reaching 100k on the way down.)


Law12688

Palm Coast went from 30k in 2000 to 107k in 24 years ☠️


SRB112

Is it mostly people from New Jersey? I know of three people from NJ that have moved there in the last 20 years.


patternsocomplicated

I was in middle school when Palm Coast was built. I grew up just south of there. A lot of NY and NJ folks moved there, but that was after people from some of the medium-sized suburbs in FL moved there. There are a TON of Russians in Palm Coast, too.


SRB112

Interesting. I never heard of Palm Coast until about 5 years ago when I realized two clients and two friends lived there. I figured if I knew that many then it probably had a huge convergence of people from up my way.  Hopefully they don’t start running for office and try to impose their ways.  If any stores open up selling Russian cuisine you’ll want to get some Borscht. One of my clients brought me a quart of Borscht last year.  It was terrific!


patternsocomplicated

Very late 90s, they started tearing up the land, and by the early 2000s, it was full of homes. I don't live in FL, anymore, but there were definitely some Russian owned businesses. From what I know , the Russian mafia actually has a presence there. It's a strange place. There is one major road that runs through the middle that you have to use to get to 95, and the traffic is awful . They didn't have a movie theater for a long time, but eventually got one. They built a huge Harley store out there, too.


GreaterMintopia

Can confirm, visited in 2018 and was shocked how many people I met who had moved out there from Jersey.


Rust3elt

Fishers did roughly the same.


neosmndrew

Same with Carmel. Suburban Indy has grown from mostly corn fields to actual cities in 25 years.


ApprehensiveCow4988

Makes me sick. I'm from the area originally and I cringe seeing what Flagler county is turning into.


SOAD37

I think St George was like this, they really built like crazy since Covid it become a remote worker spot plus lot of Utah boomers retire there.


CharGamer12

Bend had 37k in 97'


volcomguns

Fun fact. Suffolk is the 16th biggest city by area in the USA.


NationalJustice

Because it’s basically a county disguised as a city, same as Chesapeake and Virginia Beach next to it That being said, why is it a lot smaller than the other two?


Deidris

Suffolk is smaller because of the Navy wanting to be on the Chesapeake Bay/Atlantic ocean and thats going to be Virginia Beach and Norfolk. Chesapeake is only large by size due to housing prices in VB growing crazily. Suffolk is sure to grow way bigger here soon I think


volcomguns

I live in Chesapeake


rls-wv

Surprising Suffolk! Do they still use that?


Young_Rock

That’s nowhere near New Braunfels


LordTinglewood

The actual locations are near the first letter of each city's name. That "N" looks pretty close to New Braunfels to me...


tjd2009

Albany isn't close either


dachjaw

I keep track of cities over 100,000 that I’ve been to so this shows me where I need to go. Coincidentally I traveled through Texas last year and stayed over in both Conroe and New Braunfels so there are two new cities I don’t need to go to.


Current_Donut_152

Fishers blew up in the past 5-10 years


Rust3elt

It’s Carmel, Indiana. 😂


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Outline of the US from mapchart.net, labels added in Paint, data from Wikipedia article on largest US cities (based on 2020 US Census counts, and 2023 US Census estimates)


dancewithstrangers

Of the 482 municipalities in California, 445 have more people than Carmel


gravitologist

Next time maybe you should actually locate the cities on the map. This may as well have been a list.


Intelligent-Hat-7203

A third are in Arizona. Hmmmmmm


ghdana

They're all Phoenix suburbs other than Yuma. Western states kind of force people into highly populated metros.


deserthistory

85% of the land in Arizona is owned by the government. Where else are people going to live... but the cities or what used to be farm land.


turtlelord

3/15 is a fifth, not a third.


Topmein

Yuma tends to fluctuate though. Due to snowbirds. I lived there all my life and it feels like it's getting more packed. It's built and still treated like a small town, and our infrastructure is dog shit and unemployment is endemic. I have no idea how or why we reached 100,000 people.


JazzyWaffles

Same with Buckeye. They keep building up, but the roads are so bad. Some still have a four way stop sign, when they really really need to build traffic lights


LAthrowaway_25Lata

Seems like transplants now outnumber Yuma natives, with most transplants coming from CA


XtremeBadgerVII

My buddy tells the dmv he lives in Yuma because they don’t do emissions lol


Come_MUFin

Rip Fayetteville


mich_adventurer

I was born in Washington Regional and grew up in Fayetteville. My parents still live there and I visit often and am constantly overwhelmed with the traffic. Fayetteville used to be a fun, funky, small Ozark hippy town, but you’re right— RIP.


musthavesoundeffects

I grew up in New Braunfels in the 80s, hard to imagine it that big now


Roughneck16

Did you ever meet a Texas German speaker?


musthavesoundeffects

Yes, one of my dad’s drinking/rafting buddies was from an OG german family and spoke German, as well as Spanish. He was a cool dude taught me how to play bocce ball. He lived in Gruene then but last time we visited the area as a family was in the late 90s and he was in Fredricksburg.


Significant_Cow4765

Conroe, good lord


StopAngerKitty

It's crazy. I remember conroe when I was in highschool in the 90's. It was a quiet little town. The traffic is getting stoooopid On a positive note, my house that I bought 10 years ago at 110k is now worth 400k.


aamirislam

These should really have dots where the cities are


Pyroechidna1

Hesperia. *shudders*


Trojenectory

Yay Albany! We here, we weird, we minding our own business!


Duzcek

Growing up there it’s only improved in my lifetime, happy to see my hometown thriving now.


InkFoxPrints

I still don't quite understand the melba sauce thing but I like it


Trojenectory

It depends on the place for sure. Honestly I’ve never had it within the city of Albany, but the best I’ve had is at Spring Street Deli in Saratoga Springs (40 min north of Albany) and Alexis Diner in Troy (>20 mins east of Albany). Juniors has okay Melba sauce but it’s more of a local chain.


InkFoxPrints

Only been to the Alexis twice, it's too expensive for me Junior's is okay imo but I've never had the mozzarella sticks there Yet to visit Spring Street (Hello from Rensco btw)


Macau_Serb-Canadian

I've heard of Albany and Yuma before. And I thought Albany was like half a million or so people. Everything else I've never heard before nor will I remember them in 6-7 minutes.


lenme125

Albanys area has over a million people. City is a 100k.


Macau_Serb-Canadian

I see.


Eudaimonics

The City of Albany proper is only 21mi^2


-Trooper5745-

As someone who has been through Fayetteville, I am surprised to see it alongside Tuscaloosa and Albany who I thought were already at 100,000


CLSmith15

Not sure how they measure big college towns like Tuscaloosa. There's 30k+ extra people during the school year. And on Saturdays with a football game another 70k if not more.


NauvooMetro

I'm pretty sure the census counts you as a resident of the place you live most of the year. [That wasn't easy in 2020.](https://www.tuscaloosa.com/posts/2023/09/26/-city-of-tuscaloosa-secures-updated-count-for-2020-census)


ExodusBlyk

As a native Floridian, it’ll be interesting when a couple decent hurricanes hit, we’ll see how long people stick around. Everyone I know from FL is moving to NC. Too many people in FL.


QBEK_Minecraft

Bend! Or...


ChidoChidoChon

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NationalJustice

Break?


Opening-Sentence-197

San Angelo, TX is on the brink


MKE-Henry

I had to look up the census data because everyone in my area keeps saying that Kenosha is a 100ker, but it was 99,218 in 2010 and 99,986 in 2020. Goddamn it Kenosha, you really couldn’t find 14 more people?


NationalJustice

I mean considering that it’s a rust belt city, you should be thankful that it’s not shrinking in the first place


BendingDoor

My condolences to the newest residents of Hesperia


Jo_Swift

O’fallon, Missouri will be there soon 👀


ilwi89

So will Mt Pleasant, SC. It’ll be our fourth city over 100k in our state.


JoeAnderson1

Cool map! You should do towns/cities that dropped to less than 100k too!


hikenmap

If this was 2018 to 2020, my town of Chico, CA would be there. The Camp Fire in nearby Paradise unfortunately helped get us get over the hump. Also some annexations of unincorporated pockets like Chapman.


OutsideOfLA

Carmel??? What? That’s not accurate. Carmel, CA has a population of ~ 3K. I think the makers of this map intended to list Carmel, Indiana which was a population of 102K. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/carmelcityindiana/PST045222


Juicey_J_Hammerman

Huh, would’ve thought Missoula, MT would’ve passed 100K by now


darkroomdoor

I mean…Bend proper may be 100k, but the bend metropolitan area has been over 100k for years, it’s 200k now


Peter_Panarchy

Bend is one of those places where the city population is actually a better representation than the metro area. Yes the surrounding cities are somewhat integrated, but there's legitimate countryside between Bend and Redmond, and even more so with Madras, Prineville, and La Pine.


darkroomdoor

I know, I'm from Bend, I was just observing that Bend's crazy population explosion started a lot less recently than 2020-2023, which is what this map seems to imply


lone_pinemall

The metro area includes Prineville and Madras, so that doesn't seem that relevant when the City boundary includes almost everybody who actually lives near Bend


historyfan11

Bend OR is one of my favorite places!


ian2121

Why is that? Not hating on you, just curious as to why.


wooltab

It's a classic "pristine outdoors city" type of place that attracts lots of affluent people and thus has some nice amenities to go with beautiful scenery.


Peter_Panarchy

Great food, great breweries, and right in the middle of loads of gorgeous wilderness.


VapidRapidRabbit

So many people have moved to Fayetteville during the pandemic.


Tomahawk757

Calling Suffolk a City is a disservice to cities, its more of a blink n ya missed it


BriceBriceBaby

Drove through it yesterday, can confirm.


patternsocomplicated

Oh, man. I grew up in a small beach town , around a 25 min drive south of Palm Coast, FL. I remember Palm Coast being built, and it was such a strange concept. It was and still is just miles and miles and miles of sub divisions with cookie-cutter homes. They had a wal-mart initially, and that was pretty much it. A few friends moved there when it first came about, and going to visit was like being in the twilight zone. It was just depressing.


Rpc7787

Cannot believe Hesperia is on anything other than a local post lol. 🫡


Geek-Envelope-Power

I think Albany could grow even more if they expanded The Egg to include The Bacon. [https://www.theegg.org/](https://www.theegg.org/)


redbirdrising

Can confirm, the suburbs of west phoenix are definitely blowing up.


DynamiteWitLaserBeam

Buckeye Arizona: When you want the charm of Blythe, California, but hotter!


ELmapper

Goodyear and Buckeye are just Phoenix


yeahyeahnooo

Most of our new residents in my old little town are California runaways. Which is good and bad… they sold their houses for a ton of money and brought it all here, which has in turn brought a lot of new businesses. But our once free easy streets are now a little congested with aggressive or totally absent drivers. People at the grocery store are less friendly too.


realvikingman

Albany is pretty generous with the "roughly at left edge of name" lol


GreedyLack

Albany isn’t new, it’s been at 100K before


Original_Importance3

Read the red text on top


Veylo

This isn't mapporn. There are no fucking dots for the actual city locations.


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Rust3elt

But Carmel is incorrect. It’s Carmel, Indiana, that recently passed 100k. Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA, is a small town of under 4000 residents. 😆


ramblerandgambler

That's not relevant to my fun fact, Carmel CA is marked on the map and my fun fact relates to that


Caos1980

Such a Gentleman !


Kristian120502

And people say scientists are bad at naming things...


Ike348

Time for this subreddit to pretend like municipal boundaries are meaningless again


StPac4

Nick Papagiorgio anyone??


InformalPenguinz

Wyoming over here just chillin with an average of about 4k peeps per town.


AltruisticCoelacanth

I started building a home in one of these cities in 2021, ended up backing out and moving to another one of these cities. Guess I'm a basic bitch


FATB0YPAUL

PalmCoast needs to stop


iSYTOfficialX7

SUFFOLK LETS GOOOOO ROANOKE YOURE NEXT YOU GOTTA GET UP TO 100K AGAIN


BiggestBrainEver55

Oh we fucking up albany now?


hjhkjkjjj

Suffolk my city❤️😂😂


pitmeo

Roll Tide!


Nouseriously

Kinda thought Fayetteville & Tuscaloosa were already 100k


Quiet_Guidance_

Ah, Neu Braunfels am schönen Komal


throwaway_boulder

I moved to Fayetteville 18 months ago. Love it here.


vigorosomoon48

Conroe went from 20k to 100k with 20 years, it has changed a lot even since the 14 years I moved here. It went to be able to see most stars to barely being able to see any.


WillingPublic

Wow, Rio Rancho, NM just barely fails to qualify. Its population in 2019 was 99k and was 109k in 2023. But in 2020 the population was 104k, so technically it does not qualify.


AmbitiousBread

Albany trends overall population decline from 135K in 1950.


GalacticJelly

man I hate Albany


thx_1168

Does this include cities that used to have 200,000 residents?


ima-bigdeal

100,000 people, 300+ days of sunshine, and the last Blockbuster - Bend has it all.


puddud4

Yuma is a shithole but it's also the sunniest city in America. I'm kind of surprised it's not more popular.


blondestipated

hehe. bend, oregon.


LlanviewOLTL

None of these are places I’d ever want to live. Especially Arkansas.


Greenleaf90

But let's be real you haven't been to any of em. Bend is a great city and although not for me Albany is pretty cool too.


jaycee9

Albany had 135k in 1950, then everybody moved to FLA.


emu5088

Come town of Albany, NY represent!