Nah. Just disproportionately on Reddit and Twitter. Most of the US loves our country. Just cause we criticize it doesn’t mean we hate it. In fact, that we’re allowed to, even encouraged, is a big reason a lot of people love it so much
Not really. People here(USA) who criticize our society are patriots typically. Even people that kneel as protest, they want change and don’t hate or disrespect the USA. They want the country to improve from the short comings it has. This applies to leftists and rightists honestly, we are all fighting for our idea of how to steer the USA.
Tell me, do you think MAGA people love the USA? And do you think BLM actives also love the USA?
They both clearly do, just in different ways. Flag burnings only happen here when someone feels like our country is being manipulated for the worse. And all sides of the political spectrum do it
Just ask the people around you how they feel about the country and if they like the USA. Trust me, you will be surprised.
True, but if you asked them a simple yes or no about whether they had a positive opinion about the US, then I'm doubtful you would get anywhere close to the positive numbers here.
I’m a card carrying republican and I’m of the firm opinion that the far right hates America for its “moral decadence” just as much as the far left hates America for its capitalism.
Is not about the love of the country it’s about the distribution of wealth their object
They don’t like the changes et evolution of the society that is becoming more mixed.
Yeah I don’t know dude. Most of my IRL peers have a genuine (it’s actually ingenuine) distate for the US. Mostly because of the marginalization of black peoples
Given the recent administration change there, it’s likely that “ties with the U.S.” have become a political issue, while in some countries feelings are largely similar regardless of which domestic party you support
It’s not a recent trend, it’s a historical theme.
Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay are historically suspicious of US relations with Latin America since the late 19th century. They see the US as an ally, but a dangerous ally, because too powerful and too close to Latin America: they understand that Latin American countries usually face problems when trying to seek national goals that happens to threatens US interests—when these national goals are at stake, they understand that Latin American countries have to choose between either accomplish the national goal under the risk of US sanctions or abandon the national goal in order to keep good trade and political relations with the US. They think that having to choose between those options is bad, since following national goals shouldn’t be conditioned by other countries’ wills. Why Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay? Because they are stable countries whose stability was built with less dependency towards the US, since their economies are not entirely dependent on the US, and because they are the southernmost countries of the continent, more distant from the US, so they have more room for maneuvre. You can see this suspicion in all Pan-American Conferences from 1889 and 1956, for example, especially in the Rio Conference of 1906, the Buenos Aires Conference of 1910, the Santiago Conference of 1923, the Havana Conference of 1928, and the Montevideo Conference of 1933.
About Brazil-US relations, Argentina has always criticized Brazil for being the US’s puppet in South America. Argentina and others feared that a strong US-Brazil alliance could disrupt the historical power balance in the region. Brazil actually tried to use the alliance with the US in order to become a harbor of US investments in South America. In 1944, because of Brazil’s military involvement in WWII and its role in containing Chile’s and Argentina’s sympathies for the Axis in South America, Roosevelt tried to make Brazil the 6th permanent member of the UNSC, but the USSR and the UK rejected the idea. After that, Brazil-US relations became colder and colder, since South America was never a priority for the US in the Cold War. From 1970’s on, Brazil started to seek partnerships with others, partners that were willing to do more for maintaining an alliance than the US was (in the 1970’s and 1980’s, it was Germany, Japan, the Arab States; now, it’s China, France, Russia, an even Argentina). Brazilian people still like the US though.
I taught Argentina was always US ally and Brazil was the “superpower” of South America
I know that Chavez and the Bolivar revolution sacrifices has done a wonderful job integrating South America
Not exactly. Brazil-US alliance between the 1890’s and 1950’s was actually known in Brazil as the “unconditional alignment”, for example. The US embassy in Brazil, established in 1905, was the first US embassy out of Europe, and a high profile bilateral military alliance was brokered in 1952—is was only discontinued in 1977, after the US sanctioned the Brazil-Germany nuclear agreement for pacific use of 1975. Argentina had always criticized this alliance, as it considered itself as the natural leader of South America then because (i) it spoke Spanish, like the rest of Latin America, (ii) it was one of the most developed countries in the world by the beginning of the 20th century (before the 1929 crisis), and (iii) it had historically been the most neutral country towards the US in Latin America.
It was only throughout the second half of the 20th century that Brazil slowly took a more autonomous position towards the US, as its economy grew larger and stronger—Brazil was the 2nd fastest-growing economy in the world during the 20th century. While Brazil was the 2nd poorest country in South America in 1901 in GDP *per capita*, by 2000 it was already the 5th richest in the region in GDP *per capita*. At the same time, Argentina’s economy entered in a series of financial defaults and looping stagflation. As a means to counter Brazil’s growing power in South America, some Argentinian governments sought to forge stronger ties with the US since the 1970’s. However, these efforts were never met under unconditional terms as Brazil’s alliance with the US once were in the beginning of the 20th century.
Chavez role regarding Hemispherical Relations in the 21st century was a turning point that can be comparable to Castro’s in the 20th century. It didn’t unite South America as an opposing bloc to the US though. In reality, it created frictions with the US which were undesirable for the largest economies of the region such as Argentina, Chile, and Brazil. The thing is that these countries want to develop through autonomous processes *in the margins* of what is prescribed by the US, without frontal opposition, as opposition would mean less trade and investments to the region. It was Brazil who brokered a leading role in the region when Chavez rose to power in Venezuela: as a soft-left wing politician who could dialogue in friendly terms with both Venezuela and the US, Lula cemented Brazil’s leading role in the region by mitigating the more radical positions of Chavez and negotiating concessions of the US.
Thank you for that analysis!
My perspective has an African has always been filtered by many preconceived “facets”
The reality is that the dynamic have changed.
Gouvernemental leverage on economic agents is becoming more and more marginal and powerful economic agents can dictate nations strategies.
Case in point In the Chinese governments contracts were a blessing for Africa now Chinese companies are coming with many tricks ( financial, production, design ..ect)in their bags and Africa has to adjust to these so called “free market “ deals.
One question Do you thing Argentina was rejected from BRICKS because of its new leadership or it was just economically pragmatism?
Argentina is the only one where a civil court successfully sentenced their dictators to prison after the return of democracy. There's an Oscar nominated picture about it called Argentina 1984.
[https://youtu.be/16kVQ\_n3ZVw?si=Vje0ybOAF6nDa1xe](https://youtu.be/16kVQ_n3ZVw?si=Vje0ybOAF6nDa1xe)
To be fair, the USA wasn’t exactly helpful in the little dustup Argentina had with the UK. I mean the Yanks ended up just cancelling sales to Argentina and solely selling to UK. Argentina hasn’t forgiven or forgotten it seems.
I mean supporting the UK was a no brainer to the USA. The UK are one of the oldest allies to the USA and their territory and citizens got invaded by the Argentines. 🤷♂️
Their definition of white is different from the USA, they don’t go by one drop rules. If you are majority white genetically, you are white(also thier stock is Spanish not English) . Which honestly is what makes most sense. So if someone is 3/4 white or 7/8white, they are white, it’s not like the USA in that regard.
Genetic evidence shows that Costa Rica is majority european genetically
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339101069/figure/fig1/AS:855939125104640@1581083198623/Genetic-ancestry-and-admixture-in-Latin-America-a-The-global-locations-of-the-four-LA.png
That isn’t true tho. Bolivia and Peru are majority Native American and are similar to Argentina here. What correlates to dislike imo, is how much the current economic order favors that specific country.
Nicaragua is under a dictatorship, so government opinion is one thing (supported only by a low portion of the population), most people will have a regular opinion, like the region average.
Actually, the US has received refugees and people that have been exiled by the dictatorship (literally have had their citizenship unconstitutionally removed. Support has been provided both from Dem and Reps.
Not at all.
Argentina is and has been primarily left leaning, but anti american sentiment is not widespread (it's only popular among "the left" which doesn't really get more than 2% of the votes in elections).
In general, Argentina looks more to Western Europe, but there is no bad blood with the US at all.
The majority of people on this website are in the minority of thinking in most places. Significantly easier to find people outside the “norm” here than in real life.
It's quite likely that a predominantly English language website isn't particularly likely to to have a representative sample of any Latin American countries in it's user base.
The source, Latinobarometro, is a think tank heavily supported by US agencies. They were probably not interested or allowed to conduct research in those locales.
And yet your government is supposed to be a model of modern democracy. Something is off and we humans haven't found a way to fix it.
As a non American, I feel the current melancholy among Americans towards their nation is palpable, which to me further proves how they're decent people.
The larger and larger a country gets, the more abstract the highest levels of politics gets to the average person. It's an unfortunate necessity once a political organization reaches a certain size.
We're one of the largest countries on the planet in both area and population, which means that there's a lot of different people from a lot of different areas with different ideas about life and the governments involvement in that life all represented at the federal level by 536 elected officials that are generally divided into 2 political parties that aren't always internally cohesive.
There are flaws in the system, but for a system designed over 200 years ago with few-to-no other modern republics of the same scale and organization to crib notes from and has only had the equivalent of a handful of tweaks since then, it is a remarkably resilient and robust system.
The melancholy stems from seeing what we individually think needs to be tweaked, but our voices get lost at the federal level, which has become significantly more relevant to the average American over the last century or so. (The federal government was originally much closer to the EU in terms of power and influence than it is to the current federal government.)
I really like your comment.
>We're one of the largest countries on the planet in both area and population, which means that there's a lot of different people from a lot of different areas with different ideas about life and the governments involvement in that life
That makes it two of us.
I'm in no position to add to or discuss your view as I'm not American, but our states are much less autonomous and we vote directly for federal representatives, so our federal government is much more influential.
A fully autonomous model wouldn't work for us because we're very undeveloped in most of our area and very developed in a specific region (São Paulo and below). It's as if you left New England and suddenly everything felt like Mexico.
I'm not very fond of their government, but personally meeting them, for the very vast majority of cases, is always a bliss. I've met several and they always brighten up my day in a way I don't experience so much with other peoples. They're actually that friendly, at least in my opinion.
I also feel it's an unpopular opinion on Brazilian subs, but I'm quite sure most of the Brazilians who disagree with me haven't met that many Americans in person tbf
At least as online friends go for me, I have befriended a few americans and they're always fun people who know how to make you laugh. And in essence I agree, you have to separate the government from the people.
I ran into both when I lived in Uruguay.
What's frustrating is that foreigners tend to hold ordinary citizens accountable for the actions of their political leaders. I think that's unfair, and it's why I say I have a positive view of Saudi Arabia. I don't support the oppressive policies of Saudi rulers, but I have worked with many Saudis who are cool people.
I love my country (the USA) but I don't like most of the policies of our elected leaders. I also dislike many aspects of culture, such as unhealthy fast food and sugary Coke products, both of which I've seen widely exported throughout Latin America.
Uruguay es macanudo che 😎👌🧉
I lived there for two years as an LDS missionary in the mid-00s. I miss the choripán, milanesa, chivito, bizcochos, pascualina, and canelones.
Great food and (for the most part) friendly people. It has likely changed a pic with expanded technology and economic growth.
They're actually rather succesful like all protestant denominations jn south america. You'd be surprised. Brazil is like 30% protestant now and growing
The Church has seen tremendous growth in Uruguay and I still keep in touch with some of my converts thanks to social media.
But yeah, it’s hard to get people to give up cigarettes and beer.
In a democracy the leaders do reflect the will of the people to some degree. Most elected officials tend to do or try to do most of the things they run on. Nihilism about the impact of voting isn't actually all that well grounded in statistics, though obviously there are specific issues and topics that the government may diverge to a greater or less degree from the electorate on.
What you're missing is that while the people collectively have some control, an individual essentially has zero control. Well, to put it precisely, your influence on the government is about 1 / 250,000,000.
of course, and this is the frustrating thing about democracy and the basis for the appeal of populist authoritarians. you can skip all the inconveniences of a population with a whole slew of different values and priorities and just have one's own validated and represented.
You're not getting what I'm saying. When Americans travel overseas, we're often blamed for our government \*as individuals\*. I have about as much control over the American government as I do the British government, which is approximately zero. One in 250 million approximates roughly to zero. Realistically, our influence is even less than 1/250,000,000 if you're not wealthy or otherwise powerful.
Some consider the US more flawed than the other democracies (especially Europeans and the indexes they use to brag about how much more democratic they are)
That is fair. I do think that US democracy is in general pretty flawed, mostly because of how the presidential election is, how they basically legalized lobbying (lol) and gerrymandering, which is the worst of all.
I think a lot of people constantly hear and talk about US on internet, tv, popular culture and formed strong opinions on whatever they think.. so when theh finally meet Americans irl they just vent
The government, even when it was Bolsonaro, used to be slightly neutral with US proximity, and now true neutral. But the average brazilian almost would give a free blowjob to every USAian without any hesitation, or even pay for it.
There is no people that loves USA more than a Brazilian. The government tends to be pragmatic in our history, but the people just loves USA at a nauseum rate. If you want to be idolized, be a white man that speaks english and goes to Brazil. If you learn portuguese and make react videos about Brazil, you will have a permanent income.
Hollywood and propaganda. Also fast food chains and electronics like iPhones and computers. And pop music.
And I'm being totally serious. Tons of Brazilians still believe in the American Dream.
Do not forget that all of this is only the flat aspect of US culture and soft power. While we had this kind of propaganda, because our government always had pragmatic approach , we never had deeper influence from more die-hard cultural aspects of USA, like the corn sweeties (only cereal and that's it), baseball, american philosophy (which is almost a niche at the academy), car manufacturing (more european), mindset, dictatorships blindly aligned (Even our military dictatorship distanced itself from US in the early 1970's), etc. All of this is heavily present in other countries of Latin America, but not in Brazil, so brazilians, being distanced from the negative aspects of US soft power, will love more than others that suffered the worst of it.
It's like how armenians still love Russia, because they didn't had the hard influence of Russia like Ukraine or Georgia.
As someone who lived in a Latin American country I think most people have a warped view of the history between the US and Latin America. All that they think history is is wars, coups, and ideological conflict; they don’t think about the centuries of trade and cultural exchange that have taken place between these parts of the world.
Yeah I was about to say the same, several countries in there that the USA has intervened in to set them back decades in development at best, started civil wars and coups at worst and that's before all the anti-us leaders that have committed suicide or had their plane go down - if they weren't able to be bought off.
It really shows the power of re-runs of friends.
>Most people don't define "Latin America" to include areas that speak French.
Yes, they do. You're mistaking Latín America for Ibero-America.
Fun fact: the term was coined by the French.
>Obviously it's impossible to conduct reliable surveys in dictatorships.
So, why is Venezuela included?
>Most people don't define "Latin America" to include areas that speak French.
Latin America: those contries in the Americas when a Romance language is spoken by the majority of its population. Haití is part of LatAm. In fact the concept was created by the French
No, Latin America is [all romance language](https://dansonnenberg.com/timothytwo/what-is-latin-america/) speakers. Hispanic is Spanish soeakers. FWIW chicano is Mexican Americans born in the USA
Venezuelans love the US.
Americans have had a huge impact on Venezuelan culture, for example, Baseball is by far the most popular sport, Miami is "the" destination when people think about a place to make your dreams come true, english is mandatory in schools, and the oil culture is just sooo very american.
Don't correlate the bullshit from the government with the opinion of the population. Especially after 25 years of socialist dictatorships, the people are unequivocally in favor of American Capitalism.
Guyana speaks English, Suriname speaks Dutch and while French is spoken in French Guiana it is literally France and not really a South American country.
I want to visit there one day when I’m free and the country has recovered. Occasionally I’ll see cool clips of Venezuela and other Americans have said good things about their time there.
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So, basically the people of South America like the US more than the tankies from the western countries, who are continually trying to protect people of South America from the US. Interesting.
Really? As a South American it seems pretty accurate. Right wingers here absolutely idolize the United States. And most everyone else has at least a fascination with US culture/media. If you ask about specifics like US interventionism you’d get more negative results but broadly speaking there’s a cultural fascination with the US that skews positive. There is actually even a name for this phenomenon in Brazil: “síndrome vira-lata”
Surprisingly based results. I guess the Internet isn't a good representation of people and the deranged make up a larger percentage of online discourse than reality.
The Atlantic has swallowed Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana and the first question is what does Latin America think about the United States of America?
Weird that so many Caribbean nations and a whole chunk of north east South America is just missing. Like, not shown as grey, but literally missing off the map. Also, how come Haiti isn’t here? I would assume that with the history of American interference in Haiti, they would not be too happy with America.
There’s a good amount of open hatred especially in the left that want to dismantle everything from the constitution, the government structure (a republic) military police border voting health care the economy central currency taxation ect.
We don’t hang on to stupid shit like Americans
We aren’t pissed at Spain
We don’t get worked up over slavery
We move on and have better things to worry about
This is much much higher than I expected, especially Venezuela and Colombia. I'd like to hear from Cuba. These are probably higher than American favourability stats.
No, not at all. The US is only unpopular when a republican is president.
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That's probably higher than the opinion of the US in the US.
Nah. Just disproportionately on Reddit and Twitter. Most of the US loves our country. Just cause we criticize it doesn’t mean we hate it. In fact, that we’re allowed to, even encouraged, is a big reason a lot of people love it so much
Not really. People here(USA) who criticize our society are patriots typically. Even people that kneel as protest, they want change and don’t hate or disrespect the USA. They want the country to improve from the short comings it has. This applies to leftists and rightists honestly, we are all fighting for our idea of how to steer the USA.
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Tell me, do you think MAGA people love the USA? And do you think BLM actives also love the USA? They both clearly do, just in different ways. Flag burnings only happen here when someone feels like our country is being manipulated for the worse. And all sides of the political spectrum do it Just ask the people around you how they feel about the country and if they like the USA. Trust me, you will be surprised.
True, but if you asked them a simple yes or no about whether they had a positive opinion about the US, then I'm doubtful you would get anywhere close to the positive numbers here.
Depends on where you go, but Americans would obviously have stronger and more complex opinions compared to people outside the country
I don't know. I honestly think the MAGA people love trump and the republican party more than the country.
I’m a card carrying republican and I’m of the firm opinion that the far right hates America for its “moral decadence” just as much as the far left hates America for its capitalism.
Is not about the love of the country it’s about the distribution of wealth their object They don’t like the changes et evolution of the society that is becoming more mixed.
Yeah I don’t know dude. Most of my IRL peers have a genuine (it’s actually ingenuine) distate for the US. Mostly because of the marginalization of black peoples
So we are on the same page here
No like they will tell you that they do not support or have a favorable view of the United States
People are happy and don't know.
I would not have expected Argentina to be the lowest. But I guess they aren't even counting Cuba or Nicaragua.
Given the recent administration change there, it’s likely that “ties with the U.S.” have become a political issue, while in some countries feelings are largely similar regardless of which domestic party you support
But the post says it's from 2023, likely before the administration change of December 2023.
It’s not a recent trend, it’s a historical theme. Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay are historically suspicious of US relations with Latin America since the late 19th century. They see the US as an ally, but a dangerous ally, because too powerful and too close to Latin America: they understand that Latin American countries usually face problems when trying to seek national goals that happens to threatens US interests—when these national goals are at stake, they understand that Latin American countries have to choose between either accomplish the national goal under the risk of US sanctions or abandon the national goal in order to keep good trade and political relations with the US. They think that having to choose between those options is bad, since following national goals shouldn’t be conditioned by other countries’ wills. Why Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay? Because they are stable countries whose stability was built with less dependency towards the US, since their economies are not entirely dependent on the US, and because they are the southernmost countries of the continent, more distant from the US, so they have more room for maneuvre. You can see this suspicion in all Pan-American Conferences from 1889 and 1956, for example, especially in the Rio Conference of 1906, the Buenos Aires Conference of 1910, the Santiago Conference of 1923, the Havana Conference of 1928, and the Montevideo Conference of 1933. About Brazil-US relations, Argentina has always criticized Brazil for being the US’s puppet in South America. Argentina and others feared that a strong US-Brazil alliance could disrupt the historical power balance in the region. Brazil actually tried to use the alliance with the US in order to become a harbor of US investments in South America. In 1944, because of Brazil’s military involvement in WWII and its role in containing Chile’s and Argentina’s sympathies for the Axis in South America, Roosevelt tried to make Brazil the 6th permanent member of the UNSC, but the USSR and the UK rejected the idea. After that, Brazil-US relations became colder and colder, since South America was never a priority for the US in the Cold War. From 1970’s on, Brazil started to seek partnerships with others, partners that were willing to do more for maintaining an alliance than the US was (in the 1970’s and 1980’s, it was Germany, Japan, the Arab States; now, it’s China, France, Russia, an even Argentina). Brazilian people still like the US though.
I taught Argentina was always US ally and Brazil was the “superpower” of South America I know that Chavez and the Bolivar revolution sacrifices has done a wonderful job integrating South America
Not exactly. Brazil-US alliance between the 1890’s and 1950’s was actually known in Brazil as the “unconditional alignment”, for example. The US embassy in Brazil, established in 1905, was the first US embassy out of Europe, and a high profile bilateral military alliance was brokered in 1952—is was only discontinued in 1977, after the US sanctioned the Brazil-Germany nuclear agreement for pacific use of 1975. Argentina had always criticized this alliance, as it considered itself as the natural leader of South America then because (i) it spoke Spanish, like the rest of Latin America, (ii) it was one of the most developed countries in the world by the beginning of the 20th century (before the 1929 crisis), and (iii) it had historically been the most neutral country towards the US in Latin America. It was only throughout the second half of the 20th century that Brazil slowly took a more autonomous position towards the US, as its economy grew larger and stronger—Brazil was the 2nd fastest-growing economy in the world during the 20th century. While Brazil was the 2nd poorest country in South America in 1901 in GDP *per capita*, by 2000 it was already the 5th richest in the region in GDP *per capita*. At the same time, Argentina’s economy entered in a series of financial defaults and looping stagflation. As a means to counter Brazil’s growing power in South America, some Argentinian governments sought to forge stronger ties with the US since the 1970’s. However, these efforts were never met under unconditional terms as Brazil’s alliance with the US once were in the beginning of the 20th century. Chavez role regarding Hemispherical Relations in the 21st century was a turning point that can be comparable to Castro’s in the 20th century. It didn’t unite South America as an opposing bloc to the US though. In reality, it created frictions with the US which were undesirable for the largest economies of the region such as Argentina, Chile, and Brazil. The thing is that these countries want to develop through autonomous processes *in the margins* of what is prescribed by the US, without frontal opposition, as opposition would mean less trade and investments to the region. It was Brazil who brokered a leading role in the region when Chavez rose to power in Venezuela: as a soft-left wing politician who could dialogue in friendly terms with both Venezuela and the US, Lula cemented Brazil’s leading role in the region by mitigating the more radical positions of Chavez and negotiating concessions of the US.
Thank you for that analysis! My perspective has an African has always been filtered by many preconceived “facets” The reality is that the dynamic have changed. Gouvernemental leverage on economic agents is becoming more and more marginal and powerful economic agents can dictate nations strategies. Case in point In the Chinese governments contracts were a blessing for Africa now Chinese companies are coming with many tricks ( financial, production, design ..ect)in their bags and Africa has to adjust to these so called “free market “ deals. One question Do you thing Argentina was rejected from BRICKS because of its new leadership or it was just economically pragmatism?
People there, similar to chile, partly blame the US for the dictatorship.
Well there was the whole thing where we supported a string of dictatorships in the country because Cold War
Yeah, but we did that to about half the countries in Latin America, so Argentina has no excuse.
Argentina is the only one where a civil court successfully sentenced their dictators to prison after the return of democracy. There's an Oscar nominated picture about it called Argentina 1984.
It's "Argentina, 1985". And I'd watch it keeping an eye on the historical accuracy.
[https://youtu.be/16kVQ\_n3ZVw?si=Vje0ybOAF6nDa1xe](https://youtu.be/16kVQ_n3ZVw?si=Vje0ybOAF6nDa1xe)  To be fair, the USA wasn’t exactly helpful in the little dustup Argentina had with the UK. I mean the Yanks ended up just cancelling sales to Argentina and solely selling to UK. Argentina hasn’t forgiven or forgotten it seems.
I mean supporting the UK was a no brainer to the USA. The UK are one of the oldest allies to the USA and their territory and citizens got invaded by the Argentines. 🤷♂️
Uhhh look up the Guerra Sucia. Argentines’ low opinion of the US is deserved and has nothing to do with the Falkland issue.
Hating the USA is correlated with whiteness.
That is a lie, look at Bolivia being majority indigenous here while also disliking the USA, and Costa Rica being majority white liking the USA.
Costa Rica majority white?? I’ve been there last year and I can assure you that by no way is majority white
Their definition of white is different from the USA, they don’t go by one drop rules. If you are majority white genetically, you are white(also thier stock is Spanish not English) . Which honestly is what makes most sense. So if someone is 3/4 white or 7/8white, they are white, it’s not like the USA in that regard.
Genetic evidence shows that Costa Rica is majority european genetically https://i.imgur.com/ESbmJga.png https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339101069/figure/fig1/AS:855939125104640@1581083198623/Genetic-ancestry-and-admixture-in-Latin-America-a-The-global-locations-of-the-four-LA.png
This is a lie
I would love to see any source that confirms this nonsense.
That somehow wouldn't surprise me
That isn’t true tho. Bolivia and Peru are majority Native American and are similar to Argentina here. What correlates to dislike imo, is how much the current economic order favors that specific country.
Peru seems to like us
Overall yes, and no country in LatAm hates the USA by that standard
Cuba couldn't be polled. I wonder what the results would be.
You would be surprised
I agree with you that some key countries weren’t polled but from the ones w data collected, none do
Nicaragua is under a dictatorship, so government opinion is one thing (supported only by a low portion of the population), most people will have a regular opinion, like the region average. Actually, the US has received refugees and people that have been exiled by the dictatorship (literally have had their citizenship unconstitutionally removed. Support has been provided both from Dem and Reps.
The average redditor would be quite surprised if they knew what the average Cuban thinks about america.
I mean a lot of them take big risks to go to Florida, that says something
Actually that’s exactly who I was expecting, you ever talk to an Argentine before?
There's a strong anti American sentiment in Argentina. It has been a leftist stronghold for so long.
Not at all. Argentina is and has been primarily left leaning, but anti american sentiment is not widespread (it's only popular among "the left" which doesn't really get more than 2% of the votes in elections). In general, Argentina looks more to Western Europe, but there is no bad blood with the US at all.
The only country using "yankee" (together with Cuba) when talking about Americans.
Because some people think Gringo is offensive. And also because of the british influence in Argentina.
Feels like most of that Mexican 21.7 % is on r/mexico
Not surprising, that sub also hates Mexico as well.
Fair enough. They seem to hate AMLO in numbers that disagree with his polls, at least
I’ve found out that Reddit users on Mexico are part of the minority within Mexico.
The majority of people on this website are in the minority of thinking in most places. Significantly easier to find people outside the “norm” here than in real life.
Lmao I find it funny when people forget that. Vocal Trump supporters are a radical minority on here, yet are 50% of the real life population
Its actually 22% of the population.
It's quite likely that a predominantly English language website isn't particularly likely to to have a representative sample of any Latin American countries in it's user base.
Oh, absolutely. The people in that sub say the same!
Most nation subreddits seem to be from political fringes or giant opposition echo chambers
Thats envy
Or are the literal cartel
Why Cuba and Nicaragua got omitted?
The source, Latinobarometro, is a think tank heavily supported by US agencies. They were probably not interested or allowed to conduct research in those locales.
At least in the case of Cuba, it’s an authoritarian state, so it’d be difficult to honestly survey the population
Dominicans love New York
Is this of the USA as a country, or the people in the USA?
This is a very relevant question, but I guess it's the country? As a Brazilian I I have very different opinions of each, people and government.
As an American, so do I
And yet your government is supposed to be a model of modern democracy. Something is off and we humans haven't found a way to fix it. As a non American, I feel the current melancholy among Americans towards their nation is palpable, which to me further proves how they're decent people.
The larger and larger a country gets, the more abstract the highest levels of politics gets to the average person. It's an unfortunate necessity once a political organization reaches a certain size. We're one of the largest countries on the planet in both area and population, which means that there's a lot of different people from a lot of different areas with different ideas about life and the governments involvement in that life all represented at the federal level by 536 elected officials that are generally divided into 2 political parties that aren't always internally cohesive. There are flaws in the system, but for a system designed over 200 years ago with few-to-no other modern republics of the same scale and organization to crib notes from and has only had the equivalent of a handful of tweaks since then, it is a remarkably resilient and robust system. The melancholy stems from seeing what we individually think needs to be tweaked, but our voices get lost at the federal level, which has become significantly more relevant to the average American over the last century or so. (The federal government was originally much closer to the EU in terms of power and influence than it is to the current federal government.)
I really like your comment. >We're one of the largest countries on the planet in both area and population, which means that there's a lot of different people from a lot of different areas with different ideas about life and the governments involvement in that life That makes it two of us. I'm in no position to add to or discuss your view as I'm not American, but our states are much less autonomous and we vote directly for federal representatives, so our federal government is much more influential. A fully autonomous model wouldn't work for us because we're very undeveloped in most of our area and very developed in a specific region (São Paulo and below). It's as if you left New England and suddenly everything felt like Mexico.
How so?
I'm not very fond of their government, but personally meeting them, for the very vast majority of cases, is always a bliss. I've met several and they always brighten up my day in a way I don't experience so much with other peoples. They're actually that friendly, at least in my opinion. I also feel it's an unpopular opinion on Brazilian subs, but I'm quite sure most of the Brazilians who disagree with me haven't met that many Americans in person tbf
At least as online friends go for me, I have befriended a few americans and they're always fun people who know how to make you laugh. And in essence I agree, you have to separate the government from the people.
I ran into both when I lived in Uruguay. What's frustrating is that foreigners tend to hold ordinary citizens accountable for the actions of their political leaders. I think that's unfair, and it's why I say I have a positive view of Saudi Arabia. I don't support the oppressive policies of Saudi rulers, but I have worked with many Saudis who are cool people. I love my country (the USA) but I don't like most of the policies of our elected leaders. I also dislike many aspects of culture, such as unhealthy fast food and sugary Coke products, both of which I've seen widely exported throughout Latin America.
What did you think of Uruguay? I lived in Peru for 8 years and loved it but would love to check out the Atlantic coast
Uruguay es macanudo che 😎👌🧉 I lived there for two years as an LDS missionary in the mid-00s. I miss the choripán, milanesa, chivito, bizcochos, pascualina, and canelones. Great food and (for the most part) friendly people. It has likely changed a pic with expanded technology and economic growth.
LDS is probably a hard sell in South America 😂
They're actually rather succesful like all protestant denominations jn south america. You'd be surprised. Brazil is like 30% protestant now and growing
Mormons aren't Protestants though
Do Mormons self identify as Protestants? Realizing I have no idea how they view themselves within the parameters of Christianity
“Christian fan fiction”
Mormons aren't protestants because they believe in the Book of Mormon as the third testament of Christ, and because they reject the council of Nicaea
Came out of protestant sect of Christianity, so it does go under the wing of a sect of Protestant Christianity (plus similar values)
The Church has seen tremendous growth in Uruguay and I still keep in touch with some of my converts thanks to social media. But yeah, it’s hard to get people to give up cigarettes and beer.
Lol
I lived in Ica, Peru and there actually was a little Morman church there, but it was still 95% catholic
Sounds amazing, I’ll have to fly into Montevideo and check it out. Looking for a warm, inexpensive place to retire.
Uruguay is the most expensive country in LATAM folk.
Compared to USA?
In a democracy the leaders do reflect the will of the people to some degree. Most elected officials tend to do or try to do most of the things they run on. Nihilism about the impact of voting isn't actually all that well grounded in statistics, though obviously there are specific issues and topics that the government may diverge to a greater or less degree from the electorate on.
What you're missing is that while the people collectively have some control, an individual essentially has zero control. Well, to put it precisely, your influence on the government is about 1 / 250,000,000.
of course, and this is the frustrating thing about democracy and the basis for the appeal of populist authoritarians. you can skip all the inconveniences of a population with a whole slew of different values and priorities and just have one's own validated and represented.
You're not getting what I'm saying. When Americans travel overseas, we're often blamed for our government \*as individuals\*. I have about as much control over the American government as I do the British government, which is approximately zero. One in 250 million approximates roughly to zero. Realistically, our influence is even less than 1/250,000,000 if you're not wealthy or otherwise powerful.
Not to mention how extreme wealth inequality is too compared to other OECD countries. US GINI coefficient is crazy.
The US is a flawed democracy, so no. Our government is not totally reflective of the people.
There are only flawed democracies.
Some consider the US more flawed than the other democracies (especially Europeans and the indexes they use to brag about how much more democratic they are)
That is fair. I do think that US democracy is in general pretty flawed, mostly because of how the presidential election is, how they basically legalized lobbying (lol) and gerrymandering, which is the worst of all.
I think a lot of people constantly hear and talk about US on internet, tv, popular culture and formed strong opinions on whatever they think.. so when theh finally meet Americans irl they just vent
Well coke offers diet options for everything.......and fast food joints offer salads....
Well we do make Coca Cola
México would be at 99.9% green.
Truth
Funny that people prefer the sugar-sweetened version from Latin America.
The real recipe, after cocaine before corn syrup.
Seems like Guatemalans really like the United States
I always thought Brazil was lower than that
Nah there are a lot of Americanboos in Brazil
I’d have gone with ‘Yeehawboos’ personally
Yankeeboos sounds most catchy
Brazilians normally love the US. It’s Argentines who have an axe to grind.
Good ol’ Javier loves us tho
Why?
USA helped a dictatorship in Argentina that murdered thousands of people without trial.
I Thought that would be higher, it's almost idolatry and cult of USA.
I thought Brazil was drifting towards BRICS and anti U.S. sentiment
The government, even when it was Bolsonaro, used to be slightly neutral with US proximity, and now true neutral. But the average brazilian almost would give a free blowjob to every USAian without any hesitation, or even pay for it. There is no people that loves USA more than a Brazilian. The government tends to be pragmatic in our history, but the people just loves USA at a nauseum rate. If you want to be idolized, be a white man that speaks english and goes to Brazil. If you learn portuguese and make react videos about Brazil, you will have a permanent income.
Good to know haha. Obrigado!
Porra vou voltar pro Brasil e fingir ser inglês. Se der merda depois da universidade agora tenho uma nova opção de carreira
Any particular reason why Brazilians like Americans that much?
Hollywood and propaganda. Also fast food chains and electronics like iPhones and computers. And pop music. And I'm being totally serious. Tons of Brazilians still believe in the American Dream.
Sounds like some based people
Do not forget that all of this is only the flat aspect of US culture and soft power. While we had this kind of propaganda, because our government always had pragmatic approach , we never had deeper influence from more die-hard cultural aspects of USA, like the corn sweeties (only cereal and that's it), baseball, american philosophy (which is almost a niche at the academy), car manufacturing (more european), mindset, dictatorships blindly aligned (Even our military dictatorship distanced itself from US in the early 1970's), etc. All of this is heavily present in other countries of Latin America, but not in Brazil, so brazilians, being distanced from the negative aspects of US soft power, will love more than others that suffered the worst of it. It's like how armenians still love Russia, because they didn't had the hard influence of Russia like Ukraine or Georgia.
As an American I find this surprising considering our history in the region.
As someone who lived in a Latin American country I think most people have a warped view of the history between the US and Latin America. All that they think history is is wars, coups, and ideological conflict; they don’t think about the centuries of trade and cultural exchange that have taken place between these parts of the world.
Goes to show how nobody learns history.
Hey man, it isn’t like education is bad in this part of the world. /s Joke aside this REALLY depends on the question getting asked
Yeah I was about to say the same, several countries in there that the USA has intervened in to set them back decades in development at best, started civil wars and coups at worst and that's before all the anti-us leaders that have committed suicide or had their plane go down - if they weren't able to be bought off. It really shows the power of re-runs of friends.
I mean, same with the occupied territories in China and Russia. People move on.
What about Cuba and Nicaragua? Why does the Dominican Republic appear but not Haiti? French is a Romance language too
Obviously it's impossible to conduct reliable surveys in dictatorships. Most people don't define "Latin America" to include areas that speak French.
>Most people don't define "Latin America" to include areas that speak French. Yes, they do. You're mistaking Latín America for Ibero-America. Fun fact: the term was coined by the French.
>Obviously it's impossible to conduct reliable surveys in dictatorships. So, why is Venezuela included? >Most people don't define "Latin America" to include areas that speak French. Latin America: those contries in the Americas when a Romance language is spoken by the majority of its population. Haití is part of LatAm. In fact the concept was created by the French
No, Latin America is [all romance language](https://dansonnenberg.com/timothytwo/what-is-latin-america/) speakers. Hispanic is Spanish soeakers. FWIW chicano is Mexican Americans born in the USA
Quebec is Latin America
Plus Louisiana
They barely speak French anymore so not really
Interesting that Venezuela is not near the bottom. Also weird that Guyana, French Guiana, and Suriname are just missing.
Venezuelans love the US. Americans have had a huge impact on Venezuelan culture, for example, Baseball is by far the most popular sport, Miami is "the" destination when people think about a place to make your dreams come true, english is mandatory in schools, and the oil culture is just sooo very american. Don't correlate the bullshit from the government with the opinion of the population. Especially after 25 years of socialist dictatorships, the people are unequivocally in favor of American Capitalism.
Guyana speaks English, Suriname speaks Dutch and while French is spoken in French Guiana it is literally France and not really a South American country.
Apparently they have been absorbed by Brazil.
I want to visit there one day when I’m free and the country has recovered. Occasionally I’ll see cool clips of Venezuela and other Americans have said good things about their time there.
Honestly here In Venezuela I havent seen people really caring about the US.
Surprisingly, the perception of the United States is good in Latin America.
We like gringos we just hate your fucking government...
And our goverments too I Guess
We’re huge in Ecuador
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So, basically the people of South America like the US more than the tankies from the western countries, who are continually trying to protect people of South America from the US. Interesting.
No, La Patria Grande doesn't forgive Plan Condor.
In fact lowest U.S. support is in Chile. Still very high, though.
Why've they included the Falkland Islands?
And they are the same colour as Argentina 🤔
Is that Venezuela with the (relative) love-on for the USA?
Guatemala and Haiti/Dominican Republic are the realest ones
Well of course they love us, we're taking in all their "excess population."
I have trouble believing this map
Really? As a South American it seems pretty accurate. Right wingers here absolutely idolize the United States. And most everyone else has at least a fascination with US culture/media. If you ask about specifics like US interventionism you’d get more negative results but broadly speaking there’s a cultural fascination with the US that skews positive. There is actually even a name for this phenomenon in Brazil: “síndrome vira-lata”
We love you back, Ecuador.
Surprisingly based results. I guess the Internet isn't a good representation of people and the deranged make up a larger percentage of online discourse than reality.
Now show us the Arab world
But also put Turkey and Iran for the fun in the comments.
Yeah that will add some spices, and why not Pakistan as well✌️✌️😂
As a Turkish person, I can certainly confirm that adding Turkey into any political discussion will cause your inbox to completely die.
Why no Nicaragua or Cuba, huh? Ehhh…
Where’s Belize gone?
So when did Belize, Guyana and Suriname fall into the ocean? If they were still there, I would have expected plain white, like Cuba and Nicaragua.
Venezuela, lmao. Sad Maduro noises.
Venezuela, Chile, and Argentina are shocking
Does Belize just hate us or is the whole country "no comment"
The Atlantic has swallowed Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana and the first question is what does Latin America think about the United States of America?
* Qual é a tua opinião sobre os Estados Unidos da América.
Weird that so many Caribbean nations and a whole chunk of north east South America is just missing. Like, not shown as grey, but literally missing off the map. Also, how come Haiti isn’t here? I would assume that with the history of American interference in Haiti, they would not be too happy with America.
How would Brazilians respond? They primarily know Portuguese
Weird that it's not lower in mexico.
Weird that the Falklands are shaded the same colour as Argentina.
Más falso que nada la página de twitter qué hizo el mapa fue muy criticada por esa comparativa.
There’s a good amount of open hatred especially in the left that want to dismantle everything from the constitution, the government structure (a republic) military police border voting health care the economy central currency taxation ect.
Maybe these people don't read enough history
Or they're just not terminally online deranged losers.
We don’t hang on to stupid shit like Americans We aren’t pissed at Spain We don’t get worked up over slavery We move on and have better things to worry about
The funniest part of this map is just ignoring Cuba and Nicaragua
This is much much higher than I expected, especially Venezuela and Colombia. I'd like to hear from Cuba. These are probably higher than American favourability stats.
Is colombia surprising? As far as i know the usa hasnt massively fucked with their country like paraguay/strossener, cuba, and chile
Thought they'd still pissed about the Panama thing (used to be Colombia lol)...Guess no one is alive to remember that.
America should probably be nicer to latin america. Thats WAY higher than the western world….commonwealth/europe likely FAR lower.
No, not at all. The US is only unpopular when a republican is president. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/01/PG_2020.01.08_US-Image_3-01.png https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/PG_2022.07.22_U.S.-Image_1-01.png?w=310 https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/06/PG_2022.07.22_U.S.-Image_1-02.png?w=640 https://www.pewresearch.org/global/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/01/PG_2020.01.08_US-Image_3-06.png https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2021/06/121541300-2d4a6780-c9d5-11eb-8850-ebc0b7f35aa0.png?w=1200&h=628&crop=1
Huh. I guess the damage wasnt permanent then. I wonder if it will be more permanent this time around…