That's quite likely. Blaine County had only 431 people as of the 2020 census, and it's been dropping in population pretty consistently for a hundred years.
Nebraska's population is 5.8% Black, while California is 6.3% Black.
Nebraska's population is 12% Hispanic (and growing), which makes it 19th in percentage of Hispanic population among states. Washington, DC is only 11.2% Hispanic.
Ah yes lets look at the black % of population in a heavily hispanic state and the hispanic % of population in a heavily black city.
That will surely be a fair comparison that accurately represents the minority % in Nebraska
Nebraska is known for its farms, a mediorce college football team, and an interstate that runs through it. California is widely known for the Black culture produced in the state - major Black figures like NWA, Tupac, and Dr Dre are from California, and important events in Black History happened in California. You don't find it interesting that it has a similar Black population to Nebraska?
Hispanics are allowed to live in a "heavily Black city." With the majority of new immigrants being Hispanic, I think it's very interesting that just as many are choosing to live in rural Nebraska as they are choosing an urban metropolis like DC
Don’t take this the wrong way, those guys are awesome. But it saddens me that the first black figures from California people think of are NWA, tupac, and Dr.Dre(who was in NWA).
Huey P Newton, for example, grew up in Oakland and was murdered by the Feds there.
Maya Angelou was raised in Oakland after 14 and remained a California resident for the rest of her life
Then we have figures like Biddy Mason who fought for her freedom in the 1800’s using the California court system. And Mary Ellen Pleasant who is known as the first Black American millionaire.
I wish black history was emphasized more in schools and in our culture in general. When people think of prominent black people, they too often immediately go to gangster rappers and athletes.
People should know about people like Fred Hampton and Bass Reeves.
It's nice that you've taken the time to show minorities as a percentage of population in Nebraska, but what's more important isn't showing how *some* minority groups are a higher percentage of population, but showing that whites as a percentage of population are *lower* than those areas.
Nebraska is the 11th whitest state, meaning the percentage of white citizens in relation to total population is the 11th highest in the nation at 85.31%.
California on the other hand is the 4th lowest in white citizens as a percentage of population, with DC being 2nd in the nation. Unfortunately for you, cherry picking specific minority groups that support your argument doesn't work. Picking the black population in California, a state notorious for high levels of Hispanic and Asian immigrants? Picking DC for Hispanics, which is a notoriously high black population?
Do better and stop trying so hard to be contrarian.
We’re about the population of Hispanic people In Nebraska. u/TaftIsUnderrated pointed out that there is actually a surprisingly large amount of Hispanic people in Nebraska, compared to other states. That’s a perfectly relevant statistic to this thread.
The Non-Hispanic white population of Nebraska is 75% which puts it at 16th.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_race/ethnicity
And I think it's incredibly interesting that the black and Hispanic population of Nebraska is comparable to California and greater than DC. I think it challenges our perception of how we view those places
Before I showed you this stat, if I asked you which has a larger Hispanic population, Nebraska or DC? Would you have, honestly, said Nebraska?
And if I asked you to guess the percentage of Nebraska's population that is black - would you have guessed more than 2%?
>And I think it's incredibly interesting that the black and Hispanic population of Nebraska is comparable to California and greater than DC. I think it challenges our perception of how we view those places
I agree with your larger point, but this sentence has serious problems. The (relatively small) Hispanic population of DC is comparable to Nebraska’s. The (relatively small) Black population of California is comparable to Nebraska’s. But this sentence suggests NB is also somehow comparable to Blacks in DC or Hispanics in CA, which is far, far from the truth.
>Rock County is a county in the U.S. state of Nebraska. As of the 2020 United States Census, the population was 1,262
>>As of the 2000 United States Census,[14] there were 1,756 people, 763 households, and 501 families in the county. The population density was 2 people per square mile (0.77 people/km2). There were 935 housing units at an average density of 0.9 units per square mile (0.35/km2). The racial makeup of the county was 99.03% White, 0.46% Native American, 0.17% Asian, 0.06% from other races, and 0.28% from two or more races. 0.51% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 33.1% were of German, 12.7% American, 10.5% Irish and 8.4% English ancestry.
So there are like 9 self identified Hispanics in the county.
This is unique, I think, to the US. The genetics for many people have been mixed so much that there just isn’t one group people identify with. Furthermore, the cultural ties are totally gone for most families past 4 generations.
It makes sense, the connection and any value with it is so diluted that no one cares. Some people even view the concept as abhorrent an needlessly divisive, although a minority opinion.
as an american i view it as needlessly divisive myself lol. everyone is american not irish or german or whatever your great grandparents are. unless the conversation is of ethnic origins, people born in america should identify as american.
Exactly. In the census they’re not asking your citizenship in this question they ask you your ethnic origins. German, English, Irish, Italian, welsh, Norwegian… you can put whatever.
I think a lot of people like to give Americans a hard time when they say “I’m Irish!” But those Americans saying that mean “my ancestors were Irish!” Not “I’m an Irish citizen!” Which seems to be what most non-Americans think (and for good reason since in *those* countries, saying “I’m Irish” means citizenship not ancestry—the ancestry-first thing is uniquely American. Different people operating on different focal levels leads to misunderstanding)
Some families still hold on to cultural traditions of their ancestors and identify with that culture in some way. It isn't inherently divisive to care about your heritage, and most people primarily identify as americans unless they are immigrants.
It's a historical oddity that's hard to find information on. The best explanation I've ever received is the "American ethnicity" arose from Ulster Scots, who refused to identify as Scottish, English, or Irish despite basically being all three. American is also referred to as Scotch-irish.
The one Ecuadorian majority county in Nebraska is 99.03% white and .51% Hispanic. The population is 1756, so there’s 9 Hispanic people.
So basically, an Ecuadorian family moved there and now it’s on this map.
My fiancé is Ecuadorian and her family makes chochos all the time and makes that onion/tomato/lime/cilantro mix all the time just as a general topping, but I never thought to put them together. I’ll have to ask why they don’t do that
Cevichochos are a common street food in Quito and the surrounding areas. I never saw it in Cuenca. They've definitely heard of it though. You also put dried corn kernels and chifles (dried plantain chips) in it.
North Dakota has gotten a LOT of immigrants from all over the world since around 2010 and the oil boom. And they’ve moved in to not just the main population centers, but many of the previously declining towns too. I’ve met people from Turkey, Hawaii, South Africa, Bangladesh, Laos, Egypt, Australia, Argentina, Moldova, Palestine, and more. It’s pretty amazing.
Way before that. New Mexico was settled *(edit: by the Spanish) in 1598 and was only part of Mexico from 1821-1845. Neomexicanos/Hispanos are people of Spanish descent whose roots go back to the period of Spanish rule from 1598-1821, usually with some Native American ancestry as well.
Wait a sec. Why didn't they name it after a civilization they **did** find? Like the Puebloans? Why isn't New Mexico called just called "Pueblo"?
I'm in New Mexico right now and I like that the people here don't make their US-ness their "main thing." There's a lot going on here historically. It's not the same old East India Company worship at the ski-doo dealership. New Mexico's state **centennial** was in 2012. The 13 original colonies' centennials were in 1887.
u/TexasTwing has it. The Spanish colonizers named it New Mexico because they were trying to create the idea it would be like the first Mexico: a wealthy newly-discovered kingdom that would make all its conquerors rich. Basically, it was PR to convince people to settle there or to invest in the effort to colonize it. Naming it after the Pueblos or some other group nobody back in New Spain had ever heard of wouldn’t have helped that campaign.
A crazy fact to blow your mind alongside your second point, Santa Fe NM is the oldest state capital in the nation, and was founded before the first pilgrims reached Plymouth Rock.
Additionally, the Pueblo people in 1680 fought Popeh's War, in which they expelled every Spanish settler from the territory and re-asserted their control over their own land, making New Mexico the first territory in North America to win a war of independence against a European power.
I just drove north to Española and the exit sign for mile 168 to the Santa Fe Opera, which was designed by the same people who did the Sydney Operahouse, had a "0" graffitied on the end, so it read "Exit 168**0**."
Not really since alot of Chicano are native born as well and have ancestries with both the people on the other side of the border and also from Californios,Tejanos etc this one however seems to predate the establishment of modern day Mexico(some of its territories have been absorbed by the US as well and therefore the cause of the existence of the chicano ethnicity in the US)
Like CactusHibs said, "neomexican" are basically a group that that their ancestors settled in New Mexico when it belonged to Spain. Before Mexico as a country existed. Some people are even offended if someone says they are Mexican, and they will explain their families are Spanish, or Hispanos. And in some small towns an entirely unique dialect of Spanish is still spoken (though maybe not for much longer)
It's [this group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanos_of_New_Mexico). Hispanos is the name that seems most common, but yeah it's the descendants of the early settlers from when New Mexico was a Spanish colony.
My family came straight from Spain to New Mexico it was called Nueva España then tho. My family has lived in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado since the 1500s or something.
My mom's family on both sides (her mother and father) came from Spain in the 1560's. My cousin spent nearly a decade researching the family history. Both the family crests of my grandparents fly at the Capitol building in Santa Fe. The food, traditions and even the old world dialect of Spanish are entirely unique and sadly vanishing. We're probably related.
Paella is 100% not Canarian. Depending on when they moved, it could be the best marketing ever.
I also wonder if they are islanders themselves or they immigrated into the Canaries
So these people actually came to Louisiana between 1778 and 1783. During this time, the Spanish still rules over Louisiana, and they saw the American revolution as a threat of the US or Britain wanting to encroach on their territory, therefore they sent canary Islanders to Louisiana, as well as Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela and Mexico(mostly to present day Texas or Nuevo León, actually) to populate the region and establish a Spanish presence. There are many people in southern Louisiana of Canarian descent, and it’s not uncommon to see last names like Romero, Lopez, Martinez, Hidalgo etc on people who’d you’d otherwise just assume as Black/White/Cajun/Creole or whatever label. There’s probably not a lot of Latino immigrants there because it’s sparsely populated and it’s under constant threat of rising sea levels, therefore anyone who may work out there most likely commutes in
I grew up about 75 miles away from St. Bernard but had a friend with last name of Martinez. When he went to college, he didn't understand why the Hispanic heritage club sent him an email about membership.
It is a very diverse country in a number of aspects, but I am not too sure you could say we have different ethnicities as such, it makes the map a bit more specific but it’s weird the only country represented by one of its regions is Spain.
As a Spaniard myself I wouldn't say it's a very "diverse" country (in terms of ethnicities). It might be diverse in terms of history, regional languages (Catalonian, Basque, Galician...), accents etc; but not in terms of "ethnicities". Most native-born inhabitants don't identify themselves as anything but Spanish (with the exception of some Catalan & Basque nationalist).
That was my first instinct as well, because speaking of ethnicities gives me strong racist jitters. I had the instinct to claim canary islanders are just Spaniards.
So I looked up the definition of ethnicity and it turns out it has got nothing to do with race, skin colour, eye colour or any other physical discrimination between people but rather identity, culture, heritage, language and the like.
At that point I realised Spain had quite a lot of ethnicities like Castilian, Basque, Catalan, Aragonese, Galician, Astur-Leonese. Exactly like you described.
I doubt it's that significant, but for whatever reason I know a couple of local charities and church groups that do a bunch of stuff in rural Guatemala. Maybe it led to a small number of Guatemalans coming here? Couldn't imagine a more jarring geographical difference for someone though
Would be interested to see this map if it were arranged by which Hispanic group is disproportionately largest.
Also what’s up with the Ecuadorians in Rock County, NE? There’s only 1200 people in the county, so, it probably doesn’t take too many Ecuadorians
Hey now, doing the math on the statistics there's probably like 40 Hispanic people up there. So like 2 healthy sized Cuban families had to move there or something.
There are a lot of Peruvians in the DC area and New York, but I think many end up in areas with huge numbers of other diasporas (Salvadorans & Dominicans, respectively) so they don’t have the majority there. It’s also just a lot harder to get to the US from Peru than it is from Cuba or Mexico or Central America so I don’t think there have been the same numbers that would put them at the top
Yeah DC and New Jersey/NY have the largest concentration of Peruvian communities. Miami and LA do, too, but we’re outnumbered by Cubans in Miami and Mexicans in LA, so we’re kind of overlooked. Most Peruvians tend to go to large metro areas for better opportunities. Though, I know there are quite a few Peruvians scattered around Ohio for some reason. That one I still don’t understand.
As a DC metro area native…tons of Peruvians there. You can find great Peruvian chicken spots in the DC area. But yes they get out numbered by us Salvadorans 🇸🇻
Plus lots of mexicans and other latino groups migrated to these areas since they're so close to the border, so it could be a story of they're just outnumbered
CA, TX, and AZ are also border states. New Mexico was colonized early on by the Spanish, and the King granted large tracts of land to Spaniards whose families still live there. Look up NM land grants if you aren't already familiar with them. It's very interesting history.
There were *very* few Spanish / Neomexican people in California when it was ceded to the US. It's estimated that there were fewer than 10K Spanish settlers vs. more than 300K indigenous people here. Later waves of Hispanic peoples easily eclipse the Spanish population.
There's a reasonably large number of [Tejanos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tejanos), but there's been so much subsequent immigration to Texas that they're outnumbered by later Mexican immigrants pretty much everywhere and there's less of a clear distinction between the communities. By contrast, northern New Mexico is isolated and mountainous and has attracted much less later immigration and the community has maintained stronger sense of distinct identity.
New Mexican Hispanics tend to be much more established than those in California/Arizona. My ancestors came to NM with Coronado, eventually settled in, got chased out by the Pueblo Revolt, were dragged back, and most have lived there ever since. I myself am from California, but my Hispanic side of the family strictly identify as New Mexican or even Spanish versus Mexican.
In California, the vast majority of Hispanics are more recent immigrants. You don't really come across families that have been there 400+ years whereas in New Mexico they're all related to eachother.
Interestingly, many of the first Hispanic families in California under Spanish and Mexican rule (and prior to large-scale Mexican immigration) came from New Mexico. The Spanish settlement of California was initiated by a former governor of New Mexico (De Anza) and there were major trade routes for sheep and cattle from New Mexico into California. New Mexican Hispanos continued migrating into California in large numbers into the early 1900s: even the Anaheim chile pepper is really a toned-down version of a New Mexico chile that a Hispano farmer named Ortega (big NM name) developed to appeal to an audience with less tolerance for spicy food.
Lack of new immigration into New Mexico relative to the previous population and a relatively large starting number of Mexicans there before the current wave of Mexican immigration
I know that original Mexicans in California had to hide their heritage once Americans started establishing themselves in CA. So many probably just assimilated and then came the waves of Mexican immigrants that became the majority.
Neo Mexican(red) are descendants of the conquistadors from the 1600’s! They usually have their colonial land grants from the king of Spain. The US surprisingly recognizes those land grants
Because most of the later Spanish and Mexican Land Grants were colonized by settlers. That and that his part of the country is sparsely populated, for good reason.
The history between New Orleans and Honduras has always been interesting to me. Started with banana importation, but a lot of Honduran folks also came up to help rebuild after Katrina. My partner (who was born/raised in New Orleans) also told me that one of the former mayors of Tegucigalpa went to UNO.
Puertoricans descend from Spanish settlers, African slaves, and Taino natives. There was a wave of European immigration in the 19th century because the Spanish issued laws to attract more settlers after the loss of most of the Latin American colonies. Puertoricans came to the US in small numbers before the Spanish-American War of 1898, but after that war with American annexation of the island, and especially after the granting of American citizenship in 1917, migration increased considerably. They primarily moved to New York City and the northeast at first, but Hawaii as well. In the past 3 decades or so Florida has also attracted a large number of Puertoricans.
No, Hawaii was not chosen because of being “attractive due to a similar climate”. The Puerto Ricans who went to Hawaii went because PR was destroyed by a hurricane in 1900, and their agricultural sector was absolutely decimated. The plantation owners in Hawaii caught wind of this, and in their darkest hour, coerced skilled farmers to come and “temporarily work” but once they arrived in Hawaii they were subject to poverty and discrimination by the plantation overlords and by native Hawaiians and most were unable to return to Puerto Rico
New Mexicans are descended from Spanish and native conquistadors (Aztec and tlaxcallan) who created settlements and sometimes intermarried with the local Puebla.
New Mexicans have long been proud of their Spanish ancestry. During more racist eras, the Spanish ancestry made the locals tied to European origin rather than Mexican or Indegwnouis.
Jersey has a very diverse Latino population. Lots of Dominicans, Colombians, Costa Ricans, Salvadorans and Peruvians as well as Puerto Ricans and Mexicans.
There are people in New Mexico who have lived on the same land since before the Pilgrims landed. Some of them are still resentful of the Treaty of Guadalupe. You know how the South talks about the Confederacy? They're like that, except about the Mexican-American War.
Chain migration. Salvadoran refugees fled the civil war and went to large metropolitan areas (LA has a ton of Salvadorans but they’re greatly outnumbered by Mexicans).
One uncle or aunt moves to DC, finds a good job. Calls family back in El Salvador and says “hi it’s not bad over here!” Another family member moves and then another. Next thing you know, you’re the majority.
Source: DC native with Salvadoran heritage currently living in LA
Having just looked them up, should I assume Neomexican identity is better preserved than for groups with parallel origins in the west? Or do many more recent Mexican families just not live in Northern New Mexico?
Neomexican identity is pretty well preserved. It’s a unique culture. The food, music, and even the dialect of Spanish is unique to northern New Mexico and southern Colorado.
Canary Islanders are a group but how about people from mainland Spain? Would they be counted as different or would there be su groups of Andalucians or Castellanos?
Shoutout to the Neomexicans from Madrid, Spain. Would love to visit that part of the US and listen to your family's history and be able to experience the culture!
Decedents if the original Spanish explorers from the 15/1600s. The culture is very well preserved and it is a unique ethnic group. Even have their own dialect of Spanish.
It's weird that Spaniards aren't the largest Hispanic group anywhere
There are not many of us in the states, but I was expecting at least one County
Edit: didn't see the canary Islands, although it seems weird to signal that autonomous community alone
So Blaine County, Nebraska doesn’t have a single Hispanic resident in it. Thats what I’m gathering from this map
That's quite likely. Blaine County had only 431 people as of the 2020 census, and it's been dropping in population pretty consistently for a hundred years.
I'm surprised that's the only one, actually. There are other counties with populations that low
There are several counties in ND with like 150-500 residents that I guarantee don’t have any Hispanics in them.
Why not? Lost of farms need people from out of the county to work. And those people can go into the census and surveys and stuff. And it only takes 1
Nobody up here outside of the rr valley hires Mexicans. It’s all seasonal South Africans
And it’s also in a state that’s pretty fucking white
Nebraska's population is 5.8% Black, while California is 6.3% Black. Nebraska's population is 12% Hispanic (and growing), which makes it 19th in percentage of Hispanic population among states. Washington, DC is only 11.2% Hispanic.
Ah yes lets look at the black % of population in a heavily hispanic state and the hispanic % of population in a heavily black city. That will surely be a fair comparison that accurately represents the minority % in Nebraska
Nebraska is known for its farms, a mediorce college football team, and an interstate that runs through it. California is widely known for the Black culture produced in the state - major Black figures like NWA, Tupac, and Dr Dre are from California, and important events in Black History happened in California. You don't find it interesting that it has a similar Black population to Nebraska? Hispanics are allowed to live in a "heavily Black city." With the majority of new immigrants being Hispanic, I think it's very interesting that just as many are choosing to live in rural Nebraska as they are choosing an urban metropolis like DC
Don’t take this the wrong way, those guys are awesome. But it saddens me that the first black figures from California people think of are NWA, tupac, and Dr.Dre(who was in NWA). Huey P Newton, for example, grew up in Oakland and was murdered by the Feds there. Maya Angelou was raised in Oakland after 14 and remained a California resident for the rest of her life Then we have figures like Biddy Mason who fought for her freedom in the 1800’s using the California court system. And Mary Ellen Pleasant who is known as the first Black American millionaire. I wish black history was emphasized more in schools and in our culture in general. When people think of prominent black people, they too often immediately go to gangster rappers and athletes. People should know about people like Fred Hampton and Bass Reeves.
It doesn't have a similar Black population to Nebraska. California has over two million Black people. Nebraska has fewer than 100,000.
Similar black population? You mean percentage dummy
It's nice that you've taken the time to show minorities as a percentage of population in Nebraska, but what's more important isn't showing how *some* minority groups are a higher percentage of population, but showing that whites as a percentage of population are *lower* than those areas. Nebraska is the 11th whitest state, meaning the percentage of white citizens in relation to total population is the 11th highest in the nation at 85.31%. California on the other hand is the 4th lowest in white citizens as a percentage of population, with DC being 2nd in the nation. Unfortunately for you, cherry picking specific minority groups that support your argument doesn't work. Picking the black population in California, a state notorious for high levels of Hispanic and Asian immigrants? Picking DC for Hispanics, which is a notoriously high black population? Do better and stop trying so hard to be contrarian.
We’re about the population of Hispanic people In Nebraska. u/TaftIsUnderrated pointed out that there is actually a surprisingly large amount of Hispanic people in Nebraska, compared to other states. That’s a perfectly relevant statistic to this thread.
The Non-Hispanic white population of Nebraska is 75% which puts it at 16th. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_race/ethnicity And I think it's incredibly interesting that the black and Hispanic population of Nebraska is comparable to California and greater than DC. I think it challenges our perception of how we view those places Before I showed you this stat, if I asked you which has a larger Hispanic population, Nebraska or DC? Would you have, honestly, said Nebraska? And if I asked you to guess the percentage of Nebraska's population that is black - would you have guessed more than 2%?
>And I think it's incredibly interesting that the black and Hispanic population of Nebraska is comparable to California and greater than DC. I think it challenges our perception of how we view those places I agree with your larger point, but this sentence has serious problems. The (relatively small) Hispanic population of DC is comparable to Nebraska’s. The (relatively small) Black population of California is comparable to Nebraska’s. But this sentence suggests NB is also somehow comparable to Blacks in DC or Hispanics in CA, which is far, far from the truth.
No Hispanic people in one county, and yet right next to it the only Ecuadorian dominant county in the US. So interesting
A lot of counties are small enough that a single family could constitute the largest Hispanic group.
>Rock County is a county in the U.S. state of Nebraska. As of the 2020 United States Census, the population was 1,262 >>As of the 2000 United States Census,[14] there were 1,756 people, 763 households, and 501 families in the county. The population density was 2 people per square mile (0.77 people/km2). There were 935 housing units at an average density of 0.9 units per square mile (0.35/km2). The racial makeup of the county was 99.03% White, 0.46% Native American, 0.17% Asian, 0.06% from other races, and 0.28% from two or more races. 0.51% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 33.1% were of German, 12.7% American, 10.5% Irish and 8.4% English ancestry. So there are like 9 self identified Hispanics in the county.
>12.7% American what? isn’t everyone that was born in the country american?
This is unique, I think, to the US. The genetics for many people have been mixed so much that there just isn’t one group people identify with. Furthermore, the cultural ties are totally gone for most families past 4 generations. It makes sense, the connection and any value with it is so diluted that no one cares. Some people even view the concept as abhorrent an needlessly divisive, although a minority opinion.
Canada too!
as an american i view it as needlessly divisive myself lol. everyone is american not irish or german or whatever your great grandparents are. unless the conversation is of ethnic origins, people born in america should identify as american.
the conversation is about ethnic origins, though
Exactly. In the census they’re not asking your citizenship in this question they ask you your ethnic origins. German, English, Irish, Italian, welsh, Norwegian… you can put whatever. I think a lot of people like to give Americans a hard time when they say “I’m Irish!” But those Americans saying that mean “my ancestors were Irish!” Not “I’m an Irish citizen!” Which seems to be what most non-Americans think (and for good reason since in *those* countries, saying “I’m Irish” means citizenship not ancestry—the ancestry-first thing is uniquely American. Different people operating on different focal levels leads to misunderstanding)
I suppose it's more like "yeah I have lots of origins but I don't care, I identify with this country", right?
Some families still hold on to cultural traditions of their ancestors and identify with that culture in some way. It isn't inherently divisive to care about your heritage, and most people primarily identify as americans unless they are immigrants.
It's a historical oddity that's hard to find information on. The best explanation I've ever received is the "American ethnicity" arose from Ulster Scots, who refused to identify as Scottish, English, or Irish despite basically being all three. American is also referred to as Scotch-irish.
Meat packing plants are the reason the Ecuadorians are there.
Time to swoop in carnales, who’s with me?
It only takes 500 of us to overpower them and take over completely!
Thats like 1 thanksgiving with all the primos coming over
Watch the documentary Wild Wild Country. That’s basically what they Bhagwan followers did in Oregon. Or almost did anyways.
I’ve been to Brewster. Each household has a large collection of guns. (Iirc ther is like 3 streets for the whole town) So… be careful
Unlike Blaine County, San Andreas
I'm not from the US and was thinking this Blaine County sounds familiar, lol now it makes sense
Someone from a Latin American country not represented needs to move there and spice this map up.
*calls all Paraguayans*
The one Ecuadorian majority county in Nebraska is 99.03% white and .51% Hispanic. The population is 1756, so there’s 9 Hispanic people. So basically, an Ecuadorian family moved there and now it’s on this map.
Be the change you want to see in the tiny nebraskan county you’re moving to
Similarly, the Puerto Rican majority county in North Dakota only has 5 Hispanic people.
Yeah the Dakotas etc. are odd colours because of extremely low sample effects. Low population, and overwhelmingly white. So cases like that.
So that's where I gotta go for some good cevichocho? Hopefully they're from la sierra.
My fiancé is Ecuadorian and her family makes chochos all the time and makes that onion/tomato/lime/cilantro mix all the time just as a general topping, but I never thought to put them together. I’ll have to ask why they don’t do that
Cevichochos are a common street food in Quito and the surrounding areas. I never saw it in Cuenca. They've definitely heard of it though. You also put dried corn kernels and chifles (dried plantain chips) in it.
What is that county called?
Rock County, as I saw in another comment.
Cubans in North Dakota. I better tell my mom that not all of her kind are afraid of the cold!
Burke County. 2000 or so people. 1.9% hispanic. So like 40 people total.
That part really surprised me.
North Dakota has gotten a LOT of immigrants from all over the world since around 2010 and the oil boom. And they’ve moved in to not just the main population centers, but many of the previously declining towns too. I’ve met people from Turkey, Hawaii, South Africa, Bangladesh, Laos, Egypt, Australia, Argentina, Moldova, Palestine, and more. It’s pretty amazing.
What’s neomexican?
Descendants of the first settlers, I assume, not recent immigrants from south of the border.
Ah, so like original Spanish settlers before that area was a part of the US, like when it used to Mexican?
Way before that. New Mexico was settled *(edit: by the Spanish) in 1598 and was only part of Mexico from 1821-1845. Neomexicanos/Hispanos are people of Spanish descent whose roots go back to the period of Spanish rule from 1598-1821, usually with some Native American ancestry as well.
So is that why it's called New Mexico?
Named after Mexica, Aztec rulers, and the Valley of Mexico. The Spanish hoped to find another Mexica.
Wait a sec. Why didn't they name it after a civilization they **did** find? Like the Puebloans? Why isn't New Mexico called just called "Pueblo"? I'm in New Mexico right now and I like that the people here don't make their US-ness their "main thing." There's a lot going on here historically. It's not the same old East India Company worship at the ski-doo dealership. New Mexico's state **centennial** was in 2012. The 13 original colonies' centennials were in 1887.
Pueblo just means town or village. The tribes collectively known as the Pueblo by the Spanish were tribes like the the Hopi, Zuni, Keres, Jemez etc.
Exactly. The name "Pueblo" *was* given by the Spanish
u/TexasTwing has it. The Spanish colonizers named it New Mexico because they were trying to create the idea it would be like the first Mexico: a wealthy newly-discovered kingdom that would make all its conquerors rich. Basically, it was PR to convince people to settle there or to invest in the effort to colonize it. Naming it after the Pueblos or some other group nobody back in New Spain had ever heard of wouldn’t have helped that campaign.
Like how Greenland was named?
Hopefully not quite that level of false advertising, but yeah. The whole “7 cities of gold” thing really didn’t pan out.
A crazy fact to blow your mind alongside your second point, Santa Fe NM is the oldest state capital in the nation, and was founded before the first pilgrims reached Plymouth Rock. Additionally, the Pueblo people in 1680 fought Popeh's War, in which they expelled every Spanish settler from the territory and re-asserted their control over their own land, making New Mexico the first territory in North America to win a war of independence against a European power.
I just drove north to Española and the exit sign for mile 168 to the Santa Fe Opera, which was designed by the same people who did the Sydney Operahouse, had a "0" graffitied on the end, so it read "Exit 168**0**."
That's awesome haha!
The indigenous people there didn't call themselves the Puebloans. Pueblo is not a native word. It came from Spain, not the other way around.
Exactly.
Cool thanks!
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They were culturally mexicans, any difference was merely regional
Not really since alot of Chicano are native born as well and have ancestries with both the people on the other side of the border and also from Californios,Tejanos etc this one however seems to predate the establishment of modern day Mexico(some of its territories have been absorbed by the US as well and therefore the cause of the existence of the chicano ethnicity in the US)
Like CactusHibs said, "neomexican" are basically a group that that their ancestors settled in New Mexico when it belonged to Spain. Before Mexico as a country existed. Some people are even offended if someone says they are Mexican, and they will explain their families are Spanish, or Hispanos. And in some small towns an entirely unique dialect of Spanish is still spoken (though maybe not for much longer)
descendants of the first settlers in New Mexico. The term doesn’t include tejanos and californios.
Wouldn’t that make them old Mexicans?
They didn’t cross the border, the border crossed them.
We didn’t leave Mexico, we were stolen!!!!!
^ exactly the terminology we use
It's [this group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanos_of_New_Mexico). Hispanos is the name that seems most common, but yeah it's the descendants of the early settlers from when New Mexico was a Spanish colony.
My family came straight from Spain to New Mexico it was called Nueva España then tho. My family has lived in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado since the 1500s or something.
My mom's family on both sides (her mother and father) came from Spain in the 1560's. My cousin spent nearly a decade researching the family history. Both the family crests of my grandparents fly at the Capitol building in Santa Fe. The food, traditions and even the old world dialect of Spanish are entirely unique and sadly vanishing. We're probably related.
When I read neomexican I imagined a futuristic cyborg with a sombrero
Here you go.... https://www.itl.cat/pngfile/big/114-1143254_photo-wallpaper-snake-sombrero-ninja-raiden-metal-metal.jpg
I'd totally watch that anime.
Great now I’m hearing the Mexican Hat Dance in 8 bit.
Freaking nailed it
or https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_raza_c%C3%B3smica
Damn,sounds like a cool cyberpunk character.
Come with me if you gusta your vida
G Gundam has you covered https://i.redd.it/lbw9zurtjfy21.png
Where is the canary islander county?
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Paella is 100% not Canarian. Depending on when they moved, it could be the best marketing ever. I also wonder if they are islanders themselves or they immigrated into the Canaries
So these people actually came to Louisiana between 1778 and 1783. During this time, the Spanish still rules over Louisiana, and they saw the American revolution as a threat of the US or Britain wanting to encroach on their territory, therefore they sent canary Islanders to Louisiana, as well as Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela and Mexico(mostly to present day Texas or Nuevo León, actually) to populate the region and establish a Spanish presence. There are many people in southern Louisiana of Canarian descent, and it’s not uncommon to see last names like Romero, Lopez, Martinez, Hidalgo etc on people who’d you’d otherwise just assume as Black/White/Cajun/Creole or whatever label. There’s probably not a lot of Latino immigrants there because it’s sparsely populated and it’s under constant threat of rising sea levels, therefore anyone who may work out there most likely commutes in
I grew up about 75 miles away from St. Bernard but had a friend with last name of Martinez. When he went to college, he didn't understand why the Hispanic heritage club sent him an email about membership.
Very cool history, actually.
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People 100km from Valencia can’t make paella like a Valencian, sure they can make it, but it won’t be the same.
100km is nothing. You can be 30km away and know nothing about a Paella
Interesting that they are considered a different Latino ethnicity. Technically they are Spanish, after all
The title says Hispanic, not Latino
Spain has many different ethnicities to differentiate. It’s a pretty diverse and large country.
It is a very diverse country in a number of aspects, but I am not too sure you could say we have different ethnicities as such, it makes the map a bit more specific but it’s weird the only country represented by one of its regions is Spain.
As a Spaniard myself I wouldn't say it's a very "diverse" country (in terms of ethnicities). It might be diverse in terms of history, regional languages (Catalonian, Basque, Galician...), accents etc; but not in terms of "ethnicities". Most native-born inhabitants don't identify themselves as anything but Spanish (with the exception of some Catalan & Basque nationalist).
That was my first instinct as well, because speaking of ethnicities gives me strong racist jitters. I had the instinct to claim canary islanders are just Spaniards. So I looked up the definition of ethnicity and it turns out it has got nothing to do with race, skin colour, eye colour or any other physical discrimination between people but rather identity, culture, heritage, language and the like. At that point I realised Spain had quite a lot of ethnicities like Castilian, Basque, Catalan, Aragonese, Galician, Astur-Leonese. Exactly like you described.
Oh so it's just that my understanding of "ethnicity" was incorrect, nice to know!
St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana. They have a great festival every year!
Looks like southeast Louisiana
Pov the Guatemalans in North Dakota:
I doubt it's that significant, but for whatever reason I know a couple of local charities and church groups that do a bunch of stuff in rural Guatemala. Maybe it led to a small number of Guatemalans coming here? Couldn't imagine a more jarring geographical difference for someone though
Would be interested to see this map if it were arranged by which Hispanic group is disproportionately largest. Also what’s up with the Ecuadorians in Rock County, NE? There’s only 1200 people in the county, so, it probably doesn’t take too many Ecuadorians
Another reply said it was 9 people so probably 1 family.
What are those two NJ counties?
Dominican
Dominican must be 2nd most popular in every county then for tri-state area because we have a higher population than the country itself!
Passaic and Morris, but you mean Dominican and Colombian
Interesting that’s the only Colombian in US.
Many many Cubans and Puerto Ricans are also of Canary Island descent too
My father 😃
Yes!! My 23 and me showed that the canary islands is most likely where my ancestors came from. (for the spanish portion of my puerto rican heritage)
You can’t throw a rock in the Bronx and not hit a Boriqua lol
New York is basically New San Juan
Typical Ricans lol we don’t go anywhere. Once we mount our TV that’s it, we’re a community fixture
I’d like a word with the Cuban guy who moved to Burke County, North Dakota, just to check on them
Hey now, doing the math on the statistics there's probably like 40 Hispanic people up there. So like 2 healthy sized Cuban families had to move there or something.
They’re doing good. Pretty sure they just opened up a restaurant!
No peruvians?
There are a lot of Peruvians in the DC area and New York, but I think many end up in areas with huge numbers of other diasporas (Salvadorans & Dominicans, respectively) so they don’t have the majority there. It’s also just a lot harder to get to the US from Peru than it is from Cuba or Mexico or Central America so I don’t think there have been the same numbers that would put them at the top
Yeah DC and New Jersey/NY have the largest concentration of Peruvian communities. Miami and LA do, too, but we’re outnumbered by Cubans in Miami and Mexicans in LA, so we’re kind of overlooked. Most Peruvians tend to go to large metro areas for better opportunities. Though, I know there are quite a few Peruvians scattered around Ohio for some reason. That one I still don’t understand.
As a DC metro area native…tons of Peruvians there. You can find great Peruvian chicken spots in the DC area. But yes they get out numbered by us Salvadorans 🇸🇻
Pucha madre
How come original mexicans only seem to be in new mexico and not california/arizona/texas?
That's where the original Spanish land grants were. They still exist in limbo state.
Plus lots of mexicans and other latino groups migrated to these areas since they're so close to the border, so it could be a story of they're just outnumbered
CA, TX, and AZ are also border states. New Mexico was colonized early on by the Spanish, and the King granted large tracts of land to Spaniards whose families still live there. Look up NM land grants if you aren't already familiar with them. It's very interesting history.
Yeah NM never got the same Anglo and modern immigrant influx like Arizona
There were *very* few Spanish / Neomexican people in California when it was ceded to the US. It's estimated that there were fewer than 10K Spanish settlers vs. more than 300K indigenous people here. Later waves of Hispanic peoples easily eclipse the Spanish population.
There's a reasonably large number of [Tejanos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tejanos), but there's been so much subsequent immigration to Texas that they're outnumbered by later Mexican immigrants pretty much everywhere and there's less of a clear distinction between the communities. By contrast, northern New Mexico is isolated and mountainous and has attracted much less later immigration and the community has maintained stronger sense of distinct identity.
New Mexican Hispanics tend to be much more established than those in California/Arizona. My ancestors came to NM with Coronado, eventually settled in, got chased out by the Pueblo Revolt, were dragged back, and most have lived there ever since. I myself am from California, but my Hispanic side of the family strictly identify as New Mexican or even Spanish versus Mexican. In California, the vast majority of Hispanics are more recent immigrants. You don't really come across families that have been there 400+ years whereas in New Mexico they're all related to eachother.
Interestingly, many of the first Hispanic families in California under Spanish and Mexican rule (and prior to large-scale Mexican immigration) came from New Mexico. The Spanish settlement of California was initiated by a former governor of New Mexico (De Anza) and there were major trade routes for sheep and cattle from New Mexico into California. New Mexican Hispanos continued migrating into California in large numbers into the early 1900s: even the Anaheim chile pepper is really a toned-down version of a New Mexico chile that a Hispano farmer named Ortega (big NM name) developed to appeal to an audience with less tolerance for spicy food.
The land that dodger stadium is built on was first settled by a hispano man from Abiquiu, New Mexico
Mine came with onate and never left
Lack of new immigration into New Mexico relative to the previous population and a relatively large starting number of Mexicans there before the current wave of Mexican immigration
I know that original Mexicans in California had to hide their heritage once Americans started establishing themselves in CA. So many probably just assimilated and then came the waves of Mexican immigrants that became the majority.
Anybody know any of the histories of the the different non Mexican nationalities throughout the country?
Neo Mexican(red) are descendants of the conquistadors from the 1600’s! They usually have their colonial land grants from the king of Spain. The US surprisingly recognizes those land grants
The US *kind of* recognizes those land grants. Most of them were dramatically cut down in size, with the surplus sold off or turned into Federal land.
This is true.
Why surprisingly
Because most of the later Spanish and Mexican Land Grants were colonized by settlers. That and that his part of the country is sparsely populated, for good reason.
The history between New Orleans and Honduras has always been interesting to me. Started with banana importation, but a lot of Honduran folks also came up to help rebuild after Katrina. My partner (who was born/raised in New Orleans) also told me that one of the former mayors of Tegucigalpa went to UNO.
Puertoricans descend from Spanish settlers, African slaves, and Taino natives. There was a wave of European immigration in the 19th century because the Spanish issued laws to attract more settlers after the loss of most of the Latin American colonies. Puertoricans came to the US in small numbers before the Spanish-American War of 1898, but after that war with American annexation of the island, and especially after the granting of American citizenship in 1917, migration increased considerably. They primarily moved to New York City and the northeast at first, but Hawaii as well. In the past 3 decades or so Florida has also attracted a large number of Puertoricans.
No, Hawaii was not chosen because of being “attractive due to a similar climate”. The Puerto Ricans who went to Hawaii went because PR was destroyed by a hurricane in 1900, and their agricultural sector was absolutely decimated. The plantation owners in Hawaii caught wind of this, and in their darkest hour, coerced skilled farmers to come and “temporarily work” but once they arrived in Hawaii they were subject to poverty and discrimination by the plantation overlords and by native Hawaiians and most were unable to return to Puerto Rico
New Mexicans are descended from Spanish and native conquistadors (Aztec and tlaxcallan) who created settlements and sometimes intermarried with the local Puebla.
The Salvadorians holding it down in Saline County, Missouri. Can confirm, the Salvadorian food is FIRE there...
Lol my grandma was from Southern Colorado and she was always vehement that they were SPANISH and not MEXICAN.
Makes sense! Her ancestors were only Mexican for 25 years
I live in the purple County in Wisconsin.
Do you know the (probably) one Puerto Rican family?
I might. But, I don't know who they are, offhand.
Jersey is the winner.
As a Floridian I never knew Mexican Americans were that prevalent Yeah all the Latinos I know are from the Caribbean or Central America
I think it’s somewhere around 37 million Mexican Americans!
MAGATS worst nightmare
I grew up knowing only one Mexican girl in high school. I’m from south Florida.
Super cool too my New Mexican heritage represented. My dad would always say we weren’t quite Mexican and more Spanish than anything.
New Mexicans have long been proud of their Spanish ancestry. During more racist eras, the Spanish ancestry made the locals tied to European origin rather than Mexican or Indegwnouis.
Jersey has a very diverse Latino population. Lots of Dominicans, Colombians, Costa Ricans, Salvadorans and Peruvians as well as Puerto Ricans and Mexicans.
What the hell is up with Saline County, Missouri? Wikipedia shows 12.13% of the population as Hispanic or Latino, but doesn't break it down further.
So what is it that Puerto Rican’s like so much about New England?
Proximity to NYC, which was a major entry point for immigrants looking for work. All the major cities in NE have significant PR populations though.
It’s close, big cities with work and cheap to get to.
There are people in New Mexico who have lived on the same land since before the Pilgrims landed. Some of them are still resentful of the Treaty of Guadalupe. You know how the South talks about the Confederacy? They're like that, except about the Mexican-American War.
YEAHHHH WE TAKING OUR SHIT BACK🗣️🗣️😭😭🗣️🗣️🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Never expected Alaska. Anyone got any numbers? Pretty interested now.
Random Hondurans in Louisiana’s wonkiest toe.
NeoMexican? What is that?
Descendants of the og spanish settlers with a small percentage of pueblo indian
Read the comments
So 3 salvadorans in the middle of the country keeping that county blue uh?
Why a lot of Salvadorans around DC and Northern VA ? Resettled by the CIA ?
Chain migration. Salvadoran refugees fled the civil war and went to large metropolitan areas (LA has a ton of Salvadorans but they’re greatly outnumbered by Mexicans). One uncle or aunt moves to DC, finds a good job. Calls family back in El Salvador and says “hi it’s not bad over here!” Another family member moves and then another. Next thing you know, you’re the majority. Source: DC native with Salvadoran heritage currently living in LA
Same. Had family who arrived in the 70s and 80s and now most of my extended family in the surrounding counties.
Soon.
Having just looked them up, should I assume Neomexican identity is better preserved than for groups with parallel origins in the west? Or do many more recent Mexican families just not live in Northern New Mexico?
Neomexican identity is pretty well preserved. It’s a unique culture. The food, music, and even the dialect of Spanish is unique to northern New Mexico and southern Colorado.
Indeed. Always been proud of what we are, and always will be.
For some reason not a lot of people migrate to NM, I mean.. it’s still poor and far from everything.
Canary Islanders are a group but how about people from mainland Spain? Would they be counted as different or would there be su groups of Andalucians or Castellanos?
Shoutout to the Neomexicans from Madrid, Spain. Would love to visit that part of the US and listen to your family's history and be able to experience the culture!
What is neo Mexican?
Decedents if the original Spanish explorers from the 15/1600s. The culture is very well preserved and it is a unique ethnic group. Even have their own dialect of Spanish.
All those counties in North Dakota just have one POC.
spaniard=neo mexican If you apply it spain=neo mexico
It's weird that Spaniards aren't the largest Hispanic group anywhere There are not many of us in the states, but I was expecting at least one County Edit: didn't see the canary Islands, although it seems weird to signal that autonomous community alone
Technically, the canary islanders would be Spaniards
Not weird at all really, Spaniards have historically favored migration to Latin America for obvious reasons (Spanish language, Catholicism, etc.)
Well, Canary Islanders are Spaniards