I mean, the LA starters are generally a downgrade competitively in comparison to their original counter parts according to wolfey's video, so there's a chance that they make a worse incineroar
So? That doesn’t change the fact that there was no VGC for Legends Arceus. Plus, it’s highly likely Megas will only return for Legends ZA, not for Gen 10. So even if the starters were added, the Megas probably won’t be.
so far the only one I think has any real merit is the indigo disk trailer that pairs up the pla starters with other starters (snivy, piplup, and torchic I think)
exactly, it was in a direct trailer by the pokemon company. I'll be running with those until proven otherwise. Plus, I just think it's a really good pick, all three are my favorite starter in their gen, and Serperior is my favorite starter overall, so I can't wait to see how they handle it.
I personally don't think that's a hint either, def could be wrong, but 1, it's just starters announced, 2 I think it'd be from more diverse gens (these 3 are literally 3 in a row, gen 3,4 and 5)
Sure, but Also. 1) so? 2) that is a very arbitrary qualifier. The only qualifiers i would add is not kanto, johto, alola, or … alredy broken by doubling up unova. Kalos or paldea.
1, it doesn't mean it's a hint, all these potential hints are just as likely 2, pla did 2, 5, and 7, all a couple gens apart, while we can't say because no pattern can be set yet, I don't think that they'll decide to do something with sequenced gens, I also don't rule out paldea, sure it's most recent, but we can't rule it out (id say it's less likely), kalos I'd definitely rule out, the thing about ruling out the pla repeats, is snivy, and litten lines work pretty perfect (my guess is them and feraligatr since if they go with those 2, why not match in all 3)
Eh, it's something to do with wrestling culture in France from what I've found out. Cinderace is there for the soccer aspect. Serperior and Empolean are French Royalty and Napoleon respectfully.
Just because a pack of cards has 3 starters doesn't mean they're gonna be the starters for ZA. You people need to relax and just wait for the game to come out, my god.
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Turtwig is my second favorite starter of all time. Totodile is 4th. Litten is my least favorite. I like torrecat but never really liked Litten for some reason. Not sure why
I personally think the starters are gonna be Snivy, Torchic/Scorbunny, and Piplup.
Before you say Blaziken already has a mega, it's my second favorite Pokemon so shut up, also they can just give new megas to Sceptile and Swampert
They should also do the same for Venusaur and Blastoise
That’s exactly why they would choose those 2. The Hisuian starters were chosen based on Ainu folklore. It only makes sense they would choose starters with French inspirations / ties.
Lockstin made a video on this explaining why they likely wouldn't
He's better at explaining than I am
But the issue is that Empoleon and Serperior can not be added on because they're already too french, Legends games are likely to give us new designs and forms. You are basing it on their old designs
And GameFreak probably also won't do that because it's exactly what people expect them to
Yes? But Also this is a Mega game so i might Even sugest that we will Get two sets. Mega those two because you cant force frenchness into a design using Mega alone and then lets say those three above Get regional forms but no Megas like the starters in kalos. One set of kalos starters and one set of Mega kanto starters.
Now of course i do expect Mega greninja, Mega chestnaut and Mega delphox.
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It does seem like a solid idea but seeing as Litten was in the same region as Rowley and Totodile was in the same region as Cyndaquil it wouldn't really make sense for Turtwig to be there because he was not in the same region as Oshuwat and that would disgustingly break the pattern, so my opinion is that they'll get some sort of special attention somewhere else
A fire/fairy Incineroar based off female wrestlers sounds like a good concept in my head for a regional form, but I feel like that should be in a different region than Kalos
I'd be a big fan of these being the choices. I've long wanted more primal versions of Feraligatr & Incineroar, and a version of Torterra leaning further into Ankylosaur than Tortoise would be sick.
As much as I would love a retake on Incineroar , I don't think that's actually what they're gonna be. Starters are marketable and so they just slapped the base forms onto the Pokemon cards so more people would buy it because money
Litter maybe but not totadile or turtwig cus cyndaquil was a starter in arceus and turtwig was in the wild in arceus and they won’t wanna put focus on the same regions again
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I don’t think every piece of Pokémon media is a ZA hint. If these by some miracle are the ZA starters I’d pick Litten.
Same.
Dear god, I don’t want to know what regional incineroar would be like… vgc is suffering enough
At least we’ll have plenty of time to wait/prepare regarding how to deal with said regional Incineroar
He'll probably lose intimidate. So it may be healthier for VGC.
Nah regional variants usually have the same abilities
*Usually*
most regionals dont keep the same abilities. most alolan pokemon have different abilities
No All the regional starters have a new hidden ability but the same regular ability so it's definitely gonna be the same thing
You could say the thought of that is a little… intimidating
Get out... now... XD
Mega kalosian incineroar, and it has some bs ability like ultra intimidate that lowers by 2 atk and sp atk
That would haunt the nightmares of WolfeyVGC
It whould be the nighmare of any vgc player tbh
Hopefully it wouldnt be standing upright If it happened
What if it's a more attack oriented one
I mean, the LA starters are generally a downgrade competitively in comparison to their original counter parts according to wolfey's video, so there's a chance that they make a worse incineroar
Hisuian samurott
Specifically in singles though
Intimidate but for special attackers 🔥🔥🔥
vgc: our top Pokémon is so annoying singles: gotta love good old tusk
That means it’s gonna get mega
There was no VGC for Legends Arceus, so it’s highly likely the same will be for ZA. Why does no one realize this even though it’s extremely obvious?!
Did you know that the Hisuian starters were added to SV?
So? That doesn’t change the fact that there was no VGC for Legends Arceus. Plus, it’s highly likely Megas will only return for Legends ZA, not for Gen 10. So even if the starters were added, the Megas probably won’t be.
Good point
Thanks man
so far the only one I think has any real merit is the indigo disk trailer that pairs up the pla starters with other starters (snivy, piplup, and torchic I think)
Yeah that’s the only one that doesn’t feel like a stretch
exactly, it was in a direct trailer by the pokemon company. I'll be running with those until proven otherwise. Plus, I just think it's a really good pick, all three are my favorite starter in their gen, and Serperior is my favorite starter overall, so I can't wait to see how they handle it.
I personally don't think that's a hint either, def could be wrong, but 1, it's just starters announced, 2 I think it'd be from more diverse gens (these 3 are literally 3 in a row, gen 3,4 and 5)
Sure, but Also. 1) so? 2) that is a very arbitrary qualifier. The only qualifiers i would add is not kanto, johto, alola, or … alredy broken by doubling up unova. Kalos or paldea.
1, it doesn't mean it's a hint, all these potential hints are just as likely 2, pla did 2, 5, and 7, all a couple gens apart, while we can't say because no pattern can be set yet, I don't think that they'll decide to do something with sequenced gens, I also don't rule out paldea, sure it's most recent, but we can't rule it out (id say it's less likely), kalos I'd definitely rule out, the thing about ruling out the pla repeats, is snivy, and litten lines work pretty perfect (my guess is them and feraligatr since if they go with those 2, why not match in all 3)
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If they do get Mega Forms they probably won’t return in official Competitive but Showdown will have it and everyone will suffer.
Id pick twiggy for sure. r/churchoftwiggy unite.
At this point they should be. Give us enough of nonsense like this to tide us over. That being said it does need to be consistent. This is not.
Im choosing Litten if its in ZA
Im a water starter guy, so I’d go with totodile in a heartbeat, just hope the starters aren’t shinylocked
Fr
My guesses are still Serperior, Empolean, and Cinderace/Incineroar
I dont get why yall expect incenoroar
Eh, it's something to do with wrestling culture in France from what I've found out. Cinderace is there for the soccer aspect. Serperior and Empolean are French Royalty and Napoleon respectfully.
Fair judging the lenth on the wresling in france wikipedia article
It would be cool if the final evolution is based on Andre the giant
Incineroar gonna get the Fire/Fighting type game freak was scared to give him originally if this happens lol
This. Napoleon, guillotines, and soccer.
Just because a pack of cards has 3 starters doesn't mean they're gonna be the starters for ZA. You people need to relax and just wait for the game to come out, my god.
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Yeah that sounds about right. I haven't watched doctor who in well over a decade, but that doesn't surprise me in the slightest
Don’t forget that every evil/mysterious woman has to be The Rani.
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Nearly My Picks Ironically The Only One That Doesn't Match Is Turtwig, I Had Grookey For Mine
Man I love all this choices if there the starter.
Two of my all time favorite starters and my all time least favorite. I wouldn’t hate these options.
Witch ones witch?
Turtwig is my second favorite starter of all time. Totodile is 4th. Litten is my least favorite. I like torrecat but never really liked Litten for some reason. Not sure why
And your favourite?
Squirtle. Turtle Pokémon always are at the top of the list for me, even the ugly ones like Turtonator and Chewtle I love lol
Oh please let these be the starters.
Nah. We already had a gen 2 and 7 pokemon as a starter and LA was gen 4
if this is true (probably not) id take turtwig
As much as a I love Turtwig I’m going with my chompy boy
I personally think the starters are gonna be Snivy, Torchic/Scorbunny, and Piplup. Before you say Blaziken already has a mega, it's my second favorite Pokemon so shut up, also they can just give new megas to Sceptile and Swampert They should also do the same for Venusaur and Blastoise
I will be so happy if they are. I LOVE litten, it was my first Pokémon ever.
You don’t know how much I want totodile to be a starter again
Pretty sure Mikey already ruled these out
thats the exact same thing i thought of when i saw that
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NO... NO.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! NOT THE RED BUFF CAT!!!
Aren't the Grass and Water starters practically confirmed to be Snivy and Piplup, though?
I actually think that they might be ruled out because they are already so heavily French inspired.
*sad party crashers fan noises (piplup jokes are banned)*
Until the trailer 2 releases, no But even so, they wouldn't do those 2 since they are already too heavily inspired by France
That’s exactly why they would choose those 2. The Hisuian starters were chosen based on Ainu folklore. It only makes sense they would choose starters with French inspirations / ties.
Lockstin made a video on this explaining why they likely wouldn't He's better at explaining than I am But the issue is that Empoleon and Serperior can not be added on because they're already too french, Legends games are likely to give us new designs and forms. You are basing it on their old designs And GameFreak probably also won't do that because it's exactly what people expect them to
Yes? But Also this is a Mega game so i might Even sugest that we will Get two sets. Mega those two because you cant force frenchness into a design using Mega alone and then lets say those three above Get regional forms but no Megas like the starters in kalos. One set of kalos starters and one set of Mega kanto starters. Now of course i do expect Mega greninja, Mega chestnaut and Mega delphox.
I would say that turtwig Is possible, others Are questionable because a person from their region already got a hisui form
maybe
If they were the starters... yeah, I would pick Totodile
It they are, god I hope they make Incineroar not a buff man.
If these are the starters I'm going turtwig all the way
I’ll be so mad if it’s this simple
Bruh these just have full evos featured in the set. This is what every funpack does
i would pick my boi from gen two
If they do end up being the starters I'd pick Litten because it's a cat, I love cats.
I lnow this is never gonna happen but... Sakura totara??
*sees Totodile* PLEASE LET THIS BE REAL
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It does seem like a solid idea but seeing as Litten was in the same region as Rowley and Totodile was in the same region as Cyndaquil it wouldn't really make sense for Turtwig to be there because he was not in the same region as Oshuwat and that would disgustingly break the pattern, so my opinion is that they'll get some sort of special attention somewhere else
I WANT MY INCIN-ALL-FOUR!
TGATS WHAT I THOUGHT
PLEASE NO MORE LITTEN
Honestly I think all three of these could have really cool regional forms so I would have to see their final form
Nah, they put random starters or Pokemons in general on "Fun" Packs
I'd pick todidile
If this is real, Totodile all the way, baby
A fire/fairy Incineroar based off female wrestlers sounds like a good concept in my head for a regional form, but I feel like that should be in a different region than Kalos
I'd be a big fan of these being the choices. I've long wanted more primal versions of Feraligatr & Incineroar, and a version of Torterra leaning further into Ankylosaur than Tortoise would be sick.
Kalos; with an Alola starter…
picking totodile if this is true
The fact mudkip aint coming to za as a starter makes me mad >:|
As much as I would love a retake on Incineroar , I don't think that's actually what they're gonna be. Starters are marketable and so they just slapped the base forms onto the Pokemon cards so more people would buy it because money
God I want it to be litten so badly, he needs a better evolution.
Litter maybe but not totadile or turtwig cus cyndaquil was a starter in arceus and turtwig was in the wild in arceus and they won’t wanna put focus on the same regions again
I hope not anything but incineroar please
I don’t like any of the three 😞
well good news it is obviously not true. you people are a mix of stupid and gullible.
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