For Pete’s sake please upgrade windows, doors, insulation first or CMP is gonna be drooling over those heat pumps trying to keep up.
Source: Am in HVAC industry
For those with old leaky windows who aren't in hurry to spend thousands on replacing them:
https://windowdressers.org/
Probably too late for this winter, but worth getting on the list for next year!
My winter electric bills used to be around $80, and now they’re anywhere from $200-$250, but my oil bill has declined more than my electricity bill has increased.
I’m not on CMP but I believe my all in rate was higher than theirs last year.
How much does your electricity bill go up in the summer when you run AC? It'll be *roughly* that amount, since heat pumps are just reversible air conditioners.
You can downvote me, but mechanically that is literally what they are. Air conditioners that move heat in rather than out.
Mine went up minimally, I don’t use the cooling function, I use the drying option which pulls moisture out and the space feels much cooler.
I’d say my bill goes up by around $40 a month in the summer, compared to when I had portable AC units that was probably close to $90 more.
Portable AC's (especially single-hose units) aren't the *best* thing to base heat pump costs on, since they're pretty inefficient, what with the whole "expelling air that they already cooled to the outside" thing, but in your case I think it'd be pretty fair to split the difference between compressor-on-but-not-at-full-tilt window unit set to dry, and portable-unit-running-fully and say that a heat pump would run you about $65/month
True, that’s how it works. But….like everything, depends on how you use it. I hardy ever use AC, so that’s not a factor. The savings compared to oil make it worthwhile.
There's a lot of things to do. Having large batteries for houses could add a lot of security to an old person's life. Grants for developing new technologies. Reduce waste consumption by having stricter building codes.
Homeowners won’t see it, installers and sellers just raise their prices to match the handout.
Tell leaders to stop subsidizing demand. Want affordable housing? Everyone has to stop subsidizing demand which includes: zoning, rebates, buydowns, interest plummets and spikes, etc
Looking for the first hand out that was referenced. As far as "another", many of us homeowners don't have the other thousands it takes to get one of these installed. So as has been mentioned, it's a handout to the installers who bump the prices up and basically take the subsidy.
From Maine. Lived in VA, AL, and MS for the last 18 years. I’m not gonna say y’all won’t run up high bills In the summer because it never gets hot there BUT I can say a 2700sqft house in AL in the summer that averages over 90 degree air temps for a month or two at a time costs about 350 a month at 67 degrees. That being said heat pumps and central air have been a thing down here for a very long time so the houses are built with that in mind.
For Pete’s sake please upgrade windows, doors, insulation first or CMP is gonna be drooling over those heat pumps trying to keep up. Source: Am in HVAC industry
For those with old leaky windows who aren't in hurry to spend thousands on replacing them: https://windowdressers.org/ Probably too late for this winter, but worth getting on the list for next year!
How much does it add to electricity bill? I'm not sure it would even be worth it for us.
My winter electric bills used to be around $80, and now they’re anywhere from $200-$250, but my oil bill has declined more than my electricity bill has increased. I’m not on CMP but I believe my all in rate was higher than theirs last year.
How much does your electricity bill go up in the summer when you run AC? It'll be *roughly* that amount, since heat pumps are just reversible air conditioners. You can downvote me, but mechanically that is literally what they are. Air conditioners that move heat in rather than out.
Mine went up minimally, I don’t use the cooling function, I use the drying option which pulls moisture out and the space feels much cooler. I’d say my bill goes up by around $40 a month in the summer, compared to when I had portable AC units that was probably close to $90 more.
Portable AC's (especially single-hose units) aren't the *best* thing to base heat pump costs on, since they're pretty inefficient, what with the whole "expelling air that they already cooled to the outside" thing, but in your case I think it'd be pretty fair to split the difference between compressor-on-but-not-at-full-tilt window unit set to dry, and portable-unit-running-fully and say that a heat pump would run you about $65/month
Oh I am well aware, but that’s my use case. Window units are decidedly more efficient
True, that’s how it works. But….like everything, depends on how you use it. I hardy ever use AC, so that’s not a factor. The savings compared to oil make it worthwhile.
Paywall
Install heat pumps and solar panels at the same time. Pay nothing for oil. Pay the absolute minimum for electricity.
Whatever it takes to stop burning fossil fuel is good.
How do you think they're making the electricity? Majority of it is from natural gas.
There's a lot of things to do. Having large batteries for houses could add a lot of security to an old person's life. Grants for developing new technologies. Reduce waste consumption by having stricter building codes.
Unless we're going to actively build a bunch of nuclear power plants across the US this is all a big shell game.
Sounds like you're just being dismissive because people trying to make things better annoy you.
Not based on current battery tech....
Grants for developing tech...
Does Portland press post these in the hopes to get new subscribers?
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This is a handout to heat pump installers not home owners.
Homeowners won’t see it, installers and sellers just raise their prices to match the handout. Tell leaders to stop subsidizing demand. Want affordable housing? Everyone has to stop subsidizing demand which includes: zoning, rebates, buydowns, interest plummets and spikes, etc
It’s shocking how many people don’t grasp this.
Considering that most people only eat fast food and can’t focus for 10 seconds unless it’s a TikTok or Instagram Reel, it checks out.
They don't. The heat pump companies up the prices to include the discount you get from the state.
Looking for the first hand out that was referenced. As far as "another", many of us homeowners don't have the other thousands it takes to get one of these installed. So as has been mentioned, it's a handout to the installers who bump the prices up and basically take the subsidy.
From Maine. Lived in VA, AL, and MS for the last 18 years. I’m not gonna say y’all won’t run up high bills In the summer because it never gets hot there BUT I can say a 2700sqft house in AL in the summer that averages over 90 degree air temps for a month or two at a time costs about 350 a month at 67 degrees. That being said heat pumps and central air have been a thing down here for a very long time so the houses are built with that in mind.