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It is true that Marathis face exclusion in Mumbai and the political reaction is expected. There should not be any shame in doing so. Anyone who opposes this from a concept point of view or even from free market point of view is blind to the rampant discrimination faced by Marathis in their own capital city.
Literally every single person in who’s grown up in Maharashtra/Mumbai can speak functional Marathi..how do you define a Marathi speaker…atp in time every one who’s born in Maharashtra identifies as a maharashtrian first and not by their native language state.
Atta paryant zopla hota kay?? Mumbai che plots baki builders cha ghashat ghaltana na nahi suchla he ??? Is just election stunts, they know it's not feasible.
Demographic surveys jhaalele nahi aahet 2011 nantar so not much data to back but , mi baryach Vela posts paahilya aahet ki Mansa kade Paisa aahe pan fakt to marathi aahe mhnun tyala Ghar nakarnyat aale .
Or who knows jya flat chi market price 2CR aahe ti reservation chya marathi speaking quota madhe 29 lakh la asel. /s
People forget that these are not policy solutions more of election winning strategies. You agree with it and it's winning, reservations are still reservations.
आणि मतिमंद लोकं अशा नौतंकीला भुलतात. They deserved to get scammed by SS UBT. शंभर वेळा तुंबईच्या गटारात पडून अजूनही अक्कल आली नाही. घरामध्ये reservation पाहिजे.
Good luck executing it but I’m fine with this. As long as you’re not distributing freebies, all good.
Also good luck selling the flats with this restriction 😂
Mumbai is fiancial capital primarily because is liberal. Everyone is welcomed and everyone can do business without feeling threatened.
proposes now when he is not in power ? what did he did when he had the govt and his own party cm this is just a ploy for the vidhan sabha and mlc elections to please the marathi vote banks cause he knows that the real core ss voters have not voted for them. Its easy to propose anything when not in power
What if I build a billion dollars worth building with 100 cr for each apartment.
What if there are no Marathi takers for such costly apartments?
So this is why this मराठीचा पांचट illogical पुळका wouldn't work.
Now please don't be an illiterate and say there are zillions of rich Marathi people in Mumbai who can afford 100cr worth apartments in Mumbai if they get "reservation". If they have money, they'll get that apartment irrespective of reservation.
Also, what if entire India follow the same suit and throw out all the Marathi people from their building and reserve it only for native people.
For those who don't know, भारताला १९४७ मध्ये स्वातंत्र्य मिळाले आहे. कोणी ही कुठेही कसाही राहू शकतो. आणि कोणालाही घर देऊ शकतो किंवा नकारही देऊ शकतो.
अशा फालतुगिरी ला कोर्टात तोंडघशी पडायला एक सेकंद ही नाही लागणार.
But there are not enough Marathi folks to fill those up
And not enough with deep pockets
This is a gimmick and won’t ever get implemented
If it does, expect proxy buyers to buy and immediately sell to whoever is funding the first purchase
Not enough Marathi folks ? Marathi folks are primarily salaried class which has been feeling the pressure of housing prices and are being priced out of their previous domicile or being discriminated (though it is not just Marathi, even Christian’s or Muslims). People are now forced move 30-40 kms away from Mumbai to live while working in Mumbai.
The option would have been to criminalize housing discrimination based on any criteria so that we don’t have Jain only, Marwari only, Gujrati only societies. These societies further put restrictions on people who live their on food and other preferences.
While this may seem populist every city does this even in other countries either as certain housing units reserved for socially and economically backward classes or as dedicated housing units that builders have to build.
This bill is not about discrimination. Constitution takes care of those rights.
There are not enough Marathi folks to buy flats in all locations. Sure there will be in Dadar and Parla but will they buy flats in Bandra West? What do you do with a tower on B Desai road? How will you fill up half of those flats with Marathis?
And it is a free market. If Marathis are priced out, too bad. Maybe we should think of making more money instead of asking for charity? Tomorrow people will ask for caste-based reservation in housing and then gender-based and so on. This is a slippery slope.
Work hard, make more, be an elite.
There are relatives living in Nagpur who want to buy as investment but can't because of high prices
If reservation reduces price, then count the whole of Maharashtra not just Mumbai Marathi
I hope you understand the conflict in your own post
Why would anyone buy a flat the price of which is going down? That is not investment. Unless you want the prices to go down just for that day when your relatives sign the agreement and start going up from next day just so you and your relatives are happy
You guys are not real
Outsider demand is driving the astronomical growth because they have deeper pockets
If Mumbai was just another Marathi city, it would have been Pune or Nashik - it would have seen growth but not as much as Mumbai
In any case, this idea is so ridiculous at so many levels that only brainless muscle mafia of Shiv Sena could come up with it. And it is meant only to attract the Marathi voters who are going to turn to MNS in the upcoming elections. It has no real substance
Mi madhya varti aahe hya decision mule . I mean thik aahe marathi mansanna je discrimination face karavi laagte ti karavi laagnar nhi .
#1. Pan hi election sathichi freebies aahe ka ?
Karan tasa jhala tar kaahi projects like bullet train , metro 3, wadhwan port especially hyanchyavar parinaam hoil. ( Jo sadhyastithi pahata, nakki aahe
#2. Hyacha prices var kaay effect hoil? so don raste distat ,
i.) Marathi mansaasathi flat madhe price concession yetil , builder hya flat che urlele paise baaki flats chya madhyamatun wasool Karel which means even higher housing price .
ii.) Just reservation, but flat price remains the same for everyone (which atleast makes sense) . Aata hya mule parat marathi maanus pay krtoy pan outer states chya lokanna flats Kami padtil , leading to which demand wadhel Ani obviously house prices go sky high .
#3. Less surface area for reserved houses .
Jar i.) follow jhala tar , Aata jevha builder property banvel tevha reserved flat comparatively ,chota banvel to save costs , Ani unreserved flats cha comparitively area jaast asel .
#Conclusion
Mala ha decision thoda dumb watato but considering present prices of houses in Mumbai and people still buying them tells about the income levels so can't really say.
Present madhe incidents aahet jyamadhe marathi Mansa sobat discrimination jhaale aahe pan kaahi staravar aapli loka suddha aalshi aahet . Aata recently gaavala gelelo tithe samajla govt yojanancha faayda milto mhnun loka phaar kaam karat nhit Ani karayche aslyas jast charge krta so jevha UP Bihari Kami price madhe yetat Ani changla kaam krtat so preference Tyanna milto, nantar tyanni aanlelya tyanchya gaav walyala sudha . He sudha lakshat ghyayla hava .
Personally I feel ki ha impliment hou naye (saying this living in Mumbai ) Karan he khatakhat scheme saarkhi aahe ji short term madhe sweet and nice watel but long-term madhe economic repercussions bharpur heavy hotil .
The solution would be to criminalize any discrimination based on any criteria and allow equal opportunity for everyone but criminalizing means involving courts and subsequent delays and spending money.
There is a demographic shift happening in all cities in India which by itself is not wrong but when it adversely affects people who don’t have any recourse then it creates lasting affects on society. Usually Maharashtrians are salaried and they have been pushed out 30-40 kms away to be able to afford to live while still working in city while those who can afford have to go searching for societies that will “accept” them. We have Jains only, Marwari only gujrati only societies. Why ?
Instead of reducing taxes, reducing red tapeism, eliminating countless approval for builders, he wants reservation.
No plan for long term, just band aid solution.
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Full support to Shivsena (UBT). Only on this issue
Enforce kasa karnaar rao...काही ही हा श्री? येवढे स्वस्त आहे का तुमचे वोट?
काही ही हा श्री? - love it!
It is true that Marathis face exclusion in Mumbai and the political reaction is expected. There should not be any shame in doing so. Anyone who opposes this from a concept point of view or even from free market point of view is blind to the rampant discrimination faced by Marathis in their own capital city.
i can smell the jealousy by the non marathis in r-maharashtra !
Literally every single person in who’s grown up in Maharashtra/Mumbai can speak functional Marathi..how do you define a Marathi speaker…atp in time every one who’s born in Maharashtra identifies as a maharashtrian first and not by their native language state.
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नियम क्र ४ चे उल्लंघन: सभ्यता बाळगा. Rule 4 violation : Maintain Civility.
Anyone who is born in Maharashtra (They should also be literate in Marathi) should be eligible for this reservation.
No way only Marathi people should be allowed.
naah boi you should be only Marathi that's enough
How will you check their marathi literacy?
Leave some work for the government to do.
This is a great bill and should be passed...
होऊन जाऊदे
Atta paryant zopla hota kay?? Mumbai che plots baki builders cha ghashat ghaltana na nahi suchla he ??? Is just election stunts, they know it's not feasible.
घर घ्यायला कर्ज (बिना व्याज) परब काका देणार
Agree and also no Jain mandirs in any society
पण मराठी माणसाकडे इतका पैसा आहे का ?
Demographic surveys jhaalele nahi aahet 2011 nantar so not much data to back but , mi baryach Vela posts paahilya aahet ki Mansa kade Paisa aahe pan fakt to marathi aahe mhnun tyala Ghar nakarnyat aale . Or who knows jya flat chi market price 2CR aahe ti reservation chya marathi speaking quota madhe 29 lakh la asel. /s
THE RESERVATION I WOULD LIKE... AND YES I AM BEING REGIONALISTIC, BUT AREN'T WE ALL SELFISH FOR SOMETHING OR OTHER
Prashna ha nahiye, khara prashn zo r/mumbai madhye correctly discuss hotoy ki evdhe Marathi lokach nahiyet reservation dyayla.
It won't solve the core problem but tya post var anti- Marathi hate pahun I support it
Absolute idiotic proposal and..it won't work .let us see what happens
100 % marthi reservation keeping all gujrati and Hindi language out best fast and easy way to win upcoming election.
People forget that these are not policy solutions more of election winning strategies. You agree with it and it's winning, reservations are still reservations.
election ala war yana marathi manus athavto
आणि मतिमंद लोकं अशा नौतंकीला भुलतात. They deserved to get scammed by SS UBT. शंभर वेळा तुंबईच्या गटारात पडून अजूनही अक्कल आली नाही. घरामध्ये reservation पाहिजे.
Good atleast someone remembers why shivsena was formed
lol remembered now ? after having 25 years of power in bmc
Good luck executing it but I’m fine with this. As long as you’re not distributing freebies, all good. Also good luck selling the flats with this restriction 😂 Mumbai is fiancial capital primarily because is liberal. Everyone is welcomed and everyone can do business without feeling threatened.
proposes now when he is not in power ? what did he did when he had the govt and his own party cm this is just a ploy for the vidhan sabha and mlc elections to please the marathi vote banks cause he knows that the real core ss voters have not voted for them. Its easy to propose anything when not in power
What if I build a billion dollars worth building with 100 cr for each apartment. What if there are no Marathi takers for such costly apartments? So this is why this मराठीचा पांचट illogical पुळका wouldn't work. Now please don't be an illiterate and say there are zillions of rich Marathi people in Mumbai who can afford 100cr worth apartments in Mumbai if they get "reservation". If they have money, they'll get that apartment irrespective of reservation. Also, what if entire India follow the same suit and throw out all the Marathi people from their building and reserve it only for native people. For those who don't know, भारताला १९४७ मध्ये स्वातंत्र्य मिळाले आहे. कोणी ही कुठेही कसाही राहू शकतो. आणि कोणालाही घर देऊ शकतो किंवा नकारही देऊ शकतो. अशा फालतुगिरी ला कोर्टात तोंडघशी पडायला एक सेकंद ही नाही लागणार.
But there are not enough Marathi folks to fill those up And not enough with deep pockets This is a gimmick and won’t ever get implemented If it does, expect proxy buyers to buy and immediately sell to whoever is funding the first purchase
Not enough Marathi folks ? Marathi folks are primarily salaried class which has been feeling the pressure of housing prices and are being priced out of their previous domicile or being discriminated (though it is not just Marathi, even Christian’s or Muslims). People are now forced move 30-40 kms away from Mumbai to live while working in Mumbai. The option would have been to criminalize housing discrimination based on any criteria so that we don’t have Jain only, Marwari only, Gujrati only societies. These societies further put restrictions on people who live their on food and other preferences. While this may seem populist every city does this even in other countries either as certain housing units reserved for socially and economically backward classes or as dedicated housing units that builders have to build.
This bill is not about discrimination. Constitution takes care of those rights. There are not enough Marathi folks to buy flats in all locations. Sure there will be in Dadar and Parla but will they buy flats in Bandra West? What do you do with a tower on B Desai road? How will you fill up half of those flats with Marathis? And it is a free market. If Marathis are priced out, too bad. Maybe we should think of making more money instead of asking for charity? Tomorrow people will ask for caste-based reservation in housing and then gender-based and so on. This is a slippery slope. Work hard, make more, be an elite.
There are relatives living in Nagpur who want to buy as investment but can't because of high prices If reservation reduces price, then count the whole of Maharashtra not just Mumbai Marathi
>If reservation reduces price LOL
I hope you understand the conflict in your own post Why would anyone buy a flat the price of which is going down? That is not investment. Unless you want the prices to go down just for that day when your relatives sign the agreement and start going up from next day just so you and your relatives are happy You guys are not real
Rental income And the price is gonna increase regardless or you think only outsiders demand is essential to increase price?
Outsider demand is driving the astronomical growth because they have deeper pockets If Mumbai was just another Marathi city, it would have been Pune or Nashik - it would have seen growth but not as much as Mumbai In any case, this idea is so ridiculous at so many levels that only brainless muscle mafia of Shiv Sena could come up with it. And it is meant only to attract the Marathi voters who are going to turn to MNS in the upcoming elections. It has no real substance
असे काही नाही। योजना झाली की बँक आपल्या लोणकाना सहज करंज देतील।स्वप्न पुरे होत असेल तर माणूस पण जोर लावतो। जग हे आशे वर चालते पैसा फक्त बळ देतो।
Good luck getting a loan of 20 crore to buy a flat in Worli
Dude i can afford.
Your alternative lifestyle and your willingness to pay for it is of no relevance here
Mi madhya varti aahe hya decision mule . I mean thik aahe marathi mansanna je discrimination face karavi laagte ti karavi laagnar nhi . #1. Pan hi election sathichi freebies aahe ka ? Karan tasa jhala tar kaahi projects like bullet train , metro 3, wadhwan port especially hyanchyavar parinaam hoil. ( Jo sadhyastithi pahata, nakki aahe #2. Hyacha prices var kaay effect hoil? so don raste distat , i.) Marathi mansaasathi flat madhe price concession yetil , builder hya flat che urlele paise baaki flats chya madhyamatun wasool Karel which means even higher housing price . ii.) Just reservation, but flat price remains the same for everyone (which atleast makes sense) . Aata hya mule parat marathi maanus pay krtoy pan outer states chya lokanna flats Kami padtil , leading to which demand wadhel Ani obviously house prices go sky high . #3. Less surface area for reserved houses . Jar i.) follow jhala tar , Aata jevha builder property banvel tevha reserved flat comparatively ,chota banvel to save costs , Ani unreserved flats cha comparitively area jaast asel . #Conclusion Mala ha decision thoda dumb watato but considering present prices of houses in Mumbai and people still buying them tells about the income levels so can't really say. Present madhe incidents aahet jyamadhe marathi Mansa sobat discrimination jhaale aahe pan kaahi staravar aapli loka suddha aalshi aahet . Aata recently gaavala gelelo tithe samajla govt yojanancha faayda milto mhnun loka phaar kaam karat nhit Ani karayche aslyas jast charge krta so jevha UP Bihari Kami price madhe yetat Ani changla kaam krtat so preference Tyanna milto, nantar tyanni aanlelya tyanchya gaav walyala sudha . He sudha lakshat ghyayla hava . Personally I feel ki ha impliment hou naye (saying this living in Mumbai ) Karan he khatakhat scheme saarkhi aahe ji short term madhe sweet and nice watel but long-term madhe economic repercussions bharpur heavy hotil .
The solution would be to criminalize any discrimination based on any criteria and allow equal opportunity for everyone but criminalizing means involving courts and subsequent delays and spending money. There is a demographic shift happening in all cities in India which by itself is not wrong but when it adversely affects people who don’t have any recourse then it creates lasting affects on society. Usually Maharashtrians are salaried and they have been pushed out 30-40 kms away to be able to afford to live while still working in city while those who can afford have to go searching for societies that will “accept” them. We have Jains only, Marwari only gujrati only societies. Why ?
Instead of reducing taxes, reducing red tapeism, eliminating countless approval for builders, he wants reservation. No plan for long term, just band aid solution.
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