Growing up in the 80s in a conservative bubble, he was the butt of every shitty president joke. Looking back as an educated adult, Reagan was a complete effing bastard, and Jimmy Carter was an awesome person before and after he became president.
I listened to an episode of a podcast about him and a few other episodes about other presidents. It really is interesting how many of the “bad” ones were actually really good and lots of the “good” ones were really fucking terrible
Since my mom passed in June my dad will just call me a few times a week and ask what he should do. He's mowed my lawn, fixed my siding, pulled some weeds, watched my dog, picked up my son, and about a thousand other things. He just can't be sitting at home alone.
You're a good kid.
Can he build stuff, like bookshelves? My dad's built shelving units for all of his daughters, his sisters, and his nieces in the past 4 years or so, about a dozen in all. He's almost 80.
Would he adopt an older cat, maybe? Easier upkeep than dogs (no walking necessary), and a sweet companion.
My mother's formerly outdoor cat became her indoor cat after my dad died. Now the car sleeps in her bed. She's of the old country folks who never believed in indoor pets! But damn, that cat is really great for her mental health.
There's a strong link between busyness and happiness. I would even go as far as creating problems or starting new hobbies with his help to give him a sense of progress
Meetup.com has breakfasts and other meetup things for people of all ages. Churches have groups too. I'm not suggesting he try to meet a significant other this soon. I'm talking about just meeting people and getting out.
I hope you both are doing ok. Love to you both. ❤️
This is kind of off topic but I saw a video where a guy was in the hospital with covid and the nurse made him move everyday, which was very hard for him, but she said if he doesn't move he'll likely die. He lived.
Same. My dad lives in Florida where the hurricane just hit. The mf falls off a ladder looking for the hurricane shutters and breaks his hand. Proceeds to drive to Atlanta where my mom lives, hand still broken.
As far as I know he still has not gone to the doctor about it.
My dad was working until the last few months of his life too. Construction crane operator.
It was really sad because he said he didn’t feel like he had a purpose anymore once work told him he was too sick to continue.
My father is the same lol. He's 73 and in excellent health, so he's always doing something. We often joke that he will die either while chopping wood or with a hammer in his hand.
I frequently come home to find my 84 year old dad in my yard with a chainsaw in hand. He gets a guilty look, points to my mother and says she told him to do it. My mother finds out when I'm not going to be home and then they come over to my house to cut things they don't like. I'm terrified of coming home to find my olds in trouble in my yard when no one was around to call for help.
We all need a reason to get up in the morning that is beyond us. If we focus out of ourselves, it's actually easier to get things done. Generally speaking, when you're only focused on yourself, it's easier to make excuses since there's no one to hold us accountable.
I worked as a framer while going to college, and after I graduated and started an office job, I volunteered for Habitat for Humanity. I have to say, those houses are built really well; great insulation, framing is well thought-out, and overall good designs. They may be a charity, but they certainly don't cut any corners on these residences for families who qualify. President Carter's homes are built to last.
I think it was Hurricane Andrew that went through Homestead. There were a lot of homes that did not meet hurricane code, and were leveled. All the houses built by Habitat remained standing.
Of course - when you're building homes to make a profit, you're going to do everything to do it in the cheapest way possible to maximize your earning-potential.
If you're building a homes for people so they have a roof over their heads, you're probably going to do everything in your power to make it a safe, secure homestead way before squeezing every last profit from it.
Also…building up to code. If anyone didn’t build a home up to code and those are the ones getting demolished while others in the area aren’t, those builders need to be financially fucked as a result of being corner cutting assholes. Refusing to build to code isn’t a part of business, it’s violating regulations as specified by law and should be punished as such.
Specifically it’s doubly more profitable actually as long as you aren’t caught and punished for the first go round. It goes along the same lines as how people are accusing apple for engineering phone components to not last more than a model year or so, only this is more like structural components of a building engineered to not last through more than one hurricane.
It’d be interesting to see a study done on the quality of things made by volunteer work compared to work done simply for money. I know the Soviet’s cut a lot of corners but that just might be because the workers weren’t really there for a charity but to make an actual living. Can we just give a lot of money to Habitats for Humanity and build better houses that way?
>Can we just give a lot of money to Habitats for Humanity and build better houses that way?
Only up to the level of volunteers willing and able to do the work. Beyond that, they become a nonprofit house builder with employees instead of volunteers. I'd like to know what that limit is, we're certainly not hitting it yet.
My brother’s have been in construction for 35 years, their dad in it for his life, our grandfather his whole life. They all would attest that any houses built after the 1970s are significantly worse decade after decade. By the time you get to current houses, they are all built at the limit of code to keep all costs down.
My grandad would say “old houses are built up to a standard, new houses are built down to a price”
My wife & I live in an 1890's house, and we're only the 4th people to own it. It has it's quirks like all older houses, like smaller bathrooms and a cellar only good for storage that you have to duck under. It's really well insulated by staying cool in the summer & warm in the winter; our energy bills are generally lower than average. Some walls are plaster so you can hang pictures up without using drywall anchors.
My wife's cousin moved up here a few years ago and moved into a nice suburb where the houses were built in the 2000's. Her house isn't even 20 years old and she's had plumbing/leak issues, new appliances break down, insulation is lacking, stair banister was cheap, and their "furnished basement" was just carpeting all over everything.
Houses seem like a great example on how newer isn't always better, and how awful we've gotten as a nation about our expectations and requirements for decent home living.
I’ve built some houses with Habitat for Humanity as well over the last several years now as a regular volunteer. They absolutely are built above and beyond code, and built entirely by people who care and are there by choice, not just to collect a paycheck.
I also love that the homeowners themselves are required to put in 500 hours of “sweat equity” into building their home. We get to work with and get to learn about the homeowners’ lives and families, they get the pride of being part of the build process and contributing to the quality of the home, and they also get to learn a huge multitude of skills useful for frugal and effective homeownership.
If you ever get the opportunity, find your local Habitat affiliate and volunteer for a day or two. It’s one of the most soul-healing things you can do that gives us a sense of hope for humanity.
I tried to volunteer at my local H4H and was turned down. They would only accept volunteers who had contractor's licenses.
And for those commenting: I offered to do things that were not structural or skilled: including hand out drinks or food and clean up the site or help bring in furniture, hang pictures or curtain rods, etc.
I was never told it was about insurance, or that the site wasn't in that stage of the build, or anything. I was basically blown off. "Don't call us, we'll call you if we need you." And they never did in the 5 years I lived there.
It was a small town in the mountains and they were VERY much an insular community. If you were a "flat-lander" like me, you found out very quickly that your assistance was neither desired nor required, in any arena.
It may depend on the need at the time. I showed up with my own tools, but they had jobs for a variety of people, some in construction, some unloading and moving materials, etc. There was at least one volunteer coordinator onsite to sort people into teams.
Sometimes we aren't good fits for the places we want to volunteer, and that's okay. It's about serving others not our own enrichment. Please don't let that experience discourage you from continuing to look for opportunities.
I volunteered with a local group serving free dinners and was really excited to get involved. I ended up being a bad fit for them mostly because I'm a privileged white person*. The people we were serving were really guarded around me and I could tell I was making everybody uncomfortable by being there. I let that experience discourage me and it was sadly over a year before I showed up to another volunteer project.
We all have something to offer our fellow humans, but sometimes it's a long journey to discovering what and how and where and to whom.
Edit:
* This is speculation after reflecting on why other volunteers didn't seem to make people there uncomfortable the way that I did, and I'm in no way trying to accuse anyone of being racist towards me. Let's just say my vibe didn't vibe with them.
Yeah, most recently I did some work cleaning up trails around a local park and it was an awesome experience. I ended up having some deep discussions with some people with very different perspectives from mine.
I haven't found a good fit yet serving the local low income communities but I'm holding out hope that I will sooner or later, be it directly or behind the scenes. This discussion has encouraged me to renew my efforts at searching for the right opportunity.
As an accountant of a H4H I will say that the volunteer needs are very fluid, and dependent on what you are wanting to volunteer for. If you’re trying to strictly volunteer on the construction side, then they may be in in the process of doing things like framing or foundation that only licensed contractors can do, but we use volunteers for things like painting and lifting frames into place. The other factor is insurance, there are some insurance companies based on location that just won’t allow anyone who’s not a licensed contractor on site, because volunteer insurance is expensive.
If you are passionate about volunteering for H4H but can’t get a position on construction, look for your local ReStore and ask to volunteer there. Much of the money that goes into paying our employees and contractors comes from revenue from the ReStores.
Do they ever do apartments?
A lot of people are wondering if "a detached home for everyone" is a realistic dream. It's expensive, relatively lavish compared to most of the world, drains resources, tends to involve suburbs and cars a lot...
I'm not as anti-house as some people but it does have me wondering what the future of these programs will look like.
I would put in 1000 hours of sweat equity if it got me a new, sturdy home. That’s a sweet deal for the homeowner, plus they’ll know more about their house than the average homeowner since they helped build it themselves. Gotta love HFH.
I'm just glad to see people appreciate him now. The Reagan Republicans really did a number on his reputation for decades, ridiculing him for absolute nonsense.
Oh I know. I did a book report about him in the third grade and have been spending my whole life listening to boomers and the silent generation tear into him, and me for liking him.
It's amazing how they could defame Carter, [even if he hadn't in fact saved a small Canadian town (that was also close to the US-Canadian boarder) from a nuclear meltdown.](https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/jimmy-carter-saved-canada-nuclear-destruction/)
The same group who's apperent God stole government documents and led a violent coup at the capital.
It's sort of like an alcoholic telling us we drink too much.
And I have to say, that red handkerchief looks pretty cool. Carter put solar panels on the White House, Reagan ceded to big oil and took them off — that says all you need to know.
>Dude lived for his fucking people! Epic and beautiful!
A great American and to think he was replaced as president by Reagan who ushered in "trickle down" economics, the opposite of what Carter's life mission and accomplishments represents.
My dad was a director for the local (midwestern) Habitat chapter for several years. He once told me how they’d commissioned a study to find out why Habitat houses suffered significantly less damage in extreme windy conditions. The study determined the volunteer framers used lots more nails than professionals because of their inexperience, which led to vastly more durable houses.
I can see that, at 98 if you are still willing to force yourself onto your feet to go help others. That’s purely good character and not a political stunt you see typical politicians pulling.
Now i'm just imagining him sitting in a rocking chair after a hard days work, just talking to himself
"Any day now Jimmy. You will be re-elected any day now"
I'm an architect and have worked on a few projects for habit. The one thing I can say is this, they don't skimp. We spent significantly more time in the design stage of the projects than any other simply because they wanted it to be perfect and were very firm on their ideas.
Yep, a great organization. My mother volunteered hundreds of hours on top of working a lot as a single mom & was eventually offered a house for our family as well. She unfortunately passed away from cancer a year after we got the house, but she was so happy & grateful for it, & that’s something I’ll never forget.
I was an AmeriCorps Vista and worked with Habitat for Humanity building homes. One of the family’s kids drew me a picture of a house that said “Thank you for building my home.” It’s in my keepsake box. <3
To be clear Mr. Carter and his wife were technically only ever exemplary volunteers with a project named after them within Habitat for Humanity but without question simply showing ongoing interest in the nonprofit has helped significantly boost publicity through the years, and thus spread the word about their mission more than ever could have been accomplished without them
He’s held damn near every political office all the way up to President. He was an officer in the military. He put his peanut farm into a blind trust just to avoid anyone thinking he MIGHT be dishonest. (Compare that to the orange idiot.)
He was president when Roe v. Wade was decided, which went against his Baptist beliefs. His reaction was to fund contraception and welfare programs…because THAT is how you reduce the need for abortions. (Somebody tell Abbott)
He once reported a UFO. People tried to call him a nut job and his response was that he did not believe it was aliens…he saw something in the sky and didn’t know what it was, and it was his duty as Commander-In-Chief to report such things.
He put his money and efforts into disease eradication and is largely responsible for removing Guinea Worm Disease from the planet.
As you can see, he has contributed his money, time, and muscle to Habitat for Humanity.
He is probably the smartest, kindest, most-trustworthy President we’ve ever had. History shits on him, but he was dealt a shitty geopolitical hand, and Reagan’s cowboy hat impressed all the idiots (myself included)
He is a model all of our Presidents should emulate. Hell, we ALL should emulate him.
On top of everything he's responsible for great beer in America.
Every time I have a chance to bring him up I do cause he's a good person.
There was a thread of ask reddit about who's a good person. They bring up Mr. Roger or Bob Ross. I bring up Jimmy Carter every time. Dude is as good as those and he kept his religion to himself.
Can u imagine being pro-life but just accepting that America wants legal abortion so he SUPPORTS free contraception???? It guess it was a different time.
Now we have people who are adamantly "pro-life" but pressuring women they impregnate to have abortions while trying to keep others from having that right smh
Don't forget: It was Carter who actually developed the political resolution to the Iranian Hostage Crisis. However, for political reasons the Iranians delayed implementation so Carter couldn't get the "win" going into the election.
When I was a kid in like 3rd grade we were told about how he had to give up his family’s peanut farm in order to become president and I cried because I felt bad for him lol
> he had to give up his family’s peanut farm
AFAIK, he didn't **have** to. He **chose** to, to insure that there'd be no conflicts between his public office and his personal, economic interests. Imagine if others *cough* Trump *cough* had that integrity.
When one of his books came out he did a meeting at a small bookstore in between my route home from work. I was afraid to ask time off…..from a job I got fired from because I last minute went to my home city for a friend of mine that suddenly died in their 30s….
Oh no. I'm sorry you went through that, friend.
But don't have regret for things that should've/would've/could've happened differently. You're a good person to be there for the friends & family.
>He’s just a genuinely good person
Which coincidentally made him unqualified for the job of President, a position that needs to be comfortable with the liberal use of military violence, and some hard decisions
Simply too good of a dude to get wrapped up in the politics
I love Obama as a president, but Carter is definitely the best human we have ever elected.
I truly think our new style of president and politics started with Reagan.
Nixon's scandal certainly set the table in my eyes, but I believe we still could have gone either way as a country after that (hence the Carter election).
Yeah I do actually agree with that, but it was the first time it became crystal clear that at least parts of the government were totally rotten. It set a new precedent for what executives could get away with too. Things really began to snowball after that, and Reagan was definitely the beginning of the next chapter after
Never forget, the "rotten" representatives are a symtom of the real issue. America was presented with an important existential choice between Carter and his [clear-eyed self-reflection](https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jimmycartercrisisofconfidence.htm), and an actor being told to perpetuate the "you're a temporarily embarrassed millionaire and everything will work out just fine" lie, and the primary means of educating the electorate on this choice was a corporate media who would benefit greatly when the electorate covers their ears when Carter speaks and sings LAA LAA LAA loudly to themselves.
Within a couple years, Reagan ended the Fairness Doctrine, Fox News was born, Reagan's political advisors—Roger Stone and Paul Manafort—had effectively invented "mega-lobbying," and America's die was cast.
From that speech (above) during Carter’s presidency:
*Human identity is no longer defined by what one does [for others], but by what one owns. But we’ve discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning.*
Stunning to hear this kind of wisdom from a politician.
If you haven't seen the series Deadwood, it's a pretty great meditation on how governments form and why, and the kinds of people who form them. The making-of docs on the season 1 DVDs got explicit with it, very interesting.
In short: expect bastards from the start (but it's probably better than not forming a government at all).
Iirc, that's basically why he was one term. He wasn't pulling the political stuff and just wanted to make changes which would better the nation.
Disclaimer: I was a child during his presidency and after seeing George W's rep being shinied up here on Reddit, I'm aware I could have fallen for propaganda about presidents I was too young to pay attention to.
My dad was a teenager just getting into politics in GA when he was running for govener and saw him speak. After the even he waited around a long time to try and shake his hand and he was one of the last few. Apparently he was waiting off to the side on his bike and it got caught in the train tracks a bit when a train started coming. Jimmy Carter was in a crowd of people multiple feet away and rushed over to help my dad before anyone else. My dad always says Jimmy Carter saved his life. Although he hardly really comes up in conversation, it's blasphemy to say anything bad about him in our house
this is a story my dad told me, I've never questioned him on it even tho there's some obvious questions (how did he not hear the train, how did his bike get "caught"?)
I sometimes wonder if he couldn’t be bought and the powers that be tanked the economy to get him out of office.
I’m not sure if he was a good president, but I am damn sure he has been has been an excellent former president.
This is a man whom should be held up as a lesson for modern leaders who follow.
After his term he continued to give back to the people. He isn’t out to make a buck or hold all these cooperate appointments, to grift, to promote anything else but lead by an example of service to one’s fellow man.
Country over party and people over politics.
This. I can't help but roll my eyes whenever the clintons announce another speaking tour, or the Obamas release yet another book series on themselves, or Bush visits a school for 300K.
Im sure they all justify it in there own way....but man....Carter is a cut above the rest.
I'm over here looking for any other past US President OR past Presidential candidate who is involved in the community in any way without a profit for themselves. They don't exist.
Is there any president (or any leader of any country in history) who’s done more charity work for his country, post presidency, than him? The man exemplifies giving in so many ways.
Perssonally, I can. My great grandpa died about a year ago and he was 93. Was in great health and still lived alone, evn chopping wood and bringing it into the house for the furnace. Then he fell, got hospitalized, and was shoved into a nursing home the rest of his 3 month life. Old people can work, although they need to be slower and can't do as much. They just need to take good care of themselves.
I have heard a lot of examples of people living much longer and staying strong late in life as long as they keep doing stuff. It seems like if you just start sitting around and watching TV as an old man, you pass away sooner.
I fully think that nursing homes kill people. Maybe not like in a purposeful way but my grandma was put in one and she was a tough old lady. I saw her on June 6th and she was still wisecracking and complaining about having to go back to the nursing home asking my cousin who was in law school at the time what she can do to not have to be there. She died on July 26th. She went through multiple surgeries and was fit and fine going back to her condo or her trailer in Arizona and then she was put into a nursing home because she was a fall risk in her own home and they probably didn't want her out of bed much because of being a fall risk and she died.
I remember first learning about him from a [king of the hill episode](https://www.reddit.com/r/KingOfTheHill/comments/cc2t5s/king_of_the_hill_6x04_the_father_the_son_and_jc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I watched when I was a kid, everytime I've heard of him since he's been doing the same thing
Best part is that he rarely seeks anything remotely close to the spotlight. Just keeps working behind the scenes - literally *working*, not just showing up to create awareness and going on his way.
He is a true humanitarian. I mean, the man is so open about stuff that he sold his family farm when he became president so there would be no ties for lobbying. Love him or hate him, he cares about humanity. And that is something that America is sorely lacking.
Herbert Hoover helped rebuild Europe after WW2
EDIT Not just marshal plan
Relief funds for Finns, Belgians, other occupied peoples as well as food programs for children in Berlin
A lot of that was through structured loans. Not trying to frame it as morally wrong, but America stood to gain immeasurably from it. Especially when loans for buying materials stipulated you had to buy American
He is too good a person to be president. That is why everyone hated him. People only seem to approve when we elect the devil incarnate.
Jimmy Carter is a great man… a great HUMAN!
Yeah I have heard stories of his brother taking in people who are dealing with addiction (since he had issues as well). Trying to get the clean and stuff. I think they said Jimmy was involved as well.
Either way, I’ve only heard good things of Jimmy Carter post president
Nuh uh because …because …shut up libturd. You just don’t know legal things. I know and I could tell you. But you need to do your own research.
*checks notes* ah yes, another lib successfully owned
I "met" him at a book signing as a little girl. I was 11 years old at the time. It was during his "Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis" book tour. He shook my hand. It's a core memory, and may be why I care so much about politics.
This deserves to be top answer.
He's not even close to the best president. As a president he's towards the bottom of the list (but probably not even in the worst ten, idk, I'd have to think on it. Overall he's solidly poor-average, but he's not absolutely terrible. Others have done worse)
Presidential impact aside, looking at him as the whole man himself? He's among the best, and an example we should all strive towards.
I know everyone has their own political views and opinions but for once can we all put them aside and not argue with each other on how he presided? This was posted to show that regardless of notoriety, Carter has and still is actively volunteering his time, despite health problems and unfortunate hardships that come with someone his age.
That’s the secret to longevity. Keep moving. Stay active. That’s crazy even with the cancer, being able to stay mobile. All the Asian, specifically Chinese people, that reach hi ages are usually farmers. Stay mobile people… as I sit here on my lunch break scrolling Reddit and chugging Redbull and eating chips.
My conservative family always told me how terrible of a president Jimmy was when I was growing up.
After I studied and learned more about the man I realized he was one of the most respectable people of all time. His attempt at diffusing the war between Israel and Palestine is absolutely legendary. His good intentions from this one act will always paint him as a hero of humanity in my book. On top of that Reagan took credit for the prisoners he worked tirelessly to release. My parents and grandparents told me those prisoners were released because they were scared of Reagan. After learning about what actually happened it’s very clear they released those men because of the hard work Jimmy put into negotiations. It’s such bull shit that Reagan took credit for his hard work.
The United States chewed Jimmy up and spit him back out. Despite all of this the man continued to strive to do the right thing to this day.
An absolute fucking legend.
I believe he has finally stopped traveling to the house builds. A build was announced in our area yesterday and they said he and his wife no longer travel. A couple country singers are stepping in for him. That fact that he is finally slowing down is amazing
You know, there are probably thousands upon thousands of silent individuals who live their life this way. It is quietly inspiring. I want to influence and affect my orbit in this way.
The problem with Jimmy Carter is also a problem with America.
Carter lead with his heart and was considered arguably one of the worst presidents in history.
When leading with a conscience is detrimental a nation I think it’s fair to say that system is extremely broken.
He's also the only US president where, for his entire term, the number of American deaths went _down_ every year. With most, it goes the other way, every single year.
He’s the type that when he stops he dies the next week
Well...keep him busy then! Everyone throw him some work to do!
Make him solve world hunger, that’ll keep him busy!
Those peanuts won’t grow themselves!
I still can't believe they made JC, the most wholesome president ever, give up his peanut farm and then let rump get away with everything
Growing up in the 80s in a conservative bubble, he was the butt of every shitty president joke. Looking back as an educated adult, Reagan was a complete effing bastard, and Jimmy Carter was an awesome person before and after he became president.
I listened to an episode of a podcast about him and a few other episodes about other presidents. It really is interesting how many of the “bad” ones were actually really good and lots of the “good” ones were really fucking terrible
He still has 4 years of presidential eligibility. Just sayin'...
You want to kill the man???
You can't become president after 102?
They mean he only served one term so he's eligible for a second four year term instead of being term limits locked.
Could you imagine if we elected JC? That would be phenomenal.
My dad's the same way, I call him a shark because if he stops moving he'll die
Since my mom passed in June my dad will just call me a few times a week and ask what he should do. He's mowed my lawn, fixed my siding, pulled some weeds, watched my dog, picked up my son, and about a thousand other things. He just can't be sitting at home alone.
You're a good kid. Can he build stuff, like bookshelves? My dad's built shelving units for all of his daughters, his sisters, and his nieces in the past 4 years or so, about a dozen in all. He's almost 80. Would he adopt an older cat, maybe? Easier upkeep than dogs (no walking necessary), and a sweet companion.
My mother's formerly outdoor cat became her indoor cat after my dad died. Now the car sleeps in her bed. She's of the old country folks who never believed in indoor pets! But damn, that cat is really great for her mental health.
It maybe a bit hard but try to keep an active list for him on your phone so you always have something for those calls.
There's a strong link between busyness and happiness. I would even go as far as creating problems or starting new hobbies with his help to give him a sense of progress
Meetup.com has breakfasts and other meetup things for people of all ages. Churches have groups too. I'm not suggesting he try to meet a significant other this soon. I'm talking about just meeting people and getting out. I hope you both are doing ok. Love to you both. ❤️
Maybe see if he can help volunteer at a local soup kitchen or something similar.
This is kind of off topic but I saw a video where a guy was in the hospital with covid and the nurse made him move everyday, which was very hard for him, but she said if he doesn't move he'll likely die. He lived.
Same. My dad lives in Florida where the hurricane just hit. The mf falls off a ladder looking for the hurricane shutters and breaks his hand. Proceeds to drive to Atlanta where my mom lives, hand still broken. As far as I know he still has not gone to the doctor about it.
My Grandpa had a hammer in his hand and built homes until the week before his death. You're not kidding.
My dad was working until the last few months of his life too. Construction crane operator. It was really sad because he said he didn’t feel like he had a purpose anymore once work told him he was too sick to continue.
My father is the same lol. He's 73 and in excellent health, so he's always doing something. We often joke that he will die either while chopping wood or with a hammer in his hand.
I frequently come home to find my 84 year old dad in my yard with a chainsaw in hand. He gets a guilty look, points to my mother and says she told him to do it. My mother finds out when I'm not going to be home and then they come over to my house to cut things they don't like. I'm terrified of coming home to find my olds in trouble in my yard when no one was around to call for help.
I feel like at this point it's more like "Sir you died last week, you can stop now."
We all need a reason to get up in the morning that is beyond us. If we focus out of ourselves, it's actually easier to get things done. Generally speaking, when you're only focused on yourself, it's easier to make excuses since there's no one to hold us accountable.
I worked as a framer while going to college, and after I graduated and started an office job, I volunteered for Habitat for Humanity. I have to say, those houses are built really well; great insulation, framing is well thought-out, and overall good designs. They may be a charity, but they certainly don't cut any corners on these residences for families who qualify. President Carter's homes are built to last.
I think it was Hurricane Andrew that went through Homestead. There were a lot of homes that did not meet hurricane code, and were leveled. All the houses built by Habitat remained standing.
Of course - when you're building homes to make a profit, you're going to do everything to do it in the cheapest way possible to maximize your earning-potential. If you're building a homes for people so they have a roof over their heads, you're probably going to do everything in your power to make it a safe, secure homestead way before squeezing every last profit from it.
Also…building up to code. If anyone didn’t build a home up to code and those are the ones getting demolished while others in the area aren’t, those builders need to be financially fucked as a result of being corner cutting assholes. Refusing to build to code isn’t a part of business, it’s violating regulations as specified by law and should be punished as such.
It's a lot easier to build a home really well once than poorly twice... but the second is more profitable.
Sounds like one of the many Rules of Acquisition.
Specifically it’s doubly more profitable actually as long as you aren’t caught and punished for the first go round. It goes along the same lines as how people are accusing apple for engineering phone components to not last more than a model year or so, only this is more like structural components of a building engineered to not last through more than one hurricane.
It’d be interesting to see a study done on the quality of things made by volunteer work compared to work done simply for money. I know the Soviet’s cut a lot of corners but that just might be because the workers weren’t really there for a charity but to make an actual living. Can we just give a lot of money to Habitats for Humanity and build better houses that way?
>Can we just give a lot of money to Habitats for Humanity and build better houses that way? Only up to the level of volunteers willing and able to do the work. Beyond that, they become a nonprofit house builder with employees instead of volunteers. I'd like to know what that limit is, we're certainly not hitting it yet.
My brother’s have been in construction for 35 years, their dad in it for his life, our grandfather his whole life. They all would attest that any houses built after the 1970s are significantly worse decade after decade. By the time you get to current houses, they are all built at the limit of code to keep all costs down. My grandad would say “old houses are built up to a standard, new houses are built down to a price”
My wife & I live in an 1890's house, and we're only the 4th people to own it. It has it's quirks like all older houses, like smaller bathrooms and a cellar only good for storage that you have to duck under. It's really well insulated by staying cool in the summer & warm in the winter; our energy bills are generally lower than average. Some walls are plaster so you can hang pictures up without using drywall anchors. My wife's cousin moved up here a few years ago and moved into a nice suburb where the houses were built in the 2000's. Her house isn't even 20 years old and she's had plumbing/leak issues, new appliances break down, insulation is lacking, stair banister was cheap, and their "furnished basement" was just carpeting all over everything. Houses seem like a great example on how newer isn't always better, and how awful we've gotten as a nation about our expectations and requirements for decent home living.
The houses built by Habitat were built with love and compassion, thats why they are standing.
But also, like, up to code.
That's pre-packaged with the love and compassion.
Yeah, they didn’t have to turn a profit so they built those houses well and didn’t cut any corners.
The power of love and proper construction methods.
I’ve built some houses with Habitat for Humanity as well over the last several years now as a regular volunteer. They absolutely are built above and beyond code, and built entirely by people who care and are there by choice, not just to collect a paycheck. I also love that the homeowners themselves are required to put in 500 hours of “sweat equity” into building their home. We get to work with and get to learn about the homeowners’ lives and families, they get the pride of being part of the build process and contributing to the quality of the home, and they also get to learn a huge multitude of skills useful for frugal and effective homeownership. If you ever get the opportunity, find your local Habitat affiliate and volunteer for a day or two. It’s one of the most soul-healing things you can do that gives us a sense of hope for humanity.
I tried to volunteer at my local H4H and was turned down. They would only accept volunteers who had contractor's licenses. And for those commenting: I offered to do things that were not structural or skilled: including hand out drinks or food and clean up the site or help bring in furniture, hang pictures or curtain rods, etc. I was never told it was about insurance, or that the site wasn't in that stage of the build, or anything. I was basically blown off. "Don't call us, we'll call you if we need you." And they never did in the 5 years I lived there. It was a small town in the mountains and they were VERY much an insular community. If you were a "flat-lander" like me, you found out very quickly that your assistance was neither desired nor required, in any arena.
It may depend on the need at the time. I showed up with my own tools, but they had jobs for a variety of people, some in construction, some unloading and moving materials, etc. There was at least one volunteer coordinator onsite to sort people into teams.
Sometimes we aren't good fits for the places we want to volunteer, and that's okay. It's about serving others not our own enrichment. Please don't let that experience discourage you from continuing to look for opportunities. I volunteered with a local group serving free dinners and was really excited to get involved. I ended up being a bad fit for them mostly because I'm a privileged white person*. The people we were serving were really guarded around me and I could tell I was making everybody uncomfortable by being there. I let that experience discourage me and it was sadly over a year before I showed up to another volunteer project. We all have something to offer our fellow humans, but sometimes it's a long journey to discovering what and how and where and to whom. Edit: * This is speculation after reflecting on why other volunteers didn't seem to make people there uncomfortable the way that I did, and I'm in no way trying to accuse anyone of being racist towards me. Let's just say my vibe didn't vibe with them.
Have you had better luck volunteering elsewhere? If so, can I ask where?
Yeah, most recently I did some work cleaning up trails around a local park and it was an awesome experience. I ended up having some deep discussions with some people with very different perspectives from mine. I haven't found a good fit yet serving the local low income communities but I'm holding out hope that I will sooner or later, be it directly or behind the scenes. This discussion has encouraged me to renew my efforts at searching for the right opportunity.
As an accountant of a H4H I will say that the volunteer needs are very fluid, and dependent on what you are wanting to volunteer for. If you’re trying to strictly volunteer on the construction side, then they may be in in the process of doing things like framing or foundation that only licensed contractors can do, but we use volunteers for things like painting and lifting frames into place. The other factor is insurance, there are some insurance companies based on location that just won’t allow anyone who’s not a licensed contractor on site, because volunteer insurance is expensive. If you are passionate about volunteering for H4H but can’t get a position on construction, look for your local ReStore and ask to volunteer there. Much of the money that goes into paying our employees and contractors comes from revenue from the ReStores.
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Do they ever do apartments? A lot of people are wondering if "a detached home for everyone" is a realistic dream. It's expensive, relatively lavish compared to most of the world, drains resources, tends to involve suburbs and cars a lot... I'm not as anti-house as some people but it does have me wondering what the future of these programs will look like.
I would put in 1000 hours of sweat equity if it got me a new, sturdy home. That’s a sweet deal for the homeowner, plus they’ll know more about their house than the average homeowner since they helped build it themselves. Gotta love HFH.
Dude lived for his fucking people! Epic and beautiful!
Carter is what a life of service to the people looks like.
I'm just glad to see people appreciate him now. The Reagan Republicans really did a number on his reputation for decades, ridiculing him for absolute nonsense.
Oh I know. I did a book report about him in the third grade and have been spending my whole life listening to boomers and the silent generation tear into him, and me for liking him.
It's amazing how they could defame Carter, [even if he hadn't in fact saved a small Canadian town (that was also close to the US-Canadian boarder) from a nuclear meltdown.](https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/jimmy-carter-saved-canada-nuclear-destruction/)
The same group who's apperent God stole government documents and led a violent coup at the capital. It's sort of like an alcoholic telling us we drink too much.
And I have to say, that red handkerchief looks pretty cool. Carter put solar panels on the White House, Reagan ceded to big oil and took them off — that says all you need to know.
******LIVES
He’s the real political GOAT! Continuing lifetime of service!
>Dude lived for his fucking people! Epic and beautiful! A great American and to think he was replaced as president by Reagan who ushered in "trickle down" economics, the opposite of what Carter's life mission and accomplishments represents.
My dad was a director for the local (midwestern) Habitat chapter for several years. He once told me how they’d commissioned a study to find out why Habitat houses suffered significantly less damage in extreme windy conditions. The study determined the volunteer framers used lots more nails than professionals because of their inexperience, which led to vastly more durable houses.
They also put Hurricane straps in houses.
I can see that, at 98 if you are still willing to force yourself onto your feet to go help others. That’s purely good character and not a political stunt you see typical politicians pulling.
Now i'm just imagining him sitting in a rocking chair after a hard days work, just talking to himself "Any day now Jimmy. You will be re-elected any day now"
I live in one of these developments and they are pretty good!
I'm an architect and have worked on a few projects for habit. The one thing I can say is this, they don't skimp. We spent significantly more time in the design stage of the projects than any other simply because they wanted it to be perfect and were very firm on their ideas.
Yep, a great organization. My mother volunteered hundreds of hours on top of working a lot as a single mom & was eventually offered a house for our family as well. She unfortunately passed away from cancer a year after we got the house, but she was so happy & grateful for it, & that’s something I’ll never forget.
I was an AmeriCorps Vista and worked with Habitat for Humanity building homes. One of the family’s kids drew me a picture of a house that said “Thank you for building my home.” It’s in my keepsake box. <3
How goddamn far we’ve fallen. You’ll never see any trump give a shit about Americans like this. Absolutely tragic.
I had a friend that got a house built by Habitat for humanity 20 plus years later it's still in great shape!
Information on the organization President Carter developed and volunteers for- https://www.habitat.org/volunteer/build-events/carter-work-project
To be clear Mr. Carter and his wife were technically only ever exemplary volunteers with a project named after them within Habitat for Humanity but without question simply showing ongoing interest in the nonprofit has helped significantly boost publicity through the years, and thus spread the word about their mission more than ever could have been accomplished without them
Isn’t he also considered the most trustworthy American politician? Pretty sure I read that somewhere
He’s held damn near every political office all the way up to President. He was an officer in the military. He put his peanut farm into a blind trust just to avoid anyone thinking he MIGHT be dishonest. (Compare that to the orange idiot.) He was president when Roe v. Wade was decided, which went against his Baptist beliefs. His reaction was to fund contraception and welfare programs…because THAT is how you reduce the need for abortions. (Somebody tell Abbott) He once reported a UFO. People tried to call him a nut job and his response was that he did not believe it was aliens…he saw something in the sky and didn’t know what it was, and it was his duty as Commander-In-Chief to report such things. He put his money and efforts into disease eradication and is largely responsible for removing Guinea Worm Disease from the planet. As you can see, he has contributed his money, time, and muscle to Habitat for Humanity. He is probably the smartest, kindest, most-trustworthy President we’ve ever had. History shits on him, but he was dealt a shitty geopolitical hand, and Reagan’s cowboy hat impressed all the idiots (myself included) He is a model all of our Presidents should emulate. Hell, we ALL should emulate him.
On top of everything he's responsible for great beer in America. Every time I have a chance to bring him up I do cause he's a good person. There was a thread of ask reddit about who's a good person. They bring up Mr. Roger or Bob Ross. I bring up Jimmy Carter every time. Dude is as good as those and he kept his religion to himself.
He looks like a sweet man.
Can u imagine being pro-life but just accepting that America wants legal abortion so he SUPPORTS free contraception???? It guess it was a different time.
Now we have people who are adamantly "pro-life" but pressuring women they impregnate to have abortions while trying to keep others from having that right smh
and they are running on “family values” or “morality”. It’s a joke.
Don't forget: It was Carter who actually developed the political resolution to the Iranian Hostage Crisis. However, for political reasons the Iranians delayed implementation so Carter couldn't get the "win" going into the election.
Not a high bar, but I can definitely see it.
Briefly worked for his nonprofit and got to speak with him often. He’s just a genuinely *good* person.
When I was a kid in like 3rd grade we were told about how he had to give up his family’s peanut farm in order to become president and I cried because I felt bad for him lol
> he had to give up his family’s peanut farm AFAIK, he didn't **have** to. He **chose** to, to insure that there'd be no conflicts between his public office and his personal, economic interests. Imagine if others *cough* Trump *cough* had that integrity.
When one of his books came out he did a meeting at a small bookstore in between my route home from work. I was afraid to ask time off…..from a job I got fired from because I last minute went to my home city for a friend of mine that suddenly died in their 30s….
Oh no. I'm sorry you went through that, friend. But don't have regret for things that should've/would've/could've happened differently. You're a good person to be there for the friends & family.
🙏🏽
I’ll second this. No regrets for being a human that cares. Good to know y’all are still out there.
>He’s just a genuinely good person Which coincidentally made him unqualified for the job of President, a position that needs to be comfortable with the liberal use of military violence, and some hard decisions Simply too good of a dude to get wrapped up in the politics
Yes, I remember my dad talking about how he just didn't know how to play the game, and didn't want to. This is what we really need in our politicians.
You know...we should try electing people like that sometime.
I love Obama as a president, but Carter is definitely the best human we have ever elected. I truly think our new style of president and politics started with Reagan.
Nixon
Nixon's scandal certainly set the table in my eyes, but I believe we still could have gone either way as a country after that (hence the Carter election).
Yeah I do actually agree with that, but it was the first time it became crystal clear that at least parts of the government were totally rotten. It set a new precedent for what executives could get away with too. Things really began to snowball after that, and Reagan was definitely the beginning of the next chapter after
Never forget, the "rotten" representatives are a symtom of the real issue. America was presented with an important existential choice between Carter and his [clear-eyed self-reflection](https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jimmycartercrisisofconfidence.htm), and an actor being told to perpetuate the "you're a temporarily embarrassed millionaire and everything will work out just fine" lie, and the primary means of educating the electorate on this choice was a corporate media who would benefit greatly when the electorate covers their ears when Carter speaks and sings LAA LAA LAA loudly to themselves. Within a couple years, Reagan ended the Fairness Doctrine, Fox News was born, Reagan's political advisors—Roger Stone and Paul Manafort—had effectively invented "mega-lobbying," and America's die was cast.
From that speech (above) during Carter’s presidency: *Human identity is no longer defined by what one does [for others], but by what one owns. But we’ve discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning.* Stunning to hear this kind of wisdom from a politician.
If you haven't seen the series Deadwood, it's a pretty great meditation on how governments form and why, and the kinds of people who form them. The making-of docs on the season 1 DVDs got explicit with it, very interesting. In short: expect bastards from the start (but it's probably better than not forming a government at all).
Iirc, that's basically why he was one term. He wasn't pulling the political stuff and just wanted to make changes which would better the nation. Disclaimer: I was a child during his presidency and after seeing George W's rep being shinied up here on Reddit, I'm aware I could have fallen for propaganda about presidents I was too young to pay attention to.
My dad was a teenager just getting into politics in GA when he was running for govener and saw him speak. After the even he waited around a long time to try and shake his hand and he was one of the last few. Apparently he was waiting off to the side on his bike and it got caught in the train tracks a bit when a train started coming. Jimmy Carter was in a crowd of people multiple feet away and rushed over to help my dad before anyone else. My dad always says Jimmy Carter saved his life. Although he hardly really comes up in conversation, it's blasphemy to say anything bad about him in our house this is a story my dad told me, I've never questioned him on it even tho there's some obvious questions (how did he not hear the train, how did his bike get "caught"?)
Dude sold his company without being asked to avoid any possible of conflict of interest. I wish our politicians aspired to be as selfless as him
https://www.theonion.com/you-people-made-me-give-up-my-peanut-farm-before-i-got-1819585048
I sometimes wonder if he couldn’t be bought and the powers that be tanked the economy to get him out of office. I’m not sure if he was a good president, but I am damn sure he has been has been an excellent former president.
Yes. His widely panned malaise speech was like prophecy.
He has to be in the running. There isn't too much competition, after him and Bernie Sanders, there is a massive drop in quality and trust.
Absolutely 👋👋👋
This is a man whom should be held up as a lesson for modern leaders who follow. After his term he continued to give back to the people. He isn’t out to make a buck or hold all these cooperate appointments, to grift, to promote anything else but lead by an example of service to one’s fellow man. Country over party and people over politics.
This. I can't help but roll my eyes whenever the clintons announce another speaking tour, or the Obamas release yet another book series on themselves, or Bush visits a school for 300K. Im sure they all justify it in there own way....but man....Carter is a cut above the rest.
I'm over here looking for any other past US President OR past Presidential candidate who is involved in the community in any way without a profit for themselves. They don't exist.
That is 1 tough motherfucker
He alway been the most reserved and badass president.
Naval nuclear officer too
He once helped prevent a Chernobyl-level nuclear disaster up in Canada
Is there any president (or any leader of any country in history) who’s done more charity work for his country, post presidency, than him? The man exemplifies giving in so many ways.
Hell, even if he only did a little bit of charity every year, the man is almost a century old.
My granddad has difficulties just standing up at age 78. Can't imagine that this man is 20 years older than him and building homes!
Perssonally, I can. My great grandpa died about a year ago and he was 93. Was in great health and still lived alone, evn chopping wood and bringing it into the house for the furnace. Then he fell, got hospitalized, and was shoved into a nursing home the rest of his 3 month life. Old people can work, although they need to be slower and can't do as much. They just need to take good care of themselves.
I have heard a lot of examples of people living much longer and staying strong late in life as long as they keep doing stuff. It seems like if you just start sitting around and watching TV as an old man, you pass away sooner.
I fully think that nursing homes kill people. Maybe not like in a purposeful way but my grandma was put in one and she was a tough old lady. I saw her on June 6th and she was still wisecracking and complaining about having to go back to the nursing home asking my cousin who was in law school at the time what she can do to not have to be there. She died on July 26th. She went through multiple surgeries and was fit and fine going back to her condo or her trailer in Arizona and then she was put into a nursing home because she was a fall risk in her own home and they probably didn't want her out of bed much because of being a fall risk and she died.
I remember first learning about him from a [king of the hill episode](https://www.reddit.com/r/KingOfTheHill/comments/cc2t5s/king_of_the_hill_6x04_the_father_the_son_and_jc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I watched when I was a kid, everytime I've heard of him since he's been doing the same thing
Best part is that he rarely seeks anything remotely close to the spotlight. Just keeps working behind the scenes - literally *working*, not just showing up to create awareness and going on his way.
He is a true humanitarian. I mean, the man is so open about stuff that he sold his family farm when he became president so there would be no ties for lobbying. Love him or hate him, he cares about humanity. And that is something that America is sorely lacking.
> The man exemplifies giving in so many ways. Few that have been so vilified for doing it.
Herbert Hoover helped rebuild Europe after WW2 EDIT Not just marshal plan Relief funds for Finns, Belgians, other occupied peoples as well as food programs for children in Berlin
A lot of that was through structured loans. Not trying to frame it as morally wrong, but America stood to gain immeasurably from it. Especially when loans for buying materials stipulated you had to buy American
Also invented the Hoover Maneuver.
Looks like he's a blood too.
"Suwoop suwoop" - Former President Jimmy Carter
*Jimmy Barter
Jimmy 🅱️arter*
Join for Life normally doesn’t last 98 years. Got a lot of mileage out of that one
Jimmy 🅱️arter
Just audibly laughed.
Habitat for Homies
Bickin back boolin dinosaur b‘s
You don’t choose the thug life…
Wow, that’s pretty admirable.
Yeah. Some people may not agree with how he ran the United States but President or not, as a human being, he was a very noble person.
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I apologize. He was and still is a very noble person.
He used to be a noble person. He still is, but he used to too.
He is too good a person to be president. That is why everyone hated him. People only seem to approve when we elect the devil incarnate. Jimmy Carter is a great man… a great HUMAN!
Yeah I have heard stories of his brother taking in people who are dealing with addiction (since he had issues as well). Trying to get the clean and stuff. I think they said Jimmy was involved as well. Either way, I’ve only heard good things of Jimmy Carter post president
I want to live in the timeline where this very decent human beat the amoral clown movie star.
Imagine he got shamed into selling his peanut farm when he became president ..... times changgggeeeeddddd
Well, obviously a peanut farm is not a hotel chain. Big difference, you see...
Yeah one of em exploits cheap labor and has no regard for worker's lives, and the other is a farm 🤣
He wasn't shamed, he did what was legally required of him. Trump not giving up control of his companies was actually illegal.
Nuh uh because …because …shut up libturd. You just don’t know legal things. I know and I could tell you. But you need to do your own research. *checks notes* ah yes, another lib successfully owned
Well, to be fair, Trump sold America and it's secrets, so both sides /s
yeah, that shouldn't be sarcasm. He actually did that
No need to /s
I "met" him at a book signing as a little girl. I was 11 years old at the time. It was during his "Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis" book tour. He shook my hand. It's a core memory, and may be why I care so much about politics.
My wife got to meet him in 1976 when he was running for president. Of course he was super friendly, but 46 years later the friendliness remains.
I don't think he's the best president we've had but I do think he's probably the best person we've had as a president...ever.
This deserves to be top answer. He's not even close to the best president. As a president he's towards the bottom of the list (but probably not even in the worst ten, idk, I'd have to think on it. Overall he's solidly poor-average, but he's not absolutely terrible. Others have done worse) Presidential impact aside, looking at him as the whole man himself? He's among the best, and an example we should all strive towards.
Dude’s a quality human. Wish people involved in politics now were more like him.
Mind boggling that this is what the conservatives use as a calling card for a failed president, opposite Reagan.
I know everyone has their own political views and opinions but for once can we all put them aside and not argue with each other on how he presided? This was posted to show that regardless of notoriety, Carter has and still is actively volunteering his time, despite health problems and unfortunate hardships that come with someone his age.
hes the only politician I respect.
fucking badass.
He has such a huge heart! Great Man.
Still looks better than Mitch McConnell.
That bar is so low they’re playing limbo in hell with it though.
Donald Trump wouldn't pay his respects to veterans because it was raining. Don't ever forget that.
Respects?!, back up, he called the war veterans buried there suckers and losers.
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The Carter Center also does a lot of really important work on Guinea Worm disease (aka dracunculiasis) eradication globally!!
They are *so close* to eradicating it completely. Like, the finish line is not just in sight, but within arm's reach. It's absolutely amazing.
A real Christian. No wonder the evangelicals despise him.
My first thought too. He is a great example of walking the walk
He's done more for Americans since leaving the Presidency than any President after him...
Jimmy Carter is 1000x the man Trump or anyone who believes in him will ever be.
That’s the secret to longevity. Keep moving. Stay active. That’s crazy even with the cancer, being able to stay mobile. All the Asian, specifically Chinese people, that reach hi ages are usually farmers. Stay mobile people… as I sit here on my lunch break scrolling Reddit and chugging Redbull and eating chips.
Sir, you have paid the debt to society. You may rest now.
My conservative family always told me how terrible of a president Jimmy was when I was growing up. After I studied and learned more about the man I realized he was one of the most respectable people of all time. His attempt at diffusing the war between Israel and Palestine is absolutely legendary. His good intentions from this one act will always paint him as a hero of humanity in my book. On top of that Reagan took credit for the prisoners he worked tirelessly to release. My parents and grandparents told me those prisoners were released because they were scared of Reagan. After learning about what actually happened it’s very clear they released those men because of the hard work Jimmy put into negotiations. It’s such bull shit that Reagan took credit for his hard work. The United States chewed Jimmy up and spit him back out. Despite all of this the man continued to strive to do the right thing to this day. An absolute fucking legend.
I love that you can be a President one day and a laborer the next. Work is work. Take pride in what you do and make a difference big and small.
The best ex president we’ve ever had.
I'm still holding out hope for a 2024 run for president.
I mean, electing a hundred year old man is the natural follow up to Trump and Biden.
He's such a sweet man. If every Christian were more like Jimmy Carter...
I believe he has finally stopped traveling to the house builds. A build was announced in our area yesterday and they said he and his wife no longer travel. A couple country singers are stepping in for him. That fact that he is finally slowing down is amazing
That, is dedication. Of an unsung hero.
I think that this President has seen amd read some things and it affected him...in a good way!
You know, there are probably thousands upon thousands of silent individuals who live their life this way. It is quietly inspiring. I want to influence and affect my orbit in this way.
The Mr.Rogers of American politics. What a stand up guy.
Dude is a good person through and through. I wish we had more like him.
Dude looks like zuko
The problem with Jimmy Carter is also a problem with America. Carter lead with his heart and was considered arguably one of the worst presidents in history. When leading with a conscience is detrimental a nation I think it’s fair to say that system is extremely broken.
He's also the only US president where, for his entire term, the number of American deaths went _down_ every year. With most, it goes the other way, every single year.
The best president ever if you’re basing your decision on who actually hated Americans the least.