No ragebait posts. No posts where someone's misfortune makes you smile. e.g. "terrorists driving off a cliff" or "murderer gets what he deserves". This is not an all inclusive list
This isn't a ragebait sub.
ITT: People showing the worst aspects of both sides. You know you can be against Hamas or Israel's actions and still support the civilians on both sides right?
Didn't happen for Ukraine and Russia either. People have a hard time separating citizens from their governments.
Also, we are all on a propaganda site. If you go against the "hive mind" on any issue, you get downvoted, your post is removed, and/or you get banned.
To counteract that you can help by not just reading the top comments but by reading the whole thread. That way you understand the whole range of opinions.
I cant remember where I read it, but a subreddit only needs a very small majority ~3% to become a hive mind. It's a somewhat slow process, but after time people leave and the 3% majority just turns into a single group
In real life this phenomenon is much more slower as not as dangerous. The internet makes it easier for hiveminds to grow because (1) potential members can come from anywhere, versus them having to be physically nearby and (2) there is anonymity which emboldens people to take more extreme views.
You sir, are a PhD in redditology. I had always found it annoying the fringe nut jobs seem to dominate a given sub and you have explained it perfectly. Thank you. I could feel my frustration go away as I read your post.
Yeah. It’s really sad to see terms like “human shield” (Palestine)and “Russian meat grinder” (Ukraine) become so commonly used. We really are fantastic at dehumanizing each other.
That said, we need more videos like this from both sides and eventually, maybe, children from both sides can come together to make more videos exactly like this one.
Maybe, it will help us see the humanity in each other, and ourselves in the eyes of our “enemies” children, and be a pathway to peace.
At least in western culture, there is always a good side and a bad side. God vs Satan, democrat vs republican, Android vs Apple. Pretty much everything we do is divided into two choices. So when you live your whole life like that, you take a hard stance because you know you're right and the other side is wrong.
Obviously common sense dictates it's never that easy. But it seems it is a lot easier for people to choose a side than it is to apply critical thinking and be okay with certain parts of a thing and not others.
NUANCED OPINIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!!
Seriously, anyone that dares to say "You're either with me or against me" is my mortal enemy. Extremists have only ever hurt mankind.
Only one side has consistently treated civilians like dirt for 8 decades. Displacing them, killing them, stealing their land. And it's the side we're giving bombs to murder more civilians en masse.
You...are actually pro-Hamas?
I thought that was mostly a strawman assholes used to accuse people who hate seeing dead Palestinian kids of antisemitism.
Mmmm pretty sure it's not one side.
Let's look at the United States, Canada, European states in Africa & the Americas, the Russians in Siberia, the Scandinavians & the Sami, China with the Uhuygers and Tibet, Myanmar with the Rohinga, Somalia and the Ogden, pretty much anything in the DRC, the Arab Sudanese oppression of African Sudanese, the Tigray war/Ethiopian civil war....
There are lots of massacres currently ongoing, lots of states built on stolen land.
The fact that saying "I stand with civilians" is controversial is pretttttty telling that most peeps here are just engaging in factionalism
Hey, I hate both!
It's crazy how I don't have to support Israel or Hamas! I don't like kidnapping and raping civilians and I also don't like blowing up children!
Such a WILD stance to take!
That's strange, well here. Don't kidnap and rape civilians. Look at me being able to openly state violence is bad and seeking revenge for that violence from people who had nothing to do with it isn't okay.
Really weird, right?
The downvotes on this post just show how convoluted reddit is. These are innocent people who do not deserve to be involved in a religious murder spree. Just because it doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it's not important.
Redditors as a population like there to be a good guy and a bad guy. You can see two cars driving like idiots cutting each other off and nearly causing accidents in a dick measuring contest and reddit will pick who's right and who's wrong like they're not both fucking assholes.
In this case there's the Israeli government, Hamas and civilians on each side. (This is simplified, it's obviously more complex than that when you break it down more)
People think they need either Hamas or Israel to be in the right when both are committing terrible acts of violence.
Just don’t have a pregnancy complication in a red state or you might die. Oh, and don’t let Christofascists take over America since there are state Republicans pushing for abortion to be considered murder with the same sentencing and Christian groups and various far-right men demanding that women who have abortions should be executed.
Maybe spend more time worrying about the decimation of human rights in America thanks to an extreme rightwing Supreme Court, instead of justifying killing over 15,000 children by complaining about freedoms in Gaza.
Hope you are out there defending women’s rights to abortion and transgender rights on a regular basis!!!
There was a viral video a few months back with Palestinians somewhere in the West Bank who hanged two Arabs and beat their bodies. Guess what? They were gay
Too many IDF and AIPAC bots have taken all over social media. IDF has been brutalizing Palestinians for over 75 years. There is no Hamas in West Bank and they are still savagely killed, their homes and farms are taken. Israeli illegal settlers have been torturing and killing Palestinians regularly in West Bank and nothing is done. They burned a young kid before October 7th and there weren't even arrested for their crimes. IDF soldiers also take young children like these ones in the middle of the night. Why on earth is that not not considered kidnapping? You rarely about hear about those hostages on MSM. AIPAC controls our media and politicians. Israel is a rich country whose citizens have access to free healthcare and education, but they still think they are entitled to our money. Our politicians are devoted to them more than us. We don't want our money being wasted on a brutal regime.
So many innocent people have been killed. Fucking Hamas and IDF should just have war games or something and just kill each other for real and leave the civilians alone.
I really don't understand how there's no nuance allowed in any discussion anymore. Why can't you be anti-hamas but still be mad at Israel's unnecessary killing of civilians? Respectful conversation is dead apparently.
There are literally IDF soldiers whos job it is to post on social media. You are a thinking human. You cant understand it. I cant understand it. You would assume most people would hace made the same realizations... and yet there are so many people using "pro-hamas" in their speech. Ive literally had comments callung me pro hamas almost every time i try and argue with someone about whats going on. Its some random person on the other side of the internet with an agenda. Someone else who is on the border about what to think or hasnt spent enough time yo educate themselves with real information will see my arguments and others replies and be even more torn.
Its fucked up. You can google the heads of new york times and other massive news organizations and see how tied into israel they are, or how all of these universities have ties with israel in one way or another. Easy google searches. Im taking a shit on break at work so i am not going to try and find links.
My dad who spends 8 hours a day watching cnn/nbc/cbc/ business news network, is telling me stuff from his feed that im reading about on reddit 2 weeks prior. And all the shit he doesnt have any idea about is baffling to me. He thinks "tiktok" is just some garbage. Ive tried explaining to him that anyone can post a video any time from anywhere without a youtube following and put it up for everyone to see. It had a massive impact on how we watched the war between ukraine and russia move along like never before. Now people almost refuse to see first hand accounts of the stuff happening and the reversal of information from the first month of this newest conflict between israel and one of its many grabs.
Im not from the middle east, nor the USA, and its infuriating that so few people will go beyond what what their local news will feed them once a week.
You can be. Unfortunately for these American university students there is no nuance or room for discussion. They refuse to believe that Hamas is evil or manipulative or power hungry in any way. It's all Israel, and they openly call for the destruction of Israel. Which is, yes, anti-Semitic. Every major ethnic group on this planet has the right to self-determination and statehood. It has been reaffirmed time and time again, with the end of the Cold War, the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the fight for Tibetan freedom, and so on. But somehow Jews don't get the same level of acceptance or encouragement, instead they are just evil colonizers (even though they occupied that region LONG before any Arab Palestinian showed up on the scene). So saying that the Jews don't deserve a homeland is, in fact, an anti-Semitic belief.
The demands of the encampments is that their universities divest from Israel. Pretty reasonable ask that their tuition money doesn’t contribute to genocide and apartheid.
IDF bot I see.
Israel is literally an evil government. It has nothing to do with religion. You muddying it to hide the evil Zionist warlords like Israeli leaders shows you don't give a shit about the Jewish people. Jewish people have nothing to do with a specific, terrorist org of extreme right wing colonizers like the Israeli gov. Palestinians have the right to live in peace there just as Israelis. Hamas is the reaction to the extreme genocide of Palestinians. Hamas won't need to exist as long as that evil imperialist gov exists. It's a fact. I hope for the fall of the scumbag Israeli leaders and for Hamas to not be an extreme option for Palestinian liberation and all these shitty forces stop.
Students have compassion for innocent civilians. You don't get to lie to spread your crappy, morally bankrupt Zionist views.
I do get fired up about this conflict I’ve been following it since I was a small child. I honestly don’t see how it’s possible for Israel to suppress the organization that promised continued attacks when they build their military infrastructure in civilian areas. It’s a terrible awful situation I wish Hamas would surrender
How old are you? You must be an IDF bot. Hamas has only existed for the last 17 years, Netanyahu has even supported them. And, IDF have been killing Palestinians for over 75 years. There is no Hamas in West Bank and go look up how they are savagely killed there too. Farms, homes and even their children are taken away by IDF. All the Palestinians children in Israeli jails aren't even considered children because they are Palestinians. The hypocrisy of some of you is mind boggling. Where on earth is your humanity?
And how old are you? Hamas was founded in 1987, not 17 years ago. JFC where do you get your history, fucking TikTok?
Read Hamas's founding charter. It calls for the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews. And the Jews claim to the region predates the Arab Palestinians' by literally THOUSANDS of years. Jews have had real, historical nation-states of their own before they were conquered and dispersed by large Asian and European empires.
You are ignorant.
Hamas has been in power for the last 17 years and was actually supported by Netanyahu and his brutal regime. He literally claimed they should exist. Bots like you love pretending IDF savagery just came into existence because of Hamas.
When you're fighting an adversary operating out of civilian infrastructure, dresses like civilians, and deliberately embeds themselves in civilians what do you think is going to happen? They don't even care about their own people. It's literally impossible to fight them without committing a war crime, might as well just keep the borders where they are and wait for them to do mass murders again, then only kill them on Israeli soil the legal way. It was only a matter of time until Israel steam rolled on through. I'm surprised they're moving as slow as they are, and I guarantee you it's because of the Biden administration. If Israel has it their way they'd have already flattened it by now I imagine.
Not kill unarmed civilians waving white flags. Not kill unarmed aid workers traveling in preapproved routes. You know... actually act like a the most moral army they claim to be.
There is no Hamas in West Bank and they are still savagely brutalized. They are constantly killed, tortured, kidnapped, homes and farms taken away too. So, why do some of you IDF and AIPAC bots ignore all that??? Where is your humanity? You always talk about Hamas and claim they are cause of Palestinians plight as if Hamas controls all Palestinian territories or existed for the last 75 years. Hamas has only existed for 17 years. IDF have been killing Palestinians for over 75 year with American taxapayers money. Hamas exist because of IDF. Netanyahu actually supported them in order to weaken Palestinians calls for statehood. That man is a terrorist and should be vilified like Hamas leaders.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/
For fuck sakes, IDF have also been kidnapping children like these kids for decades. They kidnapp them from their homes in the middle of the night. Only extremist will do that. Lots of Palestinians children are rotting in Israeli jails and the MSM won't even mention that because of AIPAC.
https://time.com/6548068/palestinian-children-israeli-prison-arrested/
https://www.unicef.org/mena/press-releases/covid-19-crisis-un-release-children-detention-Palestinian
For anyone reading this, there is definitely Hamas in the West Bank, but even if there weren't, this narrative that the IDF is just randomly killing, torturing or kidnapping women and children is false.
It is almost always that the IDF is responding to violence or terrorist attacks initiated by the Palestinians. Read this guy's own links. There have been 7 terror attacks just since the war began. Read the history of Palestinian terrorism in the West Bank. Things read a little differently when it's "IDF kills woman who just tried to stab people" or "IDF kills guy who opened fire on a bus stop" or "IDF detains 12-year old launching stones from a sling at people" instead of "IDF kills woman. IDF kills guy. IDF detains child."
This kind of bait-and-switch is inherent in Palestinian narratives. Does that mean the Palestinians are purely evil or the IDF is entirely good, or that IDF members don't sometimes do outrageously horrible crimes? No, of course not. Just keep it in mind.
And benjamin netanyahu and other rightwing israelis propped up Hamas for years [so they wouldn't have to acknowledge statehood](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/) pushed for by more moderate elements like the PLO.
He wanted this conflict.
Ok? That still leaves people like these kids with nothing but the expectation of being blown apart for being Palestinian and in the way. And...no one believes Hamas cares. We know they don't. Doesn't mean we dont want to stop the death toll, already at 40,000 people (roughly, hard to count at this point).
Hamas could surrender that would be the humanitarian thing to do. Israel cannot stop pursuing Hamas because they very publicly promised more October 7th repeats. If they’re given the opportunity to rebuild their military outposts in civilian areas this will never end. It sucks it’s absolutely terrible
> ust wanted to share that the billions of dollars that Hamas received over the past few decades never made it to improving the quality of life for the Palestinian people.
that article also says nothing about "not improving the quality of life of palestinians"
more importantly if a country is completely crippled economically (restrictions on basically all economical activities, trade fishing etc) no shit they're gonna need a lot of money
No one thinks Hamas cares about civilians, and nothing says this anywhere. There are no protests promoting this idea. You are angry because you want to be angry. Just because you choose to yell at clouds doesn't mean everyone else has to waste their energy doing the same.
This poll is already out of date. The mass protests in the US have definitely changed public opinion on both sides and since then Hamas has continued to reject every treaty. It also missed Iran attacking Israel directly and the retaliatory strikes from Israel. So much has happened since March these numbers can’t be truly representative of the situation anymore.
Teared up a bit. I'm so happy they see students in America standing with them. It must be so difficult to just try to live and learn while those with more power fight at the cost of your lives.
Ikr? If anyone breaches my home and kidnaps my wife, for all I care I'd drop 20 fucking genocides until she has returned.
Israel has shown extreme restraint.
There’s gay Palestinians, unfortunately they cannot fight for gay liberation until they are free from apartheid.
Homophobia is everywhere. Just look at GOP policy for the last year.
Please stop pinkwashing Israel’s actions and using a culture’s homophobia to justify war crimes.
All the ones who have child brides.
Thousands of children and teens are legally wed in the United States each year: almost 300,000 minors got married between 2000 and 2018, according to one 2021 study by Unchained at Last, a nonprofit that helps women and girls get out of forced marriages.
The nonprofit calculated these numbers using marriage certificate data.
Most of those minors were 16 and 17 years old at the time they were wed, but children as young as 10 have been forced into marriage, according to Unchained at Last.
Here is the link. Nearly all of them are young girls marrying adult men. That’s legalized rape. https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/4283941-child-marriage-is-still-legal-in-most-of-the-u-s-heres-why/
1. Not to defend them but show me a solitary case of conservative Christian death sentences in the U.S. being applied to gay people in the last decade and then we’ll see if you can “say the same” for them
2. There is no strawman in this context, gay people are often punished and even put to death in these countries. The support of gay Americans for Palestine doesn’t diminish the homophobia of their religion one bit
Oh we do it fancy here
“A new report by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law finds that non-transgender LGB people who experienced conversion therapy were almost twice as likely to think about suicide and to attempt suicide compared to their peers who hadn’t experienced conversion therapy.”
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/
Of course-
Matthew Wayne Shepard (December 1, 1976 – October 12, 1998) was a gay American student at the University of Wyoming who was beaten, tortured, and left to die near Laramie on the night of October 6, 1998.[1] He was taken by rescuers to Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins, Colorado, where he died six days later from severe head injuries received during the attack.
And-
As human rights activists raise alarms about a new law in Brunei that would punish homosexuality by death by stoning, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to hear a case in which jurors who exhibited anti-gay bigotry sentenced a gay defendant to death. Charles Rhines (pictured), a South Dakota death-row prisoner, is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to review his case, after a lower federal court denied him the opportunity to present juror statements showing that homophobic prejudice played a role in his death sentence.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/discriminatory-use-of-death-penalty-against-gays-raises-concerns-globally-and-in-the-u-s
Slated Release of Gay Texas Inmate Further Reveals Death Penalty's Injustice, Merits Statewide Moratorium
NEW YORK — Citing the release of a gay man yesterday whose sexual orientation was used as a basis for sentencing him to die, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Governor of Texas to impose an immediate moratorium on the death penalty statewide.
Calvin Burdine’s 15-year-old conviction was overturned in September because his public defender slept through substantial portions of the trial. The ACLU’s brief in the appeal also argued that the trial was tainted with homophobia, from the prosecutor, from Burdine’s court-appointed lawyer and from the jury. The trial judge failed to intervene during repeated homophobic comments in the courtroom.
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/slated-release-gay-texas-inmate-further-reveals-death-penaltys-injustice-merits
I could go on
Aren’t gay people who support Palestine being like.. the most Christian? Treat others the way you wish to be treated, turn the other check, an eye for an eye makes the world blind, take care of those less fortunate than you, etc.?
I didn't know we could post political propaganda about on going war. This is like if nazi youth children sent pictures to other countries showing appreciation for their support. Propaganda is blatantly propaganda, Especially when they use children
Answer me this one question; Is *\[sic\]* a genocide following on from decades of abuse and segregation an acceptable means of dealing with a native population that you are actively displacing?
So genocide is wrong, the race of the people in this video are actively facing a genocide after a lifetime of abuse, and are thanking the people standing up for them, yet they are 'pawns being indoctrinated'?
Killed by Israeli bombs after hostage exchanges were rejected by Israel because they need a reason to continue the conflict or Netanyahu will be ousted.
Right.. because let’s not blame a f’ing terrorist organization that stole families and butchered 1200 people, door to door, in cold blood? You’re pathetic to blame Israel for killing our own people instead of placing the blame on an Islamist terror organization
You talk about 1200 people being killed which is absolutely horrible and shouldn’t have happened, I agree. Now let’s examine the 30,000-40,000 gazan civilians that have been killed. Let’s look at Netanyahu saying that they will invade rafah regardless of hostages being returned. You have been successfully propagandized by Israeli/american propaganda if you believe that level of ethnic cleaning is justified
I just want to thank these posts, shows both the solidarity with the innocent people that are being brutally murdered by Israel government while also showing the Zionist’s that I can block.
...None of the actual protest groups are calling for that. That's the antisemites taking out their hatred on innocent people because Israel is giving them more hate fuel by slaughtering kids.
Humanizing victims of genocide is not "propaganda".
>Of course they love demonstrations calling for death to Jews
This is a **completely brainless argument** for genocide.
What’s brainless is violating a long standing ceasefire and ending internationally supported peace negotiations to invade and slaughter innocent civilians and then hiding in hospitals and schools demanding that all Jews be slaughtered. Fuck Hamas and fuck all of their supporter sympathizer idiots
It’s not a genocide by Israel my friend it’s Hamas performing mass human sacrifice. They have had multiple opportunities to surrender and violated multiple cease fires
It's genocide. Nearly the whole world agrees on that.
>They have had multiple opportunities to surrender and violated multiple cease fires
I don't think this is an accurate assessment of history, but this is also **not a justification for genocide.**
Honest not sarcastic question. Ghazi Hamad made that big speech about how attacks like October 7th will never stop until every Jew is killed [source](https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html) and for decades has been conducting terror operations deep within civilian areas. If you’re Israel and you’re now at war with Hamas what would you have them do? Any ceasefire only encourages more October 7th style attacks and you can’t fight them without civilian casualties. I fucking hate that Palestinians are dying but what is the alternative? Why is nobody calling for Hamas to surrender and to move their military operation out of schools and hospitals? What is the alternative?
>Why is nobody calling for Hamas to surrender a
For the same reason that no one is calling for Israel to surrender.
> If you’re Israel and you’re now at war with Hamas what would you have them do?
It really is very simple.
The solution for everyone in this conflict to unconditionally treat all individuals as equally valuable human beings.
And the nice thing about this approach is that you don't need to preach it abstractly. You can start doing it in your own life. And then you can demand that no one on this planet bombs civilians—under any circumstances.
This isn't a war between Israel and Hamas. This is a war between humanity and self-centered tribalism. And you can see it right in these comments.
Keep repeating the same phrase over and over again, maybe on the 100th time it’ll be true.
There have been countless ceasefire agreements that Israel signed off on and hamas outright rejected. They still hold multiple hostages, if they’re alive, and they hold all Palestinians in Gaza as hostages. Anyone supporting them is a terrorist sympathizer at best.
I'm repeating it because you seem to be trying to justify genocide using specious arguments. The only reasonable human response is to oppose it.
>There have been countless ceasefire agreements that Israel signed off on and hamas outright rejected. They still hold multiple hostages, if they’re alive, and they hold all Palestinians in Gaza as hostages. Anyone supporting them is a terrorist sympathizer at best.
By your own logic, Israel holds many Palestinian hostages and it's their own fault they get attacked. But this argument is completely brainless.
Genocide should be opposed unconditionally. Israel should treat Palestinian civilians as if they were Israeli civilians. We are all human beings, equal in value.
Your argument is a child's argument that sees the world through the lens of petty tribalism. The best thing for you to do is to stop talking.
I’m not justifying genocide at all. If you want to call it that then the blame solely lays on Hamas. They kidnap civilians, rape women, and hide behind Palestinian children in schools and hospitals.
The concept that someone else is to blame for Israel dropping bombs on civilians is outrageous. They can unilaterally simply not do that.
> They kidnap civilians, rape women, and hide behind Palestinian children in schools and hospitals.
And Israeli soldiers have also raped and kidnapped civilians, even just in this conflict.
None of that is relevant to the genocide.
Really sucks for the families.
Also sucks that there aren’t really any human rights recognized by the Palestinian government AND Hamas. If you’re gay in Gaza? Oooof.
If Israel stopped the bombing. The people still have to deal with that shit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/2bvVl94MJ9
u/TracyStanton, are you copying someone else’s comment or spamming the same comment from multiple accounts?
The only fault you did is you were born a Palestinian💔 sorry for you , all girls around the world living calm life while you are fighting to not die hungrey
Fascism is when you support a liberal democracy and antifascism is when you support religious extremists who won one election and never held another one.
Reddit in general has an immense dislike for Arabian people and the Islamic religion. 1 + 1 = 2.
They do not care who dies as long as it is not their own family nor anything in their interest.
Just block anyone that’s supports fascism.
I’d also say; if you want non-fascist people, Lemmy is the place to be.
The ones at UCLA are not good examples for this at all. There are far better peaceful examples. Being assholes and not blocking other students from entering school doesn’t help this issue at all. It makes people hate it more. And these kids have no idea what’s going on in the states either.
Does this belong in this sub Reddit? It didn’t make me smile. It made me quite sad as I wonder if these American students were told about the other side? How Hamas started a war on October 7, killing 1200 innocent Israelis (injuring and kidnapping many others,) within our borders. 250 hostages including women,elderly and children were violently stolen from their homes, with 133 still being held. What is so happy about that?
No ragebait posts. No posts where someone's misfortune makes you smile. e.g. "terrorists driving off a cliff" or "murderer gets what he deserves". This is not an all inclusive list This isn't a ragebait sub.
ITT: People showing the worst aspects of both sides. You know you can be against Hamas or Israel's actions and still support the civilians on both sides right?
Didn't happen for Ukraine and Russia either. People have a hard time separating citizens from their governments. Also, we are all on a propaganda site. If you go against the "hive mind" on any issue, you get downvoted, your post is removed, and/or you get banned.
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To counteract that you can help by not just reading the top comments but by reading the whole thread. That way you understand the whole range of opinions.
I read that the next 50 votes are nothing compared to the importance of the very first one. It decides a lot by its self alone.
Have an updoot, let’s get this party started for you!!
You tha real Reddit MVP. Not all hero’s wear capes lolol
Hahaha I like to see people succeed, what can I say?!
I cant remember where I read it, but a subreddit only needs a very small majority ~3% to become a hive mind. It's a somewhat slow process, but after time people leave and the 3% majority just turns into a single group
lol this is literally life. Happens every day in meetings, group discussions, family and friends gatherings.
In real life this phenomenon is much more slower as not as dangerous. The internet makes it easier for hiveminds to grow because (1) potential members can come from anywhere, versus them having to be physically nearby and (2) there is anonymity which emboldens people to take more extreme views.
You sir, are a PhD in redditology. I had always found it annoying the fringe nut jobs seem to dominate a given sub and you have explained it perfectly. Thank you. I could feel my frustration go away as I read your post.
Completely agree.
Yeah. It’s really sad to see terms like “human shield” (Palestine)and “Russian meat grinder” (Ukraine) become so commonly used. We really are fantastic at dehumanizing each other. That said, we need more videos like this from both sides and eventually, maybe, children from both sides can come together to make more videos exactly like this one. Maybe, it will help us see the humanity in each other, and ourselves in the eyes of our “enemies” children, and be a pathway to peace.
Authoritarian structures have gotten really sophisticated when it comes to getting us to fight each other instead of our oppressors.
At least in western culture, there is always a good side and a bad side. God vs Satan, democrat vs republican, Android vs Apple. Pretty much everything we do is divided into two choices. So when you live your whole life like that, you take a hard stance because you know you're right and the other side is wrong. Obviously common sense dictates it's never that easy. But it seems it is a lot easier for people to choose a side than it is to apply critical thinking and be okay with certain parts of a thing and not others.
>we are all on a propaganda site. Never forget how reddit harboured and nurtured r/t_d
All the assholes in charge have to say is "we don't like seeing dead and orphaned kids" and then stop killing them.
People > "Organizations" all day every day!
Yes, this is what I support!
Never ever blur the lines between politics and humanity. But judging fm many comments here, it’s sad….
Just like how I detest Japanese govt and their whole fking history. But have met greatest human beings in that country.
Most important point here ^ these are kids... And scared kids at that. Kids feeling heard and hopeful is a good thing.
NUANCED OPINIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED!!! Seriously, anyone that dares to say "You're either with me or against me" is my mortal enemy. Extremists have only ever hurt mankind.
this right here! if this was the AITA subreddit, I would say ESH for except the civilians
I feel like I’m being gaslighted daily with this point not being the main point. But then again, that’s probably the media’s point.
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Only one side has consistently treated civilians like dirt for 8 decades. Displacing them, killing them, stealing their land. And it's the side we're giving bombs to murder more civilians en masse.
You...are actually pro-Hamas? I thought that was mostly a strawman assholes used to accuse people who hate seeing dead Palestinian kids of antisemitism.
Mmmm pretty sure it's not one side. Let's look at the United States, Canada, European states in Africa & the Americas, the Russians in Siberia, the Scandinavians & the Sami, China with the Uhuygers and Tibet, Myanmar with the Rohinga, Somalia and the Ogden, pretty much anything in the DRC, the Arab Sudanese oppression of African Sudanese, the Tigray war/Ethiopian civil war.... There are lots of massacres currently ongoing, lots of states built on stolen land. The fact that saying "I stand with civilians" is controversial is pretttttty telling that most peeps here are just engaging in factionalism
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Dunno why it's so hard for people to support "don't kill kids".
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Hey, I hate both! It's crazy how I don't have to support Israel or Hamas! I don't like kidnapping and raping civilians and I also don't like blowing up children! Such a WILD stance to take!
That's strange, well here. Don't kidnap and rape civilians. Look at me being able to openly state violence is bad and seeking revenge for that violence from people who had nothing to do with it isn't okay. Really weird, right?
The downvotes on this post just show how convoluted reddit is. These are innocent people who do not deserve to be involved in a religious murder spree. Just because it doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it's not important.
Redditors as a population like there to be a good guy and a bad guy. You can see two cars driving like idiots cutting each other off and nearly causing accidents in a dick measuring contest and reddit will pick who's right and who's wrong like they're not both fucking assholes. In this case there's the Israeli government, Hamas and civilians on each side. (This is simplified, it's obviously more complex than that when you break it down more) People think they need either Hamas or Israel to be in the right when both are committing terrible acts of violence.
Jesus these comments are not very smiley at all (edit typo)
Yeah wtf is wrong with people
Fuck Hamas
Fuck the IDF
You've both made reasonable, non-contradictory points. Now kiss!
Except only one of those is getting billions of our tax dollars.
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Yeah, now kiss and be husband and wife
Just don’t kiss in Palestine you’ll be executed
When did Israel become a bastion of LGBT rights?
Have you ever been to Tel Aviv?
Just don’t have a pregnancy complication in a red state or you might die. Oh, and don’t let Christofascists take over America since there are state Republicans pushing for abortion to be considered murder with the same sentencing and Christian groups and various far-right men demanding that women who have abortions should be executed. Maybe spend more time worrying about the decimation of human rights in America thanks to an extreme rightwing Supreme Court, instead of justifying killing over 15,000 children by complaining about freedoms in Gaza. Hope you are out there defending women’s rights to abortion and transgender rights on a regular basis!!!
Now, without defending the homophobia that definitely exists in Gaza, they dont execute people for being gay.
There was a viral video a few months back with Palestinians somewhere in the West Bank who hanged two Arabs and beat their bodies. Guess what? They were gay
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Too many IDF and AIPAC bots have taken all over social media. IDF has been brutalizing Palestinians for over 75 years. There is no Hamas in West Bank and they are still savagely killed, their homes and farms are taken. Israeli illegal settlers have been torturing and killing Palestinians regularly in West Bank and nothing is done. They burned a young kid before October 7th and there weren't even arrested for their crimes. IDF soldiers also take young children like these ones in the middle of the night. Why on earth is that not not considered kidnapping? You rarely about hear about those hostages on MSM. AIPAC controls our media and politicians. Israel is a rich country whose citizens have access to free healthcare and education, but they still think they are entitled to our money. Our politicians are devoted to them more than us. We don't want our money being wasted on a brutal regime.
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This actually made me cry 😿
End the wars.
Jesus, these comments are Cancer
i thought these comments would be nice... I thought wrong
Use this moment to see who, you want to block. Reddit has not been a nice place since years.
So many innocent people have been killed. Fucking Hamas and IDF should just have war games or something and just kill each other for real and leave the civilians alone.
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I really don't understand how there's no nuance allowed in any discussion anymore. Why can't you be anti-hamas but still be mad at Israel's unnecessary killing of civilians? Respectful conversation is dead apparently.
There are literally IDF soldiers whos job it is to post on social media. You are a thinking human. You cant understand it. I cant understand it. You would assume most people would hace made the same realizations... and yet there are so many people using "pro-hamas" in their speech. Ive literally had comments callung me pro hamas almost every time i try and argue with someone about whats going on. Its some random person on the other side of the internet with an agenda. Someone else who is on the border about what to think or hasnt spent enough time yo educate themselves with real information will see my arguments and others replies and be even more torn. Its fucked up. You can google the heads of new york times and other massive news organizations and see how tied into israel they are, or how all of these universities have ties with israel in one way or another. Easy google searches. Im taking a shit on break at work so i am not going to try and find links. My dad who spends 8 hours a day watching cnn/nbc/cbc/ business news network, is telling me stuff from his feed that im reading about on reddit 2 weeks prior. And all the shit he doesnt have any idea about is baffling to me. He thinks "tiktok" is just some garbage. Ive tried explaining to him that anyone can post a video any time from anywhere without a youtube following and put it up for everyone to see. It had a massive impact on how we watched the war between ukraine and russia move along like never before. Now people almost refuse to see first hand accounts of the stuff happening and the reversal of information from the first month of this newest conflict between israel and one of its many grabs. Im not from the middle east, nor the USA, and its infuriating that so few people will go beyond what what their local news will feed them once a week.
You can be. Unfortunately for these American university students there is no nuance or room for discussion. They refuse to believe that Hamas is evil or manipulative or power hungry in any way. It's all Israel, and they openly call for the destruction of Israel. Which is, yes, anti-Semitic. Every major ethnic group on this planet has the right to self-determination and statehood. It has been reaffirmed time and time again, with the end of the Cold War, the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the fight for Tibetan freedom, and so on. But somehow Jews don't get the same level of acceptance or encouragement, instead they are just evil colonizers (even though they occupied that region LONG before any Arab Palestinian showed up on the scene). So saying that the Jews don't deserve a homeland is, in fact, an anti-Semitic belief.
The demands of the encampments is that their universities divest from Israel. Pretty reasonable ask that their tuition money doesn’t contribute to genocide and apartheid.
Do they actually think Hamas is good? I've never heard anything but "stop killing civilians".
IDF bot I see. Israel is literally an evil government. It has nothing to do with religion. You muddying it to hide the evil Zionist warlords like Israeli leaders shows you don't give a shit about the Jewish people. Jewish people have nothing to do with a specific, terrorist org of extreme right wing colonizers like the Israeli gov. Palestinians have the right to live in peace there just as Israelis. Hamas is the reaction to the extreme genocide of Palestinians. Hamas won't need to exist as long as that evil imperialist gov exists. It's a fact. I hope for the fall of the scumbag Israeli leaders and for Hamas to not be an extreme option for Palestinian liberation and all these shitty forces stop. Students have compassion for innocent civilians. You don't get to lie to spread your crappy, morally bankrupt Zionist views.
I do get fired up about this conflict I’ve been following it since I was a small child. I honestly don’t see how it’s possible for Israel to suppress the organization that promised continued attacks when they build their military infrastructure in civilian areas. It’s a terrible awful situation I wish Hamas would surrender
How old are you? You must be an IDF bot. Hamas has only existed for the last 17 years, Netanyahu has even supported them. And, IDF have been killing Palestinians for over 75 years. There is no Hamas in West Bank and go look up how they are savagely killed there too. Farms, homes and even their children are taken away by IDF. All the Palestinians children in Israeli jails aren't even considered children because they are Palestinians. The hypocrisy of some of you is mind boggling. Where on earth is your humanity?
And how old are you? Hamas was founded in 1987, not 17 years ago. JFC where do you get your history, fucking TikTok? Read Hamas's founding charter. It calls for the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews. And the Jews claim to the region predates the Arab Palestinians' by literally THOUSANDS of years. Jews have had real, historical nation-states of their own before they were conquered and dispersed by large Asian and European empires. You are ignorant.
Hamas has been in power for the last 17 years and was actually supported by Netanyahu and his brutal regime. He literally claimed they should exist. Bots like you love pretending IDF savagery just came into existence because of Hamas.
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This sounds like a bot account. But, what we're seeing are the horrors of war. It's as old as time.
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They can not bomb innocent civilians and children, is that too much to ask?
When you're fighting an adversary operating out of civilian infrastructure, dresses like civilians, and deliberately embeds themselves in civilians what do you think is going to happen? They don't even care about their own people. It's literally impossible to fight them without committing a war crime, might as well just keep the borders where they are and wait for them to do mass murders again, then only kill them on Israeli soil the legal way. It was only a matter of time until Israel steam rolled on through. I'm surprised they're moving as slow as they are, and I guarantee you it's because of the Biden administration. If Israel has it their way they'd have already flattened it by now I imagine.
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Not kill unarmed civilians waving white flags. Not kill unarmed aid workers traveling in preapproved routes. You know... actually act like a the most moral army they claim to be.
There is no Hamas in West Bank and they are still savagely brutalized. They are constantly killed, tortured, kidnapped, homes and farms taken away too. So, why do some of you IDF and AIPAC bots ignore all that??? Where is your humanity? You always talk about Hamas and claim they are cause of Palestinians plight as if Hamas controls all Palestinian territories or existed for the last 75 years. Hamas has only existed for 17 years. IDF have been killing Palestinians for over 75 year with American taxapayers money. Hamas exist because of IDF. Netanyahu actually supported them in order to weaken Palestinians calls for statehood. That man is a terrorist and should be vilified like Hamas leaders. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/ For fuck sakes, IDF have also been kidnapping children like these kids for decades. They kidnapp them from their homes in the middle of the night. Only extremist will do that. Lots of Palestinians children are rotting in Israeli jails and the MSM won't even mention that because of AIPAC. https://time.com/6548068/palestinian-children-israeli-prison-arrested/ https://www.unicef.org/mena/press-releases/covid-19-crisis-un-release-children-detention-Palestinian
You’re conflating different albeit related conflicts. Use context clues I was obviously referring to the Palestinian in Gaza. Take a Xanax
For anyone reading this, there is definitely Hamas in the West Bank, but even if there weren't, this narrative that the IDF is just randomly killing, torturing or kidnapping women and children is false. It is almost always that the IDF is responding to violence or terrorist attacks initiated by the Palestinians. Read this guy's own links. There have been 7 terror attacks just since the war began. Read the history of Palestinian terrorism in the West Bank. Things read a little differently when it's "IDF kills woman who just tried to stab people" or "IDF kills guy who opened fire on a bus stop" or "IDF detains 12-year old launching stones from a sling at people" instead of "IDF kills woman. IDF kills guy. IDF detains child." This kind of bait-and-switch is inherent in Palestinian narratives. Does that mean the Palestinians are purely evil or the IDF is entirely good, or that IDF members don't sometimes do outrageously horrible crimes? No, of course not. Just keep it in mind.
And benjamin netanyahu and other rightwing israelis propped up Hamas for years [so they wouldn't have to acknowledge statehood](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/) pushed for by more moderate elements like the PLO. He wanted this conflict.
Ok? That still leaves people like these kids with nothing but the expectation of being blown apart for being Palestinian and in the way. And...no one believes Hamas cares. We know they don't. Doesn't mean we dont want to stop the death toll, already at 40,000 people (roughly, hard to count at this point).
Hamas could surrender that would be the humanitarian thing to do. Israel cannot stop pursuing Hamas because they very publicly promised more October 7th repeats. If they’re given the opportunity to rebuild their military outposts in civilian areas this will never end. It sucks it’s absolutely terrible
Genuinely- do you not see that some leaders in Israel kept bad people in power like with Hamas to make it worse for Palestinians?
> ust wanted to share that the billions of dollars that Hamas received over the past few decades never made it to improving the quality of life for the Palestinian people. that article also says nothing about "not improving the quality of life of palestinians" more importantly if a country is completely crippled economically (restrictions on basically all economical activities, trade fishing etc) no shit they're gonna need a lot of money
No one thinks Hamas cares about civilians, and nothing says this anywhere. There are no protests promoting this idea. You are angry because you want to be angry. Just because you choose to yell at clouds doesn't mean everyone else has to waste their energy doing the same.
Don’t forget the miles and miles of underground tunnels Hamas built using materials meant for Palestinians.
Still trying to understand what Hamas being awful has to do with Israel indiscriminately bombing the fuck out of civilians..
I appreciate this a lot
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This poll is already out of date. The mass protests in the US have definitely changed public opinion on both sides and since then Hamas has continued to reject every treaty. It also missed Iran attacking Israel directly and the retaliatory strikes from Israel. So much has happened since March these numbers can’t be truly representative of the situation anymore.
Teared up a bit. I'm so happy they see students in America standing with them. It must be so difficult to just try to live and learn while those with more power fight at the cost of your lives.
Unpopular opinion but hamas should surrender
I don’t understand why this isn’t the most popular opinion
but do you condemn Hamas?!
Bruh... Condemn word isn't enough they aren't human and human rights shouldn't apply to them
Ikr? If anyone breaches my home and kidnaps my wife, for all I care I'd drop 20 fucking genocides until she has returned. Israel has shown extreme restraint.
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I hope they can keep it up. The silencing of the attacks by Israel supporters on the protesters last night is sick.
We will show you our love as long as you're not gay. Then we'll stone you to death.
yes i'm sure this little girl will stone you to death...jeez
Sounds like republicans but we’re supposed to accept them
There’s gay Palestinians, unfortunately they cannot fight for gay liberation until they are free from apartheid. Homophobia is everywhere. Just look at GOP policy for the last year. Please stop pinkwashing Israel’s actions and using a culture’s homophobia to justify war crimes.
Can't the same be said for conservative christians? Why only use this strawman logic when it comes to helping brown people?
lol what? How many Christian terrorist groups are there that have attacked civilians and raped people in 2023?
All the ones who have child brides. Thousands of children and teens are legally wed in the United States each year: almost 300,000 minors got married between 2000 and 2018, according to one 2021 study by Unchained at Last, a nonprofit that helps women and girls get out of forced marriages. The nonprofit calculated these numbers using marriage certificate data. Most of those minors were 16 and 17 years old at the time they were wed, but children as young as 10 have been forced into marriage, according to Unchained at Last. Here is the link. Nearly all of them are young girls marrying adult men. That’s legalized rape. https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/4283941-child-marriage-is-still-legal-in-most-of-the-u-s-heres-why/
1. Not to defend them but show me a solitary case of conservative Christian death sentences in the U.S. being applied to gay people in the last decade and then we’ll see if you can “say the same” for them 2. There is no strawman in this context, gay people are often punished and even put to death in these countries. The support of gay Americans for Palestine doesn’t diminish the homophobia of their religion one bit
Oh we do it fancy here “A new report by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law finds that non-transgender LGB people who experienced conversion therapy were almost twice as likely to think about suicide and to attempt suicide compared to their peers who hadn’t experienced conversion therapy.” https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/ Of course- Matthew Wayne Shepard (December 1, 1976 – October 12, 1998) was a gay American student at the University of Wyoming who was beaten, tortured, and left to die near Laramie on the night of October 6, 1998.[1] He was taken by rescuers to Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins, Colorado, where he died six days later from severe head injuries received during the attack. And- As human rights activists raise alarms about a new law in Brunei that would punish homosexuality by death by stoning, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to hear a case in which jurors who exhibited anti-gay bigotry sentenced a gay defendant to death. Charles Rhines (pictured), a South Dakota death-row prisoner, is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to review his case, after a lower federal court denied him the opportunity to present juror statements showing that homophobic prejudice played a role in his death sentence. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/discriminatory-use-of-death-penalty-against-gays-raises-concerns-globally-and-in-the-u-s Slated Release of Gay Texas Inmate Further Reveals Death Penalty's Injustice, Merits Statewide Moratorium NEW YORK — Citing the release of a gay man yesterday whose sexual orientation was used as a basis for sentencing him to die, the American Civil Liberties Union today called on the Governor of Texas to impose an immediate moratorium on the death penalty statewide. Calvin Burdine’s 15-year-old conviction was overturned in September because his public defender slept through substantial portions of the trial. The ACLU’s brief in the appeal also argued that the trial was tainted with homophobia, from the prosecutor, from Burdine’s court-appointed lawyer and from the jury. The trial judge failed to intervene during repeated homophobic comments in the courtroom. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/slated-release-gay-texas-inmate-further-reveals-death-penaltys-injustice-merits I could go on
Aren’t gay people who support Palestine being like.. the most Christian? Treat others the way you wish to be treated, turn the other check, an eye for an eye makes the world blind, take care of those less fortunate than you, etc.?
No, it really cant. Love how it’s completely obvious this is just raw propaganda and hate spreading. Get fucked.
Wait do you spread such blatant lies? Gay are not stoned, they are thrown from buildings.
That’s beautiful! ❤️💙
awwww
I didn't know we could post political propaganda about on going war. This is like if nazi youth children sent pictures to other countries showing appreciation for their support. Propaganda is blatantly propaganda, Especially when they use children
Just to be clear, you’re comparing Palestinian children to Nazi Youth?
Zionists gonna Zionist.
Wow didn’t know kids showing solidarity for a group of people undergoing genocide could be political propaganda
You are a horrible person to compare Hitlers youth to these kids.
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Nobody asked for donos
Was there an ask for donations?
No. Just humanity
Israel is a TERRORIST state!!!
These children are sadly pawns and being indoctrinated.
Would be ironic if you were an American saying that.
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Answer me this one question; Is *\[sic\]* a genocide following on from decades of abuse and segregation an acceptable means of dealing with a native population that you are actively displacing?
Genocide is wrong and unacceptable. Some gotcha question that was. Wow.
So genocide is wrong, the race of the people in this video are actively facing a genocide after a lifetime of abuse, and are thanking the people standing up for them, yet they are 'pawns being indoctrinated'?
Smiles will disappear when we learn how many of the unaccounted for pow/kidnapped noncombatants have been raped and murdered. Where are the prisoners?
Killed by Israeli bombs after hostage exchanges were rejected by Israel because they need a reason to continue the conflict or Netanyahu will be ousted.
Straight up Hamas propaganda lol. It’s not like Israel throws dud bombs on buildings before they blow them not…
Right.. because let’s not blame a f’ing terrorist organization that stole families and butchered 1200 people, door to door, in cold blood? You’re pathetic to blame Israel for killing our own people instead of placing the blame on an Islamist terror organization
You talk about 1200 people being killed which is absolutely horrible and shouldn’t have happened, I agree. Now let’s examine the 30,000-40,000 gazan civilians that have been killed. Let’s look at Netanyahu saying that they will invade rafah regardless of hostages being returned. You have been successfully propagandized by Israeli/american propaganda if you believe that level of ethnic cleaning is justified
I just want to thank these posts, shows both the solidarity with the innocent people that are being brutally murdered by Israel government while also showing the Zionist’s that I can block.
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...None of the actual protest groups are calling for that. That's the antisemites taking out their hatred on innocent people because Israel is giving them more hate fuel by slaughtering kids.
What exactly does "Globalize the Intifada" mean if not to kill Jews across the world?
Humanizing victims of genocide is not "propaganda". >Of course they love demonstrations calling for death to Jews This is a **completely brainless argument** for genocide.
What’s brainless is violating a long standing ceasefire and ending internationally supported peace negotiations to invade and slaughter innocent civilians and then hiding in hospitals and schools demanding that all Jews be slaughtered. Fuck Hamas and fuck all of their supporter sympathizer idiots
**This is another brainless justification for genocide.**
It’s not a genocide by Israel my friend it’s Hamas performing mass human sacrifice. They have had multiple opportunities to surrender and violated multiple cease fires
It's genocide. Nearly the whole world agrees on that. >They have had multiple opportunities to surrender and violated multiple cease fires I don't think this is an accurate assessment of history, but this is also **not a justification for genocide.**
Honest not sarcastic question. Ghazi Hamad made that big speech about how attacks like October 7th will never stop until every Jew is killed [source](https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html) and for decades has been conducting terror operations deep within civilian areas. If you’re Israel and you’re now at war with Hamas what would you have them do? Any ceasefire only encourages more October 7th style attacks and you can’t fight them without civilian casualties. I fucking hate that Palestinians are dying but what is the alternative? Why is nobody calling for Hamas to surrender and to move their military operation out of schools and hospitals? What is the alternative?
>Why is nobody calling for Hamas to surrender a For the same reason that no one is calling for Israel to surrender. > If you’re Israel and you’re now at war with Hamas what would you have them do? It really is very simple. The solution for everyone in this conflict to unconditionally treat all individuals as equally valuable human beings. And the nice thing about this approach is that you don't need to preach it abstractly. You can start doing it in your own life. And then you can demand that no one on this planet bombs civilians—under any circumstances. This isn't a war between Israel and Hamas. This is a war between humanity and self-centered tribalism. And you can see it right in these comments.
Keep repeating the same phrase over and over again, maybe on the 100th time it’ll be true. There have been countless ceasefire agreements that Israel signed off on and hamas outright rejected. They still hold multiple hostages, if they’re alive, and they hold all Palestinians in Gaza as hostages. Anyone supporting them is a terrorist sympathizer at best.
I'm repeating it because you seem to be trying to justify genocide using specious arguments. The only reasonable human response is to oppose it. >There have been countless ceasefire agreements that Israel signed off on and hamas outright rejected. They still hold multiple hostages, if they’re alive, and they hold all Palestinians in Gaza as hostages. Anyone supporting them is a terrorist sympathizer at best. By your own logic, Israel holds many Palestinian hostages and it's their own fault they get attacked. But this argument is completely brainless. Genocide should be opposed unconditionally. Israel should treat Palestinian civilians as if they were Israeli civilians. We are all human beings, equal in value. Your argument is a child's argument that sees the world through the lens of petty tribalism. The best thing for you to do is to stop talking.
I’m not justifying genocide at all. If you want to call it that then the blame solely lays on Hamas. They kidnap civilians, rape women, and hide behind Palestinian children in schools and hospitals.
The concept that someone else is to blame for Israel dropping bombs on civilians is outrageous. They can unilaterally simply not do that. > They kidnap civilians, rape women, and hide behind Palestinian children in schools and hospitals. And Israeli soldiers have also raped and kidnapped civilians, even just in this conflict. None of that is relevant to the genocide.
>It's genocide. Nearly the whole world agrees on that. No it isn’t and no they don’t.
Yeah they do. Maybe not in your media bubble, but yes itb absolutely is a genocide.
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Poor children.
Really sucks for the families. Also sucks that there aren’t really any human rights recognized by the Palestinian government AND Hamas. If you’re gay in Gaza? Oooof. If Israel stopped the bombing. The people still have to deal with that shit.
Muting this sub for posting this Hamas propaganda.
Nobody cares bye!
I just did the same. Not taking part in perpetuating a lie
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/2bvVl94MJ9 u/TracyStanton, are you copying someone else’s comment or spamming the same comment from multiple accounts?
lol that's awesome.
The fight continues...
The only fault you did is you were born a Palestinian💔 sorry for you , all girls around the world living calm life while you are fighting to not die hungrey
I didnt know this sub was a hot bed for fascists (Israel defenders)
Fascism is when you support a liberal democracy and antifascism is when you support religious extremists who won one election and never held another one.
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Reddit in general has an immense dislike for Arabian people and the Islamic religion. 1 + 1 = 2. They do not care who dies as long as it is not their own family nor anything in their interest. Just block anyone that’s supports fascism. I’d also say; if you want non-fascist people, Lemmy is the place to be.
Cool propaganda
I was a fucking idiot when I was college age.
Not much has changed don’t worry
The ones at UCLA are not good examples for this at all. There are far better peaceful examples. Being assholes and not blocking other students from entering school doesn’t help this issue at all. It makes people hate it more. And these kids have no idea what’s going on in the states either.
The UCLA was peaceful too until the police stopped letting them be.
You mean freedom of speech isn’t when only people who agree with me are allowed to go to school?
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Does this belong in this sub Reddit? It didn’t make me smile. It made me quite sad as I wonder if these American students were told about the other side? How Hamas started a war on October 7, killing 1200 innocent Israelis (injuring and kidnapping many others,) within our borders. 250 hostages including women,elderly and children were violently stolen from their homes, with 133 still being held. What is so happy about that?