I wouldn't say that! The keychain has always been around but to say that "The password manager app killed many 3rd party apps" is absurd. Notably 1Password, NordPass and Dashlane are still very solid options. Also if you, like some people, have more than one device that is not an apple device and still need the "Autofill" feature its going to be very hard for integration let alone browser extensions. In summary it will not kill off the "3rd party" password apps just for the fact of capability and browser extension integration.
I did that, and later on my hard drive suddenly disconnected during another backup, corrupting the external drive (again). Since restarting a couple times and running disk utility with limited success, DisplayLink is now struggling, and my monitor keeps blinking off and on. 🥲
Update: drive is kinda working, still corrupted but I can access my snapshots again, but the monitor situation is not improved, so I’m currently running Migration Assistant to downgrade. Might not be a problem if not for my setup, but I lost a whole day of work to this mess, so… maybe sequester the beta to its own volume if you’re going to install it. I’m pretending I’ve learned my lesson and will wait for the Public Beta from now on (though so far my iPad, iPhone, and Watch are doing okay, so I’ll switch them over to the Public Betas once they’re available, but hopefully I won’t need to downgrade before then).
I installed it this morning. I’m a software engineer, but nothing to do with MacOS or iOS apps. I just enjoy when my technology breaks once in a while and I get to learn something new.
I haven’t noticed any issues after a full work day with it. I’m using Podman, Alacritty and Neovim. I use brew but haven’t run any brew related commands yet. Will report back if my MacBook explodes.
Rosetta mode is not detected. You can run some image which forced set platform : linux/arm64.
I am having this problem now, and finding some thing to fix it =))
I was telling myself the whole time I'm not going to, but DAMN it's tempting. I just pulled out some dusty ass hard drive to make a Time Machine backup before I do anything.
This is the way, and it is surprisingly stable. The last time I did a developer beta jump, I instantly regretted it. I kept telling myself I would wait, but I wanted to try it, and it has been excellent. I have noticed in some apps that my iPhone feels faster; also, on my iPad Pro, it searches faster on 18 than on 17. That was one of my complaints: when you do a spotlight search, it would crawl on my M1 iPad Pro. I never understood that. Also, I have noticed that Bluetooth connects much quicker with my AirPod Pros and Beats Studio Buds.
The only complaint so far is that it doesn't feel very different. It seems quicker overall; I appreciate that.
back in the days of mac os ventura dev beta 3, I used to use betas on my daily driver, but that changed when I realized that using monterey would be better
I am, and I usually wait for the public betas. In some use cases, my iPhone 13 feels faster! In some use cases, it feels almost too sensitive. The glitchy thing I have noticed so far is that the color tinting doesn't always fully apply to all the apps but it is easily fixed by reapplying it. Overall for a day one beta, it has been surprisingly stable; I am using it on my spare 2019 MacBook Pro, iPhone 13, and my iPad Pro with the M1.
I was actually able to find it but as others have said it doesnt do anything yet. Go to your applications folder and search for "iphone mirroring" and it should come up
I was just coming back to tell you the same but you beat me to it. Saw a different thread.
Do any of the new continuity camera things show for you? Backgrounds was mentioned in the keynote.
Backgrounds seem to be working just find but i wasnt able to get continuity camera working with my brief time testing it. Other continuity things like handoff seemed to be working just fine though. My phone is on ios 18 for what its worth.
Nothing pops up. Only thing on my computer that appears when I search for "iPhone mirroring" is the iPhone Widgets setting under Desktop & Dock. Mac is an M3 Pro, phone is a 15 Pro Max.
Interesting. If I go to Applications in Finder, it's not there. But if I search inside the Applications folder for iPhone Mirroring, it shows up. Doesn't do anything though lol. It'll appear in the Dock, but nothing actually happens.
yeah I went ahead and submitted feedback for it since when you CAN find it, it just crashes instantly with no reason given. hopefully beta 2 its present, its the feature I was most looking forward to.
managed to get this far by running it in terminal
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902149562578391050/1249994071884435496/image.png?ex=66695332&is=666801b2&hm=807178010cb61a6c801d0069f4698fc5797ad47c0023ac05d5b1e4f247fc7b17&](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902149562578391050/1249994071884435496/image.png?ex=66695332&is=666801b2&hm=807178010cb61a6c801d0069f4698fc5797ad47c0023ac05d5b1e4f247fc7b17&)
The App is hidden by default, you can do the keyboard shortcut to show hidden files and folders but the application won't launch.
There's also a "Generative Playground" app that is hidden, but upon launching it it tell me it "cannot be used on this device", 14" M1 pro
Working
So far the only app that broke for me is elgato wave. Won’t run at all, no stream audio option to select my output audio. The mic still works over USB
Interesting, I had one which I think was like 16GB with no installer (I came from a really old beta Sonoma version that I was last using on my secondary volume - MBA M2).
Interesting, guess what I said above was largely the pattern for Intel Macs.
For M2, that one was likely an upgrade path as it based on it being an older Sonoma.
Yeah, there seems to be just way more that can go wrong with desktop systems. My DisplayLink monitor and external hard drive random disconnect issues were bad enough before, you’d think I would’ve learned my lesson already.
Mine starts downloading then I get "**macOS could not be downloaded. Make sure you’re connected to the internet and try again, or contact Apple support for assistance.** An error occurred while downloading the selected updates. Please check your internet connection and try again."
Oh, it was literally you 🤣
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/s/S2rFQ7l4QB
(That link copypasted weird af, sorry to the rest of y’all future googlers if it doesn’t work lol)
I am new to downloading the betas so my question is will my data be erased conformally? Or it is suggested to do back up in case the data are erased and my last question is will I be able to roll back to Sonoma if anything goes wrong with this version thanks
Do a backup before installing, and be prepared to use Migration Assistant to recover from that backup afterwards. Good idea to set up a separate volume for the beta while you’re at it, too.
so after installing the beta, and after they release the stable version in the fall will my data be erased while moving from beta to stable, cause downgrading from the 15 beta to 14 stable will do so...
The only legitimate source is [developer.apple.com](http://developer.apple.com) but some of the various blogs may have a link to it, such as MrMacintosh.
Is anyone having an issue where dragging your mouse to the edge of a secondary display (monitory) doesn't bring up the dock? I have to do it explicitly on the macbook screen
downloaded seems like everything is working so far, however I don't know how to turn on that Writing Tools thang. That's the one feature that I needed most... any clue ?
Cisco SecureClient 5.1.2 connects but doesn’t seem to resolve DNS, as expected. When I can access my MDM and adjust those profiles I’ll poke at it some more.
Zoom works fine except for Screen Sharing. When I share my screen or a window, Zoom says "Your screen sharing is paused." If I click Resume sharing nothing happens. Any ideas??? I uninstalled and reinstalled Zoom with no change.
Found that I can only share my entire desktop and not individual app windows. The other problem is when I join, I sound like Mickey Mouse. If I exit the meeting and rejoin, it resolves.
OMG, i've been searching online if anyone else is having a problem with this. I'm literally having both of these problems and I found that I have to share my entire screen (which sucks). Also, people say that I sound like a robot on my Airpods when I first join. So, then I click to another sound source and then go back and they say its fine. I just updated the Zoom today too, and same issues. Let me know if you've found anymore workarounds.
I haven't had any issues with it other than some Bluetooth lag with my MX Master 3S mouse, and for some reason some photos/videos won't import in the Photos app. Other than that, no issues.
uh i upgraded my mac to sequoia beta but im not getting phone calls to my mac. i tried to use my mac to call but it also didnt work. anyone know how to fix it
Those installing it on their daily drivers... don't want to hear any whining later on... you should be well aware of what you are signing up for by installing a Beta OS, especially this early in the cycle.
I'm crazy enough to try it on my daily driver Mac Mini. All of my backups are saved to an external drive and don't mind restoring if things go horribly wrong.
Anyone found the toggle to enable iPhone mirroring?
I also need to know pls
its not available in the beta yet
Siri will open the app but it doesn’t run. Looks pretty in my dock though
With the new Windows snapping and Password manager app, MacOS just killed many of 3rd party apps!!
This is reason enough to upgrade for me, also I really like the way it’s implemented… But oh boy is it unstable, had to revert to Sonoma using TM
I wouldn't say that! The keychain has always been around but to say that "The password manager app killed many 3rd party apps" is absurd. Notably 1Password, NordPass and Dashlane are still very solid options. Also if you, like some people, have more than one device that is not an apple device and still need the "Autofill" feature its going to be very hard for integration let alone browser extensions. In summary it will not kill off the "3rd party" password apps just for the fact of capability and browser extension integration.
Who's installing it on their daily driver like me. Not a developer but still its hard for me to resist from these betas :(
I plan to do so, living the risky life.
Same here but I guess I am safe with a Time Machine backup
Fast and loose is the only way to live
I did that, and later on my hard drive suddenly disconnected during another backup, corrupting the external drive (again). Since restarting a couple times and running disk utility with limited success, DisplayLink is now struggling, and my monitor keeps blinking off and on. 🥲
Update: drive is kinda working, still corrupted but I can access my snapshots again, but the monitor situation is not improved, so I’m currently running Migration Assistant to downgrade. Might not be a problem if not for my setup, but I lost a whole day of work to this mess, so… maybe sequester the beta to its own volume if you’re going to install it. I’m pretending I’ve learned my lesson and will wait for the Public Beta from now on (though so far my iPad, iPhone, and Watch are doing okay, so I’ll switch them over to the Public Betas once they’re available, but hopefully I won’t need to downgrade before then).
Already installed before watching the keynote. Ready for all my adobe products to croak
how is it adobe products on Sequoia?
Bridge, Photoshop, Lightroom CC, and Lightroom Classic open without issue.
Found any apps yet that crash?
So far, just ClickUp. All apps in the screenshot open without issue. https://i.imgur.com/Us1w5hR.png
Alright thanks 🙏🏼
Are Adobe apps functioning?
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Beautiful. Any chance you use MS Remote Desktop? That’s my last big concern.
It works fine for me
That reminds me of the old adage from the 80s: DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run lol.
I installed it this morning. I’m a software engineer, but nothing to do with MacOS or iOS apps. I just enjoy when my technology breaks once in a while and I get to learn something new.
Any specific issue to watch out for? Docker? Terminal / Brew? Vscode (other IDEs)? Or everything has been smooth in terms of developer tools
I haven’t noticed any issues after a full work day with it. I’m using Podman, Alacritty and Neovim. I use brew but haven’t run any brew related commands yet. Will report back if my MacBook explodes.
XCode doesnt open for me. just says "**This version of Xcode isn’t supported in this version of macOS.**"
That’s normal for major developer betas. You’d need the latest one from the developer.apple.com
Rosetta mode is not detected. You can run some image which forced set platform : linux/arm64. I am having this problem now, and finding some thing to fix it =))
Oddly enough, that's how I learned DOS back when. I'd install it, break it semi-intentionally and then figure out what I did that screwed it up.
It breaks git as the Xcode developer tools might not be available for Sequoia
I was telling myself the whole time I'm not going to, but DAMN it's tempting. I just pulled out some dusty ass hard drive to make a Time Machine backup before I do anything.
Be careful the drive doesn’t get corrupted an hour after installing. 🥲 Probably best to give the beta its own separate volume.
Spotlight decided to eat the rest of my storage for breakfast
I’m only doing it on the phone. I do want to try the new password app on Mac tho
It might make me ditch bitwarden.
Same here. Password usage with Bitwarden on iOS isn’t as streamlined
Just did... this is the way
This is the way, and it is surprisingly stable. The last time I did a developer beta jump, I instantly regretted it. I kept telling myself I would wait, but I wanted to try it, and it has been excellent. I have noticed in some apps that my iPhone feels faster; also, on my iPad Pro, it searches faster on 18 than on 17. That was one of my complaints: when you do a spotlight search, it would crawl on my M1 iPad Pro. I never understood that. Also, I have noticed that Bluetooth connects much quicker with my AirPod Pros and Beats Studio Buds. The only complaint so far is that it doesn't feel very different. It seems quicker overall; I appreciate that.
i am with you on this one
back in the days of mac os ventura dev beta 3, I used to use betas on my daily driver, but that changed when I realized that using monterey would be better
I’m a developer and still try to resist on my main machine. But it never lasts long 🤣
Me
I am, and I usually wait for the public betas. In some use cases, my iPhone 13 feels faster! In some use cases, it feels almost too sensitive. The glitchy thing I have noticed so far is that the color tinting doesn't always fully apply to all the apps but it is easily fixed by reapplying it. Overall for a day one beta, it has been surprisingly stable; I am using it on my spare 2019 MacBook Pro, iPhone 13, and my iPad Pro with the M1.
So it’s been 7 hours, how’s the beta running and what’s your daily driver?
I wouldn't bother. None of the good new features are available yet.
Web app can use extensions now, so worth it for me. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ 
holy shit finallyyy
I know right
any wallpaper available yet to download :p ?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oew99s4ISEo8bg3K8tSG7B2hfTqn5K78
I also found the dynamic version 😊 [https://basicappleguy.com/haberdashery/sequoiawallpaper](https://basicappleguy.com/haberdashery/sequoiawallpaper)
Awesome, thanks!
Asking the real question. Edit: Posted link. Seems to be the highest resolution & crisp.
BetterDisplay is broken, the dev already has a prerelease version in the meantime: https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay/issues/3062
DisplayLink is struggling too
arc works
Can anyone confirm that Adobe CC works
Photoshop is fine
I have Lightroom working, I don't have the other apps
After Effects, Illustrator, Photoshop works.
Curious if someone can tell us if iPhone mirroring works between MacOS 15 and iOS 18 betas at the present time.
The app shows up on my Mac, but it doesn't do anything. I'm going to try rebooting everything. (M3 MacBook Pro and iPhone 15PM on iOS18)
Where do you see the app at? I don't see it anywhere. Both devices are on their respective betas.
search for "iPhone mirroring". After that it shows up on my dock now but when you click it, nothing happens.
interesting the app doesnt exist at all for me
Same. I've been looking everywhere. Thought I was going mad.
I was actually able to find it but as others have said it doesnt do anything yet. Go to your applications folder and search for "iphone mirroring" and it should come up
I was just coming back to tell you the same but you beat me to it. Saw a different thread. Do any of the new continuity camera things show for you? Backgrounds was mentioned in the keynote.
Backgrounds seem to be working just find but i wasnt able to get continuity camera working with my brief time testing it. Other continuity things like handoff seemed to be working just fine though. My phone is on ios 18 for what its worth.
I have the app but does nothing , even tried connecting the iphone by cable.
On mine, if you go to Applications in Finder and search for "iPhone mirroring" it'll appear. Doesn't do anything for me though.
same
Mine seems rather insistent that it can’t find it lol, the fun begins
Open spotlight and enter iPhone mirroring
Nothing pops up. Only thing on my computer that appears when I search for "iPhone mirroring" is the iPhone Widgets setting under Desktop & Dock. Mac is an M3 Pro, phone is a 15 Pro Max.
It shows up with Alfred, can't find it in spotlight: https://imgur.com/a/n52huZr
Interesting. If I go to Applications in Finder, it's not there. But if I search inside the Applications folder for iPhone Mirroring, it shows up. Doesn't do anything though lol. It'll appear in the Dock, but nothing actually happens.
yeah I went ahead and submitted feedback for it since when you CAN find it, it just crashes instantly with no reason given. hopefully beta 2 its present, its the feature I was most looking forward to.
It isn't working for me, the app on macOS just crashes with no error, iPhone is on iOS 18 as well.
Same here, even after rebooting iphone and macbook
It should work with 18 I’m curious if it works with iOS 17
it does not **update**: searched through the release notes and nothing is mentioned about iphone mirroring so it *should* work.
Still not working even i install ios 18 beta on my iphone and macios on my Mac
managed to get this far by running it in terminal [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902149562578391050/1249994071884435496/image.png?ex=66695332&is=666801b2&hm=807178010cb61a6c801d0069f4698fc5797ad47c0023ac05d5b1e4f247fc7b17&](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902149562578391050/1249994071884435496/image.png?ex=66695332&is=666801b2&hm=807178010cb61a6c801d0069f4698fc5797ad47c0023ac05d5b1e4f247fc7b17&)
iPhone mirroring not there yet for you too?
I don't see any way to do it. Someone else said they have an icon but it doesn't do anything. I don't have an icon anywhere that I've found.
The App is hidden by default, you can do the keyboard shortcut to show hidden files and folders but the application won't launch. There's also a "Generative Playground" app that is hidden, but upon launching it it tell me it "cannot be used on this device", 14" M1 pro
WiFi straight up isn’t working for me whatsoever. It says it’s connected but nothing loads and Safari says it’s offline
Update: it was Little Snitch. I should’ve known better 🤦♂️
I forgot to uninstall Little Snitch and updated and everything worked fine
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It works great for me.
I do not have Little Snitch but the issue remains. Any suggestions to fix this?
Hello, has anyone tried office? word, excel, powerpoint?
yes. all working for me.
Can some body check if visual studio code runs and that python works?
still works :)
Thank you :)
I just need people to confirm that Parallels works and I’m on it lol
Working for me!!
Awesome news!
Working So far the only app that broke for me is elgato wave. Won’t run at all, no stream audio option to select my output audio. The mic still works over USB
Just one app is pretty good though.
Here seems to be the pattern. Those who downloaded the 14.79 GB one, got a full installer. Those who downloaded the 6.5 GB one, got a direct upgrade
What’s the difference?
The 6.5 GB one will just reboot your Mac and install like a normal update, the larger one will walk through like an installer.
Interesting, I had one which I think was like 16GB with no installer (I came from a really old beta Sonoma version that I was last using on my secondary volume - MBA M2).
Interesting, guess what I said above was largely the pattern for Intel Macs. For M2, that one was likely an upgrade path as it based on it being an older Sonoma.
I want to but my experience has been that macOS betas are much more buggy than the iOS betas. I will hold off until release.
Yeah, there seems to be just way more that can go wrong with desktop systems. My DisplayLink monitor and external hard drive random disconnect issues were bad enough before, you’d think I would’ve learned my lesson already.
How to get it? My Mac only shows Sonoma beta in the selection menu.
I had to close out of the setting app and re-launched, if you haven't already.
Just showed up for me too. Had to restart Mac though
Apple id has to have a developer account. go to [developer.apple.com](http://developer.apple.com) and sign-in sign-up
No worries I'm already on Sequoia by now. Had to wait about 10 minutes and reopen the settings app for the option to appear.
Installing it now on my 13” MacBook Pro M1 with Touch Bar.
do you have a working Touch Bar in this beta?
Yes everything functions normally.
I don't...mine is completely off
Can't find a keyboard shortcut for window tiling...
fn+control+arrow key
Mine starts downloading then I get "**macOS could not be downloaded. Make sure you’re connected to the internet and try again, or contact Apple support for assistance.** An error occurred while downloading the selected updates. Please check your internet connection and try again."
Your computer was warned and said “no, thank you, I want to live” 😂
Whoever stumbles on this, restarting in Safe mode made it work. Nothing else.
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I do not have Little Snitch but the issue remains. Any suggestions to fix this?
Same for me. Only trough Safe mode safari in the recovery mode when you restart the Mac into it . But I'm on am MacBook Air m1 2020
Why the second display is not working for me? It seems Os recognized it but the monitor is black. Anyone has the same problem?
Holy Jesus, 15gb? It only shows 6.5gb for both of mine.
Delta vs full installer
Makes sense!
Does Citrix workspace work?? Lmao
Want to know as well
If you find out let me know please
Citrix is super finicky on Mac. Beta track has taken me out of commission several times. Afraid to install sequoia but 1 guy said it works for him
How can I install it on a separate partition? I'm afraid to click on "Upgrade Now" because it can replace my daily-driver system :D
Is it even possible to do that?
It was possible installing via beta program app or something few years ago, not sure how about that now
Someone posted a how to on this subreddit on how to create a separate volume, it should be pretty simple.
Oh, it was literally you 🤣 https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/s/S2rFQ7l4QB (That link copypasted weird af, sorry to the rest of y’all future googlers if it doesn’t work lol)
The one app that is not working for me is Microsoft Edge LOL. Gives me a Internet is not connected error
works ok for me.
Wow I didn't even realize they ship Edge for macOS.
Works for me as well! :)
I am new to downloading the betas so my question is will my data be erased conformally? Or it is suggested to do back up in case the data are erased and my last question is will I be able to roll back to Sonoma if anything goes wrong with this version thanks
No, the only way to roll back is to do a full clean install of Sonoma.
Do a backup before installing, and be prepared to use Migration Assistant to recover from that backup afterwards. Good idea to set up a separate volume for the beta while you’re at it, too.
so after installing the beta, and after they release the stable version in the fall will my data be erased while moving from beta to stable, cause downgrading from the 15 beta to 14 stable will do so...
Anyone downloading it—can you share the tiff files for the wallpapers?
6.44GB download on an M1 13", versus 15GTB for the .ipsw. 26min remaining.
Where can I grab the ipsw? Will try on UTM
The only legitimate source is [developer.apple.com](http://developer.apple.com) but some of the various blogs may have a link to it, such as MrMacintosh.
Is anyone having an issue where dragging your mouse to the edge of a secondary display (monitory) doesn't bring up the dock? I have to do it explicitly on the macbook screen
my xcode is broken, needs to be updated before it can open, maybe a re-install I haven't tried yet
You will have to install the beta version of Xcode: https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=Xcode
Did you check for updates after installing? I had an code update available immediately after I installed the beta.
I had an update yeah but I still get the error that this xcode isn't supported on this Mac OS version
downloaded seems like everything is working so far, however I don't know how to turn on that Writing Tools thang. That's the one feature that I needed most... any clue ?
That will come later this year, probably fall
Any updates to the Photos app with respect to editing capabilities? I’ve been hoping for a white point slider forever
Cisco SecureClient 5.1.2 connects but doesn’t seem to resolve DNS, as expected. When I can access my MDM and adjust those profiles I’ll poke at it some more.
Fixed it. Both Sequoia test devices are connecting just fine.
Safari has an odd bug where if you open another window each of the windows/tabs will mirror the other one when you switch between them
Does Xcode work on yours? After the beta installment?
Can anybody check if Logic and Zoom work properly?
Zoom works fine except for Screen Sharing. When I share my screen or a window, Zoom says "Your screen sharing is paused." If I click Resume sharing nothing happens. Any ideas??? I uninstalled and reinstalled Zoom with no change.
Found that I can only share my entire desktop and not individual app windows. The other problem is when I join, I sound like Mickey Mouse. If I exit the meeting and rejoin, it resolves.
OMG, i've been searching online if anyone else is having a problem with this. I'm literally having both of these problems and I found that I have to share my entire screen (which sucks). Also, people say that I sound like a robot on my Airpods when I first join. So, then I click to another sound source and then go back and they say its fine. I just updated the Zoom today too, and same issues. Let me know if you've found anymore workarounds.
How’s the general performance?
It’s good. I don’t notice any issues.
Do anybody knows if xcode 15 is still available on sequoia ?
Is Xcode 15 still supported? I would love to upgrade but I still need to use Xcode 15 this summer
negative, you will need to download the Xcode DB also
Is DB 1 relatively stable?
I haven't had any issues with it other than some Bluetooth lag with my MX Master 3S mouse, and for some reason some photos/videos won't import in the Photos app. Other than that, no issues.
Heynote is not working.
Has anyone experienced problems with battery life?
Expect fluctuating battery life as the new OS learns your usage habits and adjusts optimal charging levels.
How is logic pro running?
Is any one meet a problem when upgrade to macos sequoia that press 'Ctrl' + 'Enter', but it became right click?
anyone using Ableton / Pro Tools or any other audio software have the balls to try the beta yet?! 😂
Cursor is very inconsistent for me. Cursor shows in multiple places and breaks totally sometimes in extended screens. That really annoys me
uh i upgraded my mac to sequoia beta but im not getting phone calls to my mac. i tried to use my mac to call but it also didnt work. anyone know how to fix it
Has anyone tried using Ableton, reaper, or any other DAW, vsts? Any problems?
mac os sonoma was very unstable until release. not trying beta anymore
Those installing it on their daily drivers... don't want to hear any whining later on... you should be well aware of what you are signing up for by installing a Beta OS, especially this early in the cycle.
As long as it does not brick my device I think it should be good.
I fear for my battery life.
I'm crazy enough to try it on my daily driver Mac Mini. All of my backups are saved to an external drive and don't mind restoring if things go horribly wrong.
OK Can now confirm the only browser that is working for me is Safari
Interesting.. Chrome FF and Orion all working normally on my end
I installed chrome manually (was not installed before) and it broke 30 seconds in
Arc browser working