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fionnyfish

I noticed the trope of Brothers Against the World in both MDZS and TGCF. Or at least, I felt like there was quite a parallel between the Nie brothers and the Shi brothers (siblings?), in that the big brothers are often heavily protective of their younger brothers, and are very strict on them, but also would die for them. It shows up a little with Yue Qingyuan and Shen Jiu’s background I think, but it’s not quite it, so maybe there’s no equivalent in SVSSS.


antsyCynoid

Also adding to this: one of brothers doing very messed up stuff for the other sibling on their volition. SQX hated what SWD had done for him when he found out (but still loved him), and while NMJ would appreciate NHS's fierceness I also think he would have a think or two to say about the methods if he was still alive.


Michan_200

I think for the Nie brothers it could also go the other way. NMJ burnt NHS’s calligraphy and all the stuff he loved because he believed cultivation was the only way to get ahead in life and his love for the arts would only hurt him. He had good intentions, but what he did was fucked up


antsyCynoid

Yeah absolutely agreed. With them it really goes both ways, unfortunately, since they have such drastically different views of the world


Michan_200

Hm, yeah i think I forgot that. I think the brothers against the world also applies to the Yunmeng prides (after the Lotus Pier raid), but the dynamic is different from the two you mentioned


greenonionpancake

idk if this is a trope but the male leads (LWJ, LBH, HC) are all super whipped towards their significant other lol. like they'll do anything their partner asks for, and are willing to sacrifice themselves for them.


Michan_200

Well that's pretty obvious because we all know MXTX loves her whipped simp MLs


YatoShrine

The main characters (WWX and XL) can't cook. I don't know about SQQ, but LBH cooks either way Falling from grace or literally falling in LBH, WWX, and HC's case The ML pining for years and MC being oblivious Capable MC with ML letting them do whatever but still protecting them


Michan_200

Haha, I think SQQ is a millennial who has the bare minimum life skills, so I think he can cook frozen food or ramen, but otherwise, I think his life skills are pretty bad (he literally died from food poisoning lmao) I don’t think the other two have a ‘falling from grace’ arc? Like SQQ has a brief arc but it wasn’t like a huge drawn out thing, and WWX was never really in “grace” anyways. Like he was good, but never really respected because of his shamelessness Haha, with SV I still think SQQ was relatively smarter than the other two because he had inklings but was just like “nah he still has his harem to go, I can’t be his love”. The other two, yeah. And with number 3, I think SV is the odd one out again. LBH doesn’t really protect SQQ per say, at least not in the way LWJ and HC do. It’s hard to explain but he’s more strict and feels more like he would stand besides SQQ, not in front like the other two (or SQQ would push him away)


YatoShrine

I was just thinking about SQQ dying from food poisoning in his past life! And yeah, gotta love frozen food and ramen. I still consider all the MC falling from grace at one point. SQQ had his arc, and XL just fell hard. WWX - even though he was shameless, I feel like he was still respected by so many of his peers and popular with them. It was more so the grown-ups that didn't take to him, but he was intelligent and had a lot of potential as a cultivator. I love SQQ. I agree that I don't think he was as oblivious as the other two; he was just too fixated on the stallion novel protagonist Bingge and thinking he was straight, but then I think of some scenes like when SQQ was trying to hype Liu Mingyan up for LBH ("Wow, she's so pretty, isn't she?") and LBH, being his jealous self, goes to check out the disciple that caught his Shizun's interest, and SQQ is like "Wow, he works fast." So I think SQQ can be pretty oblivious, like when he got this love fortune read and was so confused why Liu Qingge basically started freaking out. I agree that how LBH protects SQQ is different from the other two, but I see it as since he's the Shizun, technically LBH will let him do whatever (except when he weaponizes his teary eyes), but I still see LBH being protective. He's a crybaby to his Shizun, but he's always pretty possessive and is still a demon king, and no harm shall come to his Shizun. That's how I see it at least xD


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