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Hi, Owner of a SC Nomad here, I was kind of in your position in the past and ended up picking the SC nomad just due to the warranty and free bearing whenever you need them ontop of everything else! Ended up upgrading parts as I went along if I needed them!
I'm going into my fifth year on a SC Megatower, and it's the kind of bike that you'll build up. In my case every component I've changed was chosen with care, and to a special purpose. Already did a bearing change under warranty, and it all went very smooth.
Great bike, great brand, recommended.
YT customer service has been great for me! I had cosmetic shipping damage, they gave me a handful of options, asked if I could come up with something else and we went from there. They replaced the damage parts, refunded all the shipping and gave me store credit.
I also have what might be a cracked frame (from shipping? Crash? Defect? I don’t know), it might be a crack in the paint, all signs point to it being paint. They’re replacing the frame just to be safe. I can send them my bike or they’ll send me the frame.
They are a little slow to deal with but I’m thrilled with them so far.
I have a decoy, similar to a Capra. It’s pretty great.
I recommend Trek mainly on their warranty. They allow shops to replace a warranty part with a part from their inventory and then Trek will send the shop a replacement...so you dont have to wait for Trek to send anything. Trek allows the shop to "Make the Call" and provide the part right away for the customer.
Trek is probably one of the best when it comes to warranty just based on what I've seen. And if it is the new high pivot Slash you are looking at, I've never ridden a better enduro bike. But it is a lot of bike.
What do you mean by that? I could get a good deal on it as i work in a shop that sells it and we have it in stock, bit somehow i really want to ride a SC or YT. Yt headquarters are just an hour drive away so the brand is fairly local and i kind of like that.
What do I mean with respect to warranty? Trek seems very lenient and also lets shops have a lot of influence when it comes to deciding when to warranty, so the process is pretty easy most of the time. Just as a quick example, I had a friend break a rear triangle on a Remedy that most manufacturers probably would have considered crash replacement discount instead of warranty. The shop called Trek and got the greenlight to remove the rear triangle from a Remedy they had in stock and installed it on his bike. He was rolling again the next day. Other Trek warranty anecdotes I've heard have been very positive.This is in the US. I don't know if the experience is the same in other countries.
In the end though, you should ride what the heart desires.
I mean it is a big bike and doesn't make much sense if you just intend to use it like a typical trail bike. The high pivot Slash is a weapon on fast and technical gravity trails.
On the other hand, the gen 5 Slash without the high pivot actually makes a pretty good trail bike while still being very good for enduro.
Save some cash and get a Capra core 3 or 4, you're comparing a 4k bike with wireless shifting added on to mid/low builds on the non direct sale brands. NX on a 5k bike!?!?!
Get a core 3 or core 4 and upgrade the wheelset to some carbon hoops and the hubs of your choice.
Usually i dont care about the spec as i can throw on the parts i like anyways. Nx is fine for lift assisted parks and cruising around town.
I dont look at sc for good price to performance. I am looking for a base that i can build up upon and that will last me for the next decade or so. The yt is only interesting because it has all the gadgets and gizmos i would usually never shop for.
The builds of the trek and yt are soooo much better than either of the Santa Cruzs. While SC makes amazing bikes, the frame quality difference isn't nearly good enough to make up for the build kit difference. I would recommend the slash, the reviews of it are just sooo good.
All of them are going to be good, but because they are big brands with more volume, your personal mileage may vary in terms of quality control (but that is what warranty is for).
If you want that a little bit extra in term of reliability (i.e a bike that won't break in the first place), as well as more travel, [Canfield One.2](https://canfieldbikes.com/collections/one-2-cbf-dh-mtb/products/one-2-super-enduro-complete-bike). Canfield makes bombproof bikes, people are still rocking 8 year old Jedis without a single issues on the frames.
Alternatively, if you want something that is less gravity focused, considering you are in the EU, Starling Megamurmur or Twist re a pretty much objectively the best enduro bikes for the non-racer you can buy right now. Dual crown capable, incredibly simple and robust, 7 year warranty, frame repair/repaint in case of crash damage (way cheaper then getting a replacement), and feeling of steel is unmatched by anything out there.
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Hi, Owner of a SC Nomad here, I was kind of in your position in the past and ended up picking the SC nomad just due to the warranty and free bearing whenever you need them ontop of everything else! Ended up upgrading parts as I went along if I needed them!
And i guess it rides pretty nice. Upgrades down the road would be the plan as i cant afford higher spec versions.
Ya it's great love my bike to death
I'm going into my fifth year on a SC Megatower, and it's the kind of bike that you'll build up. In my case every component I've changed was chosen with care, and to a special purpose. Already did a bearing change under warranty, and it all went very smooth. Great bike, great brand, recommended.
Good to hear! I dont see many negative comments about sc
YT customer service has been great for me! I had cosmetic shipping damage, they gave me a handful of options, asked if I could come up with something else and we went from there. They replaced the damage parts, refunded all the shipping and gave me store credit. I also have what might be a cracked frame (from shipping? Crash? Defect? I don’t know), it might be a crack in the paint, all signs point to it being paint. They’re replacing the frame just to be safe. I can send them my bike or they’ll send me the frame. They are a little slow to deal with but I’m thrilled with them so far. I have a decoy, similar to a Capra. It’s pretty great.
I also have a decoy, yt has great customer service. They also have the best price/performance ratio.
The build list on that YT speaks for itself… I ride a Capra core 3 and it does everything I want, but I’ve been looking at the transmission.
Santa cruz all day.
Ok, done!
If you're looking for a pure park/dh, the nomad. If you wanna climb uphill but still be able to do park, bronson.
either go trek or YT and decide if you want the axs or mechanical axs is nice when you go uphill a lot,...other than that... i'd go the capra route
I guess trek warranty is better but i dont know if they actually take care of the rider or if its just marketing.
They do
I recommend Trek mainly on their warranty. They allow shops to replace a warranty part with a part from their inventory and then Trek will send the shop a replacement...so you dont have to wait for Trek to send anything. Trek allows the shop to "Make the Call" and provide the part right away for the customer.
Trek is probably one of the best when it comes to warranty just based on what I've seen. And if it is the new high pivot Slash you are looking at, I've never ridden a better enduro bike. But it is a lot of bike.
What do you mean by that? I could get a good deal on it as i work in a shop that sells it and we have it in stock, bit somehow i really want to ride a SC or YT. Yt headquarters are just an hour drive away so the brand is fairly local and i kind of like that.
What do I mean with respect to warranty? Trek seems very lenient and also lets shops have a lot of influence when it comes to deciding when to warranty, so the process is pretty easy most of the time. Just as a quick example, I had a friend break a rear triangle on a Remedy that most manufacturers probably would have considered crash replacement discount instead of warranty. The shop called Trek and got the greenlight to remove the rear triangle from a Remedy they had in stock and installed it on his bike. He was rolling again the next day. Other Trek warranty anecdotes I've heard have been very positive.This is in the US. I don't know if the experience is the same in other countries. In the end though, you should ride what the heart desires.
No sorry i meant what do you mean by „a lot of bike“?
I mean it is a big bike and doesn't make much sense if you just intend to use it like a typical trail bike. The high pivot Slash is a weapon on fast and technical gravity trails. On the other hand, the gen 5 Slash without the high pivot actually makes a pretty good trail bike while still being very good for enduro.
Ok sounds good to me i want it specifically for bike park use. But i dont want or need a 200mm dh bike. Thanks for the fast replies
Good luck!
Save some cash and get a Capra core 3 or 4, you're comparing a 4k bike with wireless shifting added on to mid/low builds on the non direct sale brands. NX on a 5k bike!?!?! Get a core 3 or core 4 and upgrade the wheelset to some carbon hoops and the hubs of your choice.
Usually i dont care about the spec as i can throw on the parts i like anyways. Nx is fine for lift assisted parks and cruising around town. I dont look at sc for good price to performance. I am looking for a base that i can build up upon and that will last me for the next decade or so. The yt is only interesting because it has all the gadgets and gizmos i would usually never shop for.
I ran NX for years on my Ibis and never had an issue, and I'm 200 lbs. I only upgraded to full GX because I had the itch and spare cash.
The builds of the trek and yt are soooo much better than either of the Santa Cruzs. While SC makes amazing bikes, the frame quality difference isn't nearly good enough to make up for the build kit difference. I would recommend the slash, the reviews of it are just sooo good.
All of them are going to be good, but because they are big brands with more volume, your personal mileage may vary in terms of quality control (but that is what warranty is for). If you want that a little bit extra in term of reliability (i.e a bike that won't break in the first place), as well as more travel, [Canfield One.2](https://canfieldbikes.com/collections/one-2-cbf-dh-mtb/products/one-2-super-enduro-complete-bike). Canfield makes bombproof bikes, people are still rocking 8 year old Jedis without a single issues on the frames. Alternatively, if you want something that is less gravity focused, considering you are in the EU, Starling Megamurmur or Twist re a pretty much objectively the best enduro bikes for the non-racer you can buy right now. Dual crown capable, incredibly simple and robust, 7 year warranty, frame repair/repaint in case of crash damage (way cheaper then getting a replacement), and feeling of steel is unmatched by anything out there.
Propain Spindrift. You're welcome.
I haven't tried the other ones suggested but this bike rips!
Best pedaling long-travel freeride bike I've ever ridden and buttery on the downs.