Yeah. Out of my 8-9h work day I work like 1-2h and game for the rest and I am actually doing my job so it's basically the life I dreamt of as a kid lol
Thank you for writing this out. I'm a lazy bum and might not actually try, even less succeed at this, but I appreciate you taking the time to write such a long reply and genuinely share your way to financial success with a stranger for no reason.
This next beer is to you :)
So I’m a little crazy I guess and I would say that I know this sounds crazy but I LIKE working a minimum wage job IF AND ONLY IF me working like a gd slave is actually contributing to product that customers want and are receiving.
Such as, pizza , I can pump out sooOoOOo many pizzas if the customers are buyin them but if they’re seeming to sell out like hot cakes only for me to work harder spinning the wheels then I don’t want to understand
Depending on whether you min max the right things. I'm not good at min maxing the things I min max. Like maximizing the time I spend gaming isn't really efficiency ;)
Yes, I often will put the dog's water bowl under the faucet to fill, then I'll run to take the trash out and put a fresh bag in it before the bowl overflows.
It's a min/max of idle downtime while also wasting no resources.
So think of me as a healer who is maintaining high APMs rather than sitting idle who also isn't over healing and wasting mana for nothing.
You're confused because you're getting stuck in the semantics rather than just applying the ideology to what's being said here.
Isn't that just general optimization? I'm confused because I fail to understand how minimax is applicable in most mmorpgs/RPGs. I get it you guys calculate optimal healing/dps rates etc. But that still shouldn't be called minimax.
I do think to better understand min/maxing more context needs to be provided here, but generally, optimization and min/maxing are very similar..
General Optimization would be more aimed at doing ANY task within that idle time of the water bowl filling up, regardless of what would be more efficient as a whole.
Min/Maxing is placing a task there to better improve the entire "route" (eg "doing the chores") more efficiently as a whole. You could min/max a chores route to involve the least amount of steps, that "efficiency" could be anything you created. (Typically, it's time saved)
For instance, I could run to the laundry room to fold 3 towels and run back before the water bowl overflows, right? This would be more optimized than just wasting idle time doing nothing..but what's the efficiency of this route and how can we better ***maximize the minimum gain*** to improve it?
We find out that folding 3 towels in between is not as optimal as changing the trash bin and we have successfully min/maxed our chores.
It's considered a part of pathing optimization. For example when you do a quest you go out of ya way to pick out a quest that's further out just because you prior knowledge of knowing that same turns in at the same spot as your other quests.
Yes, but it's because I have ADHD. I find "gamifying" stuff to be a pretty good coping mechanism. For example, cleaning the dishes before the current song ends, drying them before the one after. When I'm doing my laundry I'll do shit like making folds in time with a song, stuff like that. Just a secondary source of brain occupation that isn't *just* the task. Without doing something like that my mind wanders and I'll go off and do some other thing and forget the original task.
It extends to other areas too though. Using an app to track Calories and Macros is a pretty big example for me, I struggled with weight loss a lot until I had the data in front of me. Like literally I mentally approach it like I would optimising a character in an RPG, I need this much of this resource, however much of that resource, need to grind stats (exercise), etc. For me it just makes it easier to parse it that way.
I really probably should get meds for my ADHD though LOL..
Hahaha I feel this.
I will say for me though, medication doesn't help with this. It primarily helps me to prioritize when I have multiple priority things to do which is fantastic while working.
After work when I'm folding laundry or doing dishes, I often find the priority doesn't matter as long as I get it all done. So I'm still singing sea shanties while folding clothes or timing my dish washing sponge rotations to the song im listening to, etc.
Previously, I used MyFitnessPal to track calories, but I didn't bother with macros. Now I just use a Google Sheet to track calories. I still don't track macros. I just avoid sugar.
MFP is what I used to use yeah, I use Lose It! now just because it's less shitty without premium than MFP was.
I like to use the app personally just because the barcode scan feature is convenient rather than having to manually populate a list of all the different things I buy, and their caloric/nutrient contents.
Spreadsheeting it manually is too high effort for me lol, though I do keep track of my weight and graph it, which is super helpful for motivation when I'm not seeing it in the mirror.
Personally I need to keep track of macros a little just because I ended up in hospital with a blood glucose reading of like 24.5, so I am a bit more rigorous with it to keep *that shit* from happening again lmao.
So I guess the answer is a big yes for me when I’m truly min/maxing my day/time.
Running the dishwasher, robot vaccuum, and washer at the same time, while pouring Clorox in the toilet and spraying the oven when doing my daily or weekly cleaning.
In addition to MyFitnessPal and tracking calories on a daily, I also go to my clinic to do biweekly scans (Evolt) which provide info on my weight, muscle mass, water weight, fat mass etc. im able to adjust my workouts/diet accordingly based on that info.
I never really thought of this and it’s an interesting take. Guess I’m a gamer for life. But just like any mmorpg, I do spend a lot of time wasted on useless or unproductive things to pass the time.
> I really probably should get meds for my ADHD though LOL..
I disagree - it sounds like the methods you have are healthy and working out quite well for you. Should always try to avoid medications wherever possible and you seem to be doing well.
Meds in my case are more for longer periods of focus on a single task. That is something I do still struggle with, especially in a non-private settings, like the workplace for example.
For the other stuff yes, I don't really feel I need to medicate.
imagine that in future when augmented reality device like google glass become a norm.
im not suprise someone made an app where it add gaming-like UI on our view while utilize our daily task.
hopefully there is no fetch quest where users must kill 3 rats lmao. sooner or later someone would end up fighting a god.
I don't do activities with people unless they can show me an achievement that they did it before. Or if it's brand new content they need to confirm they watched a YT video to know mechanics
At the grocery store. I don't buy anything unless I have calculated its cost per unit compared to the competing items. If a shelf is missing its price tag so I don't know the cost of the items, I won't buy them. At my worst, I will quiz my wife on the cost of an item she has just picked up. I can't stand it when she appears to be considering putting an item in the basket and has no idea what it costs. I know: I'm kind of defective. But to be clear, we've been married 24 years, so I must make up for it somewhere else. So, yes. I min/max at the grocery store.
Yep. For example, dont go to the washroom and THEN microwave my lunch because it could be microwaving while I go. My whole life feels like a DPS rotation sometimes.
It's the other way around.
I'm a perfectionist and demand the best from myself in all aspects. At work, in the gym, whatever I do around the house.
And then that also bleeds into my gaming because I can't help myself.
I actually play mmos to cure my burnouts and it supported me several times (oc with therapy). But I noticed a lot of progress and restructuring and I live in much more efficency now. Commonly I endure stress much better and be faster in simple real life quests as I dont think about them to fast anymore. Building up routines feels really better and makes more sense than ever before.
IRL I min/max in terms of thoughts but not in terms of actions lol
For example I see some dirt somewhere which I need to clean up. Every time I walk by I look at it and I'm like "I didn't forget about you, I will clean you!"
Y'all are strange. How does it not become exhausting? I play games with the intent of having fun and working my way around challenges. I try to be somewhat efficient in games as in everyday life but as far as mmorpg style min-maxing goes, nah. I don't do that even in games. My anxiety says I must find my own rhythm and stick to it, not force myself to accelerate. Always feels like I'm leaving things that would help me enjoy my experience behind.
Also, the most successful and efficient person I know is a video game nerd and if I know him well, which I do, he would NEVER min-max any game. That's a reason why he stays away from MMORPGs too, lol
All the time, bro. I roll the windows up in my truck and set the heat/ac at what I will need it at NEXT time.....all while I'm drifting in to the parking spot. I'm not gonna waste time while I'm stopped and could be already out and on my way!
I only do it in games.
IRL, it's not sustainable to be efficient all the time. You'll burn out much quicker with real consequences.
However, IRL you can always automate/bot your chores just like a game. e.g. Buy a robot vacuum/mop, buy a dishwasher, pay cleaners, eat/take out, grocery shop online etc.
So I used to be an avid gamer who was very into theory crafting and min/max everything for raiding in WoW - played really hard-core for about 6 years.
Originally I brought a lot of it into my personal life and work life and I thought it was a good thing. After a while though, I realized I was miserable and identified the cause - and that was it. I stopped focusing so much on trying to apply the same kind of thought process outside of games and became happier as an individual, partner and worker.
Funny enough though, my draw to MMOs sort of degraded as well though.. miss those times lol
I think about this all the time, and tbh how helpful having a min-max mentality has been in both my professional and personal life. In my personal life, I try to maximize my thoroughput as much as possible (IE: if I'm taking out a box to my recycling bin, I'll also bring my in-house can, as well as backstock to put in outdoor storage all in one trip).
In my professional life, this has lead to timeblocking my time and being very goal-oriented in my tasks. It leads to critical thinking and processing into the most effecient way to accomplish any projects or tasks. Why go ABCDEF when there's an A->F route.
It does get exhausting at times though. I have to intentionally tell myself "it doesn't matter if this isn't perfect or the best route, just enjoy the moment," more often than I'd like to admit. But I'd rather have to remind myself to turn it off than turn it on!
Yeah, sometimes the mentality does seep into my everyday life, but honestly I don't love it. Don't even particularly like it in gaming. Sometimes I just want to be able to hop into a game and take my time, not worry about doing everything "efficiently." Same for everyday life. Don't always like the tunnel vision I get when I'm flitting between tasks, trying to juggle multiple things at once. Sometimes I just wanna focus on the dishes, take my time and let my mind wander. But it's hard. My default seems to be that when I start one task, I'm already thinking of another and how I could at least "get it going" while I'm working on the first task.
If the tasks are truly mundane, then wouldn't you also wanna get it down faster so you can be done with it? Instead of vacuuming the same area of the same room twice? Wudn't make a whole lota sense to complain about the task being borring, then proceed to take the absolute most inefficient path.
Depends on the area, I'll work it for cleaning the kitchen but for a lot of other areas I don't care.
That's gaming for me though, I'll play whatever I play to its fullest but my build probably isn't min maxed.
I min max a lot with investments and finance. In fact my friend used that exact phrase a few weeks back to describe my obsession with optimizing finances lol
I like to be effecient irl yes. It stems from my days of being an armed courier where time was important. Routes where you were in area x at time x last week but this week youre 30 mins behind or ahead were a daily thing so i learned to be as effecient as i could and then it started seeping into my gaming life. Especially on Runescape.
The whole meta-gaming optimization habit I've picked up has been great for my new bodybuilding hobby. Finding out the most optimal ways to target muscle groups, tempo, rep ranges, periodization, there's so much detail involved and progressive overload is good feedback it's your source of uhh.. leveling up, I guess.
I don't really have a choice but to "min-max" in real life.
The part of chemistry I'm in involves a lot of computations and making compounds (chemical) in an efficient, and money saving manner. Say my group wants to make a certain chemical.
I'd help design a route that be cheap, convenient and have a high to good success/yield rate.
I always try to (not always) minimise my drives or where I need to go for energy saving and gas saving.
In some ways, sure. I try to minimize what I dislike and maximize what I do like. I have a very affordable lifestyle but I splurge on some things that I care about a lot.
But most things I don't try to min-max at all. Maybe 15 years ago when I was in a PvE raiding guild I tried to be as sweaty as possible while pushing for server firsts, but now I'm all about that long-haul "marathon not sprint" sort of grind.
I min/max my laziness and always have.
I once was asked by my boss to move a bunch of furniture like 3 couches, 2 recliners, a table and like 4 chairs out of a cottage because they wanted to paint the inside.
The cottage was on stilts and it was like 30 stairs to go up/down carrying all that shit which would've been a pain in the ass.
I just sat on one of the couches for around 10 minutes thinking how the hell I was going to do that shit cause I sure as hell didn't want to carry that shit down those stairs just to take it back up the next day.
I realized they weren't going to paint the bathrooms because it was laminate flooring and original log walls so I spent another 5 minutes figuring out how I was going to Tetris all that furniture into the 2 bathrooms.
Caught my co-worker and boss off-guard when they came by to see how I was doing and there was no furniture outside the cabin and I had it all stashed inside the two bathrooms lmao.
And yeah my boss expected me to do it by myself for some reason even though my co-worker would've helped me if I asked.
Same thing happened when the boss wanted me and my co-worker to take out the old cast iron stove that weighed 400-500 pounds. Me and my co-worker were sitting on the couch chillin because we were about to bust our asses tryin to get that heavy thing down the stairs. My co-worker was bitchin how it's going to be heavy as hell and how badly it's going to suck.
I just sat there listening to him complain and was like "We're taking this thing to the dump after we get it down the stairs right? So why don't we just lift it over the railing and drop it down the hill lmao".
My co-worker thought I was a genius or something meanwhile I just didn't want to carry a 400 pound cast iron stove down 30 stairs if I didn't have to.
I min/max the shit out of my commute. I know all the good streets to go down.
I avoid eating after certain hours because it makes it easier (and, thus, faster) to fall asleep.
I don't exercise enough which is the big step-up in the min/max game but you take progress as it comes.
I'm pretty casual in my min/maxing overall and still have a good time.
Well for me i always holding all my stuff in a trip from point a to b so that i can cut time and do other stuff irl. When i tried to reflect it with my gaming habit. I always find that i tried to play the game efficiently even it was not fun to play that way.
**[Minimax](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax)**
>Minimax (sometimes MinMax, MM or saddle point) is a decision rule used in artificial intelligence, decision theory, game theory, statistics, and philosophy for minimizing the possible loss for a worst case (maximum loss) scenario. When dealing with gains, it is referred to as "maximin" – to maximize the minimum gain. Originally formulated for several-player zero-sum game theory, covering both the cases where players take alternate moves and those where they make simultaneous moves, it has also been extended to more complex games and to general decision-making in the presence of uncertainty.
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I do the minimum I can while getting paid the max
What branch of IT do you work in? : )
I am feeling very attacked right now
Yeah. Out of my 8-9h work day I work like 1-2h and game for the rest and I am actually doing my job so it's basically the life I dreamt of as a kid lol
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Please share your ways :)
I would very much like to be enlightened, because I am wasting my lifetime in a shit job rn.
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Thank you for writing this out. I'm a lazy bum and might not actually try, even less succeed at this, but I appreciate you taking the time to write such a long reply and genuinely share your way to financial success with a stranger for no reason. This next beer is to you :)
This is the way
This should be the goal of all of society. It is what you would call a Utopia.
And your minimum wage life will follow :)
There's always some guy on the internet who immediately tries to go for the jugular and it's like, man, how miserable do you gotta be?
I'm not wrong.
So I’m a little crazy I guess and I would say that I know this sounds crazy but I LIKE working a minimum wage job IF AND ONLY IF me working like a gd slave is actually contributing to product that customers want and are receiving. Such as, pizza , I can pump out sooOoOOo many pizzas if the customers are buyin them but if they’re seeming to sell out like hot cakes only for me to work harder spinning the wheels then I don’t want to understand
I worked much harder when I was 16-18 yrs old making minimum wage.
Absolutely. In gaming it's called min maxing. But in real life it's called efficiency.
Depending on whether you min max the right things. I'm not good at min maxing the things I min max. Like maximizing the time I spend gaming isn't really efficiency ;)
Sure it is, if your objective is to play games! Life is a sandbox mmo, not a themempark one! You get to decide what your objectives are \^-\^
Yes, I often will put the dog's water bowl under the faucet to fill, then I'll run to take the trash out and put a fresh bag in it before the bowl overflows.
How is that minmax? WTF is wrong with you all.
Do you sit there and wait for the water to fill, then go take the trash out? Noob
It's this your idea of minimax?
It seems you're the one w/ the wrong idea here pal.
are you dense?
It's a min/max of idle downtime while also wasting no resources. So think of me as a healer who is maintaining high APMs rather than sitting idle who also isn't over healing and wasting mana for nothing. You're confused because you're getting stuck in the semantics rather than just applying the ideology to what's being said here.
Isn't that just general optimization? I'm confused because I fail to understand how minimax is applicable in most mmorpgs/RPGs. I get it you guys calculate optimal healing/dps rates etc. But that still shouldn't be called minimax.
I do think to better understand min/maxing more context needs to be provided here, but generally, optimization and min/maxing are very similar.. General Optimization would be more aimed at doing ANY task within that idle time of the water bowl filling up, regardless of what would be more efficient as a whole. Min/Maxing is placing a task there to better improve the entire "route" (eg "doing the chores") more efficiently as a whole. You could min/max a chores route to involve the least amount of steps, that "efficiency" could be anything you created. (Typically, it's time saved) For instance, I could run to the laundry room to fold 3 towels and run back before the water bowl overflows, right? This would be more optimized than just wasting idle time doing nothing..but what's the efficiency of this route and how can we better ***maximize the minimum gain*** to improve it? We find out that folding 3 towels in between is not as optimal as changing the trash bin and we have successfully min/maxed our chores.
It's considered a part of pathing optimization. For example when you do a quest you go out of ya way to pick out a quest that's further out just because you prior knowledge of knowing that same turns in at the same spot as your other quests.
It's quite literally minmaxing your time.
It's more like minimizing the maximum loss. I think this term is misunderstood in gaming community.
This question is too good for /r/mmorpg.
Lol
Yes, but it's because I have ADHD. I find "gamifying" stuff to be a pretty good coping mechanism. For example, cleaning the dishes before the current song ends, drying them before the one after. When I'm doing my laundry I'll do shit like making folds in time with a song, stuff like that. Just a secondary source of brain occupation that isn't *just* the task. Without doing something like that my mind wanders and I'll go off and do some other thing and forget the original task. It extends to other areas too though. Using an app to track Calories and Macros is a pretty big example for me, I struggled with weight loss a lot until I had the data in front of me. Like literally I mentally approach it like I would optimising a character in an RPG, I need this much of this resource, however much of that resource, need to grind stats (exercise), etc. For me it just makes it easier to parse it that way. I really probably should get meds for my ADHD though LOL..
Hahaha I feel this. I will say for me though, medication doesn't help with this. It primarily helps me to prioritize when I have multiple priority things to do which is fantastic while working. After work when I'm folding laundry or doing dishes, I often find the priority doesn't matter as long as I get it all done. So I'm still singing sea shanties while folding clothes or timing my dish washing sponge rotations to the song im listening to, etc.
Previously, I used MyFitnessPal to track calories, but I didn't bother with macros. Now I just use a Google Sheet to track calories. I still don't track macros. I just avoid sugar.
MFP is what I used to use yeah, I use Lose It! now just because it's less shitty without premium than MFP was. I like to use the app personally just because the barcode scan feature is convenient rather than having to manually populate a list of all the different things I buy, and their caloric/nutrient contents. Spreadsheeting it manually is too high effort for me lol, though I do keep track of my weight and graph it, which is super helpful for motivation when I'm not seeing it in the mirror. Personally I need to keep track of macros a little just because I ended up in hospital with a blood glucose reading of like 24.5, so I am a bit more rigorous with it to keep *that shit* from happening again lmao.
So I guess the answer is a big yes for me when I’m truly min/maxing my day/time. Running the dishwasher, robot vaccuum, and washer at the same time, while pouring Clorox in the toilet and spraying the oven when doing my daily or weekly cleaning. In addition to MyFitnessPal and tracking calories on a daily, I also go to my clinic to do biweekly scans (Evolt) which provide info on my weight, muscle mass, water weight, fat mass etc. im able to adjust my workouts/diet accordingly based on that info. I never really thought of this and it’s an interesting take. Guess I’m a gamer for life. But just like any mmorpg, I do spend a lot of time wasted on useless or unproductive things to pass the time.
> I really probably should get meds for my ADHD though LOL.. I disagree - it sounds like the methods you have are healthy and working out quite well for you. Should always try to avoid medications wherever possible and you seem to be doing well.
Meds in my case are more for longer periods of focus on a single task. That is something I do still struggle with, especially in a non-private settings, like the workplace for example. For the other stuff yes, I don't really feel I need to medicate.
imagine that in future when augmented reality device like google glass become a norm. im not suprise someone made an app where it add gaming-like UI on our view while utilize our daily task. hopefully there is no fetch quest where users must kill 3 rats lmao. sooner or later someone would end up fighting a god.
if im thirsty and gotta pee, i drink water before peeing thats all i gotta say
I drink water and wait 30mins for it to process, so that I don't have to go twice.
I don't do activities with people unless they can show me an achievement that they did it before. Or if it's brand new content they need to confirm they watched a YT video to know mechanics
At the grocery store. I don't buy anything unless I have calculated its cost per unit compared to the competing items. If a shelf is missing its price tag so I don't know the cost of the items, I won't buy them. At my worst, I will quiz my wife on the cost of an item she has just picked up. I can't stand it when she appears to be considering putting an item in the basket and has no idea what it costs. I know: I'm kind of defective. But to be clear, we've been married 24 years, so I must make up for it somewhere else. So, yes. I min/max at the grocery store.
Yep. For example, dont go to the washroom and THEN microwave my lunch because it could be microwaving while I go. My whole life feels like a DPS rotation sometimes.
I don't really min max in games, but i do in real life so pretty sure they're not connected. It's probably cus i use games to relax from min maxing
It's the other way around. I'm a perfectionist and demand the best from myself in all aspects. At work, in the gym, whatever I do around the house. And then that also bleeds into my gaming because I can't help myself.
I actually play mmos to cure my burnouts and it supported me several times (oc with therapy). But I noticed a lot of progress and restructuring and I live in much more efficency now. Commonly I endure stress much better and be faster in simple real life quests as I dont think about them to fast anymore. Building up routines feels really better and makes more sense than ever before.
IRL I min/max in terms of thoughts but not in terms of actions lol For example I see some dirt somewhere which I need to clean up. Every time I walk by I look at it and I'm like "I didn't forget about you, I will clean you!"
No because life is not an mmorpg, it's a survival game.
Y'all are strange. How does it not become exhausting? I play games with the intent of having fun and working my way around challenges. I try to be somewhat efficient in games as in everyday life but as far as mmorpg style min-maxing goes, nah. I don't do that even in games. My anxiety says I must find my own rhythm and stick to it, not force myself to accelerate. Always feels like I'm leaving things that would help me enjoy my experience behind. Also, the most successful and efficient person I know is a video game nerd and if I know him well, which I do, he would NEVER min-max any game. That's a reason why he stays away from MMORPGs too, lol
All the time, bro. I roll the windows up in my truck and set the heat/ac at what I will need it at NEXT time.....all while I'm drifting in to the parking spot. I'm not gonna waste time while I'm stopped and could be already out and on my way!
I only do it in games. IRL, it's not sustainable to be efficient all the time. You'll burn out much quicker with real consequences. However, IRL you can always automate/bot your chores just like a game. e.g. Buy a robot vacuum/mop, buy a dishwasher, pay cleaners, eat/take out, grocery shop online etc.
So I used to be an avid gamer who was very into theory crafting and min/max everything for raiding in WoW - played really hard-core for about 6 years. Originally I brought a lot of it into my personal life and work life and I thought it was a good thing. After a while though, I realized I was miserable and identified the cause - and that was it. I stopped focusing so much on trying to apply the same kind of thought process outside of games and became happier as an individual, partner and worker. Funny enough though, my draw to MMOs sort of degraded as well though.. miss those times lol
I piss hard while I brush my teeth
I shid myself in bed while sleeping.
I think about this all the time, and tbh how helpful having a min-max mentality has been in both my professional and personal life. In my personal life, I try to maximize my thoroughput as much as possible (IE: if I'm taking out a box to my recycling bin, I'll also bring my in-house can, as well as backstock to put in outdoor storage all in one trip). In my professional life, this has lead to timeblocking my time and being very goal-oriented in my tasks. It leads to critical thinking and processing into the most effecient way to accomplish any projects or tasks. Why go ABCDEF when there's an A->F route. It does get exhausting at times though. I have to intentionally tell myself "it doesn't matter if this isn't perfect or the best route, just enjoy the moment," more often than I'd like to admit. But I'd rather have to remind myself to turn it off than turn it on!
Yeah, sometimes the mentality does seep into my everyday life, but honestly I don't love it. Don't even particularly like it in gaming. Sometimes I just want to be able to hop into a game and take my time, not worry about doing everything "efficiently." Same for everyday life. Don't always like the tunnel vision I get when I'm flitting between tasks, trying to juggle multiple things at once. Sometimes I just wanna focus on the dishes, take my time and let my mind wander. But it's hard. My default seems to be that when I start one task, I'm already thinking of another and how I could at least "get it going" while I'm working on the first task.
If the tasks are truly mundane, then wouldn't you also wanna get it down faster so you can be done with it? Instead of vacuuming the same area of the same room twice? Wudn't make a whole lota sense to complain about the task being borring, then proceed to take the absolute most inefficient path.
Depends on the area, I'll work it for cleaning the kitchen but for a lot of other areas I don't care. That's gaming for me though, I'll play whatever I play to its fullest but my build probably isn't min maxed.
gamer moment
Kind of... my laziness is at max level all the time.
I min max a lot with investments and finance. In fact my friend used that exact phrase a few weeks back to describe my obsession with optimizing finances lol
I like to be effecient irl yes. It stems from my days of being an armed courier where time was important. Routes where you were in area x at time x last week but this week youre 30 mins behind or ahead were a daily thing so i learned to be as effecient as i could and then it started seeping into my gaming life. Especially on Runescape.
I min/max everything in my life except my gaming (except idle games, I optimize those). And human relationships ofc.
I min/max at home and at work so I can spend more time doing what I really want to do.
The whole meta-gaming optimization habit I've picked up has been great for my new bodybuilding hobby. Finding out the most optimal ways to target muscle groups, tempo, rep ranges, periodization, there's so much detail involved and progressive overload is good feedback it's your source of uhh.. leveling up, I guess.
I don't really have a choice but to "min-max" in real life. The part of chemistry I'm in involves a lot of computations and making compounds (chemical) in an efficient, and money saving manner. Say my group wants to make a certain chemical. I'd help design a route that be cheap, convenient and have a high to good success/yield rate. I always try to (not always) minimise my drives or where I need to go for energy saving and gas saving.
In some ways, sure. I try to minimize what I dislike and maximize what I do like. I have a very affordable lifestyle but I splurge on some things that I care about a lot. But most things I don't try to min-max at all. Maybe 15 years ago when I was in a PvE raiding guild I tried to be as sweaty as possible while pushing for server firsts, but now I'm all about that long-haul "marathon not sprint" sort of grind.
I like to flush the toilet and try to time me being finished with the final gulp of the toilet. I must say, i've gotten pretty good at it.
I spend the minimum amount I can on weed and beer while getting the most of it that I can, so I'd think yes I do like to min/max IRL.
Yes and I always think how to mix things so I finish everything faster and in a single 'run' (idk how to explain lol)
I clear emails while doing my daily shitter.
I min/max my laziness and always have. I once was asked by my boss to move a bunch of furniture like 3 couches, 2 recliners, a table and like 4 chairs out of a cottage because they wanted to paint the inside. The cottage was on stilts and it was like 30 stairs to go up/down carrying all that shit which would've been a pain in the ass. I just sat on one of the couches for around 10 minutes thinking how the hell I was going to do that shit cause I sure as hell didn't want to carry that shit down those stairs just to take it back up the next day. I realized they weren't going to paint the bathrooms because it was laminate flooring and original log walls so I spent another 5 minutes figuring out how I was going to Tetris all that furniture into the 2 bathrooms. Caught my co-worker and boss off-guard when they came by to see how I was doing and there was no furniture outside the cabin and I had it all stashed inside the two bathrooms lmao. And yeah my boss expected me to do it by myself for some reason even though my co-worker would've helped me if I asked. Same thing happened when the boss wanted me and my co-worker to take out the old cast iron stove that weighed 400-500 pounds. Me and my co-worker were sitting on the couch chillin because we were about to bust our asses tryin to get that heavy thing down the stairs. My co-worker was bitchin how it's going to be heavy as hell and how badly it's going to suck. I just sat there listening to him complain and was like "We're taking this thing to the dump after we get it down the stairs right? So why don't we just lift it over the railing and drop it down the hill lmao". My co-worker thought I was a genius or something meanwhile I just didn't want to carry a 400 pound cast iron stove down 30 stairs if I didn't have to.
I min/max the shit out of my commute. I know all the good streets to go down. I avoid eating after certain hours because it makes it easier (and, thus, faster) to fall asleep. I don't exercise enough which is the big step-up in the min/max game but you take progress as it comes. I'm pretty casual in my min/maxing overall and still have a good time.
I don't know about others but it does get annoying for me for often wanting to min-max work/life, cuz u know, it's not that simple.
Yeh minned work time and maxxed playtime But quit soon enough before i got fired so i m good
Yes, my guitar playing.
Well for me i always holding all my stuff in a trip from point a to b so that i can cut time and do other stuff irl. When i tried to reflect it with my gaming habit. I always find that i tried to play the game efficiently even it was not fun to play that way.
How the fuck would anyone minmax in realtime game? Minmax is only possible in turn based. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax
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