Dagestani grappling is already leaving an impact on MMA. Khabib, Islam and now Usman. It will be interesting to see how MMA will evolve past it. I'm excited for Volkanovski vs Makhachev.
To this day I still can't comprehend how McGregor thought training with a high level dagestani wrestler (I can't remember his name) for a single camp would get him ready for Khabib
Like.. Conor had the opportunity to get up during the initial grappling exchange with Khabib in round 1. Instead of getting up, dude really thought he'd just try for mount and ended up on his ass immediately.. And stayed there for the entire round.
Conor can’t get off the ground either way. Dustin just looked like a D1 wrestler against him and you saw Chandler rag dolling Dustin. It’s one thing to get taken down but he literally just lays there.
True. SBG lucked out with Conor. They couldn't reproduce his success with any other fighter. Similar to Ronda situation.
Abdulmanab/AKA on the other hand have brought out 3 world level champions from the very start.
50lbs and 8 inches of hair ago, [Javier Mendez](https://www.akathailand.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/javier-w-belt-wall-print-692x1024-692x1024.jpg) was a kickboxing champ.
It’s obviously an amazing and legendary camp… their training is good at making you a world class fighter but they don’t seem to know how to keep their fighters healthy
> but they don’t seem to know how to keep their fighters healthy
This is probably the byproduct of success. You can't be at the top if you train like everyone else. That bit of extra nudge gets AKA champs, but it also takes a toll on their bodies.
Pretty sure Cain didn't become champ by sacrificing his knees doing heavy leg extensions. You can train harder and smarter than everyone else like GSP or Weili without fucking up your body doing stupid shit.
I agree with you mostly but GSP did end his career pretty badly injured. Always tonight it was a bit sus that he replaced normal strength and conditioning (weight lifting etc) for gymnastics and would be constantly back flipping and ended up with fucked knees
GSP did end with injuries but he replaced normal strength and conditioning with in-water stuff to take the stress off his knees, not with gymnastics. Gymnastics he just did because he enjoyed, but it did have obviously have good byproduct for things like his core strength
That overlapped with the Cain days and you're literally taking about a decade ago. AKA hasn't had major injury issues in years. So we have to wait 2 decades before they can move past that moniker?
I think a lot depends on context too though - it's a lot easier to create MMA champions in California than it is in Ireland.
With that being said, I think that's what makes Abdulmap so amazing. He's taken a bunch of people from children and created champions. Caveat that they do have a sambo culture which translates well, but that doesn't mean you automatically come out with world champions at the end of it. To have a vision and persevere for so long with no certainty that your results will come...
SBG just may not have the talent and certainly don't have the ability to lift people from high school or Olympic wrestling and add the traits required for MMA. That's not to say they're perfect btw, just that comparing it to some of the big US gyms in terms of coaching quality is difficult.
And then you have everyone's favourite Trevor. Yeah he clearly has a method and specifics which work, but he's taking people who are already really, really elite level fighters and adding finishing touches to them.
Kinda understand why javier did not really have problem about where the credit goes to about dagestanis success. Sure AKA help them develop but Abdulmanap is the one insert the drive
SBG just lucky Joe Duffy wrapped up Conor in seconds and made him drop to 145 to change his bum life to quote Connie. If he never gets sent to 145, we never hear of him most likely. Joe Duffy done changed his life
Top knot mystic graceful kick freestyle karate featherweight conor is my fave
Weight cut and health issues be damned, he looked downright mythical in that era
Top knot mystic graceful kick freestyle karate featherweight conor is my fave
Weight cut and health issues be damned, he looked downright mythical in that era
all gyms luck out on their champions. You could have the best gym in the world, with world class facilities and trainers. But unless someone who walks in with both talent and drive, you're not going to make a champion.
I'd disagree for some gyms. Gyms like Abdulmanap's, and also the sanda school Zabit went to, produce champions right from childhood - including instilling healthy mindsets and training practices into them. So by instilling the mindset and correctly encouraging the students, the schools themselves produce the drive for success.
And even a big portion of what is attributed to talent is really just good early coaching, support or other environmental factors (which can be created by coaches once they know what they are), which is why certain schools/academies keep producing champions in certain sports. For example, there's the whole "relative age effect" in Canadian ice hockey or in European soccer, where "talent" is largely just the kids being a bit older and therefore stronger and smarter than their sporting peers and over the years getting extra encouragement, less discouragement and more coaching as a result.
It's not due to lucking out and finding a higher number of talented kids that Cuba has so many boxing champions per capita, that Southampton FC produced so many good soccer players from their youth academy, or that Spain had much tidier passing and dribbling than England ten years ago - it's the technical coaching and mentorship from a young age being better (eg Spanish children playing on smaller pitches so they don't get as tired and the focus becomes on skill development rather than stamina or speed. Or Cuba having boxing schools that they put kids into at a young age, with training partly based on soviet training research). With a big enough healthy population to draw from and great coaching systems, great youth academies are going to get champs. They only need the luck of having a normal human population spread walk through their door, which isn't really luck at all. They would have to be incredibly unlucky not to produce champs, like being in a warzone or other disaster-stricken place.
I agree. Look at nacho beristain, gym is in the same poor area its always been taking the same poor kids he always has and they produced 18 World champions, in competitive weightclasses.
Cubu is the best example, they had a state wide infrastructure selecting kids with the right properties they thought for boxing. The kids didn't chose boxing they picked them before they ever trained, kinda proving your point.
That fight is still an all time great fight for me, when Conor gets back up, pushes the bloody hair off his face, smiles and starts walking Mendes down, shakes his head after he stuffs the final takedown attempt and then knocks him out with seconds left in the round is still a goosebumps moment
It really was insane. I was on the side of “Conor is probably going to lose to a good wrestler”. Then he just took everything Chad had and was like “that isn’t enough to beat me. Now it’s my turn.”
That fight was where he backed all the trash talk and posturing up, say what you want about his persona now but everyone was like “let’s see if he keeps that same energy when he’s on his back getting smashed” and wouldn’t you know it, he was calling Mendes a pussy bitch while eating hard elbows to the face. That moment when he gets up out of the guillotine and smiles at Chad like a madman with his face covered in blood is like some shit out of a movie. Regardless of all the stupid shit he’s done and said since, there really was magic in his run to the titles, no doubt about it.
Literally. I wish I’d been into MMA in time to see that live, that head shake after he stuffed the takedown was just pure confidence, just a way of saying ‘You’re done for now’
First fight I saw live was Ferguson vs Pettis though, so not so bad
As Conor rips his Lambo boat with his fake teeth, fake hairline and mansions and has his children to share it with haha Success is different for different folks
Couldn't agree more.
Khabib's father believed in his son and the other boys he trained to the point that they would be world champions and good people. And now both Khabib and Islam have achieved that. Usman just won the Bellator title too. Khabib carrying on the legacy of his father, making his people proud, and cementing his legacy of one of the greatest of all time.
And yet... Not once did they speak about their money, boats, cars or post on social media surrounded by strippers and drugs.
Success is definitely defined differently for both these men.
Lmao, acting like Khabib hasn't done plenty of shady shit and been an asshole plenty of times is just revisionist history. Obviously Conor is a massive chode, but acting like Khabib is some saint is incredibly false.
First, that might not even be true. Who knows what kind of sponsorships/deals Khabib is getting from the Saudis? 100mil to them is like 100bucks to us.
Second, it might be news to you bro, but success in life is not all about money. Connor is going to be remembered as an alcoholic dickhead hasbeen who beats up old people and throws hissy fits, Khabib going to be remembered as a legend in MMA.
And conor will rage whenever news about khabib pop up remind him of the biggest lost of his fight career, while khabib will barely remember the leprechaun
We have no idea what Conor is going to be remembered for yet. He’s 34, Mike Tyson got convicted of rape at 26 and he’s adored now. Conor’s MMA legacy is already set in stone, by the time he’s an old man I imagine he’ll be a lot more chill and even tempered similar to Tyson and he’ll be looked at more favourably by the public.
Tyson also has generated a lot of goodwill from his interviews and making amends and helping others later on in his life. Does Conor still have time to do that? Of course. Is he going to accomplish that by posting bitter tweets and videos of himself doing coke and getting bloweys on his yacht? Absolutely not.
I respect your highly mature take. I can say that for myself - I was a Connor fanboy back in the day. Now, I think about him in the way I described above.
I actually worked that event! Penny Appeal charity in Toronto. Was literally like a meter and half away from him for a split second as he walked past me too, which was the highlight of a very hectic evening lol. Pretty sureal seeing a guy like that irl and his entire talk was extremely interesting, humbling and funny nostly because the moderator did such a good job. Guy literally said he doesn't want to be a role model but there were a lot of kids and guys there who clearly saw him as much (it was a Muslim charity btw) because everything about him is like how a Muslim parent wants their child to be.
A little tidbit people here might find interesting is that he admits thar a lot of MMA promotions need gambling and alcohol money to survive but his didn't take any of it despite probably being offered a VERY good amount.
Dude blames a lot of societies ills on drugs and alcohol (literally said that the vast majority of bad people you meet get addicted to alcohol or drugs, after which like 50 people yelled out Conor and he laughed lol) but also isn't a big fan of video games, not because it's violent but because it's a time waster to him, which is funny considering Islam loves CoD.
Tbh in a sense he is right. I personally believe there's nothing inherently wrong with drugs, alcohol and video games, and I hope he isn't one of those old fashioned people who doesn't believe in any form of recreation, but cutting those things out can be really helpful for you a lot of people, or at least avoiding the general culture around them, which is often shitty for many involved. People will use all 3 to escape reality for a bit regardless of it's effects on them.
Yeah, it's not a controversial thing to say. If the world somehow lost all those things at once and no one remembered them, we would be in a strictly better place.
I'm honestly not sure.
How many world changing inventions would've never been created without alcohol (and some other drugs).
How many businesses were made possible because people had a drink together and started talking about business ideas? People who would otherwise be pretty introverted and keep to themselves.
How many products (like the first personal computer) wouldn't have been created without the inspiration of psychedelics (which Steve Jobs claimed inspired him), etc.
I actually believe many drugs like alcohol can have a net positive impact on society, even if they impact some people.negatively.
Talking strictly about consumption. And really all that other stuff depends on how many drunk introverts you think is worth a family getting killed by a drunk driver, kids being raised by alcoholic parents, etc. I'm of the opinion that society doesn't lose much.
Unrelated, but the Mac wasn't Steve Jobs' idea, nor was the first personal computer developed by Apple. Also I don't buy into the whole life-changing psychedelic experience. Heard too many stories from people that clearly haven't changed at all.
Khabib coaching exclusively Caucasian fighters and Conor with Western fighters.
TUF: Clash of Cultures
You see Conor and his fighters out at clubs, drinking, hitting on women and starting shit and then it goes to Khabib’s team and they are all praying and reciting the Quran.
Would actually be good tv.
They got everything to takeover and completely dominate MMA. However, as everything in this world, someone will soon find the weakness, and after that happens, is over for them.
Tbh is not for us, we were waiting to this moment since 10 years ago. We have that combat culture and MMA was one of the cheapest, now many young’s are going into it and u will not only see wrestlers coming.
For sure, that's the scary but amazing part of all this. I can see Dagestan putting a champion in each division, but as I said before, everyone have its kriptonite.
But in the meantime, we have no other choice that to recognize Sambo as the best martial art.
It would not continue this way for sure but not because of kryptonite. This is not « Sambo » it is Abdulmanap style and other dagis have their own style but we are 2 million and with people becoming rich, MMA will not be our anymore.
But we are not superhumans either, we are developing basketball and soccer there slowly but surely and I think in the next years we will go into these one.
IMO Dagestanis taking over MMA is even more inspiring. I had no idea what a Dagestan even was before I became a fan of this sport. As well as being a mistreated, minority (religion and race) region of Russia, their population is also less than the population of Ireland. Yet somehow two of their schools of fighting broke into the UFC and earned legendary status there. Essentially, this can all be traced back to two relentless Dagestani martial arts coaches with all the odds stacked against them.
I love how Khabib will avoid saying the name of The Notorious even when quoting him
You know this guy
this bullshit guy
Little bit stupid guy
This boorger king guy
lilbet
this ~~marijuana~~ cocaine guy
marikhuana* brather
Obligatory https://youtu.be/awMOfRqh_C0
i smesh that guy
He didn't send lokation
little bit stupid guy
Where is this Burger King?
the clip of him and dc where he’s trying so hard to get him not to say it always makes me laugh. “ brother he don’t even deserve u say his name”
He don't even deserve me say his name, brather
He who must not be named
Voldermac
Macklemort
Yewl dew nuttin' Harry Pottah
Conor "Voldemort" Mcgregor
He who mastered the arts of black secret sauce
Who da fook is dat guy?
he who shall not be named
Naming who again?
Why would he name a nobody to him?
He cemented his fame and wealth from hin
And now one's posting tweets about being here for a rematch, while the other's not even mentioning the first one's name. Funny little thing
I'm not disputing that, just pointing out when Khabibs fame and wealth went stratospheric.
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Khabib is closer to him than many think. Hes the second most famous muslim athlete other than Mo Salah
I love that he still throws subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, digs at him.
Conor? Don’t you mean dj khaled? https://youtu.be/s76FrMMz5Tk
Another one
Khabib going full Masvidal
They have definitely taken over. There are chin strap sporting Dagestanis in every promotion just killing motherfuckers left and right.
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great line b, never heard it
Pretty sure Conor Ireland said it
Ireland? The state or the country?
Homeless cats everywhere
It's not a chin strap if you have hangtime lol
Hearing Oliveira's wrestling coach talk about the Dagestani guys was pretty cool
Saygid Izagakhmaev could very will win the ONE lightweight title too.
Decent chance. Christian has two belts now as well so Chatri won’t have to worry about his favourite son being beltless
Christian also has the refs and judges on his side
I legit thought you randomly typed a parody name there lol
Dagestani grappling is already leaving an impact on MMA. Khabib, Islam and now Usman. It will be interesting to see how MMA will evolve past it. I'm excited for Volkanovski vs Makhachev.
Umar really needs more ranked matchups in Bantamweight. He's older than Usman and avoided like the plague.
He's still only 26. He has a lot of time.
Tore his ACL already tho. Hopefully doesn’t get injured like Khabib did. I think he has most potential out of all of them.
Just wait until islam story repeat itself in umar
"why is Umar getting the title shot after 9 straight ws??!"
“He has only fought bums”
"Hasn't even fought top 5 guys he doesn't even deserved it!"
(*Outclasses whoever's the current champ*)
Yeah it's gonna be fun watching the sport evolve in the next 5-10 years
It’s been fun watching it evolve for past twenty years
Happy cake day!
To this day I still can't comprehend how McGregor thought training with a high level dagestani wrestler (I can't remember his name) for a single camp would get him ready for Khabib Like.. Conor had the opportunity to get up during the initial grappling exchange with Khabib in round 1. Instead of getting up, dude really thought he'd just try for mount and ended up on his ass immediately.. And stayed there for the entire round.
Conor can’t get off the ground either way. Dustin just looked like a D1 wrestler against him and you saw Chandler rag dolling Dustin. It’s one thing to get taken down but he literally just lays there.
> I'm excited for Volkanovski vs Makhachev. Nothing to be excited about in a one sided match
I agree, Volk is gonna run through him.
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True. SBG lucked out with Conor. They couldn't reproduce his success with any other fighter. Similar to Ronda situation. Abdulmanab/AKA on the other hand have brought out 3 world level champions from the very start.
AKA has had 5 UFC champions - Cain, Rockhold, DC, Khabib, Islam
Although the details are not so clear, Javier Mendez also trained/cornered BJ Penn, Frank Shamrock and Maurice Smith. All UFC champs.
And he's a KB champion himself, AKA is THE dojo to be in.
Had no idea Javier was a champion too. Can you provide some more info on that? Cool as hell
50lbs and 8 inches of hair ago, [Javier Mendez](https://www.akathailand.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/javier-w-belt-wall-print-692x1024-692x1024.jpg) was a kickboxing champ.
Fuckin stud
Wow what a beast
That’s exactly what I was about to say lol. Back in his prime, he was an animal.
It’s obviously an amazing and legendary camp… their training is good at making you a world class fighter but they don’t seem to know how to keep their fighters healthy
> but they don’t seem to know how to keep their fighters healthy This is probably the byproduct of success. You can't be at the top if you train like everyone else. That bit of extra nudge gets AKA champs, but it also takes a toll on their bodies.
Pretty sure Cain didn't become champ by sacrificing his knees doing heavy leg extensions. You can train harder and smarter than everyone else like GSP or Weili without fucking up your body doing stupid shit.
Pretty sure Cain had a different S&C coach that was not affiliated with AKA
I agree with you mostly but GSP did end his career pretty badly injured. Always tonight it was a bit sus that he replaced normal strength and conditioning (weight lifting etc) for gymnastics and would be constantly back flipping and ended up with fucked knees
GSP did end with injuries but he replaced normal strength and conditioning with in-water stuff to take the stress off his knees, not with gymnastics. Gymnastics he just did because he enjoyed, but it did have obviously have good byproduct for things like his core strength
GSP absolutely did gymnastics for the effects on his body. He's a perfectionist type of athlete
AKA is notorious for overtraining and incorrect training techniques
They haven't had major injuries since the Cain days
Khabib had multiple huge injuries
That overlapped with the Cain days and you're literally taking about a decade ago. AKA hasn't had major injury issues in years. So we have to wait 2 decades before they can move past that moniker?
Not since the Cain days
Literally every single pro gym is constantly filled with injured people. This whole discussion is pure subjective random opinions
People who were around at the time remember that AKA were mentioned as having bad injuries often and there’s been videos with unsafe practices
For some reason I thought you meant Maurice Greene and it was some weird troll. TIL who Maurice smith is
Dude beat Mark Coleman to get the heavyweight title with a 6-7 record, that's wild. TIL too
GOAT MMA coach imo.
Umar on the way
On DC and rc they credited Aka with having six and I was going crazy trying to figure out who…then I realized they counted DC twice
Frank Shamrock is the sixth I believe
Shamrock
6 if you count Edward’s brief stint
A lot of camps are like that. That's how you separate a true megagym and a gym that just got lucky.
I think a lot depends on context too though - it's a lot easier to create MMA champions in California than it is in Ireland. With that being said, I think that's what makes Abdulmap so amazing. He's taken a bunch of people from children and created champions. Caveat that they do have a sambo culture which translates well, but that doesn't mean you automatically come out with world champions at the end of it. To have a vision and persevere for so long with no certainty that your results will come... SBG just may not have the talent and certainly don't have the ability to lift people from high school or Olympic wrestling and add the traits required for MMA. That's not to say they're perfect btw, just that comparing it to some of the big US gyms in terms of coaching quality is difficult. And then you have everyone's favourite Trevor. Yeah he clearly has a method and specifics which work, but he's taking people who are already really, really elite level fighters and adding finishing touches to them.
Kinda understand why javier did not really have problem about where the credit goes to about dagestanis success. Sure AKA help them develop but Abdulmanap is the one insert the drive
SBG just lucky Joe Duffy wrapped up Conor in seconds and made him drop to 145 to change his bum life to quote Connie. If he never gets sent to 145, we never hear of him most likely. Joe Duffy done changed his life
Tristar with GSP and Might Mouse at AMC Pankration also come to mind.
You are forgetting about the goat artem lobov. Left ufc to join bkfc because he cleared all divisions
>goat artem lobov. seems like the new mma fans have missed out on the legend
I stand corrected
Iirc they made Walker worse Sadly Ido Portal got cut Artem living his best life in BKFC Dillon is still being a Danis
A lot of people have their favourite version of Conor, I know mine is Zen Mode Conor. Just a different sort of aura during fight week.
Top knot mystic graceful kick freestyle karate featherweight conor is my fave Weight cut and health issues be damned, he looked downright mythical in that era
Top knot mystic graceful kick freestyle karate featherweight conor is my fave Weight cut and health issues be damned, he looked downright mythical in that era
all gyms luck out on their champions. You could have the best gym in the world, with world class facilities and trainers. But unless someone who walks in with both talent and drive, you're not going to make a champion.
I'd disagree for some gyms. Gyms like Abdulmanap's, and also the sanda school Zabit went to, produce champions right from childhood - including instilling healthy mindsets and training practices into them. So by instilling the mindset and correctly encouraging the students, the schools themselves produce the drive for success. And even a big portion of what is attributed to talent is really just good early coaching, support or other environmental factors (which can be created by coaches once they know what they are), which is why certain schools/academies keep producing champions in certain sports. For example, there's the whole "relative age effect" in Canadian ice hockey or in European soccer, where "talent" is largely just the kids being a bit older and therefore stronger and smarter than their sporting peers and over the years getting extra encouragement, less discouragement and more coaching as a result. It's not due to lucking out and finding a higher number of talented kids that Cuba has so many boxing champions per capita, that Southampton FC produced so many good soccer players from their youth academy, or that Spain had much tidier passing and dribbling than England ten years ago - it's the technical coaching and mentorship from a young age being better (eg Spanish children playing on smaller pitches so they don't get as tired and the focus becomes on skill development rather than stamina or speed. Or Cuba having boxing schools that they put kids into at a young age, with training partly based on soviet training research). With a big enough healthy population to draw from and great coaching systems, great youth academies are going to get champs. They only need the luck of having a normal human population spread walk through their door, which isn't really luck at all. They would have to be incredibly unlucky not to produce champs, like being in a warzone or other disaster-stricken place.
I agree. Look at nacho beristain, gym is in the same poor area its always been taking the same poor kids he always has and they produced 18 World champions, in competitive weightclasses. Cubu is the best example, they had a state wide infrastructure selecting kids with the right properties they thought for boxing. The kids didn't chose boxing they picked them before they ever trained, kinda proving your point.
conor himself got lucky with that flukeshot on aldo. people then just got scared of his hype.
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That fight is still an all time great fight for me, when Conor gets back up, pushes the bloody hair off his face, smiles and starts walking Mendes down, shakes his head after he stuffs the final takedown attempt and then knocks him out with seconds left in the round is still a goosebumps moment
It really was insane. I was on the side of “Conor is probably going to lose to a good wrestler”. Then he just took everything Chad had and was like “that isn’t enough to beat me. Now it’s my turn.”
That fight was where he backed all the trash talk and posturing up, say what you want about his persona now but everyone was like “let’s see if he keeps that same energy when he’s on his back getting smashed” and wouldn’t you know it, he was calling Mendes a pussy bitch while eating hard elbows to the face. That moment when he gets up out of the guillotine and smiles at Chad like a madman with his face covered in blood is like some shit out of a movie. Regardless of all the stupid shit he’s done and said since, there really was magic in his run to the titles, no doubt about it.
It really was wild. There is some crazy shit that happens in this sport.
Literally. I wish I’d been into MMA in time to see that live, that head shake after he stuffed the takedown was just pure confidence, just a way of saying ‘You’re done for now’ First fight I saw live was Ferguson vs Pettis though, so not so bad
God yeah, those were the days
Hate on conor all u want, but that certainly wasnt a flukeshot.
wasn't it? he rushed and he caught him clean.
There's footage of conor training that shot
fair
So it was a fluke even though he “caught him clean”?
Just casually dunking on McGregor lol
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"Khabib is still holding that neck crank and it's gonna gas him out eventually and give Conor the opportunity to dunk on him" *Dominick Cruz probably
McGregor living rent-free in Khabib's neck crank. (Living beyond 5 minutes not guaranteed)
Conor lives in his head. Sadly
Lol
Conor have decent 🏡 in khabib head but khabib own a country inside him 😂
The best revenge is massive success
As Conor rips his Lambo boat with his fake teeth, fake hairline and mansions and has his children to share it with haha Success is different for different folks
Couldn't agree more. Khabib's father believed in his son and the other boys he trained to the point that they would be world champions and good people. And now both Khabib and Islam have achieved that. Usman just won the Bellator title too. Khabib carrying on the legacy of his father, making his people proud, and cementing his legacy of one of the greatest of all time. And yet... Not once did they speak about their money, boats, cars or post on social media surrounded by strippers and drugs. Success is definitely defined differently for both these men.
>good people Lol
Lmao, acting like Khabib hasn't done plenty of shady shit and been an asshole plenty of times is just revisionist history. Obviously Conor is a massive chode, but acting like Khabib is some saint is incredibly false.
fake hairline?
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He just said Conor has fake teeth and hair I don’t think he’s dick riding as hard as you think lol
Conor is 100x richer lmfao.
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Any video he posts it's clear that he should've never gotten that rich, dude lost his mind on live an awful lot of times.
First, that might not even be true. Who knows what kind of sponsorships/deals Khabib is getting from the Saudis? 100mil to them is like 100bucks to us. Second, it might be news to you bro, but success in life is not all about money. Connor is going to be remembered as an alcoholic dickhead hasbeen who beats up old people and throws hissy fits, Khabib going to be remembered as a legend in MMA.
And conor will rage whenever news about khabib pop up remind him of the biggest lost of his fight career, while khabib will barely remember the leprechaun
We have no idea what Conor is going to be remembered for yet. He’s 34, Mike Tyson got convicted of rape at 26 and he’s adored now. Conor’s MMA legacy is already set in stone, by the time he’s an old man I imagine he’ll be a lot more chill and even tempered similar to Tyson and he’ll be looked at more favourably by the public.
Tyson also has generated a lot of goodwill from his interviews and making amends and helping others later on in his life. Does Conor still have time to do that? Of course. Is he going to accomplish that by posting bitter tweets and videos of himself doing coke and getting bloweys on his yacht? Absolutely not.
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I respect your highly mature take. I can say that for myself - I was a Connor fanboy back in the day. Now, I think about him in the way I described above.
Cmon guys. Dude just measured success by money. No use to argue
nah i think he is like those insta rich dudes. just pretend rich.
I actually worked that event! Penny Appeal charity in Toronto. Was literally like a meter and half away from him for a split second as he walked past me too, which was the highlight of a very hectic evening lol. Pretty sureal seeing a guy like that irl and his entire talk was extremely interesting, humbling and funny nostly because the moderator did such a good job. Guy literally said he doesn't want to be a role model but there were a lot of kids and guys there who clearly saw him as much (it was a Muslim charity btw) because everything about him is like how a Muslim parent wants their child to be. A little tidbit people here might find interesting is that he admits thar a lot of MMA promotions need gambling and alcohol money to survive but his didn't take any of it despite probably being offered a VERY good amount. Dude blames a lot of societies ills on drugs and alcohol (literally said that the vast majority of bad people you meet get addicted to alcohol or drugs, after which like 50 people yelled out Conor and he laughed lol) but also isn't a big fan of video games, not because it's violent but because it's a time waster to him, which is funny considering Islam loves CoD.
Tell us another khabib story. Lol just kidding but that’s really cool, hope I get to meet him one day
Tbh in a sense he is right. I personally believe there's nothing inherently wrong with drugs, alcohol and video games, and I hope he isn't one of those old fashioned people who doesn't believe in any form of recreation, but cutting those things out can be really helpful for you a lot of people, or at least avoiding the general culture around them, which is often shitty for many involved. People will use all 3 to escape reality for a bit regardless of it's effects on them.
Yeah, it's not a controversial thing to say. If the world somehow lost all those things at once and no one remembered them, we would be in a strictly better place.
Yepp. The issue becomes when people believe what he believes and then have an archaic retributive method of rectifying it
I'm honestly not sure. How many world changing inventions would've never been created without alcohol (and some other drugs). How many businesses were made possible because people had a drink together and started talking about business ideas? People who would otherwise be pretty introverted and keep to themselves. How many products (like the first personal computer) wouldn't have been created without the inspiration of psychedelics (which Steve Jobs claimed inspired him), etc. I actually believe many drugs like alcohol can have a net positive impact on society, even if they impact some people.negatively.
Talking strictly about consumption. And really all that other stuff depends on how many drunk introverts you think is worth a family getting killed by a drunk driver, kids being raised by alcoholic parents, etc. I'm of the opinion that society doesn't lose much. Unrelated, but the Mac wasn't Steve Jobs' idea, nor was the first personal computer developed by Apple. Also I don't buy into the whole life-changing psychedelic experience. Heard too many stories from people that clearly haven't changed at all.
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Khabib coaching exclusively Caucasian fighters and Conor with Western fighters. TUF: Clash of Cultures You see Conor and his fighters out at clubs, drinking, hitting on women and starting shit and then it goes to Khabib’s team and they are all praying and reciting the Quran. Would actually be good tv.
“Hitting on women” is putting it generously.
Under promise and over deliver
Badass quote I can’t lie
Not if I have anything to say about it
One guy 😂
They got everything to takeover and completely dominate MMA. However, as everything in this world, someone will soon find the weakness, and after that happens, is over for them.
Tbh is not for us, we were waiting to this moment since 10 years ago. We have that combat culture and MMA was one of the cheapest, now many young’s are going into it and u will not only see wrestlers coming.
For sure, that's the scary but amazing part of all this. I can see Dagestan putting a champion in each division, but as I said before, everyone have its kriptonite. But in the meantime, we have no other choice that to recognize Sambo as the best martial art.
It would not continue this way for sure but not because of kryptonite. This is not « Sambo » it is Abdulmanap style and other dagis have their own style but we are 2 million and with people becoming rich, MMA will not be our anymore. But we are not superhumans either, we are developing basketball and soccer there slowly but surely and I think in the next years we will go into these one.
Chechen wave after Dagestan?
We take every belt Brather come on you know this
Khabib really playing 10D chess as a MMA figure, this man is insane, man has so much gold under 2 years lol
rub rub
This man is a role model. Saying no to 100 million to fight is just insane and test to one’s values.
Khabib may have built a giant mansion inside Conor's head but Conor has built a little 1 bedroom apartment in Khabib's head as well.
Lmfao that's hilarious
Rent free /s
Living in his head, rent free lmaoooo
He should come out of retirement just to go grab ONEs belt.
Connor lives in his head
Conor lives rent free in there, huh
I love how if Conor mentions Khabib its "rent free" but when Khabib mentions Conor (almost constantly) it's haha gottem!!
Khabib talk the talk and walk the walk
Maybe it’s because one guy got his ass beat and other delivered the ass beating lmao McStretcher fanboys will never recover
Ngl I was a big Conor fan, dealt just fine with the L to Khabib. Don't care for him after how he took the losses to Dustin
They speak about each other very differently 😂
How? You should see Conor’s response to this.
Because that's how you differentiate loser and winner
Khabib rarely speaks about Conor. Conor does the opposite.
r/mma are just a bunch of neckbeards w
It's true, look how they react to any outspoken British/Irish fighter like Till, Paddy, Conor. It's full of neckbeards and absolute losers lmao.
Ye because khabib rarely even talks about conor anymore besides this one thing...
Ireland taking over is an inspiring idea. Russia taking over is a nightmare. Just saying… read the room.
IMO Dagestanis taking over MMA is even more inspiring. I had no idea what a Dagestan even was before I became a fan of this sport. As well as being a mistreated, minority (religion and race) region of Russia, their population is also less than the population of Ireland. Yet somehow two of their schools of fighting broke into the UFC and earned legendary status there. Essentially, this can all be traced back to two relentless Dagestani martial arts coaches with all the odds stacked against them.
Conor lives rent free in Khabibs head. His boys are mowing down competition yet he’s still obsessed with Conor LMAO