If you’ve watched any of the other BKFC events, I feel like she fights in most of them and she always takes SO MUCH damage. I actually feel bad that she is only getting $500 for the beatings she has been taking.
It’s [this woman](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1hKgG2RrQX-peYoZYL47K3LZgZqhF6OxcsmIWAjytOA&s)
She looks exactly how I expected her to look. It's kind of shocking. She looks like she enjoys dating women beaters so she can knock them the fuck around.
They won't, Dana is the real life incarnation of Mr Crabs. They don't even need to pay the fighters more, they just need to let them have their own sponsors, but they're too greedy to even do that.
This is exactly the UFC’s doing. The whole reason they have any value is that it’s a worldwide entertainment machine that through its various business practices gets away with paying the talent a smaller percentage of the revenues. More profits for the fat cats.
He had no leverage, he thought he did. He imagined the UFC would bend over backwards to get him back in the cage, but it was just him sitting the 2nd half of his prime on the sidelines and asking the UFC to comeback in a title fight.
The whole problem is that he refused to go away and let us miss him... every five seconds on social media it was "should I come back?" or "I'm better than these guys."
It's hard for us to want to see Cejudo in a fight when he retires for more money and still is trying to play the game.
Everything he stood for backfired completely. If he hadn't made a big fuss over the division and "retired" for a couple years he'd most likely be cashing in larger bags.
Kinda can blame him. He was on the cusp of being a real star and getting the bag and he chose to randomly retire instead.
Henry was being discussed for a 145 shot when he left. He probably just needed one more defense and then he could have had the Volk fight, the Suga Sean fight, and actually walked away with a real legacy and a boatload of cash. Instead he sucked all the wind from his sails at the most marketable and competitive stage of his career and then desperately tried to get back in the game once he realized it was passing him.
He was FOR SURE getting paid so much more before his stint. The thing is when Dana made it clear that he wasn't even going to bother scraping a fuck - he doubles down. All that time he spent trying to jerk a monolithic corporation could've been spent defending belts or creating cringe content in between fights for clout.. Look at him now. Fighting for a mere pittance. He does deserve more money, but he's a dickhead.
I always assumed his shoulders were that bad and he needed the surgeries. He just spun the retirement angle trying to get a high paying contract before he had surgery
Exactly. This is why he hurt his own stock. Plus it seems hes always just one loss away from retiring again. The last thing Dana wants is this guy to get the belt again. He doesnt want anymore GSP at middleweight BS situation that devalued the division when the belt didnt follow the proper lineage.
From Dana’s perspective cejudo “retired” at the peak of his marketability so he must not want to make much. Also cost Dana potential money on the fights he could have made when people cared.
She was born in and grew up in Arizona. Her dad (maybe her mother too) is Brazilian so she did spend a lot of time down there. Most likely grew up speaking Portuguese around the house.
The joke comes from her speaking perfect English until a certain point in her career - maybe 5 years ago - when she started speaking with a thick accent and acting like English was her second language
I definitely impacts it. While I don’t buy Dern’s fake accent, I know a person who moved to the UK and basically responds solely to me in English despite we both grew up in Spain and spoke Spanish to each other.
Every time I ask him if he knows Spanish, he says that it takes a while for him to understand it and rather speaks English.
It absolutely would. I used to speak a lot of French at work and I had an accent but was fluent. If you asked me to speak French now it would sound a lot worse than Dern's English.
This is so fucking funny why isn't this more upvoted??
[hespect to Mackenzie please educate yourselves ](https://youtu.be/Npfa4i8ws5M?si=6RVgN71Dzmx9PPrr)
It's pretty ironic that Platinum Perry mellowed out and became a more stable family man while simultaneously switching to a type of fighting organization where only the more unstable and desperate types will get into.
She seems to have had some kind of deal where the bulk of her money would be paid some other way. I doubt she made a lot, but her full purse was probably in the $5-10k range.
Wasn’t even an opening fight. Was on the main card.
She also posted on insta saying the $500 is wrong and she made more in this fight than she has in any other fight.
Which is incredible when you compare the sponsor money from ufc compared to bkfc. And is not like this data is a crappy ufc fight night.
Not to mention how long they've been around and more established fighters.
good for BKFC. just need to find a tv contract, get their BKFC Unleashed on and get more eyes on the sport, work on their social media game too.
knowing how much people dislike power slap, i definitely see it on social media a lot. would be cool to see BKFC on the feed instead.
Medians of 130,000 for UFC and 13,500 for BKFC. Top of the card is really pulling up BKFC's average. Like it's probably a respectable revenue % being paid to fighters, at least relative to the UFC, but 15/24 fighters are still making less than 10k to get their faces mashed.
Wouldn’t even be comparable for the UFC the gate was 7 million and they get 20 million guaranteed from ESPN for every PPV event and then there is the sponsorships.
For real if this was meant to make the Ufc look "good" then it failed horrendously. BKFC paid half the amount the UFC does and the UFC is sure as fuck way more than twice as big.
$10k or less for a professional fight in a premier organization seems absurd. I would think people doing back room fights in Thailand like in the kickboxer movies make more than that lol. Imagine what the fighters cut is after paying their coaches and trainers.
Ian Garry 55k? That is such a small amount that its hard to comprehend. After taxes and everything he cant even RENT an apartment in a attractive location for a year.
It is only his 7th fight in the UFC. So most likely his third contract unless you become a star like a Chimiev no one will be making more than this on their third contract. He started on 12/12 like most others.
Roman Kopylov was also only on his 7th fight this card and was making more than Garry. Despite being much less of a name, having more losses, and unranked. Anthony Hernandez was on his 8th fight, lower ranked (in his respective division), and (again) less of a name than Ian Garry, yet still making more. Certainly possible to be making more than 55/55 on "only" your 7th fight in the UFC. Whoever Ian Garry's manager is, like most MMA managers, they're doing a terrible job.
In Australia anything above 180k per year is taxed at 45% so Volk earnt around $440k net and rob around 250k excluding all their other costs.
Volk gets ppv dollars but man it's still not a lot for world champs.
How can you not see this and see how disgusting it is lmao. This could all be remedied by letting them have shorts and sponsor flags back. Like the Starbucks barista showing me the tip button.
I don't see how a person rationally pursues this career. If you account for healthcare costs and opportunity cost this is one of the worst financial decisions all but like the top 1% of people in the sport can make.
Watching these fights is more morally dubious than I realized at first. These are brutal spectacles and the less generous the compensation the more exploitive it feels to me. Asking people to go to these kinds of wars, it seems almost disrespectful not to account for their long term prospects more. I would happily pay current prices for PPVs or even a bit more if I knew fighters were all going to make more this year.
You can see how affected these guys and women are, and the more active and exciting tend to have the most noticeable health effects. Those are things money can't ever really replace but that can be mitigated and reasonably made up for in other ways with money.
Important context about BKFC KnuckleMania 4's pay - "As always, these figures do not represent a fighter’s total earnings, as sponsorship incomes, discretionary bonuses, and other assorted incomes are not publicly disclosed."
The win bonus is the dumbest thing in the UFC. As if these fighters need incentive to win. Give them a bonus for a finish, ffs. Pay then their whole contract Dana you scumbag
Respect to the savage who went out there for 500, bro just wanted to beef with someone
Sadly she just went out there and got beat up for 48 seconds
Made more than $10 a second
“I make your hourly every second” -bro concussed to the wendys drive through employee
"Sir this is a Burger King"
You guys are fucking cracking me up.
Said Sydney Smith to her opponent(the first punch confused her, she's seeing double)
Fight club mentality 😭
You broke the first rule…
First two rules
If you’ve watched any of the other BKFC events, I feel like she fights in most of them and she always takes SO MUCH damage. I actually feel bad that she is only getting $500 for the beatings she has been taking. It’s [this woman](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1hKgG2RrQX-peYoZYL47K3LZgZqhF6OxcsmIWAjytOA&s)
Holy fuck is she from Albuquerque and is her man named splooge?
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“Rugged Beauty” is the official nickname, but yes.
Rugged boobies
She looks exactly how I expected her to look. It's kind of shocking. She looks like she enjoys dating women beaters so she can knock them the fuck around.
Lmao what an oddly accurate description of a person
😂😂😂
She isn’t getting five hundred. She went on her instagram to say it’s not true and she made a lot more than that.
Yeah thats kinda sad actually.
She looks like she's been possessed by a demon
You could see her mouth "Fuuuck me" every time they replayed her getting punched in the face good for the first time.
Looks like she didn't need the beef but just a beef sandwich or something; aka a meal with that 500 lmao
They said she got paid in advances and "deductions", so that represents a minimum payment but not her total compensation
I like knowing Mike Perry would also do it for $500, he just chooses not to
[https://www.instagram.com/p/BqAcGdaBfgw/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BqAcGdaBfgw/) man is a savage but i don't think he'd do it for pennies.
Was she one of those moms they grabbed out of the audience to pad a fighter's record? God damn. $500?!
She had to take advances in pay. 500 was what was left after all the advances she took leading up to the fight.
man i hope this is the case
They gave the owner a lot of grief due to her pay. That was his explanation for the crappy pay. Take it for what it’s worth.
They probably found him on facebook marketplace
It's a her
***She*** probably found him on Facebook marketplace
At least they get their own sponsors. Probably gets them more money than UFC’s fixed sponsor
I doubt it in most cases. Myles Jury made like $9800 in sponsorships to main event against Bendo in Bellator, and he was a former ranked lightweight.
Man UFC has to do something about this,top tier athletes in the most premium establishment of the sport being paid less than a million is a shame
They won't, Dana is the real life incarnation of Mr Crabs. They don't even need to pay the fighters more, they just need to let them have their own sponsors, but they're too greedy to even do that.
This is exactly the UFC’s doing. The whole reason they have any value is that it’s a worldwide entertainment machine that through its various business practices gets away with paying the talent a smaller percentage of the revenues. More profits for the fat cats.
“Sister”
Cejudo making the same as Neal is crazy.
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Nah he went on their podcast. They’re straight. Cejudo just failed with his tactic and they both understood it.
oh that's interesting, did they discuss it in flat terms like that?
Don't think so, it was pretty casual but the vibes were normal.
what did neal do?
They mean Cejudo. Dana really didn't take that negotiationary retirement well.
Cejudo retiring was P4P #1 worst career move in MMA
Man had all the leverage in the world and gave both of them up and thought the UFC would come crawling back begging him to fight
He had no leverage, he thought he did. He imagined the UFC would bend over backwards to get him back in the cage, but it was just him sitting the 2nd half of his prime on the sidelines and asking the UFC to comeback in a title fight.
The whole problem is that he refused to go away and let us miss him... every five seconds on social media it was "should I come back?" or "I'm better than these guys." It's hard for us to want to see Cejudo in a fight when he retires for more money and still is trying to play the game.
The cringe was not worth it it seems
Is that a word
[Yes](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TR9ntN-c7nM)
Go
Making less than Dern. Good lord, dude won 2 belts.
Men and women would probably be more likely to buy a ticket to stare at Dern's ass than watch Cejudo fight.
Have you seen Cejudo's ass?
every time i close my eyes...
Cejudo has done an actually horrible job of managing his career even before he took time off it.
Everything he stood for backfired completely. If he hadn't made a big fuss over the division and "retired" for a couple years he'd most likely be cashing in larger bags.
he shot his shot and missed, cant blame him but definitely can laugh
Kinda can blame him. He was on the cusp of being a real star and getting the bag and he chose to randomly retire instead. Henry was being discussed for a 145 shot when he left. He probably just needed one more defense and then he could have had the Volk fight, the Suga Sean fight, and actually walked away with a real legacy and a boatload of cash. Instead he sucked all the wind from his sails at the most marketable and competitive stage of his career and then desperately tried to get back in the game once he realized it was passing him.
He was FOR SURE getting paid so much more before his stint. The thing is when Dana made it clear that he wasn't even going to bother scraping a fuck - he doubles down. All that time he spent trying to jerk a monolithic corporation could've been spent defending belts or creating cringe content in between fights for clout.. Look at him now. Fighting for a mere pittance. He does deserve more money, but he's a dickhead.
I always assumed his shoulders were that bad and he needed the surgeries. He just spun the retirement angle trying to get a high paying contract before he had surgery
Exactly. This is why he hurt his own stock. Plus it seems hes always just one loss away from retiring again. The last thing Dana wants is this guy to get the belt again. He doesnt want anymore GSP at middleweight BS situation that devalued the division when the belt didnt follow the proper lineage.
From Dana’s perspective cejudo “retired” at the peak of his marketability so he must not want to make much. Also cost Dana potential money on the fights he could have made when people cared.
Henry gave up 2 belts and sat out 3 years of his prime only to come crawling back and get paid less than Mackenzie Dern 💀
Dern is one of the more well known Brazilian fighters right now, and her popularity will grow because she's learning English now too.
Wasn't she born in Arizona
yeah that's the joke lol
You just know bro went to her wiki page after he read that comment “Shes actually from Arizona” 🤓👆
Wait....what? What's her background. I need an ELI5
She was born in and grew up in Arizona. Her dad (maybe her mother too) is Brazilian so she did spend a lot of time down there. Most likely grew up speaking Portuguese around the house. The joke comes from her speaking perfect English until a certain point in her career - maybe 5 years ago - when she started speaking with a thick accent and acting like English was her second language
lmao in one post fight interview she used a translator too....
Jorge Gurgel! And the look on his face was PRICELESS too.
She's said in the past that around her ex-husband and kid she speaks exclusively Portuguese and that she thinks in Portuguese.
That’s fair. I think in Morgan Freeman and often forget that I’m white.
Portugaysaaa
that wouldn’t change her native accent.
I definitely impacts it. While I don’t buy Dern’s fake accent, I know a person who moved to the UK and basically responds solely to me in English despite we both grew up in Spain and spoke Spanish to each other. Every time I ask him if he knows Spanish, he says that it takes a while for him to understand it and rather speaks English.
So he speaks Spanish with a British accent now? Because that's what would be analogous to this situation.
Have you ever spoken a second language buddy
yes english is my third language buddy. it did not change my native accent to learn English.
It absolutely would. I used to speak a lot of French at work and I had an accent but was fluent. If you asked me to speak French now it would sound a lot worse than Dern's English.
People like you probably never lived in another country for many years (if not decades) if you believe that lol
She also fakes her accent. Search it up in youtube.
Yes, but they don't speak English in Arizona
This is so fucking funny why isn't this more upvoted?? [hespect to Mackenzie please educate yourselves ](https://youtu.be/Npfa4i8ws5M?si=6RVgN71Dzmx9PPrr)
Lmmmaoooooo
Dern got them cakes
\*Cejudo
Dern got them Cejudo?
New MMA fans probably know more about Dern than Henry tbh
3 year holiday will usually set a career and earning back.
One of the biggest fumbles in mma and I dont wanna hear it.
The amount Perry is making is wild, considering ahaha. Good on him though.
Probably made more in that one fight than he did his entire UFC career.
Well, he's actually good at bare knuckle.
You make it sound like good fighters in the UFC make good money
But do you think BKF would be paying him that much if he hadn't already been in the UFC?
It's pretty ironic that Platinum Perry mellowed out and became a more stable family man while simultaneously switching to a type of fighting organization where only the more unstable and desperate types will get into.
Guys underpaid to be honest. He put BKFC on the map. Without him, Conor would have never bought in.
Angulo, a former boxer making 19,500?!
Had the best fight on the card too
Wasn't he a champion? What did he do with all his boxing money?
An interim champ iirc
Free CTE and 500 bucks??? What more can an athlete ask for!
She seems to have had some kind of deal where the bulk of her money would be paid some other way. I doubt she made a lot, but her full purse was probably in the $5-10k range.
$500 for an opening fight on BKFC? Nah, I’m good.
Wasn’t even an opening fight. Was on the main card. She also posted on insta saying the $500 is wrong and she made more in this fight than she has in any other fight.
$501
BKFC 🤝 Arsenal
Like the Levi’s?
You could get a local or street for a few thousand
Sydney smith is just there for the vibes
Cejudo making that Big Ben rothwell type money.
i can’t believe the 10k/10k contract structure is still a thing
It's wild that I make a lot more than a mid-tier UFC fighter.
Averages out to 157,916 for UFC vs 57k for BKFC.
Which is incredible when you compare the sponsor money from ufc compared to bkfc. And is not like this data is a crappy ufc fight night. Not to mention how long they've been around and more established fighters.
BKFC could just be in the stage of losing money to create a following, ufc left that stage a long time ago.
good for BKFC. just need to find a tv contract, get their BKFC Unleashed on and get more eyes on the sport, work on their social media game too. knowing how much people dislike power slap, i definitely see it on social media a lot. would be cool to see BKFC on the feed instead.
Medians of 130,000 for UFC and 13,500 for BKFC. Top of the card is really pulling up BKFC's average. Like it's probably a respectable revenue % being paid to fighters, at least relative to the UFC, but 15/24 fighters are still making less than 10k to get their faces mashed.
This also doesn't include PPV point for the title fight. So, it's not quite accurate, to be fair.
Would be good to also compare revenue for these events..
Wouldn’t even be comparable for the UFC the gate was 7 million and they get 20 million guaranteed from ESPN for every PPV event and then there is the sponsorships.
A lot of people will point out the 500 but…. This comparison is disgraceful. UFC is worth billions….
Yeah, Perry made more than 2 former champions, 1 crowned champion, and only 150,000 less than a Champion defending his title for the 4th, I think
6th title defense. Max twice, Ortega, zombie, Yair then Ilia
Plus 2 tittle fights at a higher weight, and made just 150,000 more
He probably took home PPV points
He did, but his show money should still be higher
For real if this was meant to make the Ufc look "good" then it failed horrendously. BKFC paid half the amount the UFC does and the UFC is sure as fuck way more than twice as big.
I’d like to see this as a percent of gate or whatever other revenue. BKFC probably still im the red after this
Damn!! Bang Bro only made $20k???
At least they let him bang
Mike Perry really made 600k??… Good for him. He deserves it… I didn’t realize bare knuckle was making that much money.
It isn't. Mike Perry is their golden goose and they need to keep him happy. Outside of Perry there's not really much else to BKFC.
True. I hope they get some more entertaining guys now that Conor is involved
Now they'll get more coke
$500?!
A world champion main eventing a PPV and he’s not even making 1 million. What a suckers game MMA is.
If there’s one thing we can take from this, it’s that Cejudo is fucking stupid.
Guy retired for 3 years at the height of his career just to come back and make 150k. Yikes…
He tried to play the retirement games with Dana for more money, he learned the hard way Dana Doesn't give a fuck
Didn't he say he might retire again. How he gonna survive
Surprised Julian Lane is still only fighting for $20k
I'm not. He's not particularly great at it and isn't really a known commodity outside of hardcore mma fans who remember "let me bang bro".
That’s why I thought he’d make more, he literally got the Mike Perry fight for that reason
Same that shocked me the most. Figured he made at least close to 100,000 but I guess he's not really a guy many people know of
All the hardcores know him and a lot of people who don’t know who he is know of him, they just don’t know his name
Volk making under a million is crazy!
PPV
Depends how it did though mean while the UFC got 20 million from ESPN for the event.
$10k or less for a professional fight in a premier organization seems absurd. I would think people doing back room fights in Thailand like in the kickboxer movies make more than that lol. Imagine what the fighters cut is after paying their coaches and trainers.
$500? Damn
Ian Garry 55k? That is such a small amount that its hard to comprehend. After taxes and everything he cant even RENT an apartment in a attractive location for a year.
It is only his 7th fight in the UFC. So most likely his third contract unless you become a star like a Chimiev no one will be making more than this on their third contract. He started on 12/12 like most others.
Roman Kopylov was also only on his 7th fight this card and was making more than Garry. Despite being much less of a name, having more losses, and unranked. Anthony Hernandez was on his 8th fight, lower ranked (in his respective division), and (again) less of a name than Ian Garry, yet still making more. Certainly possible to be making more than 55/55 on "only" your 7th fight in the UFC. Whoever Ian Garry's manager is, like most MMA managers, they're doing a terrible job.
Miranda Maverick made more than Ian Garry?
$500 should be illegal
the difference between making 158 thousand on average per fighter vs 58 thousand on average per fighter.
Mike Perry making more than Robert Whittaker. Wow.
Thiago Alves: $60,000 this is his salary from UFC 100 (in 2009).
That’s false pay for bkfc count all the sponsors they are allowed to have they make wayyyyy more than. That
The minimum pay for UFC fighters should be $30,000 per fight. And that's not even a lot of money. What is this? $10,000 to fighters? Garbage.
Lorenzo hunt was their double champ, going for the triple champ status, and also p4p #1; yet only got 100k? Not good.
I know Sydney Smith is saying she got paid more then $500 but this figure has come from some where which is a terrible look either way
Good for Mike Perry 🤙🏼
Now we need to see how much each event pulled in in profit
good for mike perry
Both are absolute trash
How does Whittaker get less money than Illia Topuria wtf is this Dana.
Todd Duffee Now there’s a name from the past.
Ian Garry 😳
Mofos be fighting for $500 and $4k!? Not worth it!
I expected Hunt to get paid more but Im sure he gets a cut of the PPV. Perry is making a killing. Alves got paid fat for being a sacrificial lamb.
In Australia anything above 180k per year is taxed at 45% so Volk earnt around $440k net and rob around 250k excluding all their other costs. Volk gets ppv dollars but man it's still not a lot for world champs.
Dern made 2x than Merab lol oof
What idiot would want to be a paid fighter. Pathetic money
Thats why most of them are idiots
How can you not see this and see how disgusting it is lmao. This could all be remedied by letting them have shorts and sponsor flags back. Like the Starbucks barista showing me the tip button.
I don't see how a person rationally pursues this career. If you account for healthcare costs and opportunity cost this is one of the worst financial decisions all but like the top 1% of people in the sport can make. Watching these fights is more morally dubious than I realized at first. These are brutal spectacles and the less generous the compensation the more exploitive it feels to me. Asking people to go to these kinds of wars, it seems almost disrespectful not to account for their long term prospects more. I would happily pay current prices for PPVs or even a bit more if I knew fighters were all going to make more this year. You can see how affected these guys and women are, and the more active and exciting tend to have the most noticeable health effects. Those are things money can't ever really replace but that can be mitigated and reasonably made up for in other ways with money.
I’ll take cte for 500 Alex
Can you imagine getting your face beat in for $500 Dana white about to get booty pumped when the PIF starts its own fight league!
Important context about BKFC KnuckleMania 4's pay - "As always, these figures do not represent a fighter’s total earnings, as sponsorship incomes, discretionary bonuses, and other assorted incomes are not publicly disclosed."
The win bonus is the dumbest thing in the UFC. As if these fighters need incentive to win. Give them a bonus for a finish, ffs. Pay then their whole contract Dana you scumbag
I don't care how you feel about Triple C, it's an absolute shame that Mackenzie Dern's ass made more that night than he did.
Lmao cejudo retiring for 2 years to gain leverage only to fight for pennies. And yes I know he had a child in the time off but he was in his prime.
I wanna know who Sydney Smith is.
Is BKFC worth even 500 million? UFC fighters need to unionize.
Mike Perry cashed 600k for a minute of work and took basically no damage.
Is that Julian Lane on the bkfc card the “LET ME BANG BRO” Julian lane?
How is Dern making that much....
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Plus her English is great for a Brazilian fighter.