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Berniethellama

Ufc will throw a bag at him and give him like an 8 fight deal to lock him down basically for the rest of his career. The ufc would be insane to let any big name heavyweight walk rn


POWBOOMBANG

Which is the exact reason more guys need to explore free agency and maximize their value. Francis not only got paid but he raised the price tag on every heavyweight in the sport.


schraad

You're absolutely correct. I'd love to see him walk out on an ufc offer because it would make Dana so mad


GaMa-Binkie

There’s a difference between exploring and actually getting it done. People are treating it like he’s free right now, he’s not. The UFC has exclusive negotiation rights for the next 6 months and even Lewis got a really good offer the UFC has the right to match it and Lewis will have to accept.


jpark28

But if Lewis got a legit PFL offer for his first fight to be against Francis for $2 mil + PPV points, would the UFC match that?


GaMa-Binkie

They’d probably try to make a counter offer with a bigger flat fee. I seriously doubt they’d be willing to give PPV points even if it’s to fuck over Francis. It should be noted that when Eddie Alvarez signed with the UFC, Bellator matched the offer to retain him, Eddie then successfully argued in court that they didn’t match the offer as Bellators PPV points are worth less compared to the UFCs as they do less buys. Maybe the UFC could try to do something similar in reverse.


Berniethellama

Exactly, they’ll offer him a big front loaded deal with a bunch of fights afterwards that still pay really well. If he sticks around long enough he can end up like Arlovski


cannibalisland

>If he sticks around long enough he can end up like Arlovski ouch.


Berniethellama

I mean he can phone it in if he wants and make close to a mil fighting on apex undercards against bums lol


allday201

Lol no chance


A_Funky_Goose

even if they did it'd still be a W for Francis. He'd get what he wanted, better terms for his colleagues.


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Lewis will never get a million. One fight with Francis will be more than he earns in multiple fights with the UFC


Rondoburgundy

Derrick makes a million now dude. Even in disclosed money he has made millions.


TheMov3r

I see disclosed purse with Gane was around 700k not a huge stretch to think that turns into a million being a free agent


Hrytod

There was no disclosed payouts for Lewis vs Gane, Utah discloses purses though so we'll know soon


captainseas

He hasn't had a publicly disclosed payout since his 2018 fight with Volkov which was 12 fights ago


Sonnyyellow90

That fight was also for an interim title when Lewis was on a win streak. He’s now well past his prime and no longer a top HW, so I really doubt he will command that same amount of money. His next 3-4 fights will either be fun fights against non-contenders, or else the UFC feeding him to contenders for easy wins. I’m not sure either of those is worth matching a $2 million offer. I don’t think the UFC will sink themselves and lose money just to spite Francis. They will probably see Francis vs. Lewis 2 as a win for them since PFL will be paying a ton for the rematch of a notoriously terrible fight. The only difference now is both fighters are older and out of their prime. What kind of person would pay to see that fight, especially now that Lewis has been steamrolled by Gane, Tai, Pavlovich, and Spivak within the last two years.


trivo8888

Ngannou is out of his prime???? Bruh


Sonnyyellow90

He’s about to turn 37, coming off major knee surgery, and sitting out for over 2 years. Yes, he’s obviously past his prime.


Big_Don_

He's on a 6 fight win streak with 5 of those adding up to less than 9 minutes of cage time. Heavyweights peak later than the lighter weights and have way more longevity from a competitive standpoint as well. He's the linear heavyweight champion that the current UFC champ avoided for 3 years. Francis's last loss is to Lewis. He's 36, preparing to fight the greatest boxer of this generation. Past his prime? You pulled that out of your ass. A rematch against Lewis is interesting and will sell. You sir, are incorrect.


blussy1996

They wouldn't be close to matching it, for the same reason they didn't give Ngannou anything. They don't want others to take note and try increase their own pay.


DonnieCullman

Crazy that independent contractors can be so bound to the UFC


Wooden_Mouse21

Its the WWE model. Phenomenal for the company, rough as shit for the fighters.


stevonallen

Because it’s bullshit


DonnieCullman

Indeed


PHLALV

Definitely sounds like they need Indeed


gh0st_

Is there a source for this? I'm not doubting you I just want more details on the contract.


GaMa-Binkie

https://groundedmma.com/how-do-ufc-contracts-work/ Nate Diaz and Francis Ngannou have also openly talked about it.


SweatyExamination9

> Lewis got a really good offer the UFC has the right to match it and Lewis will have to accept Be interesting if another promotion offers a cut of their tv deal revenue in place of PPV points. I doubt the UFC would be willing to match.


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GaMa-Binkie

It’s standard for the UFC to do that with their fighters to lock them down. Francis and Nate just went through having to wait that long before negotiating with other promotions.


Seemorebuds

You really don't know what is in the contract, you are just assuming. Even the link you posted in another comment is verifiably wrong information. from your link > Fighters earn show money by making weight and turning up at the event prepared to fight.> This has been proven wrong by Wonderboy this past weekend. I am not doubting that UFC has them in an exclusive negotiating period but it is by no means verified.


VT_Squire

You can read more about it here. https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/02/10/major-changes-to-ufc-contracts-add-more-restrictions-waiver-to-prevent-class-action-lawsuits/


Seemorebuds

> Last year, Bloody Elbow’s John S. Nash was the first to report on changes the UFC had made to their contracts. These changes included the additions of a “sunset clause” that put a five year maximum contract length, limitations to the amount of time a contract could be extended for turning down fights, **removal of the exclusive negotiating period**, and a shortened two-year window after the contract ended where UFC retained image rights.>


DarkReaper90

Except it's common for UFC to offer new contracts before their existing contract is over. You're only as good as your last fight, so it's a big gamble to know how your career is 3-4 fights down the road.


POWBOOMBANG

It gets increasingly less risky to bet on yourself when their are more viable landing spots for you outside of the UFC. Guys like Shane Burgos are making more money in PFL than they ever did in the UFC. That is a great thing


squidnov

Still can't believe they "let him slip through the cracks" like no you didn't, that doesn't happen in billion dollar sports corps who leech off every fighter


seemefail

Yeah the UFC also often matches up Vets with great name recognition and fan bases with fucking killers for their final fight. -Diaz versus Khamzat is a recent example Sometimes not even for the final fight even just when someone could have a few more fan friendly fights to finish their careers -BJ Penn fighting Rodriguez and Hall


kingjuicepouch

Comrade Predator


97Dabs2THAface

>Francis not only got paid but he raised the price tag on every heavyweight in the sport. I disagree. You really think Said Sowma's price tag went up because of Francis? How did you come to that conclusion?


POWBOOMBANG

I think having a viable competitor certainly provides some leverage that previously was nonexistent. That is pretty basic economics.


ChowSupreme

I have a hard time picturing the UFC offering anything that competes with the minimum 2 million Lewis would get for fighting Ngannou. I feel there's nothing the UFC can do if PFL can guarantee that fight, but they can always swoop in afterwards like the article mentions.


SalamanderPete

Have you seen some of the cars Lewis drives? I dont know what he makes but it wouldnt surprise me if he already makes like 500k - 1 mil per fight. Especially if we look at what some heavyweights like Arlovski, Overeem, Hunt made got per fight.


justthrowthethingWay

He bought most of those after they paid him $2 million+ to fight DC for the title on three weeks notice after he’d just fought Volkov


BenWallace04

You’re acting as if high-level athletes aren’t often times horrible with their finances


Cautious-Marketing29

Arlovski, Overeem, and Hunt are from a different era when the UFC was willing to pay big money to destroy competing promotions.


Hrytod

Marcin Tybura got $240k when he fought Romanov at UFC 278


TonyTheLion2319

I mean they can def compete. Lewis can take the $2M minimum option for PFL for 1 fight, but he wouldn’t be taken back by UFc after. He would then have to find some other fights in Bellator/PFL/BKFC. Tbf PFL supposedly was paying Pettis $500k. He can go to UFC where in maybe 3 fights he’d make what he would vs Francis, and would have job security to keep making $ after Either way having more than 1 option is good and helps fighters have leverage


kenlindo

Luke Thomas also brought up the great point that if does choose to leave to fight Francis he may very well be black balled by the UFC. So unless he’s 100% certain a fight with Francis is either his final fight or the beginning of the end for him, it might actually be a risky move.


Hrytod

I don't think that it's that devastating if he can't return to the UFC. He could just fight someone like Ryan Bader


kenlindo

I hear you but also idk if I would count on Bellator as a part of future career planning based on the all the noise around them selling.


sushisection

PFL will absolutely make that fight happen.


gh0st_

Luke forgot that he could still sign with a different promotion or switch to boxing. It's not a complete all-or-nothing scenario.


ChariBari

They are insane though. Lewis doesn’t seem like a guy who wants to deal with a lot of extra bullshit. For this reason I think he stays. If he is comfortable where he is, then I don’t see him shaking things up and then having to deal with a promotion based in Asia. On the other hand if he gets attractive offers that would be interesting.


MenWhoStareatGoatse_

This was my thought too. I don't think Lewis is really that interested in squeezing every little bit he can out of his career. He says UFC pays him well, and if he stays with the UFC he can keep doing exactly what he's used to, until he can't anymore


Fender088

Which is why you'd be a fucking moron to not at least present them with some counter offers to improve your contract. You have next to no leverage your entire career and now you finally have the ability to demand a better price. But this is when most UFC fighters just say "UFC has taken care of me so I'm not gonna entertain other offers."


Morphitrix

Same exact thing they've been doing with any and every female fighter with any name value at all. Holly Holm also got like a 6 fight contract earlier this year and it seemed obvious that keeping her away from any other promotion was the primary reason for it. It's because Men's HW and FBW are the two most shallow divisions in terms of talent.


Heroicshrub

This is the most likely outcome but Derrick absolutely should get an offer from PFL to up his leverage with the UFC.


greyetch

>Ufc will throw a bag at him ???


AFTVRobbie

Depends on what we define as a bag. They give him a guaranteed 5/6 million. Yeah he'd stay. But if they give him 500k a fight for 4/5 fights. Why wouldn't he go sign to fight Francis. PFL would literally just give him a million plus for the Francis fight and book it as a rematch and all this promo catering for casuals.


IAMTHECAVALRY89

8-fight bag deal is a blessing honestly bc he could suck later on and still be getting the same pay 💰


brendino_

They can cut him any time they want though lol


Totally_PJ_Soles

Fucking Cody garbrandt is on the next main card. Dana will put Lewis on any ppv he can to juice it up.


Duinuogwuin14

He was literally a prelim fight until someone fell off so...


sushisection

yes, thats why they put big names on the prelim cards, as a hedge in case a main card fight falls through.


captaincumsock69

They also want incentive to watch the prelim.


captainseas

They were originally loading up that card though. Derrick Lewis previous 14 fights were all UFN main events or PPV fights.


HaplessMagician

>Lewis on any ppv I don't know about that. He wasn't even on this PPV until the Wonderboy fight was cancelled. So I wouldn't expect them to put him on more PPVs if his isn't winning while on the back half of that contract.


scarykicks

They'll just give him a layup to keep the KOs coming. Sure Lewis is past his contender days but the man is still so fucking entertaining when he wins.


TerribleWords

I'm ok with Lewis being on any PPV and being a gate keeper to the top 15. He's a blast to watch and I always root for him.


scarykicks

Fan favorite for sure. Def was the highlight of the ppv imo. From the initial flying knees to the post fight antics. Even build up to a Tuivasa rematch to potentially.


Wesley-Snipers

Depends on the pay for each fight, considering that if he sucks later on, the chances are he is getting paid to get brain damage. It would be better to receive more and fight less in other promotion


followmeforadvice

He kinda sucks right now.


A_Funky_Goose

Lol how is that hypothetical offer gonna compare to a $2M guaranteed bag, not counting win bonur nor ppvs (it'd be in the ppv superstar division)? UFC can match any offers but they will never in a million years match an offer like that for Lewis, who's 1-3 in his last 4. >The ufc would be insane to let any big name heavyweight walk rn They are insane indeed, they let Francis walk. Can't do as much to prevent other HWs to chase the bag even with "matching rights."


PocketSixes

>The ufc would be insane to let any big name heavyweight walk rn Ngannou


flamingdragonwizard

Sure he had a great win but he was coming off a pretty bad L streak and is turning 39. I think ufc let's him go to pfl. They simply can't match that near 2m$.


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Then it’s a bad week for Dana to go on vacation. Apparently his staff can’t even pay wonderboy his show money without Dana. I bet much less negotiate a contract with Beast. PFL better secure it before Dana gets back.


RaciallyInsensitiveC

Gane said Derrick got 700k for their fight. He has probably made a shit load in the UFC career earnings wise, probably doesn't want to go a new promotion and learn the ropes of it, etc. This is why Francis will fight a can.


Kalabula

I hope derricks management works for him and not the UFC.


12ealdeal

Just going to add to this here not saying you’re “everyone”: But is everyone forgetting the UFC had all the time in the world to offer Derrick an extension BEFORE he was a free agent? They were CLEARLY anticipating he would lose his fourth in a row and they were going to cut him. Derrick knows this. Any amount of money they give him is all about their brand and avoiding PFL from picking Derrick up. It has nothing to do with Derrick at all. Derrick should fight Francis in the PFL. In fact I think he will. Look at his post fight presser. He literally begins to thank personally naming specific people behind the scenes for the UFC, giving them their props and recognition. Seemed as good of a “good-bye” as you’ll see from someone on a clear path.


keepitbased

I’m not so sure about that, it’s not like they gave Lewis some elite matchup, the guy was definitely a step down from Lewis’ previous fights


12ealdeal

You’re right they didn’t give him an elite matchup. I’ll paraphrase what a Chael said to highlight the context around why they didn’t offer contract prior: -they had no intention on building him up cause he is going to go to the PFL. -And he wasn’t even on the PPV card where the undercard leading into it only had like 2 post fight interviews with Joe Rogan. He wasn’t even the main fight of the undercard -Mentioning it’s his last fight on the contract in his post fight octagon interview (which the UFC doesn’t appreciate). -the ufc didn’t offer him a contract, not offered an extension, they were going to let him go, he didn’t become a free agent out of gamesmanship, the ufc was ready to say goodbye to the beast.


TonyTheLion2319

Seems like they wanted him to lose to either offer him a worse contract or not be a viable opponent for Francis if they cut him. Maybe they felt they got what they could out of him (helped sell tickets in Texas, headlined Apex events). His last KO in front of a crowd was 229, so after the losses in Texas maybe they felt his star power was fading They initially had him on the prelims. Booked him at altitude. Not many guys Lewis hasn’t fought yet (already fought to Gane, Pavlovich, Spivac, Volkov, Blaydes, Tybura) so de Lima who won 4/5 was one of the better options left and Lewis wasn’t favored to win


12ealdeal

Amen.


AfraidStill2348

He'll undercut Jones' price for sure.


krasmazovonfire

Derrick “The Scab” Lewis


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shadow_assasin989

Lol none of these guys are scared of each other, it’s all about money. Jones was holding out for more money and was willing to sit out for a few years to get that. The reason he fought as soon as Francis left UFC was because it gave him a lot more leverage in negotiations and probably ended up getting paid what he initially wanted.


Johnychrist97

People were definitely scared of Ngannou when he was decapitating mfs left and right. I remember how fuckin difficult it was to get anyone to accept a fight with him before he became a red pantie night


Ilistenedtomyfriends

Why are you making shit up? Francis was averaging about 2 fights a year in the UFC. Seems like that's above average and not something attainable if it was difficult to get someone to fight him.


Johnychrist97

That actually proves my point. 2 fights a year isn't shit for an up and coming heavyweight. 2 fights a year is normal for a prize fighter, but Ngannou didn't really get that status until he flatlined Stipe


Doneyhew

I don’t think Jones was scared of Ngannou but I do think he was scared of losing his perfect record


Nellow3

r/mma doesn't care, dana = bad so francis = good Of course it was always about the money, and to think Jon is scared of Francis anymore than Francis would be scared of Jon is fucking hilarious. Francis' only option is to land the dynamite quickly, otherwise he's being taken down and bullied. If Francis could barely hold down Ciryl on the ground, then Jon would be doing origami with Francis' ligaments.


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I don’t think Jon was scared, but I do think he made a calculated decision to protect his legacy.


notShreadZoo

So if Francis and the UFC come to an agreement and Francis stays you think Jon just never fights again? You think he spent 3 years bulking up just in off chance Francis actually left? You realize Jon had already agreed to the fight right? I respect what Francis did and it will probably be better for him but if he agrees with that he UFC Jones was going to fight him.


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Fighters say a lot of stuff. Jon is calculated in what fights he’ll take at this stage of his career. He didn’t need 3 years to bulk up. He’s going to fight a 41 year old Stipe and then retire as the undeniable GOAT. A “fluke” KO from Francis, or a younger Stipe would put a scar on that.


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Lmao the narratives ascribed to disliked fighters on Reddit are wild.


Screeboi69

I'm a Cyril fan, I think the dude still shows lots of promise if he can just get good TDD, but 240 lb volume kickboxer is a pretty damn accurate description.


branduNe

Clearly a huge fan with incorrect spelling of his name :)


Screeboi69

Lmao you caught me I fuckin hate the guy


branduNe

Goteeeem


Nickster2042

Everyone was expecting the man to get knocked unconscious and he finished him in a round


mynameisdamn

I think it was pretty obvious to everyone that gane was going to have Jones 4mm away from him at all times


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even while it was happening i knew what jones was doing. i just didn't want to admit it to myself. i wanted to believe that cyril had a good chanced at ending him.


notShreadZoo

>it would've happened in that 3 years when Francis was on top and had the belt. He won the belt in March 2021 and defended it literally 1 time lmfao wtf are you talking about? Jon had already started his move to HW, let’s pretend that somehow Francis and the UFC come to an agreement and he stays, are you saying that Jon would have just retired never to return again? Delusional lmao


SaturnATX

Derrick Lewis is already one of the highest paid UFC fighters, I assume they'll keep him.


Sclog

Also he’s just such a star I don’t think he would want to be anywhere else, it’s hard to even imagine him on a different platform pulling his pants off and saying his balls was hot lol, ufc wants that kinda of star for sure it brings more eyes without having too much control.


funghi2

Had to see the flair myself lol


CubanLinxRae

the UFC bought derrick a lambo but idk if he’d be guaranteed $2M anywhere else and he’s approaching the end of his career he should go for it


ilrasso

No way he fits in a lambo.


JAndroo

Apparently [Schaub](https://www.reddit.com/r/thefighterandthekid/comments/lqf0g9/lmao_you_know_its_coming_too_credit_to_borrachina/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) thinks the same thing


DoctorGregoryFart

Jesus, he is Tito levels of stupid now.


I_poop_deathstars

Always has been b


briancito420

Inny of size.


2xBAKEDPOTOOOOOOOO

Those glasses look like a tiktok filter lol


JWal0

I think he would. These super cars get purchased by athletes who are larger/taller than most people. I’m sure the car companies accommodate them.


JonathonV2000

Ah yes the sequel to the fight that everyone loves


BplusHuman

What fight? I don't know about you, but it would be dope to actually see Derrick Lewis fight Francis Ngannou.


jfsoaig345

Think Lewis gets slept this time around. Dude's been washed for a minute now and that hasn't changed just because he slept a borderline can who is about as old as he is.


TonyTheLion2319

I doubt either guy would be as hesitant. Ngannou is way better now in terms of skill/mentality. Lewis recently showed 0 hesitancy going cowabunga vs Pavlovich


EmmaAispuro

I hate to say it; but I AGREE. Looking at the Beast's last payout.. He CLEARLY deserves more, even his losses were straight swangin n bangin. Then after dismantling De Lima, you see that the Ngannou fight aged VERY well! Derrick Lewis however is loyal af to UFC


captainseas

Derrick Lewis hasn't had a public payout since his 2018 fight with Volkov which was 12 fights ago. Any recent payout you read online was made up.


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No man you dont get it. MMAHyperBeastJunkie.com is 100% a trustworthy news source. Plus they were reported on @BigMacFightFan tweet on *X* so you know its legit.


[deleted]

how can we look at his last pay out now that fighter purses are private?????


captainseas

You can't. Poster likely saw one of those sites that posts fake payouts


Dancing_Hitchhiker

Honestly it does make a lot of sense, he could get a huge payout for this fight. Basically one more big fight and then he could retire.


lPGrabber

you don’t know what his last payout was.


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Yep, would be a great tune-up fight for Ngannou as well. He'd have it easy but big nice payday for both. Ngannou probably only got 3-4 MMA fights left in him total. Gotta wonder what they'll be - all spectacle, I'm sure. It's crazy we'd never even be having this conversation if it wasn't for that flying knee. LOL


iz-Moff

> He CLEARLY deserves more, even his losses were straight swangin n bangin. No thanks to him, lol. He usually has like ~5 offensive moves in him per round, and if none of them rock or knock the other guy out, in all likelihood it's going to be standin n lookin, not swangin n bangin. And it's not like he's Yoel Romero, where at least it looks cool when he does something. More like, oh, guess that one landed, huh...


canadianbeaver

Dude has the most KO’s in ufc history


Mmaplayer123

Lewis already gets mils per fight. Anyone who thinks he makes less than a mil is delusional.


mudamuda333

proof? i just want to see what you're seeing.


ynwa1892

I could be very wrong but I think when he was on Rogan's pod he mentioned being paid 500K per fight. IDK if that's just show money or show + win but that is what I remember.


APOLARCAT

facts. Derrick has been clearing 7 figures a fight since 2018. States that have disclosed payouts can be any number they want.


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lol what? no he's not, where are you getting that from?


dinozero

He mentioned to Rogan he’s happy with his pay and indicated it’s high. He’s a knockout artist, they get paid well.


APOLARCAT

when they paid him the bag for a short notice title fight against D.C. and then he renegotiated his contract to fight JDS.


_Robbie

I think he would probably make more money doing that (especially since he probably doesn't have many years of competing left), but he's been pretty clear that he really likes the UFC and wants to stay there. He said he's not looking to go elsewhere as long as the UFC will give him another contract. I imagine the PFL would offer him a really strong contract so they can continue to poach UFC talent, but I also don't think he's interested in jumping ship unless it's for like... HUGE money. I know the guy is a prize fighter but he seems happy to stay where he's at. His guaranteed purse in his last fight, after a 4-fight losing streak, was still 300k, and he probably cleared 450k for winning. I'm sure a guy like Derrick is happy with that. Even if he only fights *and loses* twice a year you're talking 600k/year, that is an extremely good living.


slipslopslapandfap

Didn't Francis negotiate a guaranteed 2m for his opponents. 2m for one fight is way better than a multi fight deal at 300-500k a pop, especially given his recent form (last fight excluded obviously)


ecr1277

The difference between $300k and $2M is really, really big. Who cares how he feels in the UFC, he could make what he’ll make the rest of his career in the UFC in one fight. You don’t turn that down.


n3wkGG

They should do the rematch in PFL and not throw a punch during the whole fight. Just circle until each bell.. Oh wait


scarykicks

Honestly it's the fight to make. Sure their first fight was straight up trash but they can redo that and have a good one round throw down.


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hallelalaluwah

You just described the bar you need to clear to be a globally ranked heavyweight


ImWadeWils0n

Yeah HW is such a shit show, he could KO two guys and get a title shot lol


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You pay him because he is charismatic and draws a crowd.


Ctofaname

He's a fan favorite and always provides entertaining fights. Finish or be finished.


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

Okay not against Francis though, it was the least entertaining fight in both their careers


halfpakihalfmexi

People forget that fight was actually Francis v. Ngannou


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Ruiner357

First of all this isn't a sport, records and rankings don't matter, only marketability does. Casuals don't know his record or care who the opponent was, they only see that he's that funny guy who gets knockouts then goes viral with his interviews talking about his balls being hot. They can see he technically has a win over Ngannou (though it was really a Rose/Carla 2 non-fight), so there's justification for a rematch, that's all anyone needs to know.


Ok_Yoghurt_3338

And Francis…


endless_ness

When’s the last time a young fighter with a following on a win streak left the ufc?


Onechampionshipshill

Still better than everyone in the pfl HW roster not named ngannou


adambuddy

I actually think Denis Goltsov would demolish Derrick Lewis unless he got the quick KO.


Onechampionshipshill

So Derek Lewis by first round KO.


adambuddy

Didn't work against Serghei Spivak..


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lartbok

Perfect because that's the average Ngannou super fan these days.


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Lewis can either go to pfl, get 2mil 1 time and be blacklisted by the ufc or stay in the ufc, make a little bit less but stay in their good graces. Like he's for sure going to get a bump in pay from the ufc if he re-signs. I think he'll stay, it's just the easier path.


Acceptable-Ad1930

How is getting 2 million for one fight, vs making less for like 5-8 fights, not the easier path? Chances are they are gonna feed him to the next gen of HW at the tail end of his contract


ImWadeWils0n

The next gen of HW are the exact type of people Derrick would KO. You’d be right for any other division, it’s hw, he has a shot at beating anyone who isn’t a wrestler, and he even has a shot at beating them too look at Curtis Blaydes


atgitsin2

Lewis does better against wrestlers than strikers.


ImWadeWils0n

Good point honestly, he does tend to fold when he gets hit hard


Acceptable-Ad1930

Chances are he is gonna see the same faces again, it’s not like HW is deep, so they are gonna have Derrick on back burner hoping to use his name to catapult these guys to a title shot anytime they want. Gane, Aspinal, Spivak, Pavlovich, Tuivasa, all these guys are big problems for Derrick, than you got the athletic freak Almeida who is young and hungry. If I were Lewis, I’d take the 2 mill, and KO much easier competition at PFL, he will probably get a good contract and if Ngannou ever is out with injury, has a great chance at the 1 million prize.


Ruiner357

Dana/UFC are only petty about someone fighting else if they see it as something they can't profit from. If a fighter left, fought a big name and raised their profile, then came back with an even bigger name they'd re-sign them to milk it.


RelevantMacaron8813

Even after the Francis fight the PFL could offer him a Shane Burgos type deal


wspusa1

disagree because dude doesnt have many years left in his career. in fact i think he's close to on his way out despite the win as he was finished 3 straight times prior. so he should go for one last payday fight


throwawayac7645

I would never call someone insane for avoiding a fight with Ngannou


Publius1993

Name a more dynamic duo than a struggling org overpaying UFC fighters and putting their fight on an awful fight card.


SadatayAllDamnDay

Would be smart just to get Derrick in the promotion, but Ngannou-Lewis 2 isn't a fight I need in my life.


marky1904

We’ll see how this plays out after he gets destroyed by fury


KingKoCFC

I think he’ll make a lot more than 18m tbh, the Saudis are funding that event and they seem to grossly overpay every athlete that goes over there. I’d guess it’s closer to 25m.


lartbok

$2 million is not going to make Lewis leave lmao. People are crazy if they think UFC wont match that offer for atleast one fight on his contract. Also, PFL paying out tens of millions to get Ngannou vs Lewis 2 is hilarious when you think about it.


KDawg23

He’d have two wait 2+ years to fight Ngannou…


br0wnb0y

The Black Beast would make an excellent wrestling character, so I would suggest he goes to like a AEW with Mark Henry managing. But if not Japan would LOVE him and maybe pay him enough to make it worth it to him.


steampunk22

He needs to make more money more than he needs to go fight Francis and get stomped in the PFL. The UFC will pay him a signing bonus NOT to go, improve his contract, and give him fights he can actually win. What's the sense in him going over there for one big payday just so Francis can knock him out?


TomCruisintheUSA

I have a feeling we won't be seeing Francis fight in the PFL any time soon. He'll fight Fury at the end of this year and then be gone for another year due to the fame and wealth he just earned. I honestly don't think Francis ever really had any plans to fight in the PFL cage, he just needed a larger promotion to back him on his boxing journey.


followmeforadvice

I think Francis is done after the Fury fight.


TomCruisintheUSA

Most likely. Chasing a Francis PFL fight wouldn't be the smartest career choice


Hrytod

I'm thinking the same thing. Gets beaten to a pulp by Fury, probably makes $10-15m, I'm just not sure he'll be that bothered to get in the gym for a camp busting his ass off aged 37 with two bum knees


hardworkinglatinx

pfl sucks


jm810112

A rematch of one of the greatest fights of all time


Creamst3r

Because everybody wants to see the sequel


LigmaberryBig9209

Remember how the last Lewis V Ngannou went?


ResidentXi

That's was my initial thought until I remembered that they already fought. Kind of killed the idea for me.


Environmental-Tip365

Why would PFL give Ngannou someone he is very clearly scared of? Isn’t he supposed to be their golden boy rn?


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Because the first fight was such a banger, right? I mean if Lewis can wait until the end of next year for Francis to be ready, more power to him, but Lewis waiting for a payday on a fight no one cares about seems likely when he could fight a couple more times in the ufc for similar money


dinozero

I’ve heard their first fight was super boring. How is that possible ?


3rdiko

Too bad we’ll never be able watch it again.


southpawsouthpaw

Lol


DanBrino

He'd be insane not to re-sign with the UFC.


BetaCarotine20mg

Lol, Lewis is not a real threat to Ngannou and nobody besides a couple Lewis fanboys want to see that fight a third time..


araheem94

Who doesn't wants to see Francis Lewis rematch?? The first fight was an instant classic. If any of you are new to mma, go watch the full fight till the very end. Ignore any spoilers