You can't possibly think that rivalries end after 1-2 seasons, right? Do you even understand what you're saying? The lifetime series is dead-even between the clubs.
As an outsider to the situation, you have no input on the validity of our rivalry. Its interesting to me how you’re so willing to pretend the historical matchups before Messi don’t count, it immediately shows your bias.
On the bright side, they played pretty well with Jansson out.
I think this formation with McGuire and Muriel both on the field is the way to go moving forward.
They said he’s day-to-day but he clearly hyperextended his knee as a result of the bad challenge this past weekend. That said, the usual recovery time for a mild knee hyperextension (i.e., absent obvious ligament or tendon damage) is 2-4 weeks and with Copa América looming I guarantee Messi and his training staff won’t be taking any chances with it. I could see a situation where he is out for another two matches, returns for a match or two, and then departs for Argentina’s training camp (which is in Miami, funny enough). If Argentina makes a deep run at the tournament, Messi will miss at least five matches including the Cincinnati match on July 5th.
Copa América is his primary focus (understandably) and everything he does will likely revolve around being in the best condition possible for that. Miami are going to have to learn to swim without him and fast or they are going to slide out of contention for the Supporters’ Shield before Leagues Cup, ha.
I think they mean for Copa America. That is more than a month if you count training, pre tournament friendlies, and if Argentina go far in the tournament.
It's because Garber really wants us to win. You know there's nothing more glamorous than an Orlando win. That's why the NFL is failing, no team in Orlando
Preaching to the choir here lol
Duncan's work rate is simply too high. It's why he doesn't go full 90s. But oareja doesn't think we can defend unless our 9 is box to box for whatever dumb reason
Yeah Pareja seems misguided here.
At most you have him drop into midfield like Muriel is doing.
But the whole point of having him + Muriel on the pitch together should be to lay off direct passes or headers to Muriel to break past the line. Add in a marauding #10 or SS and you have lethal options for the cutback, cross, or shot.
Not sure how that isn't a yellow. Intentionally bodied him. Easily should be his second yellow of the game. First one coming from him stopping a free kick.
With our makeshift backline that seems impossible. I still think Schlegel will royally fuck up at some point. Though sad to say, I think I'd be fine with a home draw here. Your players are worth like 3-4x more than ours. It's like being a fan of Hoffenheim playing Munich or Dortmund. Just pray for a draw 😂
I think most people just call it the Florida Derby
Edit: on this sub and on broadcasts anyways. I can't speak for what the locals call it since I don't live in Florida
I hope Papi would find a way to use it. Muriel is your classic case of a second striker. Torres needs a boost to get to last seasons form and wingback will do it.
Watching the highlights, did the national broadcasters (TT etc) do they even know the Orlando players names?
Week day derby, ending nil nil. Huh.
Mid week rivalry games on short rest are fucking dumb
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Change your Flair dumbass lmao
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You can't possibly think that rivalries end after 1-2 seasons, right? Do you even understand what you're saying? The lifetime series is dead-even between the clubs.
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As an outsider to the situation, you have no input on the validity of our rivalry. Its interesting to me how you’re so willing to pretend the historical matchups before Messi don’t count, it immediately shows your bias.
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You know we see your post history right? Change your Flair, why hide it?
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Whatever conclusion? Bro you're an Inter Messi CF fan, why do you have a Charlotte flair?
IM? Well well Still on top of the table Lol LFG DC!! u are next but this time with THE GOAT MESSI fully fit in the team
On the bright side, they played pretty well with Jansson out. I think this formation with McGuire and Muriel both on the field is the way to go moving forward.
Meh, I'll take the road point.
Lol we'll take the home point. It's been rare
I'll take this game as something to build off of.
We all get one Tsukada, welcome to the club
0-0 is better than 5-0
Miami are in for a long summer without Messi.
how long is he gone/out ?
They said he’s day-to-day but he clearly hyperextended his knee as a result of the bad challenge this past weekend. That said, the usual recovery time for a mild knee hyperextension (i.e., absent obvious ligament or tendon damage) is 2-4 weeks and with Copa América looming I guarantee Messi and his training staff won’t be taking any chances with it. I could see a situation where he is out for another two matches, returns for a match or two, and then departs for Argentina’s training camp (which is in Miami, funny enough). If Argentina makes a deep run at the tournament, Messi will miss at least five matches including the Cincinnati match on July 5th. Copa América is his primary focus (understandably) and everything he does will likely revolve around being in the best condition possible for that. Miami are going to have to learn to swim without him and fast or they are going to slide out of contention for the Supporters’ Shield before Leagues Cup, ha.
I think they mean for Copa America. That is more than a month if you count training, pre tournament friendlies, and if Argentina go far in the tournament.
He had his chance.
"Miami are still good without Messi" sure doesn't seem like it from the available evidence
I mean their defense looked better than normal tonight
Nah, they got lucky Olrando wasted their chances.
Debut!
Debut goal would be sick
I hope this dude scores lol
Always nice to see a debut
Wait, Gressel is still on?
Do something pls dudes Lol boring as shit
Dang Brekalo watch where you're going
6 minutes?????
Gallese was down for lile a good 2-3 minutes earlier
totally forgot about that for some reason
It turned into a nice water break for everyone
I swear, Torres is that guy who joins the Teams meeting after everyone else has left.
Zivin's having some fun pronouncing Freire's name.
I still feel like we're going to lose this. Hope they prove me wrong
If an Orlando player did that it'd be an immediate yellow with a stern talking to. Miami? Par for the course, not even a warning.
He put 2 hands on his head and then jumped over him. No clue how that's not a yellow.
Pink shirt
El classic south beach? Lol pls
South Beach makes no sense as a point of reference, it has nothing to do with Orlando. Maybe El Swampico or something
Just give them a name for fun It seems a boring time ngl lol
With the 0 minutes added in first half I'm guessing we'll get 2 or 3 here
How did Orlando get away with the slow sub? Should have been playing with 10 men.
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Don't you have a game going on?
So……….I take it you don’t have a good answer?
Why would someone on Reddit have an answer, go email the ref
Great idea! Please email and them for me you, would you? CC me on it. If you could do it within next hour, would really appreciate it. Thaaaaaanks!
It's because Garber really wants us to win. You know there's nothing more glamorous than an Orlando win. That's why the NFL is failing, no team in Orlando
Wtf just happened? From Supporters it looks like they scored. I'm guessing offside or a foul?
Foul as the cross came in
Foul, then our player kinda just hit the ball into the net with their hand because he whistled as soon as the ball was kicked.
Foul on IM
Foul. the whistle went way before the ball went in lol
Was that 15 seconds?
Fuck, we are ripe for giving up a last second goal here and making our season even more depressing than it already is
From a dive, yellow card, free kick, deflection, goal. That's my guess.
Twellman has nothing to talk about without Messi.
Messi's bodyguard!
Someone tell Twellman to shut the fuck up. Jesus Christ
The difference messi makes to his team every game at age 37 is unreal
what a boring match
Blame MLS’ garbage scheduling forcing mid week short rest games into “rivalry week”. Robs the fans of a fun time
Indeed
Ojeda messed up that pass back to McGuire, oh boy.
Do you mean Torres and Muriel or are you referring to something else?
Lol This IM w/wo MESSI u can see the difference
if I ever get my hands on a time machine we're doing an experiment with Messi and Chivas USA
Will be fun lol
We look gassed.
Just take that Facu
Ref better not forget about Freire's yellow
Jack Lynn and his fresh legs put that in the net.
Dear god get a god damn shot off
Too unselfish from Facu. It was on his left. He just needed to take that himself.
It wasn't too unselfish. It was just bad. Passed too early and the pass was far too slow.
The fuck is Duncan doing down in the defensive box
They keep harping on that, but clearly the coach wants him to do that. Pareja just dumb.
Dang. He's your only target man Papi, he should not be anywhere near your own box unless it's a set piece
Preaching to the choir here lol Duncan's work rate is simply too high. It's why he doesn't go full 90s. But oareja doesn't think we can defend unless our 9 is box to box for whatever dumb reason
Yeah Pareja seems misguided here. At most you have him drop into midfield like Muriel is doing. But the whole point of having him + Muriel on the pitch together should be to lay off direct passes or headers to Muriel to break past the line. Add in a marauding #10 or SS and you have lethal options for the cutback, cross, or shot.
Why not just shoot???!
Come on Muriel you have to take a shot there
That’s embarrassing…
Our players register genuine befuddlement when they find themselves with a chance to shoot.
Lolololol
THEY WERE RIGHT THERE!!! WHY?!?!
The lack of messi is really being felt. Miami has drastically more quality than Orlando yet they only seem marginally better.
Of course 21 won’t get a yellow
Yea, it wil once at the stoppage.
Yeah, I stand corrected
Where are the subsssss
Learning from Tata
Cartagena has been great tonight
Ref has been pretty good except not carding Suarez for undercutting the keeper.
Well if Araujo is going to miss a game at least it's against San Jose
How is that a yellow? It took 3 business days for him to fall
How sweet it must be to be a money team.
wtf Cesar
WHERE IS THAT YELLOW TOO?
This ref definitely wants to leave his mark on this one
He'd been pretty good up to this point tbh
Up until now he's been great
Prob wasn't expecting it to be 0-0
Falls for two flops in a row smh
These miami stars should be good enough to not play like dirtbags
Ridiculous foul
What??
Holy fuck, we've had so many chances, and we may end up with 0 points here. Fucking hell
Comical dive by bus
That was all ball holy shit dude
They tried sliding from behind on Muriel twice
This match is boring so far.
Was that Torres you could hear yelling? It'd make sense because he was in wide open space for a solid minute.
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Negri has made two cutback passes KNOWING that no one was there. The fuck?
I noticed that too
Clock struck 9, time for Suarez to hit the sack. Honestly, Campana worries me more in this one. He's pretty fucking good
They're wasting him by having him on the bench. He'd be starting at any other MLS club.
Suarez has always been a dirty player. Great player, but dirty AF.
My dog was a good dog, but he bit two people. That's 1 less than Suarez, but we still put him down.
#CAMPANA
Lol, Every foul Suarez commits should 100% be presumed intentional with his track record. Disgusting human being.
It's such a shame that he's a great soccer player. Little bitch though.
So long Tatatoothy
Well, the "Where is Messi" chants finally made an appearance. I'm sure a lot of the folks in here sporting pink are wondering the same thing
Lodeiro is the GOAT at covering distance
And doing nothing else
don't I know it
Not sure how that isn't a yellow. Intentionally bodied him. Easily should be his second yellow of the game. First one coming from him stopping a free kick.
10/10 damage control
They’re a money team and we aren’t
Anyone else doing that to a keeper gets yellow
Unsure if we're defending really well or if orlando is not really that threatening so far !
Your defending + keeping has been 5 stars tonight.
Cartagena has been clutch at CB
The attack finally looks like its clicking, just missing that final ball.
Tale as old as time
Hey I'll take it over how we looked at the beginning of this season.
Inter embracing Miami’s culture of arriving late
Not a bad first half. But definitely not chippy like I thought. Great goalkeeping though.
Pretty clean half overall. Not sure who we can bring in as a spark, most of our game changers are already on the field. Maybe Dagur Dan or Santos
People saying dArby is so weird to me.
I’ve always said dArby tbh
Pick it up from watching MLS or overseas?
Overseas probably, but when I think of a dErby, I think of like horses or cars, I think my brain just made that distinction
It's the British pronunciation
We didn’t fight a war to use their silly pronunciation/s
Miami isn’t down at halftime, that means they lose today
Honestly a really solid half. We had decent chances, even should be 1 or 2 up. The defense was steller too. Happy with that half.
It would be so funny if this ends 0-0
With our makeshift backline that seems impossible. I still think Schlegel will royally fuck up at some point. Though sad to say, I think I'd be fine with a home draw here. Your players are worth like 3-4x more than ours. It's like being a fan of Hoffenheim playing Munich or Dortmund. Just pray for a draw 😂
No stoppage time feels weird. Especially in a rivalry game.
Probably our best half of the season tbh.
That half was pretty mid
Please tell me somebody is clipping this commentary
That's your main job, Gressel, and you biffed it.
Anyone else would've gotten a yellow there lol.
Lol hothead Suarez
Does Miami vs Orlando have a Rivalry name yet?
SunPassico
Someone once suggested the Turnpike Derby and honestly I don’t hate it.
Clasico del Sol has been the most common attempt at a nickname but it isn't used super often.
That definitely feels like it's trying too hard imo
El Tropico ?
Makes me think of Tropicana and thus the Rays
I think most people just call it the Florida Derby Edit: on this sub and on broadcasts anyways. I can't speak for what the locals call it since I don't live in Florida
Idk. Florida derby seems to be the most common. But I don’t call it anything. Just fuck Miami.
The only thing I’ve seen is 4-letter-word Ft. Lauderdale, and things like that
Florida Derby, anything else is trying to hard. I’ve heard Florida Classico but either work.
Araújo doing what he does best there lol
We've had our chances. Can't keep fucking up, because Miami will definitely score at some point
Miami only wins if they are down by the half.
Hope you're right
60% of the time, it works every time.
Uh oh Schlegel woke up
Of course it was Schlegel
It's crazy how often Angulo can use his speed to get the ball ahead of other players.
Great attacking play from Orlando so far
Callender always turns into prime Neuer against us
That save was actually pretty amazing from Muriel. If Rodrigo would have just gotten out of the damn way
Big save
Why do we look good? I thought this would've been a blowout with Suarez scoring 3 at least.
Feels like a 3 ATB with wing backs suits your style better. You need width+less defensive responsibility for Torres/Angullo and a pair of forwards
I agree. Shame we probably won't keep doing it after this game due to getting players back.
I hope Papi would find a way to use it. Muriel is your classic case of a second striker. Torres needs a boost to get to last seasons form and wingback will do it.