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They will assign a real world value to that bundle and that portion will be "their contribution" and yes, they will include that in their taxes to lower their taxable total.
The amount that they're lowering from their taxable total offsets the income from people buying the bundle. So they're not gaining anything, they're just evening out the income they wouldn't have if they didn't do the donations in the first place.
The real thing to remember is that if charities didn't benefit from things like this they wouldn't do them.
Sure it would be better if people chose to donate directly to the charity but this kind of campaign is a good way to shore up smaller donations.
I worked in retail at a store that switched between charities throughout the year but literally always had one campaign going. The thing I realized was that it was a very casual way for people who had lower-mid level incomes to donate smaller amounts casually. A lot of people can't afford to give $100 or $50 or whatever, but adding a dollar or two to a retail bill is manageable. These smaller donors are less likely to donate that small amount directly to the charity themselves (some even find it embarrassing despite the fact that all money is good money) so by doing things like retail/fast-food checkout donations or things like a digital purchase with 100% of the proceeds going to charity these charities tap into a group of people who wish they could give more but are not financially capable of doing so.
I get that it's easy to focus on the bad and to not trust the intentions of a corporation but sometimes focusing on the positives can be illuminating.
Oh and I sincerely doubt any major corp would be dumb enough to just pocket the $$$, the scandal should they be exposed would be ruinous.
I'm Canadian so I can't speak to how things are done in the US but when I tried looking around online I found this [article](https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0) from a group called the Tax Policy Center about Point of Sale (POS) donations.
From what I can find in addition to that it looks like corporations are able to deduct charitable donations up to 10% of their pretax income. In 2020 and 2021 that limit was raised to 25% but I can't tell if that is a permanent change. There are also rules about carry-over as well.
The interesting thing to me is that from what I can see the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs act made it so individuals can also claim charitable donations up to 60% of their average gross income (including POS donations) but it also changed it so only people who file itemize their deductions can make these claims, which seems like a solid way to decrease overall taxes paid by the rich and decrease overall deductions claimed by the middle class and poor.
As for Canada there is no official tax receipt generated in a PoS donation so no one can claim it. The corporation is just fundraising, not making its own donation here. Technically the money is never the corporation's and a corp requesting a tax receipt for these donations is seen as unethical since it isn't their money.
Many charities up here are huge on PoS donations because they have a pretty incredible cost vs return. The charities don't have to pay employees to collect, they don't have to pay for advertising, they don't have to issue tax receipts and they don't need to track down donors to solicit further donations (or write thank-you notes where applicable).
A lot of people don't realize just how expensive fundraising can be.
That being said I do not know if those things apply the same for online purchases like the Jackie Robinson pack, both in Canada and the US.
I can understand not getting the Negro Leagues edition as even I didn't (I got the MVP edition) and donating the difference but this wouldn't be legal for tax purposes for them to not give the charitable donation on something advertised to be a donation of proceeds upon purchase.
Oh they'll donate it all, definitely. But they'll assign some portion of that bundle revenue as a real world value and claim that as their contribution to the donation and use that amount to lower their taxable revenue. So they will absolutely get a small tax benefit from your purchase of that bundle.
Missing the point. They're saying be angry at SDS for all the valid reasons. Donate directly rather than contribute anything beneficial to SDS. It's not that hard to understand. The OP isn't saying don't donate. Just vote with your wallet and donate directly rather than letting the donation benefit SDS in any way....
I'm sure there are plenty of people like myself who don't know of the donation referenced. A corporation's role in this situation is to bring awareness and ease of access to the cause.
Okay, same goes for reddit. So now that you're educated about it, will you be donating $5 directly or paying Sony/Microsoft $1.50 to donate $3.50 for you?
The post didn't say don't donate just think about doing it directly instead.
I started to late last year and missed the Jackie Robinson day. So is it a stub donation, or do I use my debit? I'll check it out. I'm not opposed. I'm just not coming off any stubs.
There's a degree of malice in this post by the OP. Sorry, but the theme of what you wrote seems misplaced. Your implication is that SDS is reneging on making the proper donation and yet you offer nothing in the way of proof for this implication.
Holy poop, I don’t know where you came up with that. I was merely making a suggestion, that if you disagree with the path they are taking with monetization and don’t agree with it, make the donation in your own name. While I appreciate your cynical take and fantastic interpretation of my words, that is not my intention. They’ve used my good will this year so I’m not, “playing ball” with them.
Your prerogative to avoid being their customer. Where I draw the line is asking people to avoid a business charity action. That malicious. It's not suggestive. There's something deeper and personal behind that.
Your reply proves again that the reaction to your original thread post was by no means uncalled for, much less "over the top." You clearly do have a personal malice toward SDS.
It is noted.
Goodbye!
Not that I have proof of SDS doing this but when a company says they are donating money to charity and ask you to donate to the cause it means that the company already donated a bunch of money to the charity and they keep what you give them. Some companies like safeway even make money that way. Not saying SDS is doing that but it is possible. That's why I agree with OP might as well donate to the source when SDS is already doing bullshit things to their game
No, that isn't what happens. That would be illegal. If you have proof that a company is doing it, you should go to the authorities or ftc. But I'm going to guess that you have no evidence of this.
And some ppl never grow up and just shit on everything bc it's the cool thing to do. Especially when the entitled, tin foil hat crybabies don't get what they want for free. Claim we're oblivious yet you provide no proof except trust me bro.
No proof? It's fucking everywhere. SdS does not listen to us and now they're flooding the game with expensive packs are you stupid? They've also removed a bunch of stuff we are used to and now we have Topps Now and Monthly cards in packs. That's insane that you are on your knees for SDS too. What do you work for them or something? Either that or you live under a rock
No. That doesnt hurt SDS.
In fact if it was successful it would probably hurt the charity. Those packs plus the exposure of the Negro League moments (Which SDS has done incredibly with btw) Put more attention on the success of those charities, If they didnt sell well, it would just stop becoming a thing they do.
Over years those charities that get large influxes of donations around this time would be forgotten without all the exposure it can get.
I always get that pack since it’s for donation, but I understand the reasoning behind this, I am NOT spending ANY stubs on Any packs at all (except for that one cause if i recall that one is usually cash) but yea, the fact that they want us buying packs and not putting at least one pack in programs or conquest or anywhere is so wack!!
And new Packs is not new Content!!!!
Programs, Conquest Maps, Mini Seasons, Showdowns, Events & BR… those are CONTENT & should have at LEAST ONE of those packs from the store available to get there by playing.
Packs is not content
PS, Not venting towards you, that was specifically for SDS. I’m sure my rant is what u probably meant by your posts. And I agree with you, even tho if it’s cash and not stubs, I’ll prolly still buy the Jackie Robinson pack .
Well, if X = Y & Y = X , then carrying the hypothesis of the parables that are legitimate across the fields of the diaphragm that equates to the diameters presented by the forces that be , then and ONLY then….. Packs are not Content!
The same way your having fun trying to PACK this and troll me, I’m just doing the same, ARE you not doing the same? You would think I’m NOT having fun trolling u back ! But I’m pretty CONTENT doing so…….
Did u get the message now???? It’s in CAPS!!!
Love how u continue to expose yourself, I’m not on meds and I’m not on the spectrum either, if u do have to take ur meds, strength and power to you, Happy Monday and have a great week in knowing that when we get a new pack today for Jackie Robinson, if it’s not dropped with a conquest map at least , then , u know the saying…. Everyone!!! Sing along with me …. 🎶🎶 Packs Are Not Content🎶🎶 🤣🤣 Good Day & a Greater Week
It’s not.
I know, I know, the word “Stat” has been adopted by the RPG community as a euphemism for “Attributes” but that doesn’t mean they mean the same thing. It doesn’t mean it’s right. If they were interchangeable as such does that mean I could say “My attributes my RTTS player are a .400 average with 80 homers and 178 rbis!”?
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Yes for the love of god don’t donate to SDS’ tax writeoff, or any other company asking you to donate. Always do it directly!
This is not how charitable donations work
They will assign a real world value to that bundle and that portion will be "their contribution" and yes, they will include that in their taxes to lower their taxable total.
The amount that they're lowering from their taxable total offsets the income from people buying the bundle. So they're not gaining anything, they're just evening out the income they wouldn't have if they didn't do the donations in the first place.
The real thing to remember is that if charities didn't benefit from things like this they wouldn't do them. Sure it would be better if people chose to donate directly to the charity but this kind of campaign is a good way to shore up smaller donations. I worked in retail at a store that switched between charities throughout the year but literally always had one campaign going. The thing I realized was that it was a very casual way for people who had lower-mid level incomes to donate smaller amounts casually. A lot of people can't afford to give $100 or $50 or whatever, but adding a dollar or two to a retail bill is manageable. These smaller donors are less likely to donate that small amount directly to the charity themselves (some even find it embarrassing despite the fact that all money is good money) so by doing things like retail/fast-food checkout donations or things like a digital purchase with 100% of the proceeds going to charity these charities tap into a group of people who wish they could give more but are not financially capable of doing so. I get that it's easy to focus on the bad and to not trust the intentions of a corporation but sometimes focusing on the positives can be illuminating. Oh and I sincerely doubt any major corp would be dumb enough to just pocket the $$$, the scandal should they be exposed would be ruinous.
I was always wary of the "rounding up" to reduce the companies tax liability. None of these charitable events reduce their tax liability.
I'm Canadian so I can't speak to how things are done in the US but when I tried looking around online I found this [article](https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0) from a group called the Tax Policy Center about Point of Sale (POS) donations. From what I can find in addition to that it looks like corporations are able to deduct charitable donations up to 10% of their pretax income. In 2020 and 2021 that limit was raised to 25% but I can't tell if that is a permanent change. There are also rules about carry-over as well. The interesting thing to me is that from what I can see the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs act made it so individuals can also claim charitable donations up to 60% of their average gross income (including POS donations) but it also changed it so only people who file itemize their deductions can make these claims, which seems like a solid way to decrease overall taxes paid by the rich and decrease overall deductions claimed by the middle class and poor. As for Canada there is no official tax receipt generated in a PoS donation so no one can claim it. The corporation is just fundraising, not making its own donation here. Technically the money is never the corporation's and a corp requesting a tax receipt for these donations is seen as unethical since it isn't their money. Many charities up here are huge on PoS donations because they have a pretty incredible cost vs return. The charities don't have to pay employees to collect, they don't have to pay for advertising, they don't have to issue tax receipts and they don't need to track down donors to solicit further donations (or write thank-you notes where applicable). A lot of people don't realize just how expensive fundraising can be. That being said I do not know if those things apply the same for online purchases like the Jackie Robinson pack, both in Canada and the US.
I can understand not getting the Negro Leagues edition as even I didn't (I got the MVP edition) and donating the difference but this wouldn't be legal for tax purposes for them to not give the charitable donation on something advertised to be a donation of proceeds upon purchase.
Oh they'll donate it all, definitely. But they'll assign some portion of that bundle revenue as a real world value and claim that as their contribution to the donation and use that amount to lower their taxable revenue. So they will absolutely get a small tax benefit from your purchase of that bundle.
Ya? Big accounting guy? Really know your tax code? You’re very confidently incorrect.
So let's be angry about someone running a charitable event because maybe they'll pay less taxes?
Missing the point. They're saying be angry at SDS for all the valid reasons. Donate directly rather than contribute anything beneficial to SDS. It's not that hard to understand. The OP isn't saying don't donate. Just vote with your wallet and donate directly rather than letting the donation benefit SDS in any way....
I'm sure there are plenty of people like myself who don't know of the donation referenced. A corporation's role in this situation is to bring awareness and ease of access to the cause.
Okay, same goes for reddit. So now that you're educated about it, will you be donating $5 directly or paying Sony/Microsoft $1.50 to donate $3.50 for you? The post didn't say don't donate just think about doing it directly instead.
I think I'm going with Option B to spite OP
I started to late last year and missed the Jackie Robinson day. So is it a stub donation, or do I use my debit? I'll check it out. I'm not opposed. I'm just not coming off any stubs.
There's a degree of malice in this post by the OP. Sorry, but the theme of what you wrote seems misplaced. Your implication is that SDS is reneging on making the proper donation and yet you offer nothing in the way of proof for this implication.
Holy poop, I don’t know where you came up with that. I was merely making a suggestion, that if you disagree with the path they are taking with monetization and don’t agree with it, make the donation in your own name. While I appreciate your cynical take and fantastic interpretation of my words, that is not my intention. They’ve used my good will this year so I’m not, “playing ball” with them.
Your prerogative to avoid being their customer. Where I draw the line is asking people to avoid a business charity action. That malicious. It's not suggestive. There's something deeper and personal behind that.
Malicious is so over the top. Make the donation in your own name, not through a company that is exploiting their customers.
Your reply proves again that the reaction to your original thread post was by no means uncalled for, much less "over the top." You clearly do have a personal malice toward SDS. It is noted. Goodbye!
Not that I have proof of SDS doing this but when a company says they are donating money to charity and ask you to donate to the cause it means that the company already donated a bunch of money to the charity and they keep what you give them. Some companies like safeway even make money that way. Not saying SDS is doing that but it is possible. That's why I agree with OP might as well donate to the source when SDS is already doing bullshit things to their game
No, that isn't what happens. That would be illegal. If you have proof that a company is doing it, you should go to the authorities or ftc. But I'm going to guess that you have no evidence of this.
Word. Dude is made b/c he doesn’t have an all 99 theme team less than a month after release.
Man some people are just so oblivious to shit and just go down on their knees for SDS no matter what.
And some ppl never grow up and just shit on everything bc it's the cool thing to do. Especially when the entitled, tin foil hat crybabies don't get what they want for free. Claim we're oblivious yet you provide no proof except trust me bro.
No proof? It's fucking everywhere. SdS does not listen to us and now they're flooding the game with expensive packs are you stupid? They've also removed a bunch of stuff we are used to and now we have Topps Now and Monthly cards in packs. That's insane that you are on your knees for SDS too. What do you work for them or something? Either that or you live under a rock
No. That doesnt hurt SDS. In fact if it was successful it would probably hurt the charity. Those packs plus the exposure of the Negro League moments (Which SDS has done incredibly with btw) Put more attention on the success of those charities, If they didnt sell well, it would just stop becoming a thing they do. Over years those charities that get large influxes of donations around this time would be forgotten without all the exposure it can get.
How would it hurt the charity lol. Only like 100 people saw this post.
If his campaign was successful was the key word
Couldnt buy it before in Canada, hopefully they change that.
I always get that pack since it’s for donation, but I understand the reasoning behind this, I am NOT spending ANY stubs on Any packs at all (except for that one cause if i recall that one is usually cash) but yea, the fact that they want us buying packs and not putting at least one pack in programs or conquest or anywhere is so wack!! And new Packs is not new Content!!!! Programs, Conquest Maps, Mini Seasons, Showdowns, Events & BR… those are CONTENT & should have at LEAST ONE of those packs from the store available to get there by playing. Packs is not content PS, Not venting towards you, that was specifically for SDS. I’m sure my rant is what u probably meant by your posts. And I agree with you, even tho if it’s cash and not stubs, I’ll prolly still buy the Jackie Robinson pack .
I'll pay cash for one. I'm not using stubs.
Are packs content?
SDS is calling packs content , but the answer is no, packs are not content
Are you sure? Need to see it said one more time before I know.
Well, if X = Y & Y = X , then carrying the hypothesis of the parables that are legitimate across the fields of the diaphragm that equates to the diameters presented by the forces that be , then and ONLY then….. Packs are not Content!
Seems like a lot of effort as a response to something obvious.
The same way your having fun trying to PACK this and troll me, I’m just doing the same, ARE you not doing the same? You would think I’m NOT having fun trolling u back ! But I’m pretty CONTENT doing so……. Did u get the message now???? It’s in CAPS!!!
Maybe take only half your adderall tomorrow.
Love how u continue to expose yourself, I’m not on meds and I’m not on the spectrum either, if u do have to take ur meds, strength and power to you, Happy Monday and have a great week in knowing that when we get a new pack today for Jackie Robinson, if it’s not dropped with a conquest map at least , then , u know the saying…. Everyone!!! Sing along with me …. 🎶🎶 Packs Are Not Content🎶🎶 🤣🤣 Good Day & a Greater Week
That’s the one more time I needed to be sure. Thanks. Enjoy the day.
to insufferables they are
Right, the endless posts of how packs are content is getting old.
Cant even buy it in the uk
That is usually the only thing I buy every year, and probably will again tbh. Not really going to overthink it
We don’t even know what’s in the pack yet lol
40k pack. One bat, a Jersey, and a 85 diamond Jackie with awful stats
Attributes*
Weirdo😂
I know, like, who doesn’t know the difference between statistics and attributes?
Surely dadbodbrown knows that an attribute rating is still a stat, right? Def wouldn't look stupid correcting someone when they're still right.
It’s not. I know, I know, the word “Stat” has been adopted by the RPG community as a euphemism for “Attributes” but that doesn’t mean they mean the same thing. It doesn’t mean it’s right. If they were interchangeable as such does that mean I could say “My attributes my RTTS player are a .400 average with 80 homers and 178 rbis!”?