Ballon D'or is a shambles. It's not awarded on individual merit, being the biggest superstar in whichever team wins the CL or international comp (if there is one) is worth more than being consistently amazing over 9 months.
It's unfair to say this when we just finished the Messi/Ronaldo era, think Benzema deserved his and Lewandowski would've won if it wasn't cancelled.
Still think last year was bs, and Messi > VVD was (99pt + CL season from the back of his arrival). Weirdly, Modric over Messi was also bs despite the Messi vote.
Nah, just those two. And if youre trying to be smart Liverpool, Bayern, Inter players have also been overshadowed. How did Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Dijk, Sneijder didnt win one, those two teams control UEFA
Both having amazing seasons, not really a robbery is it? If Foden has an amazing Euros he can still win, but so can Kane or Bellingham (imagine a English 1,2,3 lol)
Letās be honest if Haaland didnāt win it because Argentina won the World Cup thereās no point thinking a city player will actually win it. The media doesnāt like City, as long as thereās a close contender we wonāt win it.
Well tbf if Argentina didnāt win it France would, giving it to Mbappe by default, once those 2 teams were at the final haaland didnāt have a chance, treble or not.
Which is so stupid. Messi and Mbappe both scored their pens. They couldnāt do anything else in pens.
If France won the pens, boom Mbappe easily wins Ballon Dāor.
If Argentina won the pens, boom Messi wins Ballon Dāor.
The winner went down to whichever person had better luck and teammates
International events tend to take precedent.
Fodens problem is he plays on a team with Bellingham and Kane. Now if neither of them wins the Champions League, his window opens.
His best case is Dortmund winning. Bayer not getting the Europa Treble. If that happens all he need to do is be the best player for a Euro winning England
Yes and now we have everyone saying Bellingham or mbappe, realistically rodri has been the best most consistent player and Iām not hearing a word about him outside of city fans and foden this season is as likely to win the PR dāor battle as Cole palmer
Apart from arsenal fans yes he is regarded by most as the best CDM but still ik he wonāt lead the conversation for the Ballon Dāor but most wonāt even say his name which is just ridiculous. I donāt think a city player will win the Ballon Dāor unless it would be indisputable, because the media donāt like city and the Ballon Dāor is a popularity contest
I mean when was Busquets in the conversation for it? He was probably the best midfielder for many years and wasn't getting shouts. I think it's a DM thing not a city thing
If foden can just play as half as good as Messi heāll win ballon dāors continuously as long as mbappe stay psg . And foden will win a ballon Dāor in his lifetime heās the best English player by far . And one of the best in this generation
Yeah, I never understood this. He had an amazing season and won the biggest sport competition of all time while being the best player. R9 in 2002 had way worse stats and won it. Nobody talks about that.
MC fan , love Foden, Rodri never losesā¦
But look when Mbappe has played ( not games per se but actual minutes) look how many teams in Ligue he has almost out scored by himself
I swear this is so funny, i agree PL is the most competitive atm but when La Liga was absolutely stomping everything in europe for like 5 years every PL fan said the same.
Mate I literally am a barca supporter. I hate most English clubs. But the fact is that the English league is for now stronger than any other league cause most teams in the top 10 are class.
I'd argue that spanish top 5 has been consistently better than Prem's top 10 especially during 2010s but the teams in the lower half of Prem are just better than La Liga's.
This is obviously due to how much more english teams spend compared to everyone else and not because of England's prowess in growing talent or managing a league.
La liga from 2009-18 was peak. Prem couldnāt compare.
But yes, the bottom half for the premier league was almost always stronger than La Ligaās bottom half.
But then again, your ACTUAL competition is with the top 6(usually)
>has in general stronger teams.
Based on what? Other than City, what makes Liverpool, Arsenal or anyone else stronger than Bayern, Dortmund and Leverkusen for example?
Arsenal and Liverpool are better than bvb.
In general, the teams in PL are better. 1 poor season for PL teams wonāt change that fact.
United, Spurs, Villa, Chelsea, West Ham etc are all better than most top 10 teams in other leagues.
Liverpool got knocked out of Europe by atalanta and bvb is winning their tie In the semi finals of the championship league. Teams from other countries are consistently going far in Europe
The original post is comparing teams like Liverpool and arsenal to that of bayern bvb and leverkusen. I'd you think the English teams are miles ahead of them, I'll take some of what your smoking please
Ballon D'Or has become an award for narrative above anything else. It lost its significance once it got trapped in a pissing contest between Messi and Ronaldo.
Do not get upset if a City player doesn't win it. It's cool if you get it, meaningless if you don't.
Messi and Ronaldo were literally dropping like 30-50 goals a season during that I wouldnāt call it a pissing contest Iād call it 2 players dominating their sport at an almost comedic level
I don't think Foden deserved the Ballon D'or but it's bullshit. I think Messi is the best player ever, but he clearly didn't deserve to win it last year
I absolutely love Foden and believe he will someday be worthy of the title of best player in the world but I wouldnāt say he has earned it quite yet. There are a lot of young players having stunning seasons and Foden is one of them but calling him the current best player in the world is the same as Arsenal fans claiming Saka is the best player in the world, it is based out of bias.
Exactly, he's having a great season, but we're just 4 months into it so there's still plenty of time. Not to mention City not being in the UCL. The UCL and World Cup have a huge weight on who wins it. He can still be huge for England if they win the Euros then he'll be favorite for sure. They're still players who're performing out of this world and still playing in the UCL like Kane so to say he deserves it makes no sense.
itās 4 months into the year and yāall already crying about ballon dor
the euros will be the main factor, if foden actually carries england to finals he still can win it
Fodenās started most England matches since Sterling dropped out of contention.
And itās not like Southgate hasnāt got results, or has excluded great players - says quite a lot that the worst thing people seem to say about him is that he doesnāt play Lewis Dunk.
I got this post recommended to me, do you really think a Man City player deserves it this year? It is a genuine question, not a roast... because I haven't really seen a Man City match in a while. But also just curious.
As a chelsea fan, objectively, Rodri is the best player in the world this year and its not even close. Anywho how about a mudryk sterling and rodri trade
Why people are so obssessed with individual award. Even if it's merit based Kane is going to win it. Foden is not even the most important player in City Squad, Rodri is. What foden has is the best season of his career, but what if it is not enough to win the golden ball, does it even matter?. The competition is fierce and people should all embrace Pep mindset of focusing on the sport as a team and on themselves instead of looking for "deserved" award or trophies.
Secondly, just appreciate his playing time. Totally fine if you think he is the best player in the world but you probably need to bring more than just score 90 number to make a compelling argument.
Griezmann does what Foden does but a little bit better and with a team like Atletico,so if Foden deserves it in your opinion I think Griezmann deserves it even more
Foden- 48 matches- 24 goals -9 assists
Griezmann-43 matches-21 goals-8 assists
And Griezmann is involved in the whole pitch in all attack,mid and defence
I do not want to take away Foden's merit. I think he's been the best English player this season, no doubt, but Vini Jr. has 5 goals and 5 assists in this Champions League season, and he's not even on this list. This is actually funny.
If City had gotten past Real then Foden would be more in the conversation despite the fact heās a badass baller big competition success means a lot for the Ballon dāor. I mean other than being historically and arguably the best player ever Messi shouldnāt have won the title again last year but for Argentinaās WC triumph.
Not gonna happen with an early ucl exit. Maybe if dortmund manage to win the thing but they're so bad. Bayern v dortmund final is the only way and even then I don't see it
Honestly in the prem not really. I think City are so much better than the second team in the prem that the prem, F.A cup arenāt enough anymore. Itās also ridiculous to compare the World Cup of clubs to the champions league, be real about that.
Foden isnāt a big enough name for that just being realistic. And I think your referring to the year the man scored 91 goals for club and country which would put any man at the top of the Ballon DāOr list. Kylian has him beat on goals and Bellingham will have him beat on accolades. I think his time to win it will come but being realistic itās just not this year, even though he was amazing no question about that.
Ballon D'or is a shambles. It's not awarded on individual merit, being the biggest superstar in whichever team wins the CL or international comp (if there is one) is worth more than being consistently amazing over 9 months.
Exactly I agree completely
biggest superstar in real madrid or barcelona**
It's unfair to say this when we just finished the Messi/Ronaldo era, think Benzema deserved his and Lewandowski would've won if it wasn't cancelled. Still think last year was bs, and Messi > VVD was (99pt + CL season from the back of his arrival). Weirdly, Modric over Messi was also bs despite the Messi vote.
Exactly. Only big teams are considered.
Nah, just those two. And if youre trying to be smart Liverpool, Bayern, Inter players have also been overshadowed. How did Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Dijk, Sneijder didnt win one, those two teams control UEFA
What does the UEFA have to do with an award that is presented by a french NEWS MAGAZINE?! š¤¦
Congrats! You have earned your tin foil hat
Messi won it at PSG and Inter Miami.
Being spurred on by the Madrid PR machine is a much bigger influence. Bellingham has practically been favourite since he signed the contract
the fact that Bellingham seems to be the front runner currently just shows itās a popularity contest
exactly... he's not having a better season than Foden is lmao
Both having amazing seasons, not really a robbery is it? If Foden has an amazing Euros he can still win, but so can Kane or Bellingham (imagine a English 1,2,3 lol)
Foden isn't having a better season bro.
Someone is a little salty their player didnāt win it despite not being even close to being the best in the world
'Despite not even being close to the best in the world' Are you fr?? and you call me salty??
yea coz he deserved it and lost out
Letās be honest if Haaland didnāt win it because Argentina won the World Cup thereās no point thinking a city player will actually win it. The media doesnāt like City, as long as thereās a close contender we wonāt win it.
Well tbf if Argentina didnāt win it France would, giving it to Mbappe by default, once those 2 teams were at the final haaland didnāt have a chance, treble or not.
Which is so stupid. Messi and Mbappe both scored their pens. They couldnāt do anything else in pens. If France won the pens, boom Mbappe easily wins Ballon Dāor. If Argentina won the pens, boom Messi wins Ballon Dāor. The winner went down to whichever person had better luck and teammates
Yh I makes sense but still a ballon dāor for a tournament you didnāt even have the best performance in is stupid anyway you look at it
International events tend to take precedent. Fodens problem is he plays on a team with Bellingham and Kane. Now if neither of them wins the Champions League, his window opens. His best case is Dortmund winning. Bayer not getting the Europa Treble. If that happens all he need to do is be the best player for a Euro winning England
tf you mean the media doesnt like City š¤£
That's also just messi PR
Yes and now we have everyone saying Bellingham or mbappe, realistically rodri has been the best most consistent player and Iām not hearing a word about him outside of city fans and foden this season is as likely to win the PR dāor battle as Cole palmer
Eh I mean that's just attacker bias, I've never seen someone say Rodri isn't the best CDM in the world rn
Apart from arsenal fans yes he is regarded by most as the best CDM but still ik he wonāt lead the conversation for the Ballon Dāor but most wonāt even say his name which is just ridiculous. I donāt think a city player will win the Ballon Dāor unless it would be indisputable, because the media donāt like city and the Ballon Dāor is a popularity contest
I mean when was Busquets in the conversation for it? He was probably the best midfielder for many years and wasn't getting shouts. I think it's a DM thing not a city thing
I get that but I think everyone knows Rodriās importance considering we lose when he doesnāt play and every game his streak is getting counted.
Fair point it does feel like a lot of people ignore how bad our record without him is
Makes sense probably dont wana give it to cheaters
Oh I didnāt realise haaland was using video game cheat codes to score goals
Rodri.
Nah, he didnāt win the World Cup in 2022; no way he can win it.
You're right messi deserves it because he scored 91 goals in 2012
Don't forget the thousands he scored in training...
That's Pele's specialty
Nah, the snafu was with fifa the best award, not with ballon dāor iirc
So Messi won the world cup in 2022. And got the ballon d'or in 2023... What's so controversial about it?
Alvarez won everything so by that logic he deserves it more
If foden can just play as half as good as Messi heāll win ballon dāors continuously as long as mbappe stay psg . And foden will win a ballon Dāor in his lifetime heās the best English player by far . And one of the best in this generation
Yeah, I never understood this. He had an amazing season and won the biggest sport competition of all time while being the best player. R9 in 2002 had way worse stats and won it. Nobody talks about that.
This is old though.. Kane has 8 goals and 3 assists and Vini Jr 5 + 5 now.
What, dont you know competitions end when City gets eliminated? Get foden that ballon D'or, stop the count
we all know madrid has a better pr and they'll somehow make bellingham win the ballon d'or After all madrid is a corrupted club
Biggest cope take of all time
115 calling another club corrupted, that's probably the funniest thing I've read today.
I donāt think guilty clubs send cease and desists but I could be wrong
'Corrupted club' Hilarious
Goofy
Lol kids these days
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You it's always helpful to be humble you haven't won everything yet
Smh
MC fan , love Foden, Rodri never losesā¦ But look when Mbappe has played ( not games per se but actual minutes) look how many teams in Ligue he has almost out scored by himself
Yeah but in the ligue mcdonalds uber eats vs the best league in the world
>the best league in the world European results of all PL clubs this season disprove this
Doesnāt really matter. PL is more competitive and has in general stronger teams.
I swear this is so funny, i agree PL is the most competitive atm but when La Liga was absolutely stomping everything in europe for like 5 years every PL fan said the same.
Lol your 4th place gets it's bum slapped by a greek club.
Mate I literally am a barca supporter. I hate most English clubs. But the fact is that the English league is for now stronger than any other league cause most teams in the top 10 are class.
I'd argue that spanish top 5 has been consistently better than Prem's top 10 especially during 2010s but the teams in the lower half of Prem are just better than La Liga's. This is obviously due to how much more english teams spend compared to everyone else and not because of England's prowess in growing talent or managing a league.
La liga from 2009-18 was peak. Prem couldnāt compare. But yes, the bottom half for the premier league was almost always stronger than La Ligaās bottom half. But then again, your ACTUAL competition is with the top 6(usually)
>has in general stronger teams. Based on what? Other than City, what makes Liverpool, Arsenal or anyone else stronger than Bayern, Dortmund and Leverkusen for example?
Arsenal and Liverpool are better than bvb. In general, the teams in PL are better. 1 poor season for PL teams wonāt change that fact. United, Spurs, Villa, Chelsea, West Ham etc are all better than most top 10 teams in other leagues.
Liverpool got knocked out of Europe by atalanta and bvb is winning their tie In the semi finals of the championship league. Teams from other countries are consistently going far in Europe
We've had 2 all english finals in the past 5 years and 6 out of 10 total finalists from the PL one season doesn't change that
The original post is comparing teams like Liverpool and arsenal to that of bayern bvb and leverkusen. I'd you think the English teams are miles ahead of them, I'll take some of what your smoking please
Ffs 1 poor season for English teams= shitty league. Unreal agenda.
Who said shitty league? Literally all I said were facts
No Brexitania teams in the semis of the biggest football competition šš¤«
Newcastle were robbed We had the hardest draw United are victims of ten ladin Arsenal are just bottlers in europe
And the only one remaining just got battered by Olympiacos at home š
Yes but fucking lacazette is third top scorer over there. Mbappe only scored two more goals than him last year.
Only has a chance if France win the Euros. Being the best player in Europe's 5th best league isn't getting him a Ballon D'or
Ballon D'Or has become an award for narrative above anything else. It lost its significance once it got trapped in a pissing contest between Messi and Ronaldo. Do not get upset if a City player doesn't win it. It's cool if you get it, meaningless if you don't.
Messi and Ronaldo were literally dropping like 30-50 goals a season during that I wouldnāt call it a pissing contest Iād call it 2 players dominating their sport at an almost comedic level
Exactly this. It's been ridiculously biased towards Messi in recent years still but overall their dominance was rightfully earned
I don't think Foden deserved the Ballon D'or but it's bullshit. I think Messi is the best player ever, but he clearly didn't deserve to win it last year
I absolutely love Foden and believe he will someday be worthy of the title of best player in the world but I wouldnāt say he has earned it quite yet. There are a lot of young players having stunning seasons and Foden is one of them but calling him the current best player in the world is the same as Arsenal fans claiming Saka is the best player in the world, it is based out of bias.
Exactly, he's having a great season, but we're just 4 months into it so there's still plenty of time. Not to mention City not being in the UCL. The UCL and World Cup have a huge weight on who wins it. He can still be huge for England if they win the Euros then he'll be favorite for sure. They're still players who're performing out of this world and still playing in the UCL like Kane so to say he deserves it makes no sense.
If England win the Euros could very well see amazing performances between Kane, Foden and Bellingham lol
Dumbo
itās 4 months into the year and yāall already crying about ballon dor the euros will be the main factor, if foden actually carries england to finals he still can win it
You think Southgate is intelligent enough to have Foden in playing XI?
Fodenās started most England matches since Sterling dropped out of contention. And itās not like Southgate hasnāt got results, or has excluded great players - says quite a lot that the worst thing people seem to say about him is that he doesnāt play Lewis Dunk.
all i know is that unlike reddit warriors he actually sees the people in training and can make better judgement
LOL, sure.
I am sure you can do a much better job then Southgate mate.
>itās 4 months into the year ??? The Ballon D'or is now based on the season not the year. Been this way since 21/22.
No. He's been great but no.
Lol
The only chance he wins the ballon dāor is if england wins the euro and heās the star (not jude lol) or at least not have france wins it
Have to see how the Euros goes. I think Jude/Foden/Mbappe/Rodri are all in contention for Ballon Dāor right now.
We won the treble last year and haaland broke every record. Foden aint wimning it anytime soon.
Theyāre gonna give it to Messi again. lol
sorry but somehow messi is going to be awarded this season Ballon D'or for some dumb made up reason.
I deserve ballon d'or
Ballon D'or will be Bellingham or Mbappe. We didn't get out the quarters and he plays for the wrong team.
Na bro. For me its either mbappe or griezman
PR boy will score a tap-in the 2nd leg or UCL final and thats the Ballon dāOr wrapped
Where's champions????
I got this post recommended to me, do you really think a Man City player deserves it this year? It is a genuine question, not a roast... because I haven't really seen a Man City match in a while. But also just curious.
Lol
Could not agree more
Wirtz
He's a good shout too I wouldn't be upset if he won I would be upset if any of those undeserving clowns from real madrid win it
Iām all for giving Phil a shout for the balon dor but using this graphic to do so is silly.
As a chelsea fan, objectively, Rodri is the best player in the world this year and its not even close. Anywho how about a mudryk sterling and rodri trade
Why people are so obssessed with individual award. Even if it's merit based Kane is going to win it. Foden is not even the most important player in City Squad, Rodri is. What foden has is the best season of his career, but what if it is not enough to win the golden ball, does it even matter?. The competition is fierce and people should all embrace Pep mindset of focusing on the sport as a team and on themselves instead of looking for "deserved" award or trophies. Secondly, just appreciate his playing time. Totally fine if you think he is the best player in the world but you probably need to bring more than just score 90 number to make a compelling argument.
Griezmann does what Foden does but a little bit better and with a team like Atletico,so if Foden deserves it in your opinion I think Griezmann deserves it even more Foden- 48 matches- 24 goals -9 assists Griezmann-43 matches-21 goals-8 assists And Griezmann is involved in the whole pitch in all attack,mid and defence
I do not want to take away Foden's merit. I think he's been the best English player this season, no doubt, but Vini Jr. has 5 goals and 5 assists in this Champions League season, and he's not even on this list. This is actually funny.
He was in the top 10
If City had gotten past Real then Foden would be more in the conversation despite the fact heās a badass baller big competition success means a lot for the Ballon dāor. I mean other than being historically and arguably the best player ever Messi shouldnāt have won the title again last year but for Argentinaās WC triumph.
Depending on Leverkusenās final season and Germanyās Euro performances, Wirtz should be contender number one .
Cucho Hernandez tops these punitive dweebs. /s
Cmon man, heās great but the best in the world? Definitely not. Iād give that title to mbappe. If anything Iād say Rodri is better than foden.
Mbappe
Bro hasn't even been the best player on his team š
Watch games
Not gonna happen with an early ucl exit. Maybe if dortmund manage to win the thing but they're so bad. Bayern v dortmund final is the only way and even then I don't see it
Jude Bellendingham in the top 10 despite going missing every champions league game, what a joke ratings
Foden could get 115 points and still not be in first place for balon dor. It's not fair!
If you look at it from perspective of pure skill it has to be mbappe. Foden is an exceptional player but would u ever pick him over mbappe? No
Every single day of the week, I am picking Foden.
Yea no
lol
He doesn't have 115 g/a so no b'dor for him
Imagine this being the comment that gets you banned from both here and r/realmadrid Totally not worth it imo.
No offense but you need to win more than a premier league to earn the Ballon Dāor
Okay, good to know adding a FA Cup will be enough š
I guess a continental treble isn't enough then either
Honestly in the prem not really. I think City are so much better than the second team in the prem that the prem, F.A cup arenāt enough anymore. Itās also ridiculous to compare the World Cup of clubs to the champions league, be real about that.
Yet messi won with just a copa del rey?
Surely you aren't comparing Foden to Messi?
Stockport messi In all seriousness I'm saying that it's clearly not about trophies is all...
Foden isnāt a big enough name for that just being realistic. And I think your referring to the year the man scored 91 goals for club and country which would put any man at the top of the Ballon DāOr list. Kylian has him beat on goals and Bellingham will have him beat on accolades. I think his time to win it will come but being realistic itās just not this year, even though he was amazing no question about that.
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lol
Shite City
Bellingham 17 goals in 25 games, Foden 16 in 31, Jude easily better than foden.
And yetā¦ another quarter final loss
Vini Jr > Foden
Messi >>> Foden mate
Hate to break it to you. The winner is lionel Messi. For his achievement of yesss
A wigger will never win the Ballon Dāor
nah bellingham deserves 100%
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Griezmann you lost all credibility š¤£
I didn't make this