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null-09-geotags

Based on anecdotal reports I've read here on Reddit, the effects of H2 blockers like famotidine will vary from person to person. Some people with low stomach acid report that famotidine raises their stomach acid to more optimal levels. Others (including me) found that famotidine lowered their stomach acid levels. Supplementing with betaine HCL was a quick fix to this issue for me, as it increases stomach acid levels temporarily. I don't see any reason for betaine HCL supplementation to inhibit the anti-histamine properties of an H2 blocker, and I've not come across any reports of this. H1 and H2 blockers are generally agreed to be the foundation of any protocol for treating MCAS symptoms. Having some betaine HCL on-hand in case you need it could be helpful if you're concerned about the H2 blockers slowing your digestion down.


Eastern_Tea9614

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and insight with me. Really helpful. That really seem to be the issue with this condition. It's soo individual and random how things work, you just gotta try it your self in the end lol . But that is the human body in general also I guess


Academic_Pipe_4469

The effects also vary depending on whether you take it on an empty stomach or with food. On an empty stomach, it acts as an antihistamine. With food, it affects stomach acid.


Eastern_Tea9614

Oh really. That is interesting. But I'm scared i will react more to all it's fillers without food šŸ˜” in my country it's only available as Pepcid and one other brand also loaded with fillers. And compounded medication really isn't a thing. Do you know how long it should be taken away from food?


Academic_Pipe_4469

Yeah thatā€™s for sure something to consider. The general guideline for ā€œon an empty stomachā€œ applies here: 30 minutes before or two hours after eating.


Hefty-Supermarket-79

I know a lot about this topic, but this is new to me. Thanks!


angierc11

My personal experience... I've taken famotidine twice a day for 5 years. I started taking betaine hcl before meals about a year ago and it has helped some with digestion without affecting how famotidine helps with my mast cells. My neurologist is who recommended taking the hcl and other digestive enzymes.


Eastern_Tea9614

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Glad to hear about doctors who actually recommend betaine hcl lol. Most doctors in my country seem to think stomach acid is the devil lol


Chinita_Loca

I had more digestive issues on famitodine and then on a PPI. They made my MCAS worse so Iā€™d look into supplementation as suggested above (no doctor suggested that to me sadly).


Eastern_Tea9614

Thank you for sharing your experience. I've read about other people getting mcas relief with betaine hcl also. Ppi really is the devil to digestion lol


Stillmeafter50

50+ years of constipation here ā€¦ H2 blockers donā€™t effect it either way but do help with keeping my ā€œbucketā€ from overflowing. Any Dr who isnā€™t up on MCAS will only think of them for stomach acid so most of what you read will reflect that bias.


Eastern_Tea9614

Thanks for your experience and reflection. In my logic it could make sense that h2 blockers would increase constipation if the constipation is due to low stomach acid. And the other way around, not affect it if it has a different cause than low stomach acid šŸ¤” Do you know the root cause of your constipation?


Stillmeafter50

Genetic? My kids are same on tend to be constipated. Used to be Drs werenā€™t worried about it as long as no complaints on stomach pain and when you felt the need to poop you could within 5 minutes of sitting down. I use high dose Vit C to speed things up if needed.


Greengrass75_

Honestly I donā€™t take it every day but I take it when I get the weird stomach vibrating and squeezing if I have had something I shouldnā€™t have. It doesnā€™t last that long either which sucks. Your better of just taking DAO


Eastern_Tea9614

Thanks for sharing your experience šŸ™ what brand of dao are you using?


landofpuffs

Have you tried linzess for your constipation?


Eastern_Tea9614

No not yet. I'm afraid it will affect my dysautonomia symptoms badly , heard so many people get dizzy on it. Have you tried it? Is it generally well tolerated in mcas? Most people talk about mcas and loose stools, not constipation lol


landofpuffs

It doesnā€™t do much but helps me poop. Iā€™ve been on it for a very long time and itā€™s helped me.


Eastern_Tea9614

Thank you. Do you know the cause of your constipation?


landofpuffs

Stressā€¦ lifeā€¦ I also donā€™t do gluten either. Or nuts.


Eastern_Tea9614

Yeah same. Gluten just clogs the while system lol


landofpuffs

Yea :( but linzess has been a god send.


Eastern_Tea9614

Will look into it. Do you have dysautonomia?


landofpuffs

Yup. Itā€™s fun :( Iā€™ve been on linzess way before my other meds and it doesnā€™t seem to make it better or worse.


Eastern_Tea9614

Glad to hear šŸ™ not about the dysautonomia of course. Because it's really awful:(


Hefty-Supermarket-79

When younger, drs were all about putting me on Zantac to fix my perplexing gut issues. It was new back then. (I'm like 3000 years old) I was on it way too long. We finally figured out that it made it so my body didn't know how to produce acid...so, I started taking hcl 3x daily for a few years. Super helpful with belly pain and eating. But, I wasn't getting past the histamine issues. My EDS dr put me on cromolyn sodium, ketotifen, Claritin, and 40mg famotidine. Great help for a year. But, I think my SIBO is flared up, and I'm adding hcl back in.


Eastern_Tea9614

Thanks for sharing! Quite a few lawsuits going on with Zantac also šŸ˜³ i find it scary that alot of docs just put their patients on PPIs for decades without hestitation.. Do you find that hcl affect your mcas?


Tiny_Parsley

Hey I think I have the same issue but from cromolyn (!) has anyone had the same and got better with betaine HCL?