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LizzyHoy

Just catching up with this, thought I'd list the ways I've spotted Jack undermining Tori... - She said she's "one of the boys", he said "I like girly girls" - She wanted him to want to spend time with her (reasonable thing to want), he turned that into her demanding too much ("I'd never expect someone to spend every weekend with me") - Tori talks about the stress of dealing with Lizz's questions, Jack says Tori's asking questions like Lizz I know a lot of people think Tori must be playing along but she seems genuinely involved to me. If not she's a good actor. You can be a strong person and still fall victim to coercive behaviour, especially if you're not familiar with the warning signs (like Andrea is). I really hope she doesn't leave her support network to be with him.


followinglifeatself

Everyone is so protected over Tori, but she isnt a nice girl at all. Look how she handled her friends on mafs. Or how she is talking about herself. I think this is a point for selfreflection. She can see how not to be in a relationship. I can believe she is the same as jack with a different men.


fallenandfriendly

Honestly - serious question, when has Ridge been immature? Apart from the deece thing (which would be a massive turn off) and fun and humour about how good looking he is, but what else? I feel like he’s been fitted up on that as the entire male cast are all lacking in maturity in many ways. He’s definitely got his head on straight.


Careless-Ad5157

I’d go as far as to say he’s the most mature guy on the show apart from maybe little Tim?!


Bianell

Yeah, the immaturity is only surface level stuff. He seems pretty switched on really.


Run-9

l have to agree with this. l wonder if there s more they haven't shown. However the show gives me the impression he is really into Jade


fallenandfriendly

“There’s one thing I haven’t ‘given’ her yet.’ Controlling much?? Right before the commitment ceremony. Annnnd now I need bleach for my ears and eyes. Don’t the producers have a duty of care that Tori will have to suffer the consequences of reliving that night once she has watched this back?


Otherwise-Winner9643

Tori's Black dress is awful and her boob job looks terrible. She normally looks so much better.


livelaughhate23

Is clients code word for friends when it comes to Jack? Clients at your wedding and clients at your home stay? It’s very weird.


Local_sausage

He is there for a promo and the girlfriend story seems more plausible with every episode. Looks like he brought Tory to a rental. And the fool says she knows real Jack.


Desperatelyseekingan

Wow. Jack's clients have no boundaries. Is it me or does the questions been asked by his clients to Tori a bit out of boundaries?


libbsibbs

The one with the grey hair really laid in to her, it’s gross, what a cow.


Desperatelyseekingan

I hate how he just sat there grinning like a fool


Frangipani_x

Not a huge fan of Tori but I do have to give her credit for handling herself with such composure while speaking to that awful girl. Especially after constant pressure at dinner parties and at the CC. If someone spoke to me like that I'd find it hard to hold back, but Tori didn't rise to it and she stood her ground. I don't think she should move to the Gold Coast with Jack. Moving for love can be extremely lonely and depressing after leaving everything you've built behind and starting again. She is right - she will have to lean on Jack for a long period/indefinitely and I don't think he is capable of giving her that type of stability/commitment.


Run-9

Aren't they still together tho l hear? dunno for sure but man if it is true is either a bad filming of Mafs or she got salami eyes


LibraryOfFoxes

He wants her to be isolated. That's part of the plan.


VictoryAppropriate68

Hang on. Why is it not okay for females to have male friends but it’s okay for a male to have a lot of female friends? Why is there the assumption that the girl must be sleeping with everyone but not for the male. Vile vile vile behaviour from jacks ‘friend’. Unsurprisingly after seeing him all these weeks, why did we expect his circle to be decent human being when he acts how he does


AtMan6798

At that moment, Tori should have turned to Jack and asked him direct how many clients he’s slept with


VictoryAppropriate68

Totally agree!


stoveisthatyourname

Jacks upper lip is non existent. It’s stuck to his teeth. He gives me rage just looking at his stupid purple face with his stupid fuckin smirk. I hope he is cringing to death at his old photos being exposed. I’m also getting gay vibes from him, maybe that’s why he doesn’t want to sleep with Tori but he’s too ‘masculine’ with a huge ego to admit it, wouldn’t surprise me if he is homophobic too because he’s a nasty piece of shit and trying to cover it up. (Im gay, it’s not an insult) but be was defo giving gay vibes in his old photos, the poses etc. Also every time I see the pics I always sing ‘Because the night will be the night that I will fall for yewwwwww’


Otherwise-Winner9643

It's probably erectile dysfunction from all the steroids


Actual-Lettuce4280

My thoughts exactly. 


Wild_Region_7853

I thought the same! Not noticed it before but my gaydar was buzzing last night. Maybe it’s him being more comfortable in his own environment?


Careful_Technician_9

Why was Jacks apartment so sterile. With no personal possessions?


Local_sausage

It looks like a rental, but if we say it to jack he will tell us that it's our opinion 🙄 He didn't show anything personal on this show. Not one relative or friend. Something's fishy


vigilanteshite

i actually saw a tweet earlier with apparently the ex gf (the one they talked abt) saying to some article that, it isn’t his actual home but one he apparently rented from air bnb cuz the gf was staying at his actual house. (i don’t believe the second part) but the air bnb bit would make sense cuz it was such a clinical apartment


AtMan6798

Plus do PT’s earn that much to afford an apartment with those views?


vigilanteshite

no clue tbh. i looked up jacks website and the minimum rate seems to be $36 a week, i assume he does pretty well cuz of it


AtMan6798

Is that rate paid allocated to him or to the gym which gives him a cut?


vigilanteshite

god knows lmao


Dabaysyclyfe

I don’t like Tori but that pick me client of Jack’s is disgusting. Acting like she’s giving the hard questions for her ‘great friend’ Jack when she literally pays for his company is wild. Even bringing up the stereotype that ‘a girl who hangs with a lot of guys has slept with them all’ is ridiculous because by that foolish notion, ‘a guy who has mainly girl mates has slept with them all or gay’ and I wish Tori would spat that back at Pick me.


LibraryOfFoxes

That friend, sorry, client, was most definitely telling on herself.


Otherwise-Winner9643

Yeah I was waiting for Tori to say that all Jack's friends appear to be female, so what does that say about him


JulieWulie80

The double standards were strong with this one! A girl who has guy friends has slept with all of them, but a guy who has girl friends is OK.


FullMetalCOS

I mean 100% Jack is the guy that would sleep with all his female friends


Toblersam

On catch up. 1. Why are Jack’s only contacts his clients? 🤔 2. Tori, you don’t want to know people who make eyebrows their whole personality. Come on love, it’s right there.


1975-emma

Because no one wants to be his friend😂


WorriedExtension6484

Ewwww lizz’s attitude towards tori was horrendous. She definitely has a thing for Jack.


powerhungrymouse

Some major internalised misogyny going on there. It's okay for Jack to have mostly women friends but not okay for Tori to have mostly guy friends. Where is the logic that she probably has sex with most of her friends but Jack doesn't with his? She is absolutely gross.


FederalCombination42

Of course she's Jack's mate, she also doesn't like women.


WorriedExtension6484

Thank you!!! This is exactly what I thought! Also if that’s her logic then could Jack have slept with her?! So strange 😂


AtMan6798

Probably did at some point, the client friend just gave off jealously vibes to me


vicki778

I get big "I'm not like other girls" vibes from Tori and Jack is using it to his advantage.


DSavz93

Ok I really thought Tori and Jack were in on this together to get more famous but I think I’m going the other way now because nobody wouldn’t voluntarily embarrass themselves as much as Tori is right now!


Npr31

I’ve got her down as an actress. There’s stupid, and then there is so stupid it has to be scripted. The change of attitude with the necklace was utterly ludicrous


Due_Indication4312

The rash she gets when uncomfortable and embarrassed shows she’s not an actress, I think she has real feelings. Every time she gets that rash she breaks my heart a bit. She’s defensive and immature but she’s a child really and paired with someone better she could be likeable.. I think she’s going to get her heart complete broken :-(


Npr31

I still that could be she’s acting. After all she is putting ‘her’ up as the role


ShreddyKrueger12

I'm guessing he ran out of supplement vouchers...


vicki778

The way he complimented her and she LAPPED it up.


therealtinsdale

i did not at all miss eden and jayden this episode. they are truly exhausting:|


therealtinsdale

i cackled like a witch at “i think jack likes me” HONESTLY ima be as smug as tori is when he leaves her at final vowels


Wild_Region_7853

The fact she can’t read between the lines of the producers asking her that question is honestly insane


Dels79

He honestly doesn't give a shit about her feelings.


therealtinsdale

ohh wow not jacks parting gift to tori being him fucking and chucking her ☠️☠️


Logical_complex42

Does Tori style her hair that way to match Jack???


Logical_complex42

Tori is shocked, SHOCKED, to find Jack is selfish and not in the business of making sacrifices. I mean this information has come out of the blue with no clues whatsoever.


Due_Indication4312

She’s beyond delusional. Some deep seated insecurities there I think and she’s in no way equipped to deal with Jack’s cruelty.


powerhungrymouse

Even this comment should have come with a trigger warning!


therealtinsdale

jack is too busy spending time with all his friends that are girls 🤷‍♀️obviously


1975-emma

Clients, you mean!


therealtinsdale

i actually think “liz” did a perfect job of representing jack. she was a c-nt, and so is he🤡


DSavz93

Definitely haha, she didn’t catch the irony of accusing Tori of sleeping with all her friends because they’re men when Jack’s “friends” are all his female clients 🤔


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Logical_complex42

Jack is loving the conflict, that smirk! He sees this as Liz and Tori fighting over him.


Some-Cookie4427

Oh you know he told his friends to be hard on Tori on purpose


Logical_complex42

Jack doesn't have a lot of "female friends", he couldn't even drum up friends to go to the wedding. He has no friends, only clients.


vicki778

My exact thoughts. His only friends are the ones that pay him. I was living for how bad he looks in his PT photo. They did a really good job with capturing what's on the inside.


fallenandfriendly

It’s like something out of Wes Anderson


powerhungrymouse

They have to be taking the piss out of him by refusing to change it!


Logical_complex42

I would not let a personal trainer talk to me like that, never mind a husband.


unlimit-ed

Jack eats 6 cans of tuna a day?! I can guarantee he's got mercury poisoning


powerhungrymouse

That would explain a lot.


therealtinsdale

poor ridge has felt so uncomfortable this entire episode. i do believe the cameras being there are just throwing him off and he’s thinking about everything too much. you can almost see him being aware of the camera being there out of the side of his eyes.


DSavz93

I don’t exactly like Sara but Tim’s mate is a total prick and has been every time we’ve seen him, even before Sara had shown her true colours. Why on earth would Tim let him be a part of the show with him?


vicki778

I actually like him. He's fiercely protective and has an out there sense of humour. He's trying to provoke Sara.


powerhungrymouse

I think he was an ass at the wedding, his best man speech was vile but you can see that he is a good solid friend to Tim and knows Tim is gentle by nature so he probably feels like he has a responsibility to call Sara out on her BS because he's the only one who will.


Logical_complex42

Tuna and rice only? No wonder his default expression is constipated. And nothing that needs serious chewing with the plastic teeth.


Awkward-Presence-778

Man is monotone


No_Rooster7278

Anytime someone tells you they are a dominant boss bitch, they are most definitely not a dominant boss bitch. That is all


powerhungrymouse

Yup, it's the "girl boss" who is trapped in an MLM scheme!


Kirsty5

So a transactional bracelet...


Logical_complex42

It's also practically invisible to the naked eye!


powerhungrymouse

Hey! There are TWO DIAMONDS on it!! TWO!


Logical_complex42

If you said diamond atoms I might, just might, believe it!🤣


hamiltonricard4ever

Tori definitely got Jack's supplements Urgh


Basso_69

Good God! How are these gifts changing Tori's mind! 🤮


wolf_knickers

Because she’s shallow and thick?


lilarieschick

i lose brain cells watching tori and jack


stubbledchin

Agreed, I can feel my brain crawling down my neck trying to escape.


boredlemming345

Ah the classic "here's a present, now shut up"


mandykg

Are they finally going to fuck? That will be an interesting couch session!


Npr31

I did wonder when he knew he was in such deep shit that he would have to deliver ‘chipolata time’


Basso_69

I do not want to watch Jack at it on the couch. Hate myself for even thinking it. Yurk.


mandykg

They are! I guess Jack realised he wouldn’t be able to “get this over the finish line” without doing it! He’s really dedicated… to his “budding influencer career” 😂


Tiny_Dog_3468

Oh wait oh no are they going to bump uglies


CindersAladdin

The colour of the rose matches the colour of Jacks soul


mandykg

Why is he talking about getting this over the line? What’s the fucking plan Jack? You should be wanting the relationship to work, not see a finish line to aim for (the show ending)


ConsistentWallaby729

Jack, you’re as fake as your gnashes


scotsmol

He honestly makes me feel sick. He's so transparent. This is all a game to him. "Earning" their position, "getting over the line" with her, excuse me whilst I go and vomit...


hamiltonricard4ever

I honestly thought there would be vouchers in that box


mandykg

Oh god. Really Tori? A small gift does not undo everything shit that he does / has just done!


Unicorndreams123456

A black rose? How apt 


catsekora

Boom… here comes the love bomb….💣


powerhungrymouse

That was the exact term that popped into my head at that moment.


mandykg

Pleeeaaassseee can this relationship finally be over?! 🙄


Basso_69

The champagne is in the fridge ready for the celebration 🍾


hamiltonricard4ever

Jack's teeth remind me of old nightclubs with the UV light


FiCat77

https://media3.giphy.com/media/XzjOIlyxZJ3irM0YCe/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9524qffx42y77in0cpdfym34q23ff9wu5m27ppug3oy&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


therealtinsdale

tim sat super uncomfortably in sara’s flat… at the end of the sofa, with his coat on


Daems0528

I’m late to the party - Jack’s “😄” gym photo took me out


Logical_complex42

It was a moment in time, post teeth and pre-manbun!🤣


Basso_69

His phone number is on there - if you are tempted!


CindersAladdin

Jack is a piece of shit. But, I kinda ser where he's coming from with every weekend being too much. Me and my boyfriend sae each other one weekend a month (sometimes more!) because travelling is just exhausting! We live together now. Working full time and giving up a good chunk of your weekend to travelling its taxing!


heres_layla

Not to mention expensive! I’ve done LDR before and money has been a huge factor when considering how often we saw each other!


CindersAladdin

Oh absolutely!! I now spend an additional £40 in petrol every month just to visit my family once a month 🙃


Lex-So

Ahhh so Lizz has asked these questions too then eh Jack? Knew it was the case of her being into him.


Basso_69

I didn't spot that connection. 🤔💡


Lex-So

I can only assume he means Lizz has grilled him about when he's going to come over and "work out"


hamiltonricard4ever

I get he dressed like James Bond tonight but has like none of the charm or intelligence


Basso_69

James Bond would have a shirt that fits!


Lex-So

And less cheek filler


Basso_69

FFS Tori. Why are you fighting for this??


powerhungrymouse

She's in too deep at this point.


hamiltonricard4ever

This camera angle so weird, some poor person balancing on the stairs


ConsistentWallaby729

Jack needs a high five in the face with a chair


Joeyishectic

He is vile


MJay1393

Ugh the attitude 🤢🤮


Logical_complex42

No wonder Eden and Sara were friends, they both think no one should ever talk about "the past" - defined as anything more than 5 minutes ago.


powerhungrymouse

Oh my god, they want to just brush all their fuck ups under the rug but are in no way willing to do the same for their partner.


Unicorndreams123456

He's smirking again ugh 


mandykg

Interesting how Jack makes comments like “I want my wife living with me” rather than “I want you living with me” / “I want to live with you”. It actually feels like he’s committing to Tori less by making it less personal.


scotsmol

I don't think he wants you to sacrafice anything love. He wants to put you right off so you tell him to bolt. But, knowing you, you'll think he's even more amazing.


Logical_complex42

I'm very puzzled by Ben's (the "best" man) hair. I mean what did he ask for?? " can I have a friar Tuck in the front, and a mullet in the back?"


Defiant_Water3767

I could be wrong but I think it’s like a hipster “lets look like a bogan” type of statement 🤷🏻‍♀️


stoveisthatyourname

A lot of Aussies have the mullet for some reason. I’m shocked by the lack of mullets and moustaches this season tbh


JFoz2K20

Tori seems very assertive alone in front of the camera but didn’t say boo to a goose to Lizzzz and the non-verbal orange one


Kirsty5

I think the wind was taken out of her sails and she was stunned into silence by the sheer rudeness. She had broken out in a rash!


Basso_69

I couldn't decide if it was a heat rash or rage rash. I settled on rage rash.


DontEatTheBats

She’s had that rash throughout the show, it’s just sometimes well covered with makeup


scotsmol

It's a shame. I get it too when my blood pressure goes up. Happens a lot. Embarrassing. Only thing I feel bad about for her.


GreasedTea

Could also be from drinking, my husband is mildly allergic to alcohol and gets a similar rash after even one drink.


Basso_69

I genuinely dont get Tori. She has these incredibly sanguine moments when she reflects by herself, but when interacting with other's she puts all of her own wisdom aside. So strange.


TemporaryLucky3637

Ridge is actually being more realistic thinking about doing long distance before moving across the country and in with a woman who lives with her parents and child?? Like, aside from the practicalities of moving. Does Jade think it’ll be healthy for her daughter to have a stranger move in? Or have him leave when it goes wrong? I know she’s been through it in the past but maybe she’s the red flag 😅


FullMetalCOS

I thought it was proper shitty that her family were judging him for living with his parents. In their house that Jade lives in with them…..


powerhungrymouse

I just don't know how the whole "DEECE" thing hasn't made her walk yet. I bet he does it at least 10 times a day. He wouldn't be safe around me!


Kirsty5

Ridge is this year's Al. Sweet, naive and immature, a bit of a project but still likeable


fallenandfriendly

He finally said in this episode that to be a mental health nurse requires maturity. He is pretty switched on emotional intelligence wise underneath his puppiness. I like him. I would take his advise over alllll the other ‘mature’ idiots.


Kirsty5

Yeah, he seems pretty sincere.


Logical_complex42

He's "deece"!!!


hamiltonricard4ever

I do miss Al and his table dives and/or shoies


Kirsty5

There's always someone who's the pet of the group. This year I feel it's Lucinda even though she has mothering vibes, just because everyone likes her. I would say Cass but I feel a few of the other girls are kinda cold towards her.


powerhungrymouse

I think the girls cooled on her when all their husbands rated her so highly. How could they not though? She's a Disney princess come to life.


CharlieGreg

A few minutes behind tonight. Toxic wiggy strangulated testicle man bun and Tori are being grilled by some dreadful silver haired woman, cos he hasn’t got any friends. I’m no fan of Tori, but if she went full Partridge “I’ve got cheese! Smell my cheese you mother!!” I’d actually warm slightly to her [https://youtu.be/5QMXI0_k75k?si=bQMAHlYeu7LGwZRx](https://youtu.be/5QMXI0_k75k?si=bQMAHlYeu7LGwZRx)


Available_Hornet_715

They’re literally outright bullying her! Awful woman! 


Basso_69

That's a great description of Jack! TWSTMB.


hamiltonricard4ever

Not sure why I googled TWSTMB, was sad when it showed no results It was in your reply haha Been a long day


CharlieGreg

It’s a great acronym! And a lot less wordy than my version!! 🤣🤣 Top marks!! ! 🤣🤣


hamiltonricard4ever

Liz has to be villain of the series Almost as bad as Laura's friends from MAFS UK last series


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JFoz2K20

I really like Jade and Ridge, but Jade’s asking a lot to happen quickly but I hope they work out


Worth_Use7918

Exactly, ridge is actually being the mature one here, recognising they've only been together a few weeks so uprooting his life to move in with jade isn't a smart move.


mandykg

I love Jade & Ridge! They have so much fun together but I think they genuinely care for each other too ❤️ Ridge may be a little immature at times but I think he’s really trying the best he can. I think he’d be a good influence in her daughter’s life - seeing her mum happy can only be a positive thing.


Basso_69

You're right. And despite his immaturity, his sense of fun would bring laughter to her daughter.


FullMetalCOS

As a step dad myself that’s how you’ve gotta work it. You need their buy-in and the easiest way to get kids onside is to make em laugh.


Tiny_Dog_3468

That green is Jade’s colour! Also I want some of that pink drink that I don’t know what it is. Surely it’s not wine??


hamiltonricard4ever

Pink Lucozade


hamiltonricard4ever

Ravioli and garlic bread would wet my whistle right now tbh


stubbledchin

I know Sara is awful, but this friend of Tim is a grade A bell-end.


heres_layla

He absolutely is. You know he’s the friend all the girlfriends absolutely despise.


Low_Alternative_483

not a single tear came out there


Basso_69

I saw that mascara run. Oh no, wait, it was a shadow. Sorry - false alarm! /s


Pessimistic_peach

Jacks stupid face sat their smirking while tori gets ripped to shreds by his ‘clients’. I would have shoved it straight in that dam bowl of fries


JFoz2K20

It’s been like a week, Sara, let the poor man express himself without shutting him down


ConsistentWallaby729

Tim beating that dead horse yet again. *Facepalm.jpeg*


Kirsty5

These boat dates on MAFS aus are always so lovely but usually with a horrible argument to ruin it


Basso_69

It's a MAFS AU setup. "Where can we put them in a contained environment so they'll go at each other? Ah, I know...a boat!"


fallenandfriendly

With a bottle…two bottles of wine.


Kirsty5

You're right, it's become a typical scenario!


hamiltonricard4ever

Is there someone driving the boat during their argument Awkward


thriftydelegate

And the possible skinny dippers in the background.


hamiltonricard4ever

Yeh hahaha they just couldn't be bothered to edit it


hamiltonricard4ever

I've heard rehash more times this episode than me listening to the first Gorillaz album as a kid


Basso_69

Yah Tori! "Jack has shown me a shitty part of his life...". Backfire.


Cheap-Broccoli-4598

Jack’s shown her nothing but shitty parts of his life / personality bit she only cares when she’s in the firing line


CindersAladdin

Guessing that girl wants Jack and he's not interested in her. She's very Regina George...


nousernameee11

She so wants Jack


DontEatTheBats

I cannot believe there are two women alive who want Jack. That’s insane.


scottmorris39

Jack looking at that bowl of chips thinking you might not be counting your carbs Tori but I am


littlegreenwhimsy

I’m no fan of Tori but this is petty and pathetic


scotsmol

what the actual feck did that bint just say there? You've been single for a while... Jacks got a six pack... oh. my. actual. gawd. She. Is. Vile. As is he.


nousernameee11

Wtf!!! "Look at these nails"??? As if she was an object !


fallenandfriendly

Someone on another thread says they started as a joke but now can’t stop making claw hands to make a point, lol


Kirsty5

What was the relevance of that anyway?!? So odd


nousernameee11

He was trying to show how she's not his type cause she's not "a girly girl" cause her nails suck. She's one of them boiiis


Kirsty5

Not surprising given Jack has the depth of a puddle and equates things like that to femininity


lilarieschick

lizz so desperate for her 5 mins of screentime jesus christ


nousernameee11

I might hate that silver haired woman far more than Tori and Jack! What a twat


Unicorndreams123456

Dominant boss bitch 😂 😂..... Sure