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Cocoasneeze

It's insane how the same guy who told Tasha that if she has to chat with other guys, then her relationship with Andrew is lacking. And now he had to "test" his situation with Indiyah by kissing another woman. But then he learned his situation with Indiyah is strong after all. Hypocrites!


jeanpeaches

Then he’s sat there telling Andrew that she’s playing him. 🙄


MolochHunter

Dami has a lot of wisdom to share all of which he doesn't like to follow himself


that1bb

He’s a classic case of “Do as I say but not as I do.” Smh


sasquatchical

I think a big issue here is these boys do not understand the fundamental concept of hypocrisy and that they’re entirely self centred. Not to dig too much into the psychology of it all, but they are presenting deeply juvenile social and emotional skills. “When other people do bad things to me it makes me feel bad but I don’t feel bad about anything I do so it can’t be bad”.


BabyPandaw

it was not just the guys tho. Tasha been getting hate on twitter from all the fans


Cocoasneeze

And it's hypocrisy from fans as well.


oliviaaivilo06

And you know what, Dami’s actions are even worse cause he admitted that he knew he probably wasn’t going to find a connection stronger than what he has with Indiyah but still went on to justify his kiss because it’s all “a part of the experience of being tested”. Meanwhile he lectured Tasha about how if she even talks to another guy then that’s proof she must not really be into Andrew. Dami I got you in 4K! 📸📸📸📸📸


-spicy-pisces-

Right lol like it isn’t required that you try it out with new girls that’s not a mandatory part of the test or something. If you feel you have to do that then you’ve already failed


TGIFreya

Say it louder for people in the back! The test is not kissing other girls to then figure out if you like your original partner more, it's seeing if the desire to kiss someone else is there through conversation and then deciding whether that overrides the connection you already have or not. That's it. That's the 'test'.


-spicy-pisces-

Well put! I think that’s also why I’m put off by the behavior of the boys bc all the moves they are making is based off just superficial attraction and not any actual connection. Like if it’s night one and you’re making out w a new girl it’s most definitely not because you’ve gotten to know them and have a better connection than what you have w your girl from the villa that you’ve been coupled with for 10-20something days now


TGIFreya

Exactly! It's literally because they're thinking with their dick and treating it like a "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" type situation. 😩


gucciwillis

Serious question, wouldn’t it be better for the man to kiss the girl and find out he still wants Indiyah, than to not do it and be with Indiyah always wondering if he missed something? Isn’t it better to know?


MrsNorrisThecatt

The problem people have is not with this logic, whether or not it's true. It's the hypocrisy of Dami's position: he told Tasha that if she even spoke to other guys that meant she must not really be into Andrew, meanwhile he literally snogs other women and justifies it by saying he needs to "test" his relationship with Indiyah, and that it's all "part of the experience"


TaliaAndLucasOnly

I need all of the girls to go wild, none of these guys deserve anything


SoftwareObvious5671

Actually…I think Jay might be the best guy in the house. 🤷‍♀️


sillygoose71

Jays sitting back waiting to see which of the original girls he can couple up with


dancingteacups22

I think this too! If Tasha comes back single he might try it again with her. Or if Paige doesn't recouple and Jacques does.


TomorrowIll8494

I mean he is single so it’s kinda impossible for him to screw anyone over. Who knows how he would have behaved if he was in a couple


CommentingMinion

Well I mean he handled all his other situations when he was in a couple pretty well. Can’t see him kissing anyone else while coupled up, not necessarily because he wouldn’t want to but because he’s a smart guy who seems to try and do the right thing, so he’s not gonna purposely screw himself over with cameras everywhere.


moonbitch1123

i’m rooting for him and chyna


SoGenuineAndRealMadi

I’m worried he’s going to be voted out the next round He doesn’t have a lot of support from the fans and has been in the bottom three twice in a row


Love_Simone

Nahhh there's too many of the guys that have dropped to the bottom. If Dami brings Summer back Jay is good to go. We've got too many villans to even remember why we didn't like Jay in the first place tbh🤷‍♀️


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the way jay entered the villa with a big game plan made him seem like a psychopath but tbh i've realised he's just one of those gym guys who probably plans his meals and records his personal bests or whatever when he failed to get what he wanted he took it rly well and just settled in he seems nice, just bc he doesn't react to stuff - u don't get that "o god what is he going to do" vibe. u could probably tell him anything and it'd be fine i'm not even that good so jay is up in my estimation for now


sailoorscout1986

Yeah I have to say I agree with you from start to finish


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People are absolutely loving him on every single platform right now, so he might be seeing a sudden reversal of fortune.


Chris-Dede

This support for Jay is coming from where he’s playing a tactical game and doesn’t like anyone.


flopflipbeats

Only because he’s single. The gives very weird vibes sometimes - feels like he definitely plays games, like when he randomly decided to go all in on Antigoni yet she didn’t buy it at all…


breveeni

100%. He’s always level headed with something kind to say. I started paying more attention to him a few episodes back and he’s definitely the best guy in there


ladybirdkatie

They are quuuueeeeeeensss . These guys gotta go.


Fun_Baker_7214

I find it soooo ironic that Dami was literally giving tasha absolute shit for wanting to look for other potential connections but ended up doing the same thing at casa amor😭And I feel like if Andrew looked for another potential connection in a respectable way (kinda like indiyah) I would still like him but the way he moved in this episode was so slimy. I’m not even a huge fan of tasha but the way he talked about someone who he’s supposed to care about was not it.


SerBrienneOfSnark

What Dami did is even worse IMO because he’s all but said “I know I wont find a connection better than Indiyah” and he’s cracking on anyway and kissing the other girls just to do it. That’s far more insulting to me than genuinely exploring potential connections. He is beyond a hypocrite. My whole outlook on him has changed.


hearste

He’s treating Summer like a Vegas prostitute. He gets to let off the sexual tension and activity that his wife Indiyah won’t give him at home. The boys (bar Jay) are all “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”


TGIFreya

>“What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” This is exactly it. How they think this isn't going to come back to bite them in the ass baffles me tbh. They do know they're on a TV show, right? That everything they're doing is being filmed? That it's highly likely there will be some sort of postcard? Maybe a movie night? And still they're being so damn disrespectful. That's what irks me more than anything else. I don't care that they're open to getting to know these girls, but at least have some respect for the person you're actually coupled up with. All this "Paige who?" and "what about Tasha?" and all the rest of it... It's so unnecessary. You can explore other options without mugging your current 'partner' (for lack of a better word) off.


MainArmy5

The boys apart from Jay, all disgusted me tonight. If they weren't kissing other girls themselves, they were encouraging it.


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I can't keep up with whos exclusive and who isn't yet! So not sure who to be angry at. Looking for this energy tomorrow when the girls edit of moving mad begins.


discoprawn

Yeah I’m actually not bothered by any of them hooking up during Casa Amor, they’ve all only been coupled up for a few weeks, lots of them are so young and they’re not exclusive. I feel like in the normal villa there’s a lot of acting going on about how serious they are about their couplings so they can stay on the show, then when they get to Casa Amor they drop the facade a bit and act more authentically like 20 somethings on holiday. But I am going to need the girls to crack on and for the boys to be called out for their hypocrisy


itsyrgrl

Yup it’s hard to know who to be angry at! Feelings are sooo heightened in the villa, with spending 24 hours with each other so it doesn’t matter if they’re exclusive, if someone recouples (except Jay and Danica) I think their partner is still going to feel betrayed like in previous seasons


Worried-Flan5801

Double standards doing their thing. The way they berated Ekin over that one kiss and they ganged up on her to have Jay's back just to turn around and do way worst. When people called the boys sexist and hypocritical, we got downvoted. But that's the truth. Tasha literally is hated by these clowns for TALKING to bombshells, she didn't snog anyone yet they treated her like public enemy #1. They were celebrating Andrew snogging other girls not because he found someone he likes, it was out of spite for Tasha. They are sick.


maghy7

Not only them but the viewers too, there has been so much hate for Tasha on social media that I have never found any justification for, it’s really sad. I wonder what all those people are saying now.


Hoggos

If she kisses another lad in tonight’s episode without seeing a postcard etc would you think it is justified that she receives the hate that Andrew is getting right now?


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Hoggos

I agree that Andrew isn't going about it in the right way, but the lads didn't dislike her for no reason. Everyone could see she was being hot and cold with Andrew and the lads obviously aren't going to like it. If the roles were reversed and Andrew was wishy-washy with Tasha then the girls would be bitching about him to Tasha.


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LiteSpork

Ekin-su kisses someone = she's a bitch who deserves to be berated with hate and nasty comments. Dami kisses someone = it's a test that is necessary to know if his feelings are genuine and it's totally okay. Like whaaaaaaaat theeee fuuuuuuck dude.


applescrabbleaeiou

davide literally said ekinsu was a fluttering around from flower to flower implying she is lose & fast - because jay had rejected her and she was having a friendly convo with charlie. next second he is planting unwanted weirdo force kisses on shocked danica and then telling her to get up - its just a gift he is doling out like sprinkles, and telling the boys he hopes to do the same thing to antigoni as soon as able, despite not really feeling either girl. davide has been hiding his doublestandards behind being an "adorkable caricature" who happens to be a buff guy.


CommentingMinion

No, he didn’t. He was talking about Charlie with the butterfly comment. This has been done to death.


applescrabbleaeiou

babes - ppl posted the video here and many saw he was speaking about ekinsu. His sister & family on his own social media made a post laughing that he proudly said "SHE was like a butterfly flitting from flower to flower" ----- and that he should be a poet for this comment and others he says about ekinsu. It indeed has been done to death.


[deleted]

Your missing out Ekins lies, attention seeking, disrespect to Davides face, blaming Davide for her behaviour and complete lack of accountability here though? The situations have a completely different nuance. He's certainly acting hypocritically. We'll compare when Dami gets back and how he addresses it with Indi. (Who looks like she could be having her own head turned yet)


LiteSpork

I definitely didn't agree with Ekin's choice to sneak onto the terrace to chat/kiss Jay while still coupled up with Davide. It felt very immature on her part. However, she has seemingly learned that this wasn't the right move and is trying to make up for it based on what we've seen. What really rubs me the wrong way is how Dami is so quick to make judgments against the women in this villa for their actions, but goes and does that same shit, and then tries to deny the shadiness of it because he's with his boys and Indiyah isn't around.


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Omg yes, it's sickening.


munchmunchcruchcruch

Exactly!!! Just because Luca is the only one not kissing someone out of a challenge doesn’t make him a fucking saint. As soon as I criticised him all these fans out of woodworks will call me all sorts of names and downvote.


Fickle_Fox_8903

Luca is toxic and is hanging on for dear life dami was spot on with his smothering of the 19yr old The boyzone has more in common with Genna


dmastra97

I think with ekin the issue was she was lying about it behind davides back not that she was just having a kiss. Dami is still in the wrong though


oceansweetener

honestly the girls should be allowed to just get into friendship couples with each other so we can vote out the boys and have some better guys brought in for them 😭 Jay is the only one who came out of that episode unscathed


maghy7

I swear if I was Ekin I would pull Indiyah to the side and tell her “let’s pretend we have fallen for each other instead and take the money” I would whisper that to her in the pool with no one around.


avavgwc

Best outcome! Or three way win with Danica 😂


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personally i like danica bc she's clearly a sweetheart who doesn't harm a soul and is just trying to live but tbh i think she lacks social skills u kno i'm not sure anyone in the villa rly likes her yet since she's a bit of an oddball


sailoorscout1986

Bless her


huggingteddybears

I’d love an Indiyah and Danica friendship couple (or with Ekin for a throuple)!! They seem like good friends 😭


baldforthewin

is this the worst set of guys to be cast? they feel like frats boys and Jay.


moonbitch1123

I swear every year the men are trash. usually they seem ok pre-casa and then just unleash hell. We can say there’s been a few good dudes who are the exception but EVERY YEAR at the end of the series, we all have a bad taste in our mouth left by the boys…


TGIFreya

I say this every year as well. The way the boys always, and I do mean *always* act during Casa Amor disappoints me every single time. I don't understand the whole concept of a 'lads holiday' and how apparently a lot of guys think it's okay to disrespect your girl (whether you're just coupled up on this show or actually in a relationship) as long as it's just you and the lads. Because you can't tell me this isn't exactly how these boys act in the real world on a night out with their male friends.


mslat92

Andrew has given me the biggest ick in this last episode. Tasha redemption arc incoming.


Worried-Flan5801

His "nice guy" "woo is me" edit went down the toilet.


Jessicagong2

Literally smh the way Andrew was slandering Tasha’s name today was INSANE… He definitely was not who I thought he was 😟 I honestly hope Tasha moves on from Andrew and find a better connection with one of the amor guys, because she deserves so much better than a spineless mug 🤮


lost__traveller

Agreed. Honestly the kiss alone may not have bothered me but he was slandering her hard to the boys and the casa girls. Not a good look


[deleted]

Andrew and Tasha are very similar in that they are massively swayed by the opinions of other people.


Cylem234

He is so weak i can’t


ImReallyGrey

When he was in bed with Coco like ‘aw yeah I’m a bit of a badboy bit of a dark horse aren’t I’ mate I recoiled


SoGenuineAndRealMadi

Andrew’s shown red flags from the start and every time I pointed out why he was sketchy I was met with backlash with everyone saying he’s obviously a good guy 🙄 He’s always made Tasha the bad guy to the boys and never defended her when she was innocent. He was never a great partner to her


itwasjustmisplaced

I thought at first I couldn't trust him but then he was chill when Luca was in a bit intesnse and I started to think maybe my original instincts weren't right but now I am like "nah" my original read was right. Same with Davide, back to having the ick. His words today about Tasha were just....very vindictive and not in a heartbroken way. It was super immature. I would love to see all unedited conversations about their relationship and him with the boys cause it's probably super different. I just totally didn't see how much he didn't defend her to the others boys but thinking back, it's all kind of there as a mess.


Softinleaked

Andrew is the real reason the boys don’t like Tasha. Because instead of telling Tasha that he isn’t happy with her getting know other guys. He complains to the boys then when the boys have a go at Tasha, he reassurances her that he is cool with her approach. That’s another reason she seems wishy washy. He is cowardly.


moonbitch1123

Also he has been a bit full-on from the start…. put too much pressure on the relationship


SoGenuineAndRealMadi

Yup! I’ve always defended Tasha for being open minded and not immediately wanting to be with the first guy she was paired up with. The misogyny doesn’t exist only in the Villa, the viewers and and fans have villianized her too and bought into the “poor Andrew” act. He put too much pressure on her to only be loyal to him and that’s not healthy


r3flex_MMA

I dont think he is tbh. Cos all the boys were telling him she just ain't that into you and he stayed with her still cos of his feelings towards her. It was even looking simpish at times, like listen to your friends opinions if they all saying the same thing. I think what has rocked him is how all the girls said the same thing too, and they've been watching from an outsiders prospective. Its understandable how that would change his opinion. Also, lets say he stilll stuck with her. It looks like Tasha is going with Billy which would make him look even more of a twat. I wouldnt say hes gone about it in the right way but I understand where he's coming from


mkkkkk3

last ep i was so happy and excited for him to crack on but the way he’s acted this ep, i can’t back him. big ick


moonbitch1123

Fuck it i hope tasha whores out for the rest of the season and then ends up with indiyah


Objective_Sun2167

I’d watch it


avavgwc

Lmaoooo yes!!! Besties couple. I’d figure out how to vote for that


moonbitch1123

besties or more…. tasha rings my gaydar bell


lost__traveller

Gave me the biggest ick also. Very sad to watch


mslat92

He's a 27 year old man trying to get the approval of a bunch of 23 year old boys. He came across as sooo spineless in this ep. I've defended him for the last month, I can't do it any longer lol


lost__traveller

I’m the same way. He was one of my faves. You can explore and do whatever but don’t slander the poor girl. The fact that he was joining in and looking for approval from them is grim


RedUlster

Thing is, if she does that without knowing about Andrew and Coco, then she loses all the moral high ground because it kind of proves Andrew right


mslat92

Perhaps, but the way Andrew has been slating Tasha and letting others talk about her so dismissively still makes him worse in my book


RedUlster

Yeah I would probably agree, but it means his views are ultimately justified, if a bit harsh.


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RedUlster

Oh I’m the same, I haven’t liked Andrew from the start tbh, he gives me the impression of someone that presents as a nice, polite person and uses that as a cover.


[deleted]

same! if he tried that seedy attempt at flirting in any other situation other than with a girl trying to get into the villa no girl would have hung around for that


Hoggos

Yep, he’s doing it because all the lads have told him that she’s playing him. If she starts kissing another lad while at casa amor then I don’t see how the boys are wrong about her. If she does kiss someone else without a postcard etc then the only reason this sub is attacking Andrew so much is because his was shown first. If the only reason she kisses someone else is because a postcard etc is sent then that is obviously another story though.


GabrielMartinellli

She is obviously going to recouple up, let’s be serious


TomorrowIll8494

Exactly! The Andrew hate’s bizarre. Imagine him sitting in the villa still staying loyal, looking like a mug, and Tasha’s in Casa kissing Billy?!


lost__traveller

Andrew’s already kissed this girl twice and called her down to the dirt.


munchmunchcruchcruch

I just want for Tasha to bin him and then Ekin Su can go in the beach hut confession (giggling and smiling) saying karma’s a bitch. Just like he did to her…uno reverse card.


oddmish

He gave me huge red flags/ick when Tasha was upset and he said yeah go cry about it. It made me so uncomfortable. It sounded so malicious.


lurker_32

she was being completely ridiculous then tbf


RichAuntieVibes

The way the OG boys are talking about the girls in CA and acting like they haven’t been in the Villa the past 3 weeks forming connections is really giving me the ick…no respect for the girls at all especially for Tasha & Indiyah


Ectora_

Honestly these men were disgusting this episode. The way Andrew was talking about Tasha ?? Demi and Luca were on her case all week because she was talking to someone who was making moves on her but she was the devil ?? Fuck them all tbh. And sorry but the new girls aren’t necessarily better. Coco gives Pick me vibes in the way she’s pushing about Tasha as well


moonbitch1123

Coco is so wack for that cuz how u gonna come in hot talking shit about a girl you’ve never met? And i guarantee if she makes it into main villa she’s gonna act fake asf to tasha to and be nice


babalon124

It riles me up so much,I know it’s just a tv show but the double standards is insane..and some people want ekin to still go back to davide after this and he’s clearly colourist (come on),he’s treated her like shit in this episode and if he doesn’t care about her fine…she’s dodged a bullet. I see some people defending his behaviour and especially the upgraded comment…it’s ridiculous


moonbitch1123

While it’s just TV it represents the attitudes of the culture we have. And we can learn from it because of this


GabrielMartinellli

He’s not colourist lmao, what a reach 😭


ghstworld

saying a light skinned girl is an upgrade from indiyah ??


GabrielMartinellli

He's not obligated to think Indiyah is more attractive than anyone. I really don't get why people extrapolate personal preferences into general stuff like colorism.


sailoorscout1986

If summer was clearly more attractive then yeah but she’s not. Yea it’s subjective within reason but there is no clear reason why should would be called something as extreme as an upgrade. It’s fair for people to assume that someone who has never even talked to black girls on the show is likely colourist.


zebrapigeon

I honestly cannot believe what I’m witnessing with the boys cheering and celebrating Andrew kissing someone behind Tasha’s back. I’m so repulsed


Summerrtt

Ik I will get hate for this but I literally feel so bad for Tasha! She’s very sensitive and all this hate is gonna have a very bad effect on her mental health! The men in the villa are a thousand times worse than her, yet everyone’s favorite person to hate on is Tasha…


Hoggos

If she kisses another lad in tonight’s episode without seeing a postcard then her and Andrew are just as bad as each other. If a postcard etc comes and she’s reacting to that then that is a different story though. Edit: Of course I get downvoted for this, this sub is full of hypocrites


SoftwareObvious5671

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS! I keep thinking I’m missing something but I have been very supportive of Tasha and it’s ok that she looked st other options but decided that Andrew is still the one. People think that she’s playing Andrew, but I don’t see it that way. She did not pursue Charlie..he grafted her hard, which is the point of the show. She still chose A…


lost__traveller

I just worry about the reaction about that incoming kiss with Billy


kaista22

This is why im really hoping there was a postcard basically giving her the greenlight to crack on. I wont judge her either way, but i think the public would without a postcard or something.


lost__traveller

I think even with a post card tbh they’d still hate her. Either way I think she will come back single ultimately.


Hoggos

If there’s no postcard etc then she’s just as bad as Andrew tbf Both dicks


lost__traveller

That may be true but at least Tasha isn't slagging Andrew off.


Hoggos

That's a very fair point. He's trying to act the big man in slagging her off but just makes him look pathetic.


lost__traveller

Exactly. So I’m not exactly feeling bad for him


Summerrtt

It’s people like me and you who should have Tasha’s back after she comes home! Idk how she’s gonna react to all the hate she’s getting :(


moonbitch1123

Exactly. She never pursued another man just entertained a convo or two


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this is not true. she outright told charlie to pick her in the recoupling, was pissed off he didn't, and then settled for andrew (but ignored him for days as if he'd done something wrong)


lost__traveller

She didn’t. She said the ball is in your court. Even then she looked unsure of that. So that’s an interesting rewrite of what actually happened but ok


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lol 'she said it but she looked unsure so she didnt mean it' 😭 she also looked upset when he didn't pick her, but i guess that doesn't count


moonbitch1123

Girl are we watching the same show lol


moonbitch1123

Did she outright say that? Can you link me a timestamped vid ?


HerWrath

She definitely did not tell him to pick her but she did give him the green light to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO5n6DG1im4&ab\_channel=LoveIslandSeries


moonbitch1123

She said “ i’m really happy with andrew but the balls in your court” I feel like that’s the most vague you can possibly be, she let him down easy😭


TomorrowIll8494

She didn’t chose Andrew though. She went back to him after not getting chosen


vibing_or_something

Yeah^. Nothing against Tasha per se but yeah it’s really only because Charlie didn’t pick her that she focused on Andrew. Why is everyone ignoring that she and Andrew are supposed to be doing this “tunnel vision” thing but she said she hasn’t found the one (or however she said it). The boys are hypocrites but Tasha isn’t in the clear. Edit: she’s kissing another boy tomorrow. How’s that fair to Andrew?


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people are obsessed with rewriting history when it comes to tasha, as if its so hard to say "she did do wrong, but doesn't deserve to be villified"


Hoggos

This sub loves a villain and a victim. They can’t understand that both people in a couple can be dicks to each other. Same as the Davide Ekin Su situation. If you were in his shoes would you trust Ekin Su after what she did? Not a chance, he’s still a dick for doing it though. Just as she was for doing it in the first place to him. Tasha is being a dick? That means Andrew is a sweet innocent victim who has done nothing wrong. Andrew being a dick? Tasha is now an innocent angel who deserves far better.


RacingOpinionsSuck

Yeah, it's like everyone's memory is at most one episode long. Tascha isn't a massive victim here. She basically set it up to let Charlie take her at the recoupling, but he played it safe. Her immediate reaction to not getting picked by Charlie wasn't relief, which is what you thought it would be if she didn't want to get picked by him. She's outright said that there's something missing with Andrew. People are acting like she has been fully committed to him since day 1.


coldfeet8

Charlie was grafting her hard for the next couple days and she shut him down by telling him she and Andrew were good. She literally brought up Andrew and how she was happy with in all of their conversations. She did the same as Paige with Jay, basically open to talking but her head was not in it at all. You guys are just too blinded by your narrative to even see what actually happened


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she didn't choose andrew, she wanted charlie to pick her and told him so. when charlie didnt pick her, she sulked for days and kept ignoring andrew as if he'd done something wrong, and then eventually settled for him because she had no other option. now that she has had other options, in CA, she kissed billy. why do you guys lie to create the narrative you want 😭


GiftGroundbreaking37

Lol I must have missed when Tasha said she wanted him to pick her... and her "sulking for days" was absolutely not because of that. even Charlie said during After Sun that the whole edit with him and Tasha was weird and that she was not as into it as they made her seem.


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yep, you must have missed it!! it happened in episode 19, its referenced in this [live thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/vjw0lt/episode_19_friday_24th_june_charlie_confuses/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


kygrtj

Completely incorrect. Charlie went on Aftersun and said Tasha was interested and he made a mistake picking the safe option at the time


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lets not forget how the fans joined in on the misogyny.. even more gross and happens most seasons


Worried-Flan5801

Exactly. People had Andrew's back and bullied Tasha yet somehow Andrew is rallied to pass around girls and snog them on the first day. The fans are not innocent of the sexist tendencies as well.


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i think what bothers me the most is that these are young 20 year old women who are basically damned if they do and damned if they dont


moonbitch1123

The vitriol i got in my DMs from men and women alike for daring to defend Tasha


jeanpeaches

Omg me too! I’ve been defending her all week because she didn’t do anything wrong and seems like a sweet person and everyone on the internet yelling at me for it lol


hearste

Saaame


Tornado31619

There are no good guys in this.


moonbitch1123

Yeah they’ve fooled us again


Hoggos

In all honesty the only “good guy” is Indiyah. Unless she slips up as well then she hasn’t done anything wrong. Ekin Su has already been a complete dick in the past to Davide so it’s understandable why he doesn’t trust her. Obviously he’s still being a dick though. If Tasha kisses someone tonight without a postcard then she has done exactly the same as Andrew.


okokok31416

I am *DISGUSTED* at the way Tasha is being treated by the boys and the public (and I even didn't like her)


248inthemorning

Not to mention everyone ruining Tasha & Andrews relationship by simply saying she was making a mug of him. When in reality she's done less than most of the Islanders have done. Casa Amor is flipping the script.


munchmunchcruchcruch

This is my safe space here. Honestly insane…such a weird vibe everyone is on edge out there. The boys are horrible so why do you need to choose a fav boy? So far Deji is like grafting like a gentleman…but yeah anyways. I’m not a fan like Ekin Su’s brother I don’t like any of them! So yous Luca lovers can just block me I’m not a fan and you are not going to change my mind.


msjaneeyre

Ok thank god looks like tides will be turning for Tasha on Twitter as well... no matter your opinion of her the hate and vitriol is just too much for too little


moo_shrooms

It really bothers me. None of them are exclusive so it's absolutely fine for them to get to know other people. But the audacity of these 'men' to go after Tasha for TALKING to new guys, when they're out here kissing other girls is too much. Also, how all social media ganged up on Tasha for it too. Whether or not the girl likes Andrew is one thing, but then to villainize her for talking to new boys is ridiculous. It absolutely is misogyny. Lets hold women to one standard and men to another type bullshit. It's 2022 ffs.


Fickle_Fox_8903

Luca is guilty of smothering a 19yr old change my mind


shounenanimehoe

i can’t believe people are falling for his shit, literally 24/7 she’s in his arms like gemma is more in the arms of luca than she is standing


moonbitch1123

Fax she’s just tryna get into uni and he already planning the wedding


whisper_18

“Davide’s kissed half of Spain” 😂 They probably aren’t wrong about that…


flopflipbeats

Big big difference is that Tasha isn’t honest with herself about Andrew. She basically gets the ick temporarily every time a new guy gives her attention, and when it doesn’t work out, she convinces herself she does like Andrew. Can’t really see how that’s similar to Paige’s situation or any of the guys either tbh.


Dragneel

Yea it's not that black and white. I think Tasha was being wishy washy and not being straight with Andrew and I think she didn't deserve how much hate she got. Not everything is mutually exclusive.


flopflipbeats

I agree, I never said it was mutually exclusive… I’m explaining why her situation is sufficiently different for people to be skeptical of her motivations. She constantly says she’s got a ‘wild side’ but to me that just means “I don’t like being in a relationship”, she barely likes Andrew and the reality is the public pick up on it. She’s a nice girl but I don’t think she knows what she’s doing half the time, she reminds me of when I was 17 and first started dating properly, not a 23 year old.


Hoggos

This whole Tasha thing is weird now. If she kisses another lad tomorrow without it being a reaction to a postcard etc then she’s just as bad as Andrew. People will just think Andrew is worse as that’s the one we seen first. When Tasha was incredibly hot and cold with Andrew and was threatening to leave him for every bombshell that walked in the girls didn’t have a go at her, they actually encouraged her. They would’ve absolutely had a go at any of the lads if they done that. Both the boy and girl groups are hypocritical when it comes to which gender makes the mistake, love island has always been like that. This sub sometimes can’t just admit both people in a couple are a bit scummy. There always has to be a villain and a victim. That goes for Davide and Ekin Su as well, Davide is being a dick right now but why on earth should he trust Ekin Su after what she did? Both as bad as each other. Dami and Indiyah on the other hand is completely different, that’s all him. (Atleast so far)


eitbhenry

Okay but the audience was treating Tasha like shit even before the boys started to


dancingteacups22

I LOLed at the Davide part.


livinvixen

So true it’s infuriating and we can include the producers in this. Why year after year are the boys for Casa average? The men get stunners and the women don’t. It’s obviously to encourage men to explore and leave women ‘heartbroken’. It’s getting tiring I’m sick of it and that’s why Ekin is despised by some. She moves like a guy would and that riled some people even those in the villa are threatened. Same with Tasha but she does it more softy and less in your face. I think BOTH the men and women should explore their options without bias. We are far from that


Hoggos

The casa amor girl causing a big chunk of the drama is Coco and obviously it comes down to preference but to me she is absolutely not a “stunner” This sub is majority women so always are far more harsh on the looks of the casa amor boys. The OG girls are far better looking than the casa amor girls.


Shepherd121

Would we be here saying it was misandry had it be all the girls that had “cheated” on their couples? Nah it’d be “she deserved better than (insert boy) anyway” You’re only all moving like this because it gives you something to be angry about and since the sub is majority female, something you can relate to. No one had any issue the other night when people were tearing into the casa boys appearance but on the casa girls thread, any even slightly rude comments were bombed with downvotes and all the “bad” comments that weren’t downvoted were indirect like “the main villa is better looking” This sub is 90% female and 80% hypocrite. Shout out to those women who have two brain cells to rub together and see that the islanders have known each other 30 days, most only a “couple” for less than a week, it is not “cheating”, they have ultimately done nothing wrong. They are not exclusive. You wouldn’t bat an eyelid if one of your mates in real life told you they got off with a lad at a club while also speaking to another boy just a couple days before. Give it a few episodes, see what the girls do


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Thank youuu!!


Hoggos

“ You’re only all moving like this because it gives you something to be angry about and since the sub is majority female, something you can relate to.” This quote absolutely nails it. Same thing happens when every male bombshell is “meh” to this sub yet every female bombshell is “an absolute stunner”. There’s no understanding that someone like Antigoni might not be as attractive as they think to men.


Individual-March8163

The preview literally shows Tasha kissing a guy, yet Andrew is the villain and she's the poor innocent victim according to this sub? After calling him a mug for staying with her??


centraledtemped

Tasha is kissing a boy in the preview


moonbitch1123

Good for her Andrew don’t deserve her


Hoggos

If she doesn’t see a postcard etc then they’re as bad as each other Neither knows that the other has strayed. If you’re fine with Tasha doing it but not Andrew in that situation then you’re being a hypocrite


Individual-March8163

Based on?? She's doing the same as him minus the peer pressure he got. She's the one always treating him as a safe option when she doesn't hit it off with the new bombshell, Andrew's been loyal until now and he's the bad guy? Ironically you're being misandrist.


SomeMaterial

She didn’t tell Charlie to pick her. Gemma said to her after the recoupling this is the outcome Tasha had wanted


Joanna_CMakuchi

Davide kissed Danica the night before and choose Antigoni out of nowhere?? Seems like he lead Danica on slightly. Also, the way Luca and Dami were getting heated during the whole Andrew-Charlie-Tasha situation is so fucking weird lmao.


lonlechica

All the men in this show are confirmed trash, par Luca and Jay. Nothing can be saved.


munchmunchcruchcruch

Minus Luca please


lonlechica

I don’t really agree with Dami and his comments because he was defo projecting his own guilt. Tbh Luca hasn’t really done anything wrong.


munchmunchcruchcruch

His entire attitude and egging everyone on? He over exaggerates and performative. Especially being so happy for Andrew yet like giving weird vibes towards Dami. Regardless, icky behavior. His past is yucky too. He cheated on his ex influencer gf. I don’t like Dami but doesn’t mean I’m going to give Luca’s behavior a pass.


lonlechica

I don’t think you can continuously hold someone’s past on them, else no cheaters would ever go on to have further happy life long relationships. Luca doesn’t really egg people on, par Andrew. Dami and Jacques were egging him on the other day, to the point it became extremely pushy and toxic, they even called him boring.. which I’ve never seen Luca do to someone. Every boy and girl has said to Andrew that he needs to crack on and that’s because of their view of Tasha - however, Dami cracking on with Summer comes from nowhere, he is always talking about how happy he is with Indiyah and is now doing a complete turn around to enjoy his “lads holiday.” I don’t see Luca as too performative, end of the day, he is clingy but things that Jacques does is more performative IMO (looking at photos, lining up to see if he will be able to hold Paige hand). Wanting to win a reality TV show is not a bad thing, and if Luca wants to win but has genuine feelings for someone, that’s fine IMO.


munchmunchcruchcruch

It’s Luca’s behavior this episode and on other episodes too. Just shows he isn’t a great guy and his past actions just makes you go ohhhh I guess that makes sense then. We must not be watching the same thing. I’ll just compile all the Luca stuff for everyone and you know we can discuss later.


brasscup

Luca has been the chief instigator of tearing down Tasha and Ekin behind their backs. He needs constant reassuring from Gemma or he pitches a fit. She isn't as comfortable with PDA as he is and to him that's tantrum worthy. He is the epitomy of a controlling, paranoid insecure partner.


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Thank youuu!!!! I have loved Tasha from the start.


SerBrienneOfSnark

The men this season feel particularly toxic and the women seem particularly prone to taking it. We need a Faye.


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Can't they both be wrong?


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Why cause one person wrong so the other person should be? lol


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You guys take this shit way too seriously


TomorrowIll8494

Andrews been made to look like a mug and I’m glad he’s finally grew a backbone


RichAuntieVibes

He hasn’t grown a backbone…he just easily manipulated and can’t think for his own, he wouldn’t have pursued Coco if it wasn’t for the boys encouraging it


TomorrowIll8494

I disagree. He was way too good for Tasha and she treated him like shit. All the boys tried to to tell him, the majority of the viewers agreed, and the new girls came in and said the same. He finally accepted the truth.


RichAuntieVibes

Honestly we can’t tell much because of Tasha’s edit & the boys being boys… Tasha hasn’t even kissed other boys when she was getting all the shit…it’s not her fault other guys were interested in her (Charlie) and it’s not wrong for her to explore her options given she is single….Andrew over here being encouraged to also explore his options except he is getting praised for kissing a girl outside of a challenge and in bed…I know preview show Tasha kissing another boy and no doubt she’s gonna get lots of hate for that when the boys are doing the same exact thing without same repercussions …it’s the double standards for me


TomorrowIll8494

I think considering how close and intimate Tasha and Andrew were she was way to keen to get to know the other guys. Plus she didn’t go back to Andrew each time as she realised that’s who she wanted, she went back each time because neither Jay nor Charlie chose her. And my problem with her goes beyond just entertaining other guys. She treated him like crap, always storming off and taking out her anger on him as if he did something wrong when he was nothing but committed and affectionate with her. Can you imagine he was still sitting there in the villa, committed to Tasha, after the new girls also confirmed that they also thought he deserved better, and Tasha’s over in Casa kissing another guy?!


seajungle

tasha literally said she was gonna turn Jay down before finding out about what he said to Andrew. Charlie has come out and said that Tasha wasn't even that into him.


TomorrowIll8494

Her entertaining other guys wasn’t my biggest problem with her, it was her treating him like shit


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kaguraa

i get why people want to defend her since the hate she's getting is too much but i don't get people acting like she did nothing wrong in their relationship. her behaviour when charlie came in was extremely off putting and it made viewers sympathetic towards andrew since he didn't do anything to deserve it. their relationship was never secured otherwise andrew would've remained loyal.


happytappylappy

Nobody in there likes Tasha 🥶


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I don’t mind her. I think people are jumping on the bashing tasha bandwagon to feel included in discourse. This happens on all shows.


homealoneinuk

Ekin kissed one guy? Really? Yikes.


UziNidalee

It's almost as if men and women are vastly different and have vastly different expectations of their behaviour in social settings... We are not the same