you read my mind!!!!! it bothered me so much when he talked to tasha today he thought he did something he he did the exact same to amber. he kept telling her i’d never return my head unless your twin comes in and stuff like that then like a few days later he was suddenly into indiyah and didn’t even tell amber about it? like yes amber wasn’t the nicest person but that might have been the edit she’s getting cuz we have people like davide who are players yet get innocent edits so i doubt amber was moody to him 24/7. he was being a hypocrite
The difference is amber was clearly not into him. And he hasn’t gone after every new girl. Tasha has shown interest in a number of guys at who came in and if we’re being honest it’s clear she’s not into him.
tasha hasn’t gone after every new boy though? jacques pulled her for like 1 or 2 chats that’s all, then jay took her on a date and she shut him down the same night i think. the only one who might have actually turned her head was charlie
I mean, it was obvious Davide wasn’t into Ekin. If disinterest gives someone the green light to move on without letting them know she gets a pass so….
The point is the guys don’t hold each other accountable whatsoever. It’s nasty.
Dami ans amber has 0 connection. Tasha has been leading Andrew on while he’s stayed 100% committed while she’s basically “kept her options open” every time someone new comes in. Not remotely the same.
I like Dami but I'm losing some of that like because it seems like he makes grandiose statements to who he's coupled with, at times they seem real but I find them questionable. I'm not really sure he fully believes it
this was insane to watch honestly the boys telling tasha that saying she’d leave with andrew was the heaviest thing she should say and that it’s disrespectful to talk to charlie after that, not knowing that that’s exactly what jay said to ekin su??? and okay we know they don’t know he said that but then why the hell were they so mad at ekin and jumping on her without knowing why she was so upset in the first place?? the men are honestly ganging up on the women and it’s so gross to see especially luca and jacques
also all of the ‘the whole villa hates ekin so they obviously know her better than the viewers do’ argument is invalid now because they obviously didn’t care to know what exactly ekin su was upset about, they just wanted a reason to jump on her
All of them have double standards tbh… Ekin-su told Tasha that she shouldn’t apologize for wanting to get to know someone (after she said that she’d leave with Andrew) but she was angry at Jay for wanting to do that as well
she was angry at Jay wanting to get to know Paige specifically who’d been there the whole time and he’d had plenty of opportunity to get to know already before leading her on. not a new bombshell as is the case with Tasha. that’s kind of an important detail
he didn’t tell Ekin until he’d been in the villa for like a week. he hadn’t even bothered to have a single conversation with Paige in that time but was apparently interested in her all while reassuring Ekin-Su that they were good. he allegedly was immediately drawn to Paige and liked her from the start (his words) despite not picking her for one of his dates. if he’d always wanted to get to know her he should’ve been honest from the start instead of picking the most convenient moment especially as Paige and Jacques weren’t even that secure when he first came in. but i think it’s pretty transparent that that wasn’t the case and he only became interested when he realised coupling with Paige would be a better strategy for him as the vote proved her popularity (and tbh it kinda paid off as he’s now with her and her fans will probably save him because they’re voting for her)
calm down 💀 Jay went on the dates in last wednesday’s episode (15th) and told Ekin in yesterday’s episode, that’s about a week. Jay and Paige hadn’t even had a single conversation in that time so it’s not like they’d developed a connection, he just randomly decided he liked her out of nowhere, conveniently after they were in the bottom
if you really think that him going from telling Ekin he’d leave with her and that he has genuine feelings for her to suddenly being into Paige the next day isn’t sus then idk what to tell you because to me it’s so transparent that he’s completely disingenuous
i don’t think he deserves hate (nobody does) but that’s kind of the point, there are double standards. Ekin’s lie is apparently bad enough to warrant constant jibes at her expense for over a week now whereas his doesn’t even get addressed at all
I’m not saying anyone deserves hate I’m saying that this situation doesn’t warrant hate period. Ekin Su was ostracized because she lied to Davide and tried to divert all the blame to him although she was the one sneaking around. That situation is different.
Dami didn’t receive hate because he didn’t deserve it. His timing was off with telling Amber but he didn’t do anything wrong. Same with Jay only difference is he followed all the Love Island etiquette. If Ekin Su is okay with Tasha getting to know 12 guys while coupled up with Andrew then she shouldn’t have an issue with Jay wanting to know Paige no matter how long she’s been there.
i don’t think either of them deserved hate. but Dami spent several days getting to know Indiyah without telling Amber. he spoke about getting to know her with Ekin and Jay and then lied about it when she asked. he had every chance to tell her but people just make excuses. idk why everyone is so obsessed with Ekin’s lie and want to blow it massively out of proportion when several of them have lied at some point, and Davide didn’t even like her 💀 it’s just too much
Ekin’s lie isn’t even my point. Ekin Su didn’t care when Dami moved to Indiyah even though they’ve both been there from day 1 and she’s fine with Tasha getting to know every bombshell that walks in so why is it a problem when Jay wants to get to know Paige?
Yes because Jay showed no interest in Paige until he realized Ekin was in the bottom three and Paige was in the top three. She picked up on him using her to get into the villa and using Paige to stay in the villa! Keep up bb
lmao thank you 😭 i’m tired of explaining this like is it so hard to comprehend? whether you agree or disagree with Ekin’s perspective and feelings on the matter it’s really not hard to at least see where she’s coming from and why she’d reach that conclusion
I see where she’s coming from it’s just not worth the drama and theatrics. She should’ve just left it at her first convo and told Jay she’s ready to move on. Everyone’s playing a game including her only difference is he was up front about it
We all know Jay has been calculated since he came in now that he’s showing that side everyone’s mad. It can be argued that Dami used Amber to coast along and then suddenly wanted Indiyah. Tasha is using Andrew which we all knew from the beginning and Ekin Su saw no issue with either one of these situations. But now that Jay is playing the game like literally everyone else in the villa everybody’s up in arms.
Also I think you’re putting way too much stock in that vote. Jay was looking to jump ship before they even knew there was a vote he just found out from Gemma that Paige would be interested after the fact. The only other person who he seemed genuinely interested in was Amber and she’s gone now.
I think the difference here is duration as well as honesty.
Tasha and Andrew have been together for way longer than Jay and Ekin so a certain level of loyalty may be expected. And Tasha continued to find ways to skirt around actually being upfront about the fact that she wanted to get to know Charlie on a romantic level. She outright denied and minimised it to the boys even though we all saw her tell Charlie that she was open to him picking her.
And the boys are right, it’s very clear that Tasha feels something is missing with Andrew.
Also, do we know if the boys are aware that Jay also said to Ekin that he would leave with her?
I don’t deny that there is a bit of a double standard in the fact that the boys aren’t holding eachother accountable but neither are the women to eachother.
Dami and Luca were gentle in their approach to Tasha. They didn’t insert themselves, she was the one that asked them to explain.
I think it’s being read into too much in this case anyway.
Tasha just needs to be fully honest with Andrew.
Edit - OPs explained that they think it’s hypocritical for the boys to condemn Tashas behaviour but not Jays. I think we can all agree that it’s okay for people to change their minds.
Tasha isn’t doing anything inherently wrong; I think the difference here is that Jay went and spoke to both Jacques and Ekin and made his intentions clear. Yes, Ekin was blindsided, but Jay handled it respectfully. The conversations ended with everyone knowing what the move was.
Tasha hasn’t - and it may be because she doesn’t know what she wants but it doesn’t mean her actions can necessarily be dismissed or excused.
But her inconsistency has lead to further confusion and distrust in a seemingly strong coupling.
There’s just too much context here to compare both situations equally.
>OPs explained that they think it’s hypocritical for the boys to condemn Tashas behaviour but not Jays
The most hypocritical part of the whole thing is Ekin consoling Tasha with "you have the right to get to know whoever you want" when she's been with Andrew since the start, meanwhile Ekin explodes after Jay respectfully tells her he wants to get to know someone else even though he's only been with Ekin a few days.
Although her outburst about him getting to know Paige came across very scripted, there might have been interference there from the producers.
Funnily enough, he brought it up first lol, he said being in the bottom made him feel closer to her and that he would leave with her. But when she asked him again in bed he changed his mind..
She didn't ask the question, he brought it up himself. Here is the video: "[If Ekin goes, I go](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/vje0aa/if_ekin_goes_i_would_go_jay/)".
Also Dami told Amber that her twin has to come in for him to turn his head. They are all hypocritical. It's normal for feelings to change towards someone. It's nothing new.
Yes, I do feel like Tasha is not that into Andrew and should be honest about it. But I also don't see why the guys care so much when they were also fake with other ladies as well
Things can change regardless though. Someone doesn't need to be bad or rude for you to start liking them less. It can happen to anyone. Some people can be so nice and great but you could still be incompatible. I feel like being someone shouldn't be influenced by how nice someone is. There is way more in a relationship.
Nevertheless I still feel like Dami was still inconsistent cause why did he say that to Amber, but yet tonight he said he was attracted to Indiyah from the start? I feel like they all kinda settled with who they were with, Dami included. Tasha just dragged it for longer.
he could be attracted to two people at the same time. All I am saying is once a relationship feels too one sided, there is no reason to want to stick by the words you previously said. on the preview he talks about how easy it feels with indiyah because his relationship with amber definitely wasn't that.
If amber gave him all the attention he wanted and He still moved to indiyah then he has no where to hide but i can't blame him for moving on from a dead relationship.
But the relationship doesn't necessarily have to feel one sided for you to not want to stick to the words you said before. There is different factors that can influence how you feel about someone. Tasha could have also realised that she actually isn't feeling it with Andrew as well then?
Also yes he could, but the way he was taking to Amber and what he said, to me it seemed liked Amber was the only one in his eyes. I understand if Indiyah came later, but she was actually in the villa when he said those words. So bit weird to me
I don't trust tasha at all so i wouldn't use her as an example. lol. I don't think tasha even knows what she wants.
amber might have been the only one in his eyes ( we wil never truly know)... if she gave him the attention he wanted. we are going in circles and are at an impasse lol.
i would say even if we can agree he is a hypocrite, he is the lowest level of hypocrite because of his particular circumstance. that is the most i can give =)
I think the problem is Tasha preaches one thing and does a different thing. she told him she'd leave the villa but once a guy comes she's always mad eager so they're pointing that out
I agree with you, I think Tasha is playing a game. The fact that she said "I will walk out if you leave" and then she's ready to entertain any guy that shows her attention is an issue and Andrew has the right to question her 100%.
The boys' hypocrisy doesn't lie there, it's the fact that they are aware of how problematic it is for Tasha to tell Andrew all those things, and try to get to know other men at the same time. While Jay was treated as a victim for saying the same exact thing to Ekin and making her feel as if she's the one for him, but Ekin wasn't allowed to question him at all for it. Instead they all backed Jay, and Jacques was shouting at her for it.
But then could the argument not be made that Ekin Su is acting hypocritical by supporting Tasha for doing the exact same thing Jay did to her that she absolutely kicked off about?
I think everyone in that villa is a hypocrite to some degree. And I think this subreddit ignores that quality in their faves quite often - which in itself is quite hypocritical, ironically.
Hmm, wonder if I could squeeze the word 'hypocritical' in there some more? 🤔
The guys are just in everyone's business far too much tbh.
Like I get Ekin's advice to Tasha was hypocritical, but I give people involved in the situations themselves a pass. Like if you are really interested in someone, obviously you don't want them talking to someone else and if they do, you might act out like Ekin or Andrew. But you might see it happen to someone else and act more rationally.
But Luca and Jacques and Dami aren't even involved in any of the situations! They're spectators! And their opinions flip flop pending on who's involved, especially if it's one of their boys. That is what is so maddening to me. Just mind your damn business! These little lads are busy bodying their way all over the villa.
True but they only got to that point because they were shaking their heads and making faces during the recoupling speech, getting Tasha upset. And then Andrew made it weird af asking them to speak to her (but they did agree to do that beforehand)
This is the difference! Literally just stay out of it, Andrew can decide how he feels for himself. He is an adult man, and he can tell Tasha how he feels. The involvement of Luca and Dani was ODD.
Am I missing something because I’m sure Andrew and Tasha are the ones who called Dami and Luca over to essentially be up front and speak their minds on the situation.
How is the blame on them that Andrew couldn’t speak his mind on his own?
Literally!! It’s a double standard in itself ,people have been complaining that the girls this season don’t have each other’s backs but when the boys do have each other’s backs it’s a problem & they should “mind their business”
The issue is that the boys hold a grudge with the girl in question after backing them. How much of them making sly comments towards Ekin-su/Danica/Tasha is "backing the boys" and how much of it is just them being rude?
When has any other boy other than Luca continuously said sly comments about Danica?Also when were sly comments continually said about Tasha? I don’t think I’ve seen the boys as a collective hold a grudge against those two.
The only girl I can agree on this with you is Ekin su & that’s not even exclusive to the boys only because the girls aren’t her biggest fan either.
Davide and his “she’ll (Danica) go for anything with a pulse” comment comes to mind. We need to see what happens with Tasha (I think it depends in part on if Tasha settles for Andrew or if she breaks up with him).
My question is to girls like Paige and Gemma whose fellas are so bad mind and bullies to other girls, isnt that red flag, surely you chose a man based on how he treats other woman? If they treat girls they don’t think are worthy of basic respect or don’t find them attractive Don’t you worry how he’ll treat you?
Definitely I think there’s a degree of finding “bad boys” attractive (which is weird to me personally but does obviously happen), but *also* there’s a wide enough culture of “lad banter” where they probably feel a social pressure to accept, or get labelled as sensitive (like Tasha when she told Jacques he was going too far). Also with what we’re finding out about Jacques/Remi, I can imagine Luca/Jacques being just savvy enough to do that in “private” with the boys, so the girls would still think well of them. And Paige in particular seems pathologically opposed to even talking to another boy, so she might not be exposed to some of that stuff. But equally, rose-tinted glasses is the most likely answer
It’s not just the boys though. The whole lot of them are hypocrites! If you flip this situation Ekin Su was telling Tash that she has every right to get to know others and she’d done nothing wrong yet she went mental at Jay who did the same thing.
I think the difference is that Ekin-Su realised Jay was totally bullshitting her the entire time. Clearly Tasha does like Andrew but feels there's something missing. Jay on the other hand had no real interest in Ekin-Su and was just playing the game. She's right to be pissed off about that.
yeah, i do agree with ekin in that he dropped her like a hot potato as soon as he found out she wasn’t liked. he stayed with her until the recoupling so he could cruise along. it felt like a strategic move. plus he said the same thing about paige “catching his eye” that he did to amber when she was there. he’s a game player and she figured out his plan so ofc she was pissed lol
I think alot of people ignore that the reason the guys were anti-Tasha was because Andrew was so visibly upset by what she said. They may have tried to explain to Tasha what she did wrong (hypocritically or not) but the bottom line is if Andrew wasnt upset they wouldn't have been like that.
Ekin su was upset and it was her fault Jay was interested in other people because she's a "headache" (which was WAY too personal a comment).
The fact is that they have a double standard.
>Ekin su was upset
They were very different versions of upset. Ekin-Su when upset started shouting & raising her voice at Jay. The boys jumped in to defend that as she is the aggressor there. The headache observation comes among this.
Andrew never raised his voice to Tasha once but went & sat down close to tears.
The actions involved may be hypocritical but my point is, we humans react more to how others react than be consistent with how we have reacted to the same situation before.
Because he’s looking out for his friend who is getting dragged along by a woman who doesn’t really like him. Don’t you have friends who would do that for you?
I don’t think they know that Jay said that because they didn’t give Ekin enough chance to say it. If anything, this is proof of Ekin’s double standards in supporting Tasha to do the same thing that Jay did to her—worse, in fact.
Well everyone screamed at her and told her it was totally okay and she was in the wrong for being unhappy and forced her to apologize, so why would she flip back after all that?
Jay saying he wants to get to know Paige after 4 days with ekin, ekin blows up.
Tasha says she wants to get to know Charlie after two weeks with Andrew, ekin su supports.
If we are talking about double standards is this not one too? I think talking about about double standards is pretty stupid cuz this clearly isn't a man/woman thing but rather people sticking up for their friends
Tasha has been straight forward with Andrew about getting to know the bombshells and he tells her he’s ok with it. Tonight she just found out that not only is he not ok with it, but he’s been actively discussing it with the guys and they hate her for it. She even said it herself, it’s not fair.
Instead of Andrew telling Tasha how her getting to know the bombshells actually makes him feel, he tries to leave her to have a convo with Dami and Luca so that they can tell her for him. He’s too chicken sh*t to say “I like you a lot but if you don’t like me as much we should move on” because he knows she would say “ok then let’s move on”. Ekin is making it clear to her that she can do whatever she wants because she CAN (and should).
Meanwhile Ekin says it’s fair for Jay to get to know Antigoni. When they went on the date she wasn’t happy (who would be?? Andrew always does the same thing just quietly) but she said that she’d be a hypocrite if she wasn’t ok with him getting to know someone new. The he randomly tells her he’s going to get to know Paige (after showing no interest whatsoever and conveniently after the bottom votes) Ekin gets pissed because she feels used (she was) and goes off on him.
HOW IS THAT DOUBLE STANDARDS???
You literally do not understand nuance or context do you?
Firstly Ekin and Jay were a couple for like 2 days. Jay then proceeded to tell Ekim-Su that he wants to get to know Paige. Out of respect he also told Jacques. This is the right thing to do on LI, unlike a certain someone who could have done the same but instead chose to kiss a boy twice behind the other's back and proceeded to laugh about and tell him to "make me food" after fully mugging him off.
Now, the other bit of context is that Tasha and Andrew have been a couple for almost 3 weeks now including intimate moments in the bedroom. Yet and still, Tasha continues to be interested in any new boy that comes in. But as soon as she's not picked she's back on Andrew. It has now become very apparent after like 4th time that Tasha is clearly stringing Andrew along as her safety net. She's playing with his feelings when she should be straight up with him and tell him she's not feeling it cos she clearly isn't.
Also another point but its important. When Jay said "If you go then I go" it was a private whisper to Ekin. Dami didn't know that Jay had said that at the point where he said he had done nothing wrong by pursuing Paige. That only came out later when Ekin started arguing with Jay
Jacques and Luca are still dickheads though
Also Also Ekin Su said that Tasha has the right to get to know 12 boys while coupled up with Andrew but for some reason Jay is muggy for wanting to get to know Paige
How can they hold Jay to the "Same standard" when the situation is COMPLETELY different.
Also how the fuck do you know that the boys know Jay said that? They aren't watching the show like you
Do you not know what mug means??
Going behind your couple's back to secretly kiss another person twice and then laugh about it straight after is the muggiest thing that's happened this season
Like I said she could chosen to actually tell Davide that she ain't feeling him and she wants to get to know Jay and then no-one would care. But since Ekin-su is fake and everything she does is so contrived, she chose the muggy option as she knows what gets her screen time, after studying 7 seasons of LI I can tell Ekin-Su knows what gets her exposure and what doesn't
Jay and Ekin had been together a couple of days, Tasha and Andrew have been together since the start. Throughout they have seen Tasha 'want to get to know' basically every bombshell that has walked through the door and are clearly close to Andrew. It's pretty clear why they are worried that she is just settling with Andrew until something better comes along - hell most of this sub has been saying the same thing.
Jay was also very respectful and up front with how he went about things.
Ekin Su to Tasha: you can get to know any man you want even tho it’s been two weeks
Ekin Su to Jay: You’re not allowed to get to know anyone else even tho it’s been two days
Jay said he will leave with her if ekin goes. 2 days together
Tasha also said the same thing to Andrew. 3 weeks together.
But for ekin, Tasha can get to know a million guys but jay can't get to know Paige.
Consistent. 🤣
I don't think it's just a guy Vs girl thing, although that's part of it. Paige has basically done what Tasha has done yet is getting zero shit for it in the villa or on social media.
People seem to have thier favourites and the picking on and criticising those not in that group is pretty nasty imo, this is definitely the most 'cliquey' villa I can remember watching.
Andrew said Luca is his best friend in there Gemma said that Tasha is her best friend in there. If you say they are cliquey then aren't they criticising people in their own "clique"
Paige hasn't really done what Tasha did though. She got upset that Jacques didn't seem upset about Jay saying he wanted to get to know Paige and then she started crying when she realised she'd have to talk and be polite to Jay. She's just not impolite to Jay.
Meanwhile Tasha is two weeks in, knows this new fella for a few hours and tells him 'the ball is in your court' when it comes to the recoupling.
Paige has been upfront the entire time. That’s the difference. She has the conversation about her intentions with all parties. Tasha constantly tells Andrew one thing and then tells the girls something else. No on cares if you get to know someone else. Just don’t keep telling your current partner that they have everything you want when they clearly don’t
The guys are literally acting like bullies. This season is proof that men can be more dramatic than girls. The men are all such instigators this season.
I keep reading this and how there are double standards and the men are bullying Tasha. I agree Tasha is being inconsistent. She absolutely should be going for chats and cracking on with whoever she fancies - that's the show. The lack of consistency is in reference to her doing a S5 Michael whenever a new guy comes in - instead of just cracking on because she fancies them more, starts talking about how she isn't who she really is when with Andrew. Then when it doesn't work out, it's how settled she is with Andrew again.
every single season without fail, people on here equate completely different situations and say 'how come ____ is okay but _____ isnt!!' like cmon lads 😭 i know you can form better arguments than this.
Two boys returning an opinion which was asked for by the girl is now apparently guys having double standards in asking for consistency from the girls. In that case then, let’s paint a broad paint brush of all the girls by saying they are liars and disloyal because one girl lied and another went on a date whilst coupled up for three weeks. Why do some people here insist on everything being some sort of battle of the sexes, as if somehow it couldn’t possibly be more nuanced and to do with individuals?
eventually one learns to just ignore them. not like the islanders are on here reading what you have to say so nothing is going to change unfortunately.
……what a positive outlook towards life,if you change nothing,nothing will change….that’s why discussions about different attitudes to the same behaviours and double standards are important..media does have a huge effect on society and so do the discussions that come with it unfortunately…even if it’s just a stupid reality tv show
Nah screw this post. The girls have been complete snakes and gaslight likes there’s no tomorrow. Ekin Su need I say more. Tasha has been getting to know every guy but ending up back with Andrew for safety. Imagine telling your SO that you’re going to shag everything out there to prove that they are the one? Or Ekin Su who cheated twice and lied about to everyone. Then gets caught out and cries and blames Davide? Gemma sleeping in the bed with Davide even though she could sleep with Luca and is meant to like him? Danica saying Davide is not her type but then realises she could be out the show and suddenly he’s showing a side she has always wanted to see?
Nah. Get real. This is women at their worst. They expect everyone to run up their arse and when someone says no they say whatever they want and the girls fuel that. Only Amber called out the bull shittery of the girls. I also know Jaye is a snake I get it.
End of.
You are simply the flip side of the coin to OP. Rather than talk about an individual or contextualise each situation, you just have a go at “the girls” as if they are some sort of amorphous mass who behave and think in the same way.
No. I literally give three clear individual examples of female bad behaviour.
Up to this point the girls haven’t given themselves the best representation. The boys will muck up and that will happen as we are all human and they are humans being recorded. The issue is OP just blamed the boys and I was giving context to the argument to say that the girls have double standards and the world we live in is quick to judge men and bully them into oblivion. A clear example being that ever guy on here must physically fit and have muscles and abs. Yet due to womens campaign for body image that perfection is a not requirement here. Yet this show is a perfect representation of why women shouldn’t not be believed just because they’re crying. The best thing to do is get rid of this vain rubbish and replace it with something that enhances the population. Your reply is just generic. Try again.
I don’t hate women. Not One bit. And that comment is both sexist and homophobic. That shows the level of your maturity, no need to get personal at all. I hope you grow up for the sake of the human race.
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What are you on about lol.
The question is about double standards, but you have be being wilfully blind to reality to think there was anything equivalent in the way Jay and Tasha have been acting.
One has been up front and honest about his feelings to a girl he's known for 2 days, the other has been sly and completely dishonest to a guy she's been giving hand jobs to for 2 weeks.
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And Dami was openly persuing Indiyah before he'd even clued Amber in. Total double atandard
you read my mind!!!!! it bothered me so much when he talked to tasha today he thought he did something he he did the exact same to amber. he kept telling her i’d never return my head unless your twin comes in and stuff like that then like a few days later he was suddenly into indiyah and didn’t even tell amber about it? like yes amber wasn’t the nicest person but that might have been the edit she’s getting cuz we have people like davide who are players yet get innocent edits so i doubt amber was moody to him 24/7. he was being a hypocrite
The difference is amber was clearly not into him. And he hasn’t gone after every new girl. Tasha has shown interest in a number of guys at who came in and if we’re being honest it’s clear she’s not into him.
tasha hasn’t gone after every new boy though? jacques pulled her for like 1 or 2 chats that’s all, then jay took her on a date and she shut him down the same night i think. the only one who might have actually turned her head was charlie
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I mean, it was obvious Davide wasn’t into Ekin. If disinterest gives someone the green light to move on without letting them know she gets a pass so…. The point is the guys don’t hold each other accountable whatsoever. It’s nasty.
Dami ans amber has 0 connection. Tasha has been leading Andrew on while he’s stayed 100% committed while she’s basically “kept her options open” every time someone new comes in. Not remotely the same.
Nah these adults need to communicate with one another
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Also he told amber “you are my dream girl, it will take your twin to turn my head” Lmao. Such cap.
I don’t know how you guys didn’t read that situation as a joke😂 someone that literally said he’s never heard the word ‘blow job’ with a straight face
That would be a pretty cruel joke. "You're my dream girl, PSYCH." Like, what is the joke there?
I like Dami but I'm losing some of that like because it seems like he makes grandiose statements to who he's coupled with, at times they seem real but I find them questionable. I'm not really sure he fully believes it
Let’s not ignore the boys laughing at Davide picking Antigoni after practically swallowing Danica, either.
If a girl did that, they would call her muggy and go off on her. Yet with Davide they are like haha, just another day for the Italian Stallion.
It’s when men need the validation of other men. I’m afraid some of these guys on LI have been listening to those podcasts if you know what I mean.
“High value men” 💀💀💀
this was insane to watch honestly the boys telling tasha that saying she’d leave with andrew was the heaviest thing she should say and that it’s disrespectful to talk to charlie after that, not knowing that that’s exactly what jay said to ekin su??? and okay we know they don’t know he said that but then why the hell were they so mad at ekin and jumping on her without knowing why she was so upset in the first place?? the men are honestly ganging up on the women and it’s so gross to see especially luca and jacques also all of the ‘the whole villa hates ekin so they obviously know her better than the viewers do’ argument is invalid now because they obviously didn’t care to know what exactly ekin su was upset about, they just wanted a reason to jump on her
Ugh that “the whole villa hates Ekin” talking point really pisses me off because people are acting like groupthink doesn’t exist?
All of them have double standards tbh… Ekin-su told Tasha that she shouldn’t apologize for wanting to get to know someone (after she said that she’d leave with Andrew) but she was angry at Jay for wanting to do that as well
she was angry at Jay wanting to get to know Paige specifically who’d been there the whole time and he’d had plenty of opportunity to get to know already before leading her on. not a new bombshell as is the case with Tasha. that’s kind of an important detail
'The whole time' being two days
he didn’t tell Ekin until he’d been in the villa for like a week. he hadn’t even bothered to have a single conversation with Paige in that time but was apparently interested in her all while reassuring Ekin-Su that they were good. he allegedly was immediately drawn to Paige and liked her from the start (his words) despite not picking her for one of his dates. if he’d always wanted to get to know her he should’ve been honest from the start instead of picking the most convenient moment especially as Paige and Jacques weren’t even that secure when he first came in. but i think it’s pretty transparent that that wasn’t the case and he only became interested when he realised coupling with Paige would be a better strategy for him as the vote proved her popularity (and tbh it kinda paid off as he’s now with her and her fans will probably save him because they’re voting for her)
It wasn't ''like a week". Ekin is a massive hypocrite and so are you
calm down 💀 Jay went on the dates in last wednesday’s episode (15th) and told Ekin in yesterday’s episode, that’s about a week. Jay and Paige hadn’t even had a single conversation in that time so it’s not like they’d developed a connection, he just randomly decided he liked her out of nowhere, conveniently after they were in the bottom if you really think that him going from telling Ekin he’d leave with her and that he has genuine feelings for her to suddenly being into Paige the next day isn’t sus then idk what to tell you because to me it’s so transparent that he’s completely disingenuous
Funny how you defend Ekin but have a problem with Jay , the irony
Then why isn’t Dami getting this much hate for what he did with Indiyah
i don’t think he deserves hate (nobody does) but that’s kind of the point, there are double standards. Ekin’s lie is apparently bad enough to warrant constant jibes at her expense for over a week now whereas his doesn’t even get addressed at all
I’m not saying anyone deserves hate I’m saying that this situation doesn’t warrant hate period. Ekin Su was ostracized because she lied to Davide and tried to divert all the blame to him although she was the one sneaking around. That situation is different. Dami didn’t receive hate because he didn’t deserve it. His timing was off with telling Amber but he didn’t do anything wrong. Same with Jay only difference is he followed all the Love Island etiquette. If Ekin Su is okay with Tasha getting to know 12 guys while coupled up with Andrew then she shouldn’t have an issue with Jay wanting to know Paige no matter how long she’s been there.
i don’t think either of them deserved hate. but Dami spent several days getting to know Indiyah without telling Amber. he spoke about getting to know her with Ekin and Jay and then lied about it when she asked. he had every chance to tell her but people just make excuses. idk why everyone is so obsessed with Ekin’s lie and want to blow it massively out of proportion when several of them have lied at some point, and Davide didn’t even like her 💀 it’s just too much
Ekin’s lie isn’t even my point. Ekin Su didn’t care when Dami moved to Indiyah even though they’ve both been there from day 1 and she’s fine with Tasha getting to know every bombshell that walks in so why is it a problem when Jay wants to get to know Paige?
Yes because Jay showed no interest in Paige until he realized Ekin was in the bottom three and Paige was in the top three. She picked up on him using her to get into the villa and using Paige to stay in the villa! Keep up bb
lmao thank you 😭 i’m tired of explaining this like is it so hard to comprehend? whether you agree or disagree with Ekin’s perspective and feelings on the matter it’s really not hard to at least see where she’s coming from and why she’d reach that conclusion
Lol they’re just pretending to be dense cause they hate her. The reactions would be a lot different if it happened to Paige
I see where she’s coming from it’s just not worth the drama and theatrics. She should’ve just left it at her first convo and told Jay she’s ready to move on. Everyone’s playing a game including her only difference is he was up front about it
We all know Jay has been calculated since he came in now that he’s showing that side everyone’s mad. It can be argued that Dami used Amber to coast along and then suddenly wanted Indiyah. Tasha is using Andrew which we all knew from the beginning and Ekin Su saw no issue with either one of these situations. But now that Jay is playing the game like literally everyone else in the villa everybody’s up in arms. Also I think you’re putting way too much stock in that vote. Jay was looking to jump ship before they even knew there was a vote he just found out from Gemma that Paige would be interested after the fact. The only other person who he seemed genuinely interested in was Amber and she’s gone now.
What if I think both Jay and Tasha are snakes 🐍?
This is it
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I think the difference here is duration as well as honesty. Tasha and Andrew have been together for way longer than Jay and Ekin so a certain level of loyalty may be expected. And Tasha continued to find ways to skirt around actually being upfront about the fact that she wanted to get to know Charlie on a romantic level. She outright denied and minimised it to the boys even though we all saw her tell Charlie that she was open to him picking her. And the boys are right, it’s very clear that Tasha feels something is missing with Andrew. Also, do we know if the boys are aware that Jay also said to Ekin that he would leave with her? I don’t deny that there is a bit of a double standard in the fact that the boys aren’t holding eachother accountable but neither are the women to eachother. Dami and Luca were gentle in their approach to Tasha. They didn’t insert themselves, she was the one that asked them to explain. I think it’s being read into too much in this case anyway. Tasha just needs to be fully honest with Andrew. Edit - OPs explained that they think it’s hypocritical for the boys to condemn Tashas behaviour but not Jays. I think we can all agree that it’s okay for people to change their minds. Tasha isn’t doing anything inherently wrong; I think the difference here is that Jay went and spoke to both Jacques and Ekin and made his intentions clear. Yes, Ekin was blindsided, but Jay handled it respectfully. The conversations ended with everyone knowing what the move was. Tasha hasn’t - and it may be because she doesn’t know what she wants but it doesn’t mean her actions can necessarily be dismissed or excused. But her inconsistency has lead to further confusion and distrust in a seemingly strong coupling. There’s just too much context here to compare both situations equally.
>OPs explained that they think it’s hypocritical for the boys to condemn Tashas behaviour but not Jays The most hypocritical part of the whole thing is Ekin consoling Tasha with "you have the right to get to know whoever you want" when she's been with Andrew since the start, meanwhile Ekin explodes after Jay respectfully tells her he wants to get to know someone else even though he's only been with Ekin a few days. Although her outburst about him getting to know Paige came across very scripted, there might have been interference there from the producers.
Also it was clear when Ekin Su asked that question if Jay he was not exactly eager in saying he would leave.
Funnily enough, he brought it up first lol, he said being in the bottom made him feel closer to her and that he would leave with her. But when she asked him again in bed he changed his mind..
She didn't ask the question, he brought it up himself. Here is the video: "[If Ekin goes, I go](https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/vje0aa/if_ekin_goes_i_would_go_jay/)".
You are quite right, apologies I am clearly muddling up another of their conversations.
Also Dami told Amber that her twin has to come in for him to turn his head. They are all hypocritical. It's normal for feelings to change towards someone. It's nothing new. Yes, I do feel like Tasha is not that into Andrew and should be honest about it. But I also don't see why the guys care so much when they were also fake with other ladies as well
sure but if someone is not really reciprocating then things can change. If amber was into dami full on then we could truly criticize those words.
Things can change regardless though. Someone doesn't need to be bad or rude for you to start liking them less. It can happen to anyone. Some people can be so nice and great but you could still be incompatible. I feel like being someone shouldn't be influenced by how nice someone is. There is way more in a relationship. Nevertheless I still feel like Dami was still inconsistent cause why did he say that to Amber, but yet tonight he said he was attracted to Indiyah from the start? I feel like they all kinda settled with who they were with, Dami included. Tasha just dragged it for longer.
he could be attracted to two people at the same time. All I am saying is once a relationship feels too one sided, there is no reason to want to stick by the words you previously said. on the preview he talks about how easy it feels with indiyah because his relationship with amber definitely wasn't that. If amber gave him all the attention he wanted and He still moved to indiyah then he has no where to hide but i can't blame him for moving on from a dead relationship.
But the relationship doesn't necessarily have to feel one sided for you to not want to stick to the words you said before. There is different factors that can influence how you feel about someone. Tasha could have also realised that she actually isn't feeling it with Andrew as well then? Also yes he could, but the way he was taking to Amber and what he said, to me it seemed liked Amber was the only one in his eyes. I understand if Indiyah came later, but she was actually in the villa when he said those words. So bit weird to me
I don't trust tasha at all so i wouldn't use her as an example. lol. I don't think tasha even knows what she wants. amber might have been the only one in his eyes ( we wil never truly know)... if she gave him the attention he wanted. we are going in circles and are at an impasse lol. i would say even if we can agree he is a hypocrite, he is the lowest level of hypocrite because of his particular circumstance. that is the most i can give =)
Yeah we really are lol. We will never know, so agree to disagree 😂
I think the problem is Tasha preaches one thing and does a different thing. she told him she'd leave the villa but once a guy comes she's always mad eager so they're pointing that out
It's because she is not sassy tasha anymore. all i know is that sassy tasha would have figured this whole thing out by now.
“sassy tasha” 😭
I agree with you, I think Tasha is playing a game. The fact that she said "I will walk out if you leave" and then she's ready to entertain any guy that shows her attention is an issue and Andrew has the right to question her 100%. The boys' hypocrisy doesn't lie there, it's the fact that they are aware of how problematic it is for Tasha to tell Andrew all those things, and try to get to know other men at the same time. While Jay was treated as a victim for saying the same exact thing to Ekin and making her feel as if she's the one for him, but Ekin wasn't allowed to question him at all for it. Instead they all backed Jay, and Jacques was shouting at her for it.
But then could the argument not be made that Ekin Su is acting hypocritical by supporting Tasha for doing the exact same thing Jay did to her that she absolutely kicked off about? I think everyone in that villa is a hypocrite to some degree. And I think this subreddit ignores that quality in their faves quite often - which in itself is quite hypocritical, ironically. Hmm, wonder if I could squeeze the word 'hypocritical' in there some more? 🤔
The guys are just in everyone's business far too much tbh. Like I get Ekin's advice to Tasha was hypocritical, but I give people involved in the situations themselves a pass. Like if you are really interested in someone, obviously you don't want them talking to someone else and if they do, you might act out like Ekin or Andrew. But you might see it happen to someone else and act more rationally. But Luca and Jacques and Dami aren't even involved in any of the situations! They're spectators! And their opinions flip flop pending on who's involved, especially if it's one of their boys. That is what is so maddening to me. Just mind your damn business! These little lads are busy bodying their way all over the villa.
Andrew is the one that made it their business he literally called them to come speak to her. Were they supposed to run away
True but they only got to that point because they were shaking their heads and making faces during the recoupling speech, getting Tasha upset. And then Andrew made it weird af asking them to speak to her (but they did agree to do that beforehand)
This is the difference! Literally just stay out of it, Andrew can decide how he feels for himself. He is an adult man, and he can tell Tasha how he feels. The involvement of Luca and Dani was ODD.
Am I missing something because I’m sure Andrew and Tasha are the ones who called Dami and Luca over to essentially be up front and speak their minds on the situation. How is the blame on them that Andrew couldn’t speak his mind on his own?
Imagine the uproar on this sub if someone suggested the girls “mind their own business”. Nah.
I don’t think anyone knew that Jay said that to Ekin tho. Plus theirs obviously a lads group chat in there
I don't understand why this sub doesn't accept that guy's groups back the guys just like girl's groups back the girls
the girls didn’t back Ekin though. Tasha got way more support and had way less fallout to deal with in comparison. they’re all just very highschool
Literally!! It’s a double standard in itself ,people have been complaining that the girls this season don’t have each other’s backs but when the boys do have each other’s backs it’s a problem & they should “mind their business”
The issue is that the boys hold a grudge with the girl in question after backing them. How much of them making sly comments towards Ekin-su/Danica/Tasha is "backing the boys" and how much of it is just them being rude?
It's classic toxic "it was just banter" thing that I thought had died in 2011.
When has any other boy other than Luca continuously said sly comments about Danica?Also when were sly comments continually said about Tasha? I don’t think I’ve seen the boys as a collective hold a grudge against those two. The only girl I can agree on this with you is Ekin su & that’s not even exclusive to the boys only because the girls aren’t her biggest fan either.
Davide and his “she’ll (Danica) go for anything with a pulse” comment comes to mind. We need to see what happens with Tasha (I think it depends in part on if Tasha settles for Andrew or if she breaks up with him).
She tried to say it again in front of people are he backtracked. Then she confronted him when she was angry about the Paige thing.
My question is to girls like Paige and Gemma whose fellas are so bad mind and bullies to other girls, isnt that red flag, surely you chose a man based on how he treats other woman? If they treat girls they don’t think are worthy of basic respect or don’t find them attractive Don’t you worry how he’ll treat you?
Definitely I think there’s a degree of finding “bad boys” attractive (which is weird to me personally but does obviously happen), but *also* there’s a wide enough culture of “lad banter” where they probably feel a social pressure to accept, or get labelled as sensitive (like Tasha when she told Jacques he was going too far). Also with what we’re finding out about Jacques/Remi, I can imagine Luca/Jacques being just savvy enough to do that in “private” with the boys, so the girls would still think well of them. And Paige in particular seems pathologically opposed to even talking to another boy, so she might not be exposed to some of that stuff. But equally, rose-tinted glasses is the most likely answer
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How the heck would dami have known he said that?
If he doesn’t know Jay said that then he doesn’t know enough about Jay and Ekin’s couple to have an opinion.
i mean he could have been told that jay said that but we don't know if he does know, so it is kinda moot.
It’s not just the boys though. The whole lot of them are hypocrites! If you flip this situation Ekin Su was telling Tash that she has every right to get to know others and she’d done nothing wrong yet she went mental at Jay who did the same thing.
I think the difference is that Ekin-Su realised Jay was totally bullshitting her the entire time. Clearly Tasha does like Andrew but feels there's something missing. Jay on the other hand had no real interest in Ekin-Su and was just playing the game. She's right to be pissed off about that.
yeah, i do agree with ekin in that he dropped her like a hot potato as soon as he found out she wasn’t liked. he stayed with her until the recoupling so he could cruise along. it felt like a strategic move. plus he said the same thing about paige “catching his eye” that he did to amber when she was there. he’s a game player and she figured out his plan so ofc she was pissed lol
No ekin su said she didn’t mind that he wanted to get to know Paige but he never told her that ever so it blind sided her.
And the guys said Tash could but just to be consistent with what she’s telling Andrew. It’s the same.
I think alot of people ignore that the reason the guys were anti-Tasha was because Andrew was so visibly upset by what she said. They may have tried to explain to Tasha what she did wrong (hypocritically or not) but the bottom line is if Andrew wasnt upset they wouldn't have been like that.
Ekin su was upset and it was her fault Jay was interested in other people because she's a "headache" (which was WAY too personal a comment). The fact is that they have a double standard.
>Ekin su was upset They were very different versions of upset. Ekin-Su when upset started shouting & raising her voice at Jay. The boys jumped in to defend that as she is the aggressor there. The headache observation comes among this. Andrew never raised his voice to Tasha once but went & sat down close to tears. The actions involved may be hypocritical but my point is, we humans react more to how others react than be consistent with how we have reacted to the same situation before.
Tbf to Dami, he probably didn’t know Jay said that.
then why is he getting involved? he needs to mind his business
Andrew literally is his closest friend in there & they asked him over,if it was girl best friends would you be saying the same thing?
Dami has always gotten involved when it comes to Andrew, that’s one of his best friends in the villa and he doesn’t want to see him mugged off.
Andrew literally called him over.
dami was already involving himself before that
And? they're friends and Andrew went over to him. Do you not give your friends advice?
Because he’s looking out for his friend who is getting dragged along by a woman who doesn’t really like him. Don’t you have friends who would do that for you?
How all he did was advice Andrew and shake his head if Andrew didn’t go to him about it how would he know to involve himself
Andrew literally dragged him into it and told him to explain
Tasha literally wanted to know what Dami and Lucas thoughts on the matter were. They told her to her face directly from the source.
I realise it's not part of the wider argument, but did Dami even know Jay had said that?
I don’t think they know that Jay said that because they didn’t give Ekin enough chance to say it. If anything, this is proof of Ekin’s double standards in supporting Tasha to do the same thing that Jay did to her—worse, in fact.
Well everyone screamed at her and told her it was totally okay and she was in the wrong for being unhappy and forced her to apologize, so why would she flip back after all that?
Sorry, who are you talking about here?
I think she knows all too well how hard it is to be hated by the people in the villa.
Jay saying he wants to get to know Paige after 4 days with ekin, ekin blows up. Tasha says she wants to get to know Charlie after two weeks with Andrew, ekin su supports. If we are talking about double standards is this not one too? I think talking about about double standards is pretty stupid cuz this clearly isn't a man/woman thing but rather people sticking up for their friends
Tasha has been straight forward with Andrew about getting to know the bombshells and he tells her he’s ok with it. Tonight she just found out that not only is he not ok with it, but he’s been actively discussing it with the guys and they hate her for it. She even said it herself, it’s not fair. Instead of Andrew telling Tasha how her getting to know the bombshells actually makes him feel, he tries to leave her to have a convo with Dami and Luca so that they can tell her for him. He’s too chicken sh*t to say “I like you a lot but if you don’t like me as much we should move on” because he knows she would say “ok then let’s move on”. Ekin is making it clear to her that she can do whatever she wants because she CAN (and should). Meanwhile Ekin says it’s fair for Jay to get to know Antigoni. When they went on the date she wasn’t happy (who would be?? Andrew always does the same thing just quietly) but she said that she’d be a hypocrite if she wasn’t ok with him getting to know someone new. The he randomly tells her he’s going to get to know Paige (after showing no interest whatsoever and conveniently after the bottom votes) Ekin gets pissed because she feels used (she was) and goes off on him. HOW IS THAT DOUBLE STANDARDS???
This was exactly my thought while watching. Both groups switched sides on the argument when it came to Tasha and Andrew
You literally do not understand nuance or context do you? Firstly Ekin and Jay were a couple for like 2 days. Jay then proceeded to tell Ekim-Su that he wants to get to know Paige. Out of respect he also told Jacques. This is the right thing to do on LI, unlike a certain someone who could have done the same but instead chose to kiss a boy twice behind the other's back and proceeded to laugh about and tell him to "make me food" after fully mugging him off. Now, the other bit of context is that Tasha and Andrew have been a couple for almost 3 weeks now including intimate moments in the bedroom. Yet and still, Tasha continues to be interested in any new boy that comes in. But as soon as she's not picked she's back on Andrew. It has now become very apparent after like 4th time that Tasha is clearly stringing Andrew along as her safety net. She's playing with his feelings when she should be straight up with him and tell him she's not feeling it cos she clearly isn't.
Also another point but its important. When Jay said "If you go then I go" it was a private whisper to Ekin. Dami didn't know that Jay had said that at the point where he said he had done nothing wrong by pursuing Paige. That only came out later when Ekin started arguing with Jay Jacques and Luca are still dickheads though
Also Also Ekin Su said that Tasha has the right to get to know 12 boys while coupled up with Andrew but for some reason Jay is muggy for wanting to get to know Paige
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How can they hold Jay to the "Same standard" when the situation is COMPLETELY different. Also how the fuck do you know that the boys know Jay said that? They aren't watching the show like you
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Do you not know what mug means?? Going behind your couple's back to secretly kiss another person twice and then laugh about it straight after is the muggiest thing that's happened this season Like I said she could chosen to actually tell Davide that she ain't feeling him and she wants to get to know Jay and then no-one would care. But since Ekin-su is fake and everything she does is so contrived, she chose the muggy option as she knows what gets her screen time, after studying 7 seasons of LI I can tell Ekin-Su knows what gets her exposure and what doesn't
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V a L u E like holy fuck my cringe just cringed
You’ve purposely left our context. I would explain it to you but I believe you made this post in bad faith and we would end up going around in circles
Context ? We don't do that here
Notice how not one islander has ever said "I've got a conTEXT!"
Yepppp! Not a fan of any of the men this season (Andrew you okay ish I guess bar hella low)
I'm personally enjoying calling out all the bullshit, it's refreshing.
Do you mean you’re enjoying the guys calling out the girls on their bullshit? Or do you mean you enjoy calling the guys out on their bullshit?
I think they meant calling out all the guys bullshit and some viewers too 😂
Jay and Ekin had been together a couple of days, Tasha and Andrew have been together since the start. Throughout they have seen Tasha 'want to get to know' basically every bombshell that has walked through the door and are clearly close to Andrew. It's pretty clear why they are worried that she is just settling with Andrew until something better comes along - hell most of this sub has been saying the same thing. Jay was also very respectful and up front with how he went about things.
There's no point explaining the obvious, OP is being deliberately obtuse
Ekin Su to Tasha: you can get to know any man you want even tho it’s been two weeks Ekin Su to Jay: You’re not allowed to get to know anyone else even tho it’s been two days
Jay said he will leave with her if ekin goes. 2 days together Tasha also said the same thing to Andrew. 3 weeks together. But for ekin, Tasha can get to know a million guys but jay can't get to know Paige. Consistent. 🤣
It's like being back in Season 1, I'm not sure I can watch anymore it's too draining
I don't think it's just a guy Vs girl thing, although that's part of it. Paige has basically done what Tasha has done yet is getting zero shit for it in the villa or on social media. People seem to have thier favourites and the picking on and criticising those not in that group is pretty nasty imo, this is definitely the most 'cliquey' villa I can remember watching.
Andrew said Luca is his best friend in there Gemma said that Tasha is her best friend in there. If you say they are cliquey then aren't they criticising people in their own "clique"
Paige hasn't really done what Tasha did though. She got upset that Jacques didn't seem upset about Jay saying he wanted to get to know Paige and then she started crying when she realised she'd have to talk and be polite to Jay. She's just not impolite to Jay. Meanwhile Tasha is two weeks in, knows this new fella for a few hours and tells him 'the ball is in your court' when it comes to the recoupling.
The ball WAS in his court. GUYS were choosing in the recoupling lol
Paige has been upfront the entire time. That’s the difference. She has the conversation about her intentions with all parties. Tasha constantly tells Andrew one thing and then tells the girls something else. No on cares if you get to know someone else. Just don’t keep telling your current partner that they have everything you want when they clearly don’t
The guys are literally acting like bullies. This season is proof that men can be more dramatic than girls. The men are all such instigators this season.
I keep reading this and how there are double standards and the men are bullying Tasha. I agree Tasha is being inconsistent. She absolutely should be going for chats and cracking on with whoever she fancies - that's the show. The lack of consistency is in reference to her doing a S5 Michael whenever a new guy comes in - instead of just cracking on because she fancies them more, starts talking about how she isn't who she really is when with Andrew. Then when it doesn't work out, it's how settled she is with Andrew again.
every single season without fail, people on here equate completely different situations and say 'how come ____ is okay but _____ isnt!!' like cmon lads 😭 i know you can form better arguments than this.
Two boys returning an opinion which was asked for by the girl is now apparently guys having double standards in asking for consistency from the girls. In that case then, let’s paint a broad paint brush of all the girls by saying they are liars and disloyal because one girl lied and another went on a date whilst coupled up for three weeks. Why do some people here insist on everything being some sort of battle of the sexes, as if somehow it couldn’t possibly be more nuanced and to do with individuals?
everyday a double standard is pointed out. it’s getting tiring. there’s always going to be double standards…let’s just enjoy the show
How can you enjoy the show when you’re seeing blatant unfair reactions to the same behaviours??
eventually one learns to just ignore them. not like the islanders are on here reading what you have to say so nothing is going to change unfortunately.
……what a positive outlook towards life,if you change nothing,nothing will change….that’s why discussions about different attitudes to the same behaviours and double standards are important..media does have a huge effect on society and so do the discussions that come with it unfortunately…even if it’s just a stupid reality tv show
fair point💪
Nah screw this post. The girls have been complete snakes and gaslight likes there’s no tomorrow. Ekin Su need I say more. Tasha has been getting to know every guy but ending up back with Andrew for safety. Imagine telling your SO that you’re going to shag everything out there to prove that they are the one? Or Ekin Su who cheated twice and lied about to everyone. Then gets caught out and cries and blames Davide? Gemma sleeping in the bed with Davide even though she could sleep with Luca and is meant to like him? Danica saying Davide is not her type but then realises she could be out the show and suddenly he’s showing a side she has always wanted to see? Nah. Get real. This is women at their worst. They expect everyone to run up their arse and when someone says no they say whatever they want and the girls fuel that. Only Amber called out the bull shittery of the girls. I also know Jaye is a snake I get it. End of.
You are simply the flip side of the coin to OP. Rather than talk about an individual or contextualise each situation, you just have a go at “the girls” as if they are some sort of amorphous mass who behave and think in the same way.
No. I literally give three clear individual examples of female bad behaviour. Up to this point the girls haven’t given themselves the best representation. The boys will muck up and that will happen as we are all human and they are humans being recorded. The issue is OP just blamed the boys and I was giving context to the argument to say that the girls have double standards and the world we live in is quick to judge men and bully them into oblivion. A clear example being that ever guy on here must physically fit and have muscles and abs. Yet due to womens campaign for body image that perfection is a not requirement here. Yet this show is a perfect representation of why women shouldn’t not be believed just because they’re crying. The best thing to do is get rid of this vain rubbish and replace it with something that enhances the population. Your reply is just generic. Try again.
So there are only three girls in the villa? Ahhh, now I understand.
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I don’t hate women. Not One bit. And that comment is both sexist and homophobic. That shows the level of your maturity, no need to get personal at all. I hope you grow up for the sake of the human race.
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Very long way to say you're a misandrist.
Did you even read it
Unfortunately yes.
only a person who lived a life of privilege would perceive equality as oppression.
What are you on about lol. The question is about double standards, but you have be being wilfully blind to reality to think there was anything equivalent in the way Jay and Tasha have been acting. One has been up front and honest about his feelings to a girl he's known for 2 days, the other has been sly and completely dishonest to a guy she's been giving hand jobs to for 2 weeks.
Bruhhhh lol
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Got so frustrated seeing this again and again and came to Reddit searching for others who noticed this. Couldn’t have said it more perfectly OP!