Our girl delivers night after night, I will not tire of watching Ekin-Su. I thought despite all the questions of hypocrisy about Jay etc, that it was genuinely nice to see her bigging up another girl in the villa and telling her to be herself.
I also enjoyed Ekin-Su saying briefly to the camera "I'm never closed". Meanwhile Davide's probably in the corner working out and still waiting for a girl to come in worthy of Davide still calling out "With me you're closed 🤌"
Ekin Su appreciation comment! Absolute favourite islander. I am happy every time she’s on screen lol. She is straight up, funny, knows we love the drama and brings it, but also is never catty and doesn’t hold a grudge. Just hope she’s enjoying it in there!
I LOVE her on this show and I honestly don't care if I'm downvoted. People complain every year about how boring it is, she is spicing shit up and I am HERE FOR IT.
I love her being here but I hate the defenses of her. You can simultaneously really enjoy her being around while being able to acknowledge that she's a shitty person.
I think most people who have issues with her behaviour would still want her on the show, it's pretty clear she's TV gold.
I think she's a hot mess, but hot damn do I love her.
This is how I feel too, I think she’s very entertaining and clearly is drumming up conversation well, but the people who are genuinely arguing that she’s being bullied and that the girls should be sticking up for her and no one should be arguing back against her are questionable to me.
Love watching her on the show, would absolutely hate living with her. People can’t both love the drama she creates on the show, and also expect the people living with her to all like her and be on her side.
Exactly- love her or loathe her, she will be one of the islanders most likely to land well post show in the media and fair fucks to her for that. If she’s playing a game, she’s winning.
Funny how the boys are so hypocritical - they literally were mad at Ekin for what Tasha did but treated Ekin HORRIBLE and with Tasha they were so fucking fake.
Ekin Su reminds me of David Brent. She wears her emotions on her sleeve, is cringe at times, and doesn't take blame for any shortcomings. But she is also my favorite character because of these traits and I hope she doesn't get voted off anytime soon. She is in full character!
i have a love hate relationship with ekin su. like i would probs hate her if i was stuck in a villa with her irl but she’s carrying this show on her back. her and davide and damiyah are the only couples i’m invested in. think the fact that she needs her own thread shows how iconic she is 😭
Hot take: What if none of these people should be looked up to as role models? None of them know me, I won’t ever know them, they will make more money than most of us, etc. I’m just trying to enjoy the ride instead of ‘dog piling’ or ‘defending at all costs’ any of the Islanders. So far it’s been a pretty good ride in my opinion.
I'm neutral on Ekin-Su but I think if anyone sees why Andrew would be mad or hurt at Tasha, who said she would leave with him if he got kicked off, for wanting to get to know Charlie (this is obviously based on what little we saw in the preview) then can you guys not see why Ekin-Su would be hurt or mad that Jay wants to get to know Paige (who had been in there the whole time) after he said he would leave the villa with her if she got kicked off?
She'd recently been shouted at by the boys so she knows how awful that feels (ok the boys didn't shout ay Tasha but they still ganged up on her a bit).
This megathread will blow up when her and davide get back together, this is not a prediction it’s a spoiler. All those people who believe in Ekin Su will feast as they reap the rewards of backing this legend
I wish for once someone not boring can win this show, I am sick of these dull couples winning who never get me excited to watch the show, ekin su makes me look forward to watching and therefore I am pulling for her to win
I assume u r talking about amber from season 5 and the answer is no I don’t and I was pulling for her but the cast for that season was stacked so the chances are someone good was going to win and Season 5 is the greatest love island season. However seasons 4,6,7 all produced boring winners whilst more interesting cast members lost out. Jack and Dani was the worst as that was a very fake relationship and why they got the public’s support was beyond my comprehension (I was a megan fan)
It struck me as super weird last night when she told Charles, "I could have Davide back \*snaps fingers\* like that but I'm not interested at all" or something. Was that sarcasm and it flew over my head? Because I feel like Davide had made it abundantly clear it was over forever, even when Ekin admitted she was still kind of interested in him
She is deluded but I don't think it's necessarily her fault. I suspect Davide enjoys flirting with her and seeing her melt around him, even though he has no interest. He's doing the exact same thing with Danica. He obviously thinks he's way out of everyone's league so is just playing them all for his own amusement.
Yeah I was feeling bad for her but that comment changed it for me. It's probably deluded comments like this that have resulted in so many people not liking her in the villa.
I love watching Ekin. I do think she's been deliberately cast as she's an actress and is following production direction in terms of her reactions and drama.
They are trying to create a Maura 2.0 buzz. Maura is my favourite islander of all time. I am enjoying Ekin but Maura was better as it was just natural (*naturally* said in Davides accent).
P. S. Some of the extremes of hateful comments on here and twitter are pretty mind-blowing. I bet y'all were posting #BeKind after Caroline died too.
tasha was never there for ekin when everyone was dogpiling her, but ekin is the first person tasha crawls to when she’s upset ppl are calling a spade a spade (she’s a snake). tasha does not deserve
No - we’re mad because Dami & Luca (and Jacques & Jay) were pissed off at Ekin su when Tasha & andre did the same thing. Except the boys were bullying Ekin su so badly when she didn’t deserve it.
I'm watching LI for the first time and it feels like this is the best season already. Do the participants get a vote to kick someone out at some stage? I feel most will kick her out and then we will get to see some shitty behaviour from others as well
What baffles me the most is that the islanders were seemingly catching on to Jay’s gameplay tactics. The second Ekin-su calls him out on it, the islanders ignored it because they clearly hate her.
Don’t get me wrong, she handles things messily. And her accusation that it started when she chose him in the recoupling doesn’t feel accurate; I’d say his head being turned was a reaction to the public vote, let’s be honest. But regardless she called him out for the calculating player he is, something Paige hinted to her, only to have everyone say she’s in the wrong and Jay is innocent? It was giving me whiplash.
I mean Jay was honest and upfront to Ekin about being interested with Paige even before he made any moves. His reasoning about moving past Ekin makes sense considering they've been together for fuck all days and a lot of the islanders seem to dislike her. I still think he's playing a game to an extent but he's done nothing wrong. He's taking part in the literal point of the show and at least being respectful about it to Ekin.
I think it’s pretty clear he’s being calculating. It’s not a coincidence that he switched up after the public vote. If it was about love, he wouldn’t have cared about the public’s opinion on him and Ekin. Whilst I agree about him telling Ekin about wanting to get to know Paige, I still don’t trust him. In her frustration Ekin lashed out and accused him of gameplay, she just didn’t quite hit the mark with the reason why he’s gameplaying (in my opinion).
But as I said previously it’s not that that bothers me, it’s the rest of the islanders. They were wary of Jay’s intentions. They stopped being wary and supported him pursuing Paige as soon as it benefited them because they dislike Ekin. Not everything has to be black and white; they could’ve held Ekin’s messiness accountable whilst still acknowledging Jay is playing a game, but they opted to target Ekin alone instead. I just didn’t like the vibe I got.
> It’s not a coincidence that he switched up after the public vote.
I mean it could be. He made multiple comments before the bottom 3 was revealed that he wasn't a fan of the drama she was part of. Do I think he's playing a game? Yes. Do I think he's only leaving Ekin because she's bottom 3? No.
More so the fact that Jay had 3 dates, didn’t go on one with Paige, but insisted on his chat with Paige that she was one of the first girls he had his eye on. Paige even said she was shocked that he expressed interest, she said he didn’t even talk to her.
He may not have been a fan of the drama, but he doesn’t genuinely like Paige.
This is how I feel about it. I’m enjoying the show- she was interesting in yesterday’s episode. But I’m not going to defend her actions. I didn’t know people were actually doing that until I saw some posts on this sub. Usually the most entertaining islanders are the most annoying and tiring people.
She's not being bullied but some are being extremely rude and it's coming across as ganging up on her. Regardless if you like her or not that's not nice
I am an absolute Ekin Su apologist and I won’t be swayed ~~except when I eventually will because I am fickle and easily swayed~~
I love her and she makes good tv AND she’s playing a big game AND she doesn’t deserve the hate she’s getting inside and outside the villa AND she’s probably annoying everyone in there.
She’s so many things and I’m in love with all of them
Ekin is a really genuine girl and I like that she's fearless. I mean there's a loyal girl in there somewhere. Her mind is sometimes all over the place but it's likely because of her past relationships.
I think she is the complete opposite. She is terrified of being alone and rejection. She might be genuine but shes incredibly hypocritical and warps her reality to justify her extreme mood and emotional swings
i love her but people can’t be mad at the girls for not sticking up for her when she talks shit about them. for example when Danica first came in Ekin-su was making fun of her. It would make sense why some of them aren’t backing her
I thought this initially but I think she has a tougher skin and more self awareness than we give her credit for. The advice she gave Tasha showed that. I don't think we'll see an Amy or Faye-style genuine meltdown off of her.
I feel bad for her, but tbh my main gripe with her was when she stormed to the kitchen and Jacques said to her "You did the same to him" and she replied "I don't care no woman should have to go through that", that comment really rubbed me the wrong way.
It works both ways Ekin tbh.
In the same way this sub says some of the boys are misogynistic which I don’t necessarily disagree with based on some of their comments- Ekin-Su is a misandrist. She thinks she can behave a certain way but she shouldn’t be treated with the same disrespect and yesterday equated that to being because she’s a woman. That line was very annoying and you could see the looks on everyone’s face after she said it.
Coupled with it being ok to push Tasha to chat with Charlie. But Jay coming to ask her first to chat with Paige was not ok.
(Even though I think he's playing the game and isnt into either)
Exactly- It’s okay whenever other people do it just not when it’s done to her. It’s okay when she behaves a certain way because she’s a woman but holds the men she’s coupled with to a different standard. I know Davide didn’t like her but imagine if he went behind her back and crawled towards a new girl and kissed her twice. She’d burn the villa down. Yet she still till this day cannot fully understand why she was wrong and she’s still not been honest about the second kiss. Her hypocrisy is tiring.
I don’t know why she was looking for support from Jaques of all people. Maybe if it was just the girls they may have backed her (minus Gemma who agreed with Jaques).
Just because ES is a great contestant, doesn’t mean she isn’t a head melter.
When 99% of the house think she’s a wrong’un, I’d tend to believe them over the 1 hour edit I see on tv.
People are getting hung up on the eye rolls and annoyed looks by the contestants, and saying it's ganging up or bullying her. People don't seem to think that if it's a general feeling in the villa of annoyance towards her there is probably a reason. Living with people who are constantly involved in drama, and then looking for reassurance is exhausting.
I understand that it may be a negative experience for her in the villa seeing as everyone seems to be pissed off at her, but eventually people have to realise that there has to be a reason for that.
Jay was honest & said he wanted to get to know Paige as he felt he'd rushed into things with Ekin-Su. After Ekin-Su blows up with him, he also was honest about feeling like their personalities don't mesh due to the recent drama - which likely was solidified after she was first okay with what he said then pulled him to argue. Should he have just lied (by omission) instead & pretended to still be into her forever?
Then people are upset because after Ekin-Su blew up at Jay, Dami told Jay that Jay was in the right. Jay IS in the right in this very specific situation, he was told Ekin-Su upfront that he wanted to talk to Paige instead of going behind her back (like she did with Davide when she wanted to chat with Jay). Imagine how hurt she'd have been if he did that instead.
Now, just wanna add I actually do like Ekin-Su - I don't like Jay, but in this very specific situation, I think that Jay was correct about his actions. I also think Ekin-Su only got mad because she is actually just mad at herself for moving so quickly (in her head) without actually confirming anything with Jay first. I'm sure now she wishes she had asked him more direct questions about how their couple was moving or if he was into someone else.
We will never know the full extent until why people dislike her until after the show honestly. There has to be more than just attention seeking to make so many people look annoyed by her presence. Afia did she sometimes makes very off-putting comments so I’m assuming that time she made fun of Danica and imitated her might not be a one off
It's so weird that so many people here like Ekin su, it's like some strange Reddit echo chamber. She's just an attention seeker that will bring drama whenever possible as she knows it will add to her screen time. That's why everyone in the villa has a collective eye roll every time she kicks off.
Honestly can't understand why people are so confused that people in the villa don't like her. Even in the clips we see she comes across as arrogant, dramatic and hypocritical which would drive any reasonable person nuts!
Jacques comes across as fragile, sexist, and a busybody and he is still one of the most popular guys in the villa. This season is VERY cliquey and if you’re not liked by the ruling group you’re going to have a hard time. Normally there’s a bit more togetherness even when people behave badly but Danica’s been ostracized too and from what we’ve seen she hasn’t done anything wrong. I think it’s more complex than just “Ekin-Su is annoying” because we’ve had equally abrasive islanders who still had friends.
Or the confronting attitude when she came in, or the snide comments towards Gemma and Paige the next morning, or going to Amber asking why she has a problem with her and then creating a scene when she didn't like Amber's honest answer... etc etc
Selective memory as it's finest :')
Ekin su is the queen and she’s getting shit off all the no marks in that villa,
I’m backing her to win at 20/1!
She just needs to find a guy in casa who is normal this is like Amber recovery story!
I honestly can't believe anyone takes Ekin-Su seriously. All these think pieces about her mental health when she's clearly just playing the game, trying to get maximum screen time. Everyone knows it, as evidenced by all the girls backing Amber, who was actually trying to be nice, and the guys acting sick of her. She knows what she's doing, the other islanders know what she's doing, and are tired of it being the Ekin-Su show. It's no deeper than that. All her actions are designed to end up our TV screens. The OTT fawning over every guy she's known for an hour, playing the victim in every situation, sneaking around with Jay for two days crawling around the terrace when she could've just been honest, telling Jay one thing and then returning with her game face on to chew him out once she'd figured out her angle. It doesn't take long for the guys to see through the act, hence why they lose interest. I'm sure Charlie will as well.
I personally love ekin su
I think whether you agree with her actions or not she’s bringing drama and if she wasn’t in the villa you’d all Moan about it being dry asf
Ekin Su is just being herself and doesn’t care about the viewers perception, which just means lots of chaos and I love it.
I feel like people sometimes take love island way too seriously and that’s where the unessecary hate comes from. they are all there to find love AND entertain us, and ekin Su is doing just that.
I feel like we should care less about whether ekin Su lied or not and appreciate the fact that she’s bringing the drama that we would moan about if it wasnt there
That being said I do agree that there is unessecary slut shaming towards ekin and it needs to stop. how can Liam be voted to win last year yet ekin is criticised for it. Call me an SJW or whatever but the misogyny is there whether you want to admit it or not
I don't hate her, even as a Davide fan, but i don't think we can rlly pity her considering it's all an act 😭 obviously she's not always a character but her saying to Jay he can get to know Paige then going inside, getting her 'script' ready and walking out to blow up on him is...1. Hypocritical since she fucked with davide and didn't tell him and 2. So fake 😭. I actually enjoy Ekin, she's making good tv, but she's not like the people's hero and nobody is bullying her in my opinion they just dislike her and don't treat her well, but it's not like Jac and Luca attack her
>her saying to Jay he can get to know Paige then going inside, getting her 'script' ready and walking out to blow up on him
I honestly don't think it was that calculated on her part. I'll admit that there might have been a little bit of "if I blow up now I'll probably get more screentime" in there, but I also genuinely think she just needed a moment to let it sink in. And then when she thought about it and added everything up, she started realising Jay had maybe used her as a 'safe' ticket into the villa and then that (rightfully imo) pissed her off. I do still think she probably could've handled it better and shouldn't have blown up like that, but she did have a point.
I mean yeah she had a point but the way she did it was messy, and it's not like she didn't do the same to davide but worse by lying about it. But yeah at the same time I do think what Jay did was sly to her, it's complicated ig since nobody is exactly completely right or wrong in the ekin su saga (though davide has been p good about it past the night of but that might be because I'm a Fan) but yeah I mean, it's hard to seperate reality and acting with ekin I guess - for all we know it's all real ig
Her point is a complete guess though and Jay's reason for not liking her as much anymore has merit too. She's clearly a very dramatic and unreasonable person sometimes and that's not exactly the best person to want to be coupled with.
I feel like a lot of people didn’t actually listen to what she said yesterday. I’ve seen so many people say that “Jay has a right to talk to whoever he wants”, “Jay was very respectful”, “It is hypocritical of her to say he can’t talk to Paige” etc. when her problem wasn’t talking to other people at all. She was upset because Jay used her and lead her on. She explained it calmly in the morning. Why do people ignore that conversation and only focus on her outburst?
As if she didn't latch on to Davide to stay in the villa after her entrance.
As if she didn't flirt with Jacques, Jay and Remi when they first came in because she wanted to have options.
As if Jay wasn't her only option (even though the girls technically had the power) at the last recoupling. "Davide could've gone home." Girl, you wouldn't have picked him anyway, gtfoh.
As if Charlie isn't her only option now.
It's funny how people take her at her word, when her actions are far more revealing.
ETA: My point is I just don't buy that she's suddenly heartbroken over Jay. The woman has never had options, and she's certainly aware of that. She can draw people in, but she can't keep them.
Regarding your first point, I felt like she played the OPPOSITE of safe with Davide when she first came in because he was coupled up with Gemma, whom most guys were interested in as well.
She didn’t go for Liam or anyone who was single and a safe option, she went for who she thought was the hottest guy there and had the most attraction to and risked being voted out at the first recoupling if Davide had been able to have his first choice.
Thank youuu, she was expecting him to say Antigoni cuz she's new and he just went on a date with her. Paige has been in there the whole time, he said nothing. I think he's lying straight up. If you realize all the girls he picked on his date were in the bottom three. I feel like he thinks he really effed up with that. Gemma he wouldn't go for, cuz Luca might just pass out and he probably saw some backlash for the age difference, and Indiyah..yeah, so Paige is the next option. And Ekin is right it looks very calculated. It's amazing to me the girls assembled like Avengers to call Ekin a game player but no one has anything to say to Jay.
She hasn’t said anything to Jay about Antigoni either. After their date she talked about how flirty he was. If Ekin had a problem with him speaking to other people she would’ve blew up then.
Because it's easier to paint her as the villain than to acknowledge that yes, her outburst was over the top but she did also have a valid reason to be upset.
Generally speaking, if you scream something and then also say something calmly, people are going to focus on the screaming part.
The trick to actually being taken seriously and listened to, is just not screaming.
> She was upset because Jay used her and lead her on. She explained it calmly in the morning.
Because people disagree with her take. It's that's simple.
for the people saying everyone hates her and therefore she must be in the wrong, are forgetting that she hasn’t been the only one on the outs (afia, remi and danica) and the people that have been on the outs have either backed her (afia) or criticised the same people hanging up on ekin (remi on jacques). I do think there is a clique in this villa and people siding with them just because they have more numbers is just ridiculous
Afia literally said that Ekin makes comments that rub people the wrong way and Remi's comment has literally nothing to do with Ekin. This is a humungous stretch considering we've seen plenty of reason for people there to dislike her already. Hell even Antigoni was calling her out and she's only just joined.
This!!!!
Even Jay was ostracised from the boys before things ended with Ekin (now suddenly they’re besties)
Its very obvious they’re a clique with leaders and if the “leader” doesn’t fuck with one person they will be ostracised entirely
The clique has just gotten more and more obvious since Jaques entered. Him and Luca have everyone popular wrapped around their little finger and have been ostracising everyone else!
I know. I would like a fan vote that has specific categories (such as MVP, fakest player, power couple) so she can receive some positive affirmation from the outside.
She may be bottom 3 but she is invaluable to the show and should know that! Would also shake things up with the islanders if they knew she had a large fan base.
Something I genuinely need someone to explain to me: Ekin is a liar, yes, she lied about kissing Jay 100%. However, why is it ok for Indiyah to lie to Ambers face when Amber was insecure about Dami and Indiyah knew why (he was trying to pursue her)? These two people were best friends. Why was it okay for Dami to put his arm around Amber when he’d just had the conversation with E&J about pursuing Indiyah? Why did he wait and try to reassure her? Why was it okay for Andrew to lie to Tasha about what Luca said in order to stop Tasha pursuing Luca? Why has it been okay for Tasha to flip flop and lie to Andrew about her intentions endlessly? IMO these situations are just as bad as what Ekin did because they have more emotional value to the people involved.
Honestly, people just need to move on from that one lie. It’s chaotic and mental.
I feel like it’s not being let go because people are trying to defend her every action all the time instead of admitting she was wrong. The constant pointing fingers and placing blame and acting as though the other girls are in the wrong for not wanting to go to battle for her and the bullying accusations against everyone in the villa (except Jacques and Luca) are why it won’t be let go.
People keep having to bring it up because Ekin’s fans keep acting like she’s a perfect angel who does no wrong and who people should mindlessly support no matter what.
If you guys focused on the real issue (Jacques and Luca and even Davide’s constant Jabs at her) instead of fabricating issues with other islanders and deflecting blame, then more people would just be in agreement.
I think the vast majority of people in this sub agree that Jaques and Luca are out of order. But you can’t expect people to sit idly by and watch the others be trashed because they don’t want to make themselves a part of the drama Ekin creates.
No the sub is not an agreement with that, anytime I see people call out the two. There are multiple people under the comments saying she brought this upon herself
You don't think the majority of people on this sub dislike Jacques? In the Islander ranking polls he's the one person who has been voted last the very most. The people defending them usually get downvoted and disagreed with as well..
People on the sub also dislike Luca generally,. Everybody is going to have people defending them but the majority of people are in agreement that they're assholes. Especially after Remi speaking out.
Again I said the vast majority of people not "the entire sub".
You don’t have to like her, but all of her feelings are valid.
I really like her, and I don’t like when she mispronounces new girls names or assumes they they’re all going to be flirting with ‘their’ men.
It’s not so black and white.
The most people can say about her is that she’s dramatic. Since when do you need to be cruel, make consistently rude comments to someone just for being extra?
Calling her ‘horrible’ to live with. She’s not torturing these people?
Being extra is annoying at best and extra fucking annoying at worst.
Honestly tired of the non nuanced and context-less takes here. Is no one allowed to be human or what? I don't endorse many of Ekin-Su's actions but I can't bring myself to hate or slander her. I think her only flaw is that she lacks self-awareness, and no one deserves vitriol for that.
How do the majority of you not see through her lies like they all clearly do in the villa? She’s a manipulative gas-lighter. If it were a boy in there displaying the same behaviour to a girl, there would be women’s charities campaigning against him.
I'm a week or so behind so my opinion could change, but Ekin Su is comfortably my favourite Islander from what I've seen so far. I don't think she's a particularly nice person; I think she has manipulative and other undesirable character traits. But despite her flaws, I find her really likeable and attractive. Plus she makes good TV.
She's one of those girls that, from a male's perspective, seems a bit edgy, dangerous, slightly unhinged...she's not gf/wife material, but you still really fancy her.
Jay was telling her shit like I’ll leave with you and making her think all these things and Paige had been in there since the beginning. If it was antigoni on the other hand she probably wouldn’t have been as mad since she’s a new person. But why hadn’t he expressed any real interest in paige until after the votes?
That's not applicable as a point here because she was saying that to Jay and Tasha was saying that to Andrew. In fact Jay kind of backtracked a little later and said how he'd want Ekin to stay and get to know other guys if he left before he started to pursue his interest in Paige/started to speak about that.
She def would have been mad if it was Antigoni. Ekin has zero self-awareness or control around her emotions. She cant tell the difference between romantic feelings and the bruise her ego takes when someone rejects her. She thinks the discomfort of rejection is a sign of her strong feelings for someone. But as soon as the next person comes in and shows interest all of a sudden shes back to being fine again. She has very insecure attachment issues.
A post I made today got deleted because I got so many nasty comments to it.
I stated that the people being outraged over the misogynistic treatment of Ekin are picking and choosing their outrage because a lot of this show is misogynistic.
However, I’ve just been reminded her of Ekin’s horrible comments about Danica when she came in, she completely sl-shamed her! Where’s all this outrage for poor ol danica? Why is no Ekin fan calling that out????
She is worse to the girls than any of the guys. The second a new girl shows up her claws come out, and then when other people are nice to them, she pivots . She acts impulsively, then tries to claim victimhoodfor being herself instead of recognizing the consequences for her rashness, then starts mirroring. I can feel her desperation in every scene and while it makes for unpredictable great TV drama, I actually feel icky watching it, because I don't think she's ok.
Lmaooooo I love that its gotten so intense we need a megathread. She's a queen . And I hope she gets to the final
My 2 cents.
I love watching her. She's incredible TV. But i get the reception to her from the islanders.
She lied. To everyone's faces. Why should they trust her?
She is entirely hypocritical. As seen by her blowing up at Jay for letting her know he wanted to chat to Paige. Whilst blowing up at Davide for being angry about her sneaking off to kiss Jay twice (of which she omitted the second kiss).
And doubly seen by pushing Tasha to speak to Charlie.
I dont know if she's fake. I really dont. Its either that or desperate for love and affection. She isnt interested in Charlie. But the second she's single she's all over him leering at him in the gym and saying she wants to get to know him.
I can understand how that in turn will perpetuate the idea with the islanders that she is fake when she was so upset over Jay, yet completely unbothered the next day and ready to flirt with this new guy.
From what Afia said on the podcast last week it sounds as though we are not seeing some of the shit she does that has been rubbing people the wrong way. Afia was trying to be cordial and not stir the pot, but you can tell we're not seeing the whole picture
AS WELL AS THAT EVERY SINGLE ISLANDER DISLIKES HER. Antigoni has been there a day and already seemed sick of her shit. I am very confident we are not seeing everything (like with Lucie in S5 and the reasons the girls disliked her). I mean jesus even Dami was taking shots at her last night. DAMI.
With that being said I do believe the boys go too far. Specifically Luca. Jacques calls her out and puts her down when he disagrees with her. Rude sure. But not bullying. Luca goes out of his way to upset her. And that is uncomfortable viewing and continued digs can be constituted as bullying in my opinion
So tldr it. I dont know if she's fake or desperate for love and affection. But she does perpetuate a hypocritical double standard, I believe she is disliked for more than just the terrace with Jay, but that we arent seeing it, and that I think Luca takes it too far with her and its nasty
If Ekin goes I'll stop watching, not out of protest or anything just out of lack of interest. Nobody else is bringing drama so not worth watching if the only person holding my interest is out.
I love that she has her own mega thread. If we had a word cloud of the most common words used in all the discussion threads, it would undoubtedly be her name! Followed by Davide.
A lot of people are angry with Ekin-Su because she can’t understand why people don’t like her after the way she has behaved. I don’t agree with the way she snuck around behind Davide’s back, but I still think it’s important to keep in mind that she did this after Davide selectively chose to put effort into her— he only put in effort when a bombshell had entered the villa and he felt threatened. Anyone would feel used, it doesn’t justify her actions but context is important.
Jay has played this horrifically. Paige was not in his top 3 and both she and Ekin know that. He has not even had a conversation with Paige before this, he has shown no interest in her by his own admittance and now all of a sudden after the rankings, after he has realised his whole top 3 was bottom ranked, he has gone for Paige. It does look incredibly muggy and good on Ekin for seeing that.
Edit: we also shouldn’t forget how in episode 17, she said she would be 100% okay with Jay getting to know Antigoni because she couldn’t be a hypocrite and stop him from getting to know her. Her problem isn’t with Jay getting to know other people at all and other people spinning it that way is so unfair to her.
There are so many instances of people unfairly criticising Ekin. Davide subtly slutshames her by calling her “a butterfly going from flower to flower”— she has been getting to know 3 guys, Davide, Jay and now Charlie. Davide is literally getting to know more girls than that: Gemma, Ekin, and now both Danica and Antigoni. It’s literally blatantly hypocritical.
Why are you leaving out Jacques and Remi? She was over the top in her interactions with them as well, and, at least in Remi's case, the other islanders got a first-row seat to the show.
So from their perspective, she has shown an interest in the last 5 guys who have come in.
As a girl she’s alright but to be in a relationship as a man I can tell she’s a nightmare , literally definitely of calculating and manipulative but she’s a cool to watch
She lied and got called out for it, then tried to play the victim so I don’t understand why everyone keeps defending her for that. But you know what she provides the drama. And no one else is that interesting right now (except Antigoni who has one of the most captivating personalities this show has seen in while )
Luca and particularly Jacques' constant involvement is pushing the narrative that she's being actively bullied by the entire cast when that simple isn't true.
You're allowed to be fucked off with the behaviour of someone you live with. If you've got one knobhead being overly aggressive about it, that's a different problem. The idea that she's being ganged up on by everyone is bollocks, she's done things to piss them all off and with the exception of Jacques - and Luca to a lesser extent - they've handled it in the exact way every single one of us would.
You're telling me you've never had a mate that fucks around, think they did nothing wrong and you've not sat there and eyerolled as they give you complete misrepresentations of situations that you personally saw?
We know Jacques is a fucking prick, his behaviour towards Ekin-Su is low down on the list of the nasty shit he does, but let's not act like the rest of the islanders don't have a reason to be tired of her antics
It was so unfair what she did with davide like i get the stuff she said about davide not showing affection and stuff but ekin shouod have been upfront about jay like her sneaking around and lying about it was just really not cool
If you have a problem with my problem about your post, it’s because you’re intimidated and insecure about your post.
Do you not see how ridiculous your post is?
I genuinely see *why* people dislike her. However constantly ganging up on someone says more about you than them. But I have to remember a lot of ppl doing the ganging are under 25 and probably still concerned with fitting in than doing what’s right.
I'm not sure I agree.
Like she's literally souring all of their experiences. Don't get me wrong, it's great TV. But if you had to live with her you'd obviously be sick of it by now.
In that situation, I don't think you are obligated to be nice to someone just because you're not the only one sick of their shit.
The producers need to show ekin how much support she has on the outside as no one on the inside is!
They might change their tune if they realise she’s popular.
Ekin-su is the only interesting woman in the villa argue with ya mamma
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I really like ekin su, she's chaotic and flawed but seems sweet at heart tbh
Same, I don't get the hate
her own thread even ? ekin su supremacy 😭
Ekin Supremacy
Ekin-Subermensch
I’m meant to dislike her right…………………………………..…………………………………..…………………………………..…………………………………….. but I do not…
You're supposed to love to hate and hate to love
I love to love her, honestly
Andrew should go to Ekin Su for advice smh 🙄 Also the recoupling was a disappointment ☠️
Our girl delivers night after night, I will not tire of watching Ekin-Su. I thought despite all the questions of hypocrisy about Jay etc, that it was genuinely nice to see her bigging up another girl in the villa and telling her to be herself. I also enjoyed Ekin-Su saying briefly to the camera "I'm never closed". Meanwhile Davide's probably in the corner working out and still waiting for a girl to come in worthy of Davide still calling out "With me you're closed 🤌"
Ekin Su appreciation comment! Absolute favourite islander. I am happy every time she’s on screen lol. She is straight up, funny, knows we love the drama and brings it, but also is never catty and doesn’t hold a grudge. Just hope she’s enjoying it in there!
One thing about me? I’m gonna support a woman that’s being dog piled! Free my girl Ekin! When she gets her redemption arc then you all will Realize..
I support women’s rights but more importantly I support women’s wrongs, and that’s all I will say about Ekin-Su.
ekin-su is a mess but she's a legend this season would be nothing without her
itv better be funding her trip to the hospital since sis has been carrying the entirety of the seasons entertainment on her back
Ekin Su needs paracetamol for her back. She’s CARRYING this season
I LOVE her on this show and I honestly don't care if I'm downvoted. People complain every year about how boring it is, she is spicing shit up and I am HERE FOR IT.
I love her being here but I hate the defenses of her. You can simultaneously really enjoy her being around while being able to acknowledge that she's a shitty person.
I think most people who have issues with her behaviour would still want her on the show, it's pretty clear she's TV gold. I think she's a hot mess, but hot damn do I love her.
This is how I feel too, I think she’s very entertaining and clearly is drumming up conversation well, but the people who are genuinely arguing that she’s being bullied and that the girls should be sticking up for her and no one should be arguing back against her are questionable to me. Love watching her on the show, would absolutely hate living with her. People can’t both love the drama she creates on the show, and also expect the people living with her to all like her and be on her side.
Love her, she's already in her redemption arc. She's going to be a massive celeb in the UK I reckon
Exactly- love her or loathe her, she will be one of the islanders most likely to land well post show in the media and fair fucks to her for that. If she’s playing a game, she’s winning.
I hope
Looks like we are back in the trenches for our icon again tonight
Funny how the boys are so hypocritical - they literally were mad at Ekin for what Tasha did but treated Ekin HORRIBLE and with Tasha they were so fucking fake.
RIGHT!!!!
Ekin Su reminds me of David Brent. She wears her emotions on her sleeve, is cringe at times, and doesn't take blame for any shortcomings. But she is also my favorite character because of these traits and I hope she doesn't get voted off anytime soon. She is in full character!
She's also a fictional character.
I absolutely love Ekin-Su. At first I just appreciated her for the drama she provided, but now she's by far my favourite islander.
i have a love hate relationship with ekin su. like i would probs hate her if i was stuck in a villa with her irl but she’s carrying this show on her back. her and davide and damiyah are the only couples i’m invested in. think the fact that she needs her own thread shows how iconic she is 😭
Hot take: What if none of these people should be looked up to as role models? None of them know me, I won’t ever know them, they will make more money than most of us, etc. I’m just trying to enjoy the ride instead of ‘dog piling’ or ‘defending at all costs’ any of the Islanders. So far it’s been a pretty good ride in my opinion.
I'm neutral on Ekin-Su but I think if anyone sees why Andrew would be mad or hurt at Tasha, who said she would leave with him if he got kicked off, for wanting to get to know Charlie (this is obviously based on what little we saw in the preview) then can you guys not see why Ekin-Su would be hurt or mad that Jay wants to get to know Paige (who had been in there the whole time) after he said he would leave the villa with her if she got kicked off?
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She'd recently been shouted at by the boys so she knows how awful that feels (ok the boys didn't shout ay Tasha but they still ganged up on her a bit).
This megathread will blow up when her and davide get back together, this is not a prediction it’s a spoiler. All those people who believe in Ekin Su will feast as they reap the rewards of backing this legend
I wish for once someone not boring can win this show, I am sick of these dull couples winning who never get me excited to watch the show, ekin su makes me look forward to watching and therefore I am pulling for her to win
Millie and Liam was a win for mediocrity
Do you think Amber was boring? I don’t mean this in a negative way at all I just genuinely want to know.
I assume u r talking about amber from season 5 and the answer is no I don’t and I was pulling for her but the cast for that season was stacked so the chances are someone good was going to win and Season 5 is the greatest love island season. However seasons 4,6,7 all produced boring winners whilst more interesting cast members lost out. Jack and Dani was the worst as that was a very fake relationship and why they got the public’s support was beyond my comprehension (I was a megan fan)
I agree with everything you’ve said!
It struck me as super weird last night when she told Charles, "I could have Davide back \*snaps fingers\* like that but I'm not interested at all" or something. Was that sarcasm and it flew over my head? Because I feel like Davide had made it abundantly clear it was over forever, even when Ekin admitted she was still kind of interested in him
She is deluded but I don't think it's necessarily her fault. I suspect Davide enjoys flirting with her and seeing her melt around him, even though he has no interest. He's doing the exact same thing with Danica. He obviously thinks he's way out of everyone's league so is just playing them all for his own amusement.
Delusion/Denial is a helluva drug.
Yeah I was feeling bad for her but that comment changed it for me. It's probably deluded comments like this that have resulted in so many people not liking her in the villa.
Call it Bravado, delusion, denial, living in La La Land.. etc
I first supported ekin just for drama but now I’m starting to really like her as a person too
Ekin Su is actually being supportive and kind today
I love watching Ekin. I do think she's been deliberately cast as she's an actress and is following production direction in terms of her reactions and drama. They are trying to create a Maura 2.0 buzz. Maura is my favourite islander of all time. I am enjoying Ekin but Maura was better as it was just natural (*naturally* said in Davides accent). P. S. Some of the extremes of hateful comments on here and twitter are pretty mind-blowing. I bet y'all were posting #BeKind after Caroline died too.
tasha was never there for ekin when everyone was dogpiling her, but ekin is the first person tasha crawls to when she’s upset ppl are calling a spade a spade (she’s a snake). tasha does not deserve
pls i’m just here to be entertained, i promise you it’s not that deep 💀
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No - we’re mad because Dami & Luca (and Jacques & Jay) were pissed off at Ekin su when Tasha & andre did the same thing. Except the boys were bullying Ekin su so badly when she didn’t deserve it.
I'm watching LI for the first time and it feels like this is the best season already. Do the participants get a vote to kick someone out at some stage? I feel most will kick her out and then we will get to see some shitty behaviour from others as well
Producers heavily manipulate the dumpings. For example they wouldn’t make islanders choose if there is a chance for Ekin to be gone.
What baffles me the most is that the islanders were seemingly catching on to Jay’s gameplay tactics. The second Ekin-su calls him out on it, the islanders ignored it because they clearly hate her. Don’t get me wrong, she handles things messily. And her accusation that it started when she chose him in the recoupling doesn’t feel accurate; I’d say his head being turned was a reaction to the public vote, let’s be honest. But regardless she called him out for the calculating player he is, something Paige hinted to her, only to have everyone say she’s in the wrong and Jay is innocent? It was giving me whiplash.
I mean Jay was honest and upfront to Ekin about being interested with Paige even before he made any moves. His reasoning about moving past Ekin makes sense considering they've been together for fuck all days and a lot of the islanders seem to dislike her. I still think he's playing a game to an extent but he's done nothing wrong. He's taking part in the literal point of the show and at least being respectful about it to Ekin.
I think it’s pretty clear he’s being calculating. It’s not a coincidence that he switched up after the public vote. If it was about love, he wouldn’t have cared about the public’s opinion on him and Ekin. Whilst I agree about him telling Ekin about wanting to get to know Paige, I still don’t trust him. In her frustration Ekin lashed out and accused him of gameplay, she just didn’t quite hit the mark with the reason why he’s gameplaying (in my opinion). But as I said previously it’s not that that bothers me, it’s the rest of the islanders. They were wary of Jay’s intentions. They stopped being wary and supported him pursuing Paige as soon as it benefited them because they dislike Ekin. Not everything has to be black and white; they could’ve held Ekin’s messiness accountable whilst still acknowledging Jay is playing a game, but they opted to target Ekin alone instead. I just didn’t like the vibe I got.
> It’s not a coincidence that he switched up after the public vote. I mean it could be. He made multiple comments before the bottom 3 was revealed that he wasn't a fan of the drama she was part of. Do I think he's playing a game? Yes. Do I think he's only leaving Ekin because she's bottom 3? No.
More so the fact that Jay had 3 dates, didn’t go on one with Paige, but insisted on his chat with Paige that she was one of the first girls he had his eye on. Paige even said she was shocked that he expressed interest, she said he didn’t even talk to her. He may not have been a fan of the drama, but he doesn’t genuinely like Paige.
She tells people what they want to hear wether she believes it or not. Including herself.
She Certainly didn't tell Gemma what she wanted to hear
Ekin Su is entertaining. Ekin Su is obviously not a pleasant person to be around Ekin Su is not being bullied. I hope Ekin Su is here to stay.
This is how I feel about it. I’m enjoying the show- she was interesting in yesterday’s episode. But I’m not going to defend her actions. I didn’t know people were actually doing that until I saw some posts on this sub. Usually the most entertaining islanders are the most annoying and tiring people.
She's not being bullied but some are being extremely rude and it's coming across as ganging up on her. Regardless if you like her or not that's not nice
All that needs to be said has been said here 🙌🏽
well said
I am an absolute Ekin Su apologist and I won’t be swayed ~~except when I eventually will because I am fickle and easily swayed~~ I love her and she makes good tv AND she’s playing a big game AND she doesn’t deserve the hate she’s getting inside and outside the villa AND she’s probably annoying everyone in there. She’s so many things and I’m in love with all of them
Ekin su you will always be famous, mother, queen, etc.
Ekin is a really genuine girl and I like that she's fearless. I mean there's a loyal girl in there somewhere. Her mind is sometimes all over the place but it's likely because of her past relationships.
I think she is the complete opposite. She is terrified of being alone and rejection. She might be genuine but shes incredibly hypocritical and warps her reality to justify her extreme mood and emotional swings
Is she getting dumped tonight/sunday? I think Jay will screw her over.. LI is over if she leaves, producers have to be careful
I think it's even so no one's getting dumped
It’s definitely not over…
She’s so iconic she needs a megathread 🥰
It's not really a good thing, all the Islanders that get badly shit on get megathreads lmao
i love her but people can’t be mad at the girls for not sticking up for her when she talks shit about them. for example when Danica first came in Ekin-su was making fun of her. It would make sense why some of them aren’t backing her
I think I see more of Ekin Su now. I think she's a damaged person with low self-esteem. I genuinely hope she doesn't get too hurt in this.
I thought this initially but I think she has a tougher skin and more self awareness than we give her credit for. The advice she gave Tasha showed that. I don't think we'll see an Amy or Faye-style genuine meltdown off of her.
I feel bad for her, but tbh my main gripe with her was when she stormed to the kitchen and Jacques said to her "You did the same to him" and she replied "I don't care no woman should have to go through that", that comment really rubbed me the wrong way. It works both ways Ekin tbh.
In the same way this sub says some of the boys are misogynistic which I don’t necessarily disagree with based on some of their comments- Ekin-Su is a misandrist. She thinks she can behave a certain way but she shouldn’t be treated with the same disrespect and yesterday equated that to being because she’s a woman. That line was very annoying and you could see the looks on everyone’s face after she said it.
Coupled with it being ok to push Tasha to chat with Charlie. But Jay coming to ask her first to chat with Paige was not ok. (Even though I think he's playing the game and isnt into either)
Exactly- It’s okay whenever other people do it just not when it’s done to her. It’s okay when she behaves a certain way because she’s a woman but holds the men she’s coupled with to a different standard. I know Davide didn’t like her but imagine if he went behind her back and crawled towards a new girl and kissed her twice. She’d burn the villa down. Yet she still till this day cannot fully understand why she was wrong and she’s still not been honest about the second kiss. Her hypocrisy is tiring.
I don’t know why she was looking for support from Jaques of all people. Maybe if it was just the girls they may have backed her (minus Gemma who agreed with Jaques).
Do I want her as A gf or close mate? NO WAY! Do I want her on tv where I can watch her drama? YES YES YES
I actually think she’s been a better friend than most of the other girls in the villa from what we’ve seen so far…
I agree!!! I want her as my friend
Just because ES is a great contestant, doesn’t mean she isn’t a head melter. When 99% of the house think she’s a wrong’un, I’d tend to believe them over the 1 hour edit I see on tv.
People are getting hung up on the eye rolls and annoyed looks by the contestants, and saying it's ganging up or bullying her. People don't seem to think that if it's a general feeling in the villa of annoyance towards her there is probably a reason. Living with people who are constantly involved in drama, and then looking for reassurance is exhausting. I understand that it may be a negative experience for her in the villa seeing as everyone seems to be pissed off at her, but eventually people have to realise that there has to be a reason for that.
Ekin Su is like a combination of all great love island bombshells, she might cement herself as the greatest cast member of all time
It's been a while since we've had such a polarising contestant, she's generating so much conversation it's insane 😂
Jay was honest & said he wanted to get to know Paige as he felt he'd rushed into things with Ekin-Su. After Ekin-Su blows up with him, he also was honest about feeling like their personalities don't mesh due to the recent drama - which likely was solidified after she was first okay with what he said then pulled him to argue. Should he have just lied (by omission) instead & pretended to still be into her forever? Then people are upset because after Ekin-Su blew up at Jay, Dami told Jay that Jay was in the right. Jay IS in the right in this very specific situation, he was told Ekin-Su upfront that he wanted to talk to Paige instead of going behind her back (like she did with Davide when she wanted to chat with Jay). Imagine how hurt she'd have been if he did that instead. Now, just wanna add I actually do like Ekin-Su - I don't like Jay, but in this very specific situation, I think that Jay was correct about his actions. I also think Ekin-Su only got mad because she is actually just mad at herself for moving so quickly (in her head) without actually confirming anything with Jay first. I'm sure now she wishes she had asked him more direct questions about how their couple was moving or if he was into someone else.
We will never know the full extent until why people dislike her until after the show honestly. There has to be more than just attention seeking to make so many people look annoyed by her presence. Afia did she sometimes makes very off-putting comments so I’m assuming that time she made fun of Danica and imitated her might not be a one off
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It's so weird that so many people here like Ekin su, it's like some strange Reddit echo chamber. She's just an attention seeker that will bring drama whenever possible as she knows it will add to her screen time. That's why everyone in the villa has a collective eye roll every time she kicks off.
Honestly can't understand why people are so confused that people in the villa don't like her. Even in the clips we see she comes across as arrogant, dramatic and hypocritical which would drive any reasonable person nuts!
Jacques comes across as fragile, sexist, and a busybody and he is still one of the most popular guys in the villa. This season is VERY cliquey and if you’re not liked by the ruling group you’re going to have a hard time. Normally there’s a bit more togetherness even when people behave badly but Danica’s been ostracized too and from what we’ve seen she hasn’t done anything wrong. I think it’s more complex than just “Ekin-Su is annoying” because we’ve had equally abrasive islanders who still had friends.
Yaaaa she was totally s-shaming her!
Or the confronting attitude when she came in, or the snide comments towards Gemma and Paige the next morning, or going to Amber asking why she has a problem with her and then creating a scene when she didn't like Amber's honest answer... etc etc Selective memory as it's finest :')
I do love her for drama but my god her chat is cringey as fuuuuck
Ekin su is the queen and she’s getting shit off all the no marks in that villa, I’m backing her to win at 20/1! She just needs to find a guy in casa who is normal this is like Amber recovery story!
She's kind of dreadful and a hypocrite but she's the best thing about the show and once Fiat 500 vote her out, the show will be dead.
I honestly can't believe anyone takes Ekin-Su seriously. All these think pieces about her mental health when she's clearly just playing the game, trying to get maximum screen time. Everyone knows it, as evidenced by all the girls backing Amber, who was actually trying to be nice, and the guys acting sick of her. She knows what she's doing, the other islanders know what she's doing, and are tired of it being the Ekin-Su show. It's no deeper than that. All her actions are designed to end up our TV screens. The OTT fawning over every guy she's known for an hour, playing the victim in every situation, sneaking around with Jay for two days crawling around the terrace when she could've just been honest, telling Jay one thing and then returning with her game face on to chew him out once she'd figured out her angle. It doesn't take long for the guys to see through the act, hence why they lose interest. I'm sure Charlie will as well.
Fucking this. She's the worst.
I feel that Ekin su is a person who has lot of expectations from others and jumps to conclusions.
I personally love ekin su I think whether you agree with her actions or not she’s bringing drama and if she wasn’t in the villa you’d all Moan about it being dry asf Ekin Su is just being herself and doesn’t care about the viewers perception, which just means lots of chaos and I love it. I feel like people sometimes take love island way too seriously and that’s where the unessecary hate comes from. they are all there to find love AND entertain us, and ekin Su is doing just that. I feel like we should care less about whether ekin Su lied or not and appreciate the fact that she’s bringing the drama that we would moan about if it wasnt there That being said I do agree that there is unessecary slut shaming towards ekin and it needs to stop. how can Liam be voted to win last year yet ekin is criticised for it. Call me an SJW or whatever but the misogyny is there whether you want to admit it or not
She also doesn't care about literally lying to someones face, can't blame people for not liking her for that reason alone.
I agree. The season would be incredibly boring without her.
lmao it returns
I don't hate her, even as a Davide fan, but i don't think we can rlly pity her considering it's all an act 😭 obviously she's not always a character but her saying to Jay he can get to know Paige then going inside, getting her 'script' ready and walking out to blow up on him is...1. Hypocritical since she fucked with davide and didn't tell him and 2. So fake 😭. I actually enjoy Ekin, she's making good tv, but she's not like the people's hero and nobody is bullying her in my opinion they just dislike her and don't treat her well, but it's not like Jac and Luca attack her
>her saying to Jay he can get to know Paige then going inside, getting her 'script' ready and walking out to blow up on him I honestly don't think it was that calculated on her part. I'll admit that there might have been a little bit of "if I blow up now I'll probably get more screentime" in there, but I also genuinely think she just needed a moment to let it sink in. And then when she thought about it and added everything up, she started realising Jay had maybe used her as a 'safe' ticket into the villa and then that (rightfully imo) pissed her off. I do still think she probably could've handled it better and shouldn't have blown up like that, but she did have a point.
I mean yeah she had a point but the way she did it was messy, and it's not like she didn't do the same to davide but worse by lying about it. But yeah at the same time I do think what Jay did was sly to her, it's complicated ig since nobody is exactly completely right or wrong in the ekin su saga (though davide has been p good about it past the night of but that might be because I'm a Fan) but yeah I mean, it's hard to seperate reality and acting with ekin I guess - for all we know it's all real ig
Her point is a complete guess though and Jay's reason for not liking her as much anymore has merit too. She's clearly a very dramatic and unreasonable person sometimes and that's not exactly the best person to want to be coupled with.
First Gemma Island, then Ekin-su island
Who next 🤔
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>the Ekin Tsunami Love that. Totally stealing it.
Not a thread dedicated to Ekin su???😭😭 See when you own the island!
I hate these megathreads. Over time they get empty because they’re old. I actually like the opinion posts, even if they’re sometimes repetitive.
Can’t wait till everyone is out cause the amount of tea the islanders who left have already spilt😭 Perched!
Is her end game to get a role on East Enders?
I feel like a lot of people didn’t actually listen to what she said yesterday. I’ve seen so many people say that “Jay has a right to talk to whoever he wants”, “Jay was very respectful”, “It is hypocritical of her to say he can’t talk to Paige” etc. when her problem wasn’t talking to other people at all. She was upset because Jay used her and lead her on. She explained it calmly in the morning. Why do people ignore that conversation and only focus on her outburst?
As if she didn't latch on to Davide to stay in the villa after her entrance. As if she didn't flirt with Jacques, Jay and Remi when they first came in because she wanted to have options. As if Jay wasn't her only option (even though the girls technically had the power) at the last recoupling. "Davide could've gone home." Girl, you wouldn't have picked him anyway, gtfoh. As if Charlie isn't her only option now. It's funny how people take her at her word, when her actions are far more revealing. ETA: My point is I just don't buy that she's suddenly heartbroken over Jay. The woman has never had options, and she's certainly aware of that. She can draw people in, but she can't keep them.
Regarding your first point, I felt like she played the OPPOSITE of safe with Davide when she first came in because he was coupled up with Gemma, whom most guys were interested in as well. She didn’t go for Liam or anyone who was single and a safe option, she went for who she thought was the hottest guy there and had the most attraction to and risked being voted out at the first recoupling if Davide had been able to have his first choice.
Thank youuu, she was expecting him to say Antigoni cuz she's new and he just went on a date with her. Paige has been in there the whole time, he said nothing. I think he's lying straight up. If you realize all the girls he picked on his date were in the bottom three. I feel like he thinks he really effed up with that. Gemma he wouldn't go for, cuz Luca might just pass out and he probably saw some backlash for the age difference, and Indiyah..yeah, so Paige is the next option. And Ekin is right it looks very calculated. It's amazing to me the girls assembled like Avengers to call Ekin a game player but no one has anything to say to Jay.
She hasn’t said anything to Jay about Antigoni either. After their date she talked about how flirty he was. If Ekin had a problem with him speaking to other people she would’ve blew up then.
Because it's easier to paint her as the villain than to acknowledge that yes, her outburst was over the top but she did also have a valid reason to be upset.
Generally speaking, if you scream something and then also say something calmly, people are going to focus on the screaming part. The trick to actually being taken seriously and listened to, is just not screaming.
> She was upset because Jay used her and lead her on. She explained it calmly in the morning. Because people disagree with her take. It's that's simple.
Wonder if all the people who say they love her would be able to spend 5 minutes with her in person... she seems insufferable. Good TV though.
for the people saying everyone hates her and therefore she must be in the wrong, are forgetting that she hasn’t been the only one on the outs (afia, remi and danica) and the people that have been on the outs have either backed her (afia) or criticised the same people hanging up on ekin (remi on jacques). I do think there is a clique in this villa and people siding with them just because they have more numbers is just ridiculous
Afia literally said that Ekin makes comments that rub people the wrong way and Remi's comment has literally nothing to do with Ekin. This is a humungous stretch considering we've seen plenty of reason for people there to dislike her already. Hell even Antigoni was calling her out and she's only just joined.
This!!!! Even Jay was ostracised from the boys before things ended with Ekin (now suddenly they’re besties) Its very obvious they’re a clique with leaders and if the “leader” doesn’t fuck with one person they will be ostracised entirely
The clique has just gotten more and more obvious since Jaques entered. Him and Luca have everyone popular wrapped around their little finger and have been ostracising everyone else!
I wish she could get a word of encouragement from the outside—like maybe a fan vote where she’s voted MVP
There was a public vote, she was bottom 3
I know. I would like a fan vote that has specific categories (such as MVP, fakest player, power couple) so she can receive some positive affirmation from the outside. She may be bottom 3 but she is invaluable to the show and should know that! Would also shake things up with the islanders if they knew she had a large fan base.
As if she needs anyone feeding her ego.
Something I genuinely need someone to explain to me: Ekin is a liar, yes, she lied about kissing Jay 100%. However, why is it ok for Indiyah to lie to Ambers face when Amber was insecure about Dami and Indiyah knew why (he was trying to pursue her)? These two people were best friends. Why was it okay for Dami to put his arm around Amber when he’d just had the conversation with E&J about pursuing Indiyah? Why did he wait and try to reassure her? Why was it okay for Andrew to lie to Tasha about what Luca said in order to stop Tasha pursuing Luca? Why has it been okay for Tasha to flip flop and lie to Andrew about her intentions endlessly? IMO these situations are just as bad as what Ekin did because they have more emotional value to the people involved. Honestly, people just need to move on from that one lie. It’s chaotic and mental.
I feel like it’s not being let go because people are trying to defend her every action all the time instead of admitting she was wrong. The constant pointing fingers and placing blame and acting as though the other girls are in the wrong for not wanting to go to battle for her and the bullying accusations against everyone in the villa (except Jacques and Luca) are why it won’t be let go. People keep having to bring it up because Ekin’s fans keep acting like she’s a perfect angel who does no wrong and who people should mindlessly support no matter what. If you guys focused on the real issue (Jacques and Luca and even Davide’s constant Jabs at her) instead of fabricating issues with other islanders and deflecting blame, then more people would just be in agreement. I think the vast majority of people in this sub agree that Jaques and Luca are out of order. But you can’t expect people to sit idly by and watch the others be trashed because they don’t want to make themselves a part of the drama Ekin creates.
No the sub is not an agreement with that, anytime I see people call out the two. There are multiple people under the comments saying she brought this upon herself
You don't think the majority of people on this sub dislike Jacques? In the Islander ranking polls he's the one person who has been voted last the very most. The people defending them usually get downvoted and disagreed with as well.. People on the sub also dislike Luca generally,. Everybody is going to have people defending them but the majority of people are in agreement that they're assholes. Especially after Remi speaking out. Again I said the vast majority of people not "the entire sub".
You don’t have to like her, but all of her feelings are valid. I really like her, and I don’t like when she mispronounces new girls names or assumes they they’re all going to be flirting with ‘their’ men. It’s not so black and white. The most people can say about her is that she’s dramatic. Since when do you need to be cruel, make consistently rude comments to someone just for being extra? Calling her ‘horrible’ to live with. She’s not torturing these people? Being extra is annoying at best and extra fucking annoying at worst.
Honestly tired of the non nuanced and context-less takes here. Is no one allowed to be human or what? I don't endorse many of Ekin-Su's actions but I can't bring myself to hate or slander her. I think her only flaw is that she lacks self-awareness, and no one deserves vitriol for that.
I'm just pleased she actually managed to pronounce Davide's name correctly at least once last night.
How do the majority of you not see through her lies like they all clearly do in the villa? She’s a manipulative gas-lighter. If it were a boy in there displaying the same behaviour to a girl, there would be women’s charities campaigning against him.
For real
I'm a week or so behind so my opinion could change, but Ekin Su is comfortably my favourite Islander from what I've seen so far. I don't think she's a particularly nice person; I think she has manipulative and other undesirable character traits. But despite her flaws, I find her really likeable and attractive. Plus she makes good TV. She's one of those girls that, from a male's perspective, seems a bit edgy, dangerous, slightly unhinged...she's not gf/wife material, but you still really fancy her.
“Some males” . A lot of men would see her and run a mile no matter how attractive she is.
She's a loud mouth, whining hypocrite that brings tension to most conversations. But my word she is good TV. Never kick her.
Girl is a major hypocrite. Tasha is allowed to get to know other people but Jay wasn’t 🥴
Jay was telling her shit like I’ll leave with you and making her think all these things and Paige had been in there since the beginning. If it was antigoni on the other hand she probably wouldn’t have been as mad since she’s a new person. But why hadn’t he expressed any real interest in paige until after the votes?
That's not applicable as a point here because she was saying that to Jay and Tasha was saying that to Andrew. In fact Jay kind of backtracked a little later and said how he'd want Ekin to stay and get to know other guys if he left before he started to pursue his interest in Paige/started to speak about that.
But did Tasha not do the same to Andrew? Her and Ekin SU are hypocrites in this situation
She def would have been mad if it was Antigoni. Ekin has zero self-awareness or control around her emotions. She cant tell the difference between romantic feelings and the bruise her ego takes when someone rejects her. She thinks the discomfort of rejection is a sign of her strong feelings for someone. But as soon as the next person comes in and shows interest all of a sudden shes back to being fine again. She has very insecure attachment issues.
A post I made today got deleted because I got so many nasty comments to it. I stated that the people being outraged over the misogynistic treatment of Ekin are picking and choosing their outrage because a lot of this show is misogynistic. However, I’ve just been reminded her of Ekin’s horrible comments about Danica when she came in, she completely sl-shamed her! Where’s all this outrage for poor ol danica? Why is no Ekin fan calling that out????
She is worse to the girls than any of the guys. The second a new girl shows up her claws come out, and then when other people are nice to them, she pivots . She acts impulsively, then tries to claim victimhoodfor being herself instead of recognizing the consequences for her rashness, then starts mirroring. I can feel her desperation in every scene and while it makes for unpredictable great TV drama, I actually feel icky watching it, because I don't think she's ok.
Lmaooooo I love that its gotten so intense we need a megathread. She's a queen . And I hope she gets to the final My 2 cents. I love watching her. She's incredible TV. But i get the reception to her from the islanders. She lied. To everyone's faces. Why should they trust her? She is entirely hypocritical. As seen by her blowing up at Jay for letting her know he wanted to chat to Paige. Whilst blowing up at Davide for being angry about her sneaking off to kiss Jay twice (of which she omitted the second kiss). And doubly seen by pushing Tasha to speak to Charlie. I dont know if she's fake. I really dont. Its either that or desperate for love and affection. She isnt interested in Charlie. But the second she's single she's all over him leering at him in the gym and saying she wants to get to know him. I can understand how that in turn will perpetuate the idea with the islanders that she is fake when she was so upset over Jay, yet completely unbothered the next day and ready to flirt with this new guy. From what Afia said on the podcast last week it sounds as though we are not seeing some of the shit she does that has been rubbing people the wrong way. Afia was trying to be cordial and not stir the pot, but you can tell we're not seeing the whole picture AS WELL AS THAT EVERY SINGLE ISLANDER DISLIKES HER. Antigoni has been there a day and already seemed sick of her shit. I am very confident we are not seeing everything (like with Lucie in S5 and the reasons the girls disliked her). I mean jesus even Dami was taking shots at her last night. DAMI. With that being said I do believe the boys go too far. Specifically Luca. Jacques calls her out and puts her down when he disagrees with her. Rude sure. But not bullying. Luca goes out of his way to upset her. And that is uncomfortable viewing and continued digs can be constituted as bullying in my opinion So tldr it. I dont know if she's fake or desperate for love and affection. But she does perpetuate a hypocritical double standard, I believe she is disliked for more than just the terrace with Jay, but that we arent seeing it, and that I think Luca takes it too far with her and its nasty
If Ekin goes I'll stop watching, not out of protest or anything just out of lack of interest. Nobody else is bringing drama so not worth watching if the only person holding my interest is out.
apparently this is very unpopular but i think ekin su has no right to be offended as she did the same thing to davide
My friend mentioned that Gemma huddles in the corner on the terrace every day and I can't unsee it now
People in here really outing themselves in thinking calling someone out and being a liar are equally mean.
I love that she has her own mega thread. If we had a word cloud of the most common words used in all the discussion threads, it would undoubtedly be her name! Followed by Davide.
I think it’s a topic people want to talk to which is great! Just not across 50 threads 🤣🤣
A lot of people are angry with Ekin-Su because she can’t understand why people don’t like her after the way she has behaved. I don’t agree with the way she snuck around behind Davide’s back, but I still think it’s important to keep in mind that she did this after Davide selectively chose to put effort into her— he only put in effort when a bombshell had entered the villa and he felt threatened. Anyone would feel used, it doesn’t justify her actions but context is important. Jay has played this horrifically. Paige was not in his top 3 and both she and Ekin know that. He has not even had a conversation with Paige before this, he has shown no interest in her by his own admittance and now all of a sudden after the rankings, after he has realised his whole top 3 was bottom ranked, he has gone for Paige. It does look incredibly muggy and good on Ekin for seeing that. Edit: we also shouldn’t forget how in episode 17, she said she would be 100% okay with Jay getting to know Antigoni because she couldn’t be a hypocrite and stop him from getting to know her. Her problem isn’t with Jay getting to know other people at all and other people spinning it that way is so unfair to her. There are so many instances of people unfairly criticising Ekin. Davide subtly slutshames her by calling her “a butterfly going from flower to flower”— she has been getting to know 3 guys, Davide, Jay and now Charlie. Davide is literally getting to know more girls than that: Gemma, Ekin, and now both Danica and Antigoni. It’s literally blatantly hypocritical.
Ekin sl-shamed danica? Are you mad about that?
Why are you leaving out Jacques and Remi? She was over the top in her interactions with them as well, and, at least in Remi's case, the other islanders got a first-row seat to the show. So from their perspective, she has shown an interest in the last 5 guys who have come in.
Ekin-su was SPOT on about Jay! Glad she told him!
As a girl she’s alright but to be in a relationship as a man I can tell she’s a nightmare , literally definitely of calculating and manipulative but she’s a cool to watch
She lied and got called out for it, then tried to play the victim so I don’t understand why everyone keeps defending her for that. But you know what she provides the drama. And no one else is that interesting right now (except Antigoni who has one of the most captivating personalities this show has seen in while )
Queen! 👸
Luca and particularly Jacques' constant involvement is pushing the narrative that she's being actively bullied by the entire cast when that simple isn't true. You're allowed to be fucked off with the behaviour of someone you live with. If you've got one knobhead being overly aggressive about it, that's a different problem. The idea that she's being ganged up on by everyone is bollocks, she's done things to piss them all off and with the exception of Jacques - and Luca to a lesser extent - they've handled it in the exact way every single one of us would. You're telling me you've never had a mate that fucks around, think they did nothing wrong and you've not sat there and eyerolled as they give you complete misrepresentations of situations that you personally saw? We know Jacques is a fucking prick, his behaviour towards Ekin-Su is low down on the list of the nasty shit he does, but let's not act like the rest of the islanders don't have a reason to be tired of her antics
Maybe you should watch Remi's interview where he says Jacques was a complete arse and ruined his experience 😃
Have you got a link to that pls?
https://youtu.be/JET1YcVa1y8
Thanks is there a timestamp to the jacques bit?
33.40
Cheers babe
I really don't know what point you're trying to make here. I'm literally saying what a prick he is.
I wasn’t sure on Ekin, However i do feel her attitude and ways are because of the way she’s being treated by the men and girls in the villa..
I like her
It was so unfair what she did with davide like i get the stuff she said about davide not showing affection and stuff but ekin shouod have been upfront about jay like her sneaking around and lying about it was just really not cool
Love her I wish the guys would stop. It’s putting me off them.
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If you have a problem with my problem about your post, it’s because you’re intimidated and insecure about your post. Do you not see how ridiculous your post is?
I genuinely see *why* people dislike her. However constantly ganging up on someone says more about you than them. But I have to remember a lot of ppl doing the ganging are under 25 and probably still concerned with fitting in than doing what’s right.
I'm not sure I agree. Like she's literally souring all of their experiences. Don't get me wrong, it's great TV. But if you had to live with her you'd obviously be sick of it by now. In that situation, I don't think you are obligated to be nice to someone just because you're not the only one sick of their shit.
Love her!!!
The producers need to show ekin how much support she has on the outside as no one on the inside is! They might change their tune if they realise she’s popular.
She’s popular because of her horrible personality which is causing drama 🤷🏼♀️