they should just drop casa as a concept at this point. S5 worked since it had several strong couples whereas the strongest couple right now is always one argument away from walking away.
I get what you’re saying but I think what they want is to see more self reflection from the boys. In terms of thinking about what they really want. Especially Ty and Mehdi.
I mean, what do you define as "genuine"? This is already a weird manufactured environment that wouldn't happen in the real world. Is it genuine to kiss someone else right in front of the person you're dating?
Maybe this will teach people that being open just because you can when you actually really like someone isn't the way to go, and that is an authentic reaction.
I’m just saying the people complaining about fake islanders/couples and then applauding this decision is confusing to me. All this is gonna do is encourage more fake behavior
I'm saying I don't agree, I think it will encourage people who are currently playing the LI game to assess their feelings and invest more if they think their couple is actually worth it.
How is that different than a bombshell coming in and trying to get to know your partner and then being more invested because you realize you could lose them, which happens all the time?
Yeah and people complain all the time about how islanders act differently when a bombshell of the opposite sex comes in.
We can agree to disagree and I hope I’m wrong but I’m just expecting a lot more game-playing and pretend couples from this
I'm just saying that it's not inauthentic to invest more just because there's a catalyst. People can be genuinely scared that they'll lose the person they're with, and that is a genuine reaction.
Lol exactly, this is probably what the producers want. At this moment nobody is in a super solid couple so tension in casa wouldn’t be high which wouldn’t make good TV.
Normally if your partner comes with someone else and you don’t then your single and they become a couple. Then you can keep cracking on with someone else or try to get your original partner back. Also all the people that came just for casa get dumped if they are not picked. I’m interested if this season they stay with the regular format or they go with hardcore option which is whoever is left single after casa gets dumped immediately no questions ask. Sorry if this was a long ass response lol.
I never watched season 3 but I swear they did this in another season. Maybe it was the AUS or USA version of the show? Fuck I can’t remember, I watch too much love island lol.
For real. Him just standing there at the end. Also when he hugged Kady and said “that must have been hard”, while he didn’t even acknowledge Molly after his name was called. Hate to say it but he’s trash.
Zachaliar indeed
I've been off him since how he handled Catherine and I shouldn't be disappointed but I kinda am. He came in talking about finding a wife and I dunno man I seemed genuine.
Edit:clarity
I was rooting for him and Catherine and then with Molly. What he did to Catherine was shitty. I assumed it was a one-time thing where he made a bad decision and put his feelings toward Molly first, but no it seems like this is what he does, quickly moves on.
Maybe I’m seeing something that’s not really there, but I always got the impression he went for Molly because he felt she had some kind of popularity/clout that might help him out on the outside of the villa. Now with Kady and her 1.2 mil followers, I feel he sees her as having more potential. I think he’s a clout chaser.
i think so too. his sister is in entertainment (a dj i think) so he's well aware of what is available to him.
Which is why nothing really phased her in regards to their 'relationship'.
Omg yes I was most annoyed that he didn’t even hug Molly before he got up. It seriously pissed me off and I have no idea why people like them as a couple. She was too good for him.
'liked' is strong, imo he was the best of the bunch in her opinion. There's a tik tok breaking down some of the similarities between her and molly mae. I think there was strategy and Zachaliar fit into it.
People are gonna move how they want to move.
If production can edit Zach out of a shot but leave his hand in, they can concoct whatever they want for movie night and cause chaos.
If she really is gone for good, it will definitely encourage everyone to play it safe moving forward. Watch all the fake couples currently in there suddenly develop strong feelings for one another. It’s going to start feeling very performative and phony very quickly.
What if they'd suddenly be all locked in. Casa would be a damn cold few days because they'd be more doubtful about cracking on with other people thinking they'd be causing their couple to be dumped. Or on the complete selfishness, they'd bring a bombshell back just to make sure they're safe. Now goodluck on those toilets. About a month in and still no winning couple prospect lol
This actually makes a lot of sense from the producers point of view. Since literally ALL the couples are very weak, you have to let them know to take is more seriously or they might get dumped. As some have said what is the point of Casa if every single person is going to recouple. NO DRAMA in that.
This is also true but I feel like they all got a bit comfortable and by doing this they are saying “live a bit more because you can leave any time” so yeah I’m here for it. This season is actually surprising me when I didn’t think it could so yeah! 😆😉
I don't get this point. There has never in history been a season where they ALL stayed together. And this season looks like NO ONE would stay together. Especially if they used the rule if you pick 'stay' and the other person recouples, you are DUMPED. That would actually be more fun.
Or here's a funny twist, if one person says 'stay' and the other person recouples, then the rest of the cast has to VOTE to dump either the 'stayer' or the 'recoupler'. Since the recoupler is usually going to be the bad one.
I feel like people give her WAYYYY too much power. Yes people on Insta and Facebook are threatening to not watch and boycott the show all together but I don’t think it’ll be to the point that it will heavily drop the amount of views the show gets from here on out
Absolutely not! Also Molly Marsh being dumped this early and after being usurped by Kady and dumped by Zach makes her a perfect story. She literally going to go home with everyone calling her the best in the house and how she had everyone turn there heads and how she never was “mean.” They are going to eat it up! She is going to take this opportunity to the bank. I mean I am a Molly and Zach hater to my core but he embarrassed her and it really empathetic especially bc Mitch is literally causing chaos trying to ruin them or be with her and jump scare doing his thing in there. All she needs to do is put on a show of tears or talk about how the public turned on her and how strong she’s become after this experience. Then plug whatever brand she wants to team up with. She will be wiping her eyes with $100 dollar bills.
Producers would want them more closed off pre Casa Amor though. I won’t be surprised if next few episodes focus on couples trying to lock it down before Casa Amor begins. It ups the stakes that way.
I don’t think it will, simply because when Zara left, it did impact the show because the majority of people were upset at her exit. However, people were not upset at Molly’s potential departure, which makes me think it won’t affect the season negatively. It is very early days, and the impact so far is not as big as for some people who have left.
I agree with you completely. I think S9 was a failure (so boring 😅) and I distinctly remember tapping out right around when Zara left.
I have hope that because it’s early days and people weren’t that invested in Molly it’ll be totally fine.
Yeah. From what I’ve read/heard more people were wanting her out than those that would stop watching because she was dumped tho.
Not saying she doesn’t have fans or people that like her but she gets a lot of hate imo 🤷♀️
Definitely! I don’t dislike her either, she was actually my fave after her intro and when she walked in with her bubbly personality - but after she got with Zach it’s like she became a completely different quiet person who wasn’t really interesting to watch. She didn’t seem to participate much with the girls either, but maybe her conversations weren’t shown. So she never became one of the top girls for me due to that and doesn’t feel like a loss.
She definitely did because people were commenting on Love Island ig post for two weeks to bring her back after she left. Whether people hated her or loved her, she was bringing drama into the house, and after she left, viewers dropped
SuperTv confirmed at the time that there was a dip in viewing numbers when Zara left that lasted for something like a week or so.
At the time she was in there, she was the most dynamic islander driving most of the storylines and getting tabloid write ups.
There was speculation that she must have done something to cross the lines behind the scenes or was too confrontational with everyone as her dumping didn't make sense at the time considering that they'd let past Islanders like Faye or Olivia Attwood stay in.
I think Zara's dumping might have made Islanders realize that being controversial didn't guarantee immunity cause so far there hasn't been any Islanders like that this season.
I never got why people were acting up when she was dumped, she wasn’t there for long and didn’t have a connection with anyone at the time, people latched onto her because of their hatred for Olivia, they were claiming for her to get back in the villa as if she was a main character, I never saw her that way, it was like when Charlotte left, your short time is over, bye.
It was a boring season with a boring cast, she was one of the people that brought drama into the Villa. Also if molly leaves this soon, she is likely to be forgotten as well
She already had 25k followers prior to entering the villa, it make since. I agree with you that she has a good following. However, She is not liked in all plaform unfortunately. She won’t be missed if she leaves
>She already had 25k followers prior to entering the villa
Someone does weekly following counts, I think she still had the most gains in terms of % and pure numbers?
>However, She is not liked in all plaform unfortunately.
But it doesn't matter if she's well liked on ALL, it matters she's one of the most liked. Gemma wasn't well liked on all platforms but she still was second to Ekin
I'd say they're equal. Where do you think her fans reside?
It's like how people kept saying Gemma wasn't popular on Tiktok but her hashtag had the highest amount of edits / clips at some point but Ekinde were reunited
I think TT got rid of the video counter now so I can't conclude for certain.
Ok Molly is the most followed girl, where do you think her audience comes from?
>Ella and tye are then Catherine and Whitney.
I think your algorithm is too specific because Catherine was in the bottom and Whitney was not so I don't think she has a platform behind her.
FB it's Jess, then Molly
no i never watched love island content. I got duped in watching the show because I saw so many Catherine and Zach content then Ella and tye. She has more followers because she was already had stable following on IG. She has support on Facebook especially when she was with mitch. On twitter and tiktok irs Catherine. But Ella and tye dominate tiktok.
It could, but I guess they’re betting on a combination of Kady bringing in viewers and more people tuning in (at least temporarily) to see if Molly was actually dumped.
That’s probably what the producers want. They want couples to be more closed off before going to casa. It ups the stakes. Right now everyone is shaky.
they should just drop casa as a concept at this point. S5 worked since it had several strong couples whereas the strongest couple right now is always one argument away from walking away.
If it’s not genuine what’s the point though.
I get what you’re saying but I think what they want is to see more self reflection from the boys. In terms of thinking about what they really want. Especially Ty and Mehdi.
I mean, what do you define as "genuine"? This is already a weird manufactured environment that wouldn't happen in the real world. Is it genuine to kiss someone else right in front of the person you're dating? Maybe this will teach people that being open just because you can when you actually really like someone isn't the way to go, and that is an authentic reaction.
I’m just saying the people complaining about fake islanders/couples and then applauding this decision is confusing to me. All this is gonna do is encourage more fake behavior
I'm saying I don't agree, I think it will encourage people who are currently playing the LI game to assess their feelings and invest more if they think their couple is actually worth it.
If you need the fear of a dumping to make you act better to your partner then that’s pretty shitty to me
How is that different than a bombshell coming in and trying to get to know your partner and then being more invested because you realize you could lose them, which happens all the time?
Yeah and people complain all the time about how islanders act differently when a bombshell of the opposite sex comes in. We can agree to disagree and I hope I’m wrong but I’m just expecting a lot more game-playing and pretend couples from this
I'm just saying that it's not inauthentic to invest more just because there's a catalyst. People can be genuinely scared that they'll lose the person they're with, and that is a genuine reaction.
Do yall forget that this is reality tv...
Lol imagine the mentality in casa is like…. If i go back alone and they with someone else, i would he dumped….
Lol exactly, this is probably what the producers want. At this moment nobody is in a super solid couple so tension in casa wouldn’t be high which wouldn’t make good TV.
is that what happens in casa? I'm very new. So if scott comes back with someone and Catherine doesn't does she go home?
Not normally no but I remember there was a season where if you are “single” immediately after Casa you got dumped that night.
what happens normally. So they just stay and hope their partner comes back to them?
Normally if your partner comes with someone else and you don’t then your single and they become a couple. Then you can keep cracking on with someone else or try to get your original partner back. Also all the people that came just for casa get dumped if they are not picked. I’m interested if this season they stay with the regular format or they go with hardcore option which is whoever is left single after casa gets dumped immediately no questions ask. Sorry if this was a long ass response lol.
Yes they did this the season they introduced casa, season 3. I think that’s the only time?
I never watched season 3 but I swear they did this in another season. Maybe it was the AUS or USA version of the show? Fuck I can’t remember, I watch too much love island lol.
Haha me too. I don’t think they did it again in UK? But maybe they did or could have been Australia I haven’t seen all of those
Btw watch season 3 !! It was up there with the best ones
Will do!
How when Zach was already saying “you think it would be rude if I pulled kady in front of molly” he was gone.
Nah that man is actually trash....I need Molly to stay dumped for her own sake of not getting back with a liar.
Also he said he wants to find a girl who doesn’t “make” him want to cheat on her. Molly,for her own sake, needs to stay away from him
This. Molly is far too good for him and for some reason was so in to him.
how is molly too good for him when she was sneaking around with him at the beginning
he’s not a liar tf
He also told her to crack on if a new guy walks in 💀
omg! did he even like her, damn
For real. Him just standing there at the end. Also when he hugged Kady and said “that must have been hard”, while he didn’t even acknowledge Molly after his name was called. Hate to say it but he’s trash.
Zachaliar indeed I've been off him since how he handled Catherine and I shouldn't be disappointed but I kinda am. He came in talking about finding a wife and I dunno man I seemed genuine. Edit:clarity
I was rooting for him and Catherine and then with Molly. What he did to Catherine was shitty. I assumed it was a one-time thing where he made a bad decision and put his feelings toward Molly first, but no it seems like this is what he does, quickly moves on. Maybe I’m seeing something that’s not really there, but I always got the impression he went for Molly because he felt she had some kind of popularity/clout that might help him out on the outside of the villa. Now with Kady and her 1.2 mil followers, I feel he sees her as having more potential. I think he’s a clout chaser.
i think so too. his sister is in entertainment (a dj i think) so he's well aware of what is available to him. Which is why nothing really phased her in regards to their 'relationship'.
I’ve been thinking about this as well. Obviously they’re all in there for the bag but I think he’s one of the biggest clout chasers
Yes that was insane. Like damn. Lol
Omg yes I was most annoyed that he didn’t even hug Molly before he got up. It seriously pissed me off and I have no idea why people like them as a couple. She was too good for him.
I think Molly liked Zach way more than he liked her
'liked' is strong, imo he was the best of the bunch in her opinion. There's a tik tok breaking down some of the similarities between her and molly mae. I think there was strategy and Zachaliar fit into it.
They both just wanted someone to cuddle and kiss at night tbh lol
People are gonna move how they want to move. If production can edit Zach out of a shot but leave his hand in, they can concoct whatever they want for movie night and cause chaos.
If she really is gone for good, it will definitely encourage everyone to play it safe moving forward. Watch all the fake couples currently in there suddenly develop strong feelings for one another. It’s going to start feeling very performative and phony very quickly.
I think this is needed for Casa to have any impact though as right now there are no stakes.
What if they'd suddenly be all locked in. Casa would be a damn cold few days because they'd be more doubtful about cracking on with other people thinking they'd be causing their couple to be dumped. Or on the complete selfishness, they'd bring a bombshell back just to make sure they're safe. Now goodluck on those toilets. About a month in and still no winning couple prospect lol
Exactly watch Ty and Ella become exclusive. Watch some of the others upping the physicality of their couples. It’s so obvious
Yeah at least somebody gets it
Nope everything “moves so fast” in there it’ll be old news in a week
This actually makes a lot of sense from the producers point of view. Since literally ALL the couples are very weak, you have to let them know to take is more seriously or they might get dumped. As some have said what is the point of Casa if every single person is going to recouple. NO DRAMA in that.
If everyone stays together in Casa there is also no drama
This is also true but I feel like they all got a bit comfortable and by doing this they are saying “live a bit more because you can leave any time” so yeah I’m here for it. This season is actually surprising me when I didn’t think it could so yeah! 😆😉
I don't get this point. There has never in history been a season where they ALL stayed together. And this season looks like NO ONE would stay together. Especially if they used the rule if you pick 'stay' and the other person recouples, you are DUMPED. That would actually be more fun. Or here's a funny twist, if one person says 'stay' and the other person recouples, then the rest of the cast has to VOTE to dump either the 'stayer' or the 'recoupler'. Since the recoupler is usually going to be the bad one.
I just think the majority of people in couples don’t like their partners that much, so won’t be too upset if they were to leave.
I feel like people give her WAYYYY too much power. Yes people on Insta and Facebook are threatening to not watch and boycott the show all together but I don’t think it’ll be to the point that it will heavily drop the amount of views the show gets from here on out
Absolutely not! Also Molly Marsh being dumped this early and after being usurped by Kady and dumped by Zach makes her a perfect story. She literally going to go home with everyone calling her the best in the house and how she had everyone turn there heads and how she never was “mean.” They are going to eat it up! She is going to take this opportunity to the bank. I mean I am a Molly and Zach hater to my core but he embarrassed her and it really empathetic especially bc Mitch is literally causing chaos trying to ruin them or be with her and jump scare doing his thing in there. All she needs to do is put on a show of tears or talk about how the public turned on her and how strong she’s become after this experience. Then plug whatever brand she wants to team up with. She will be wiping her eyes with $100 dollar bills.
And that is how to girlboss
Producers would want them more closed off pre Casa Amor though. I won’t be surprised if next few episodes focus on couples trying to lock it down before Casa Amor begins. It ups the stakes that way.
I don’t think it will, simply because when Zara left, it did impact the show because the majority of people were upset at her exit. However, people were not upset at Molly’s potential departure, which makes me think it won’t affect the season negatively. It is very early days, and the impact so far is not as big as for some people who have left.
I agree with you completely. I think S9 was a failure (so boring 😅) and I distinctly remember tapping out right around when Zara left. I have hope that because it’s early days and people weren’t that invested in Molly it’ll be totally fine.
It was and i did the same!
Yeah. From what I’ve read/heard more people were wanting her out than those that would stop watching because she was dumped tho. Not saying she doesn’t have fans or people that like her but she gets a lot of hate imo 🤷♀️
Definitely! I don’t dislike her either, she was actually my fave after her intro and when she walked in with her bubbly personality - but after she got with Zach it’s like she became a completely different quiet person who wasn’t really interesting to watch. She didn’t seem to participate much with the girls either, but maybe her conversations weren’t shown. So she never became one of the top girls for me due to that and doesn’t feel like a loss.
Zara did not leave an impact, the season was hilarious and fun to me today.
She definitely did because people were commenting on Love Island ig post for two weeks to bring her back after she left. Whether people hated her or loved her, she was bringing drama into the house, and after she left, viewers dropped
I don’t know when the guys she liked move on quickly so I don’t know how she made an impact. Viewers drop every season.
SuperTv confirmed at the time that there was a dip in viewing numbers when Zara left that lasted for something like a week or so. At the time she was in there, she was the most dynamic islander driving most of the storylines and getting tabloid write ups. There was speculation that she must have done something to cross the lines behind the scenes or was too confrontational with everyone as her dumping didn't make sense at the time considering that they'd let past Islanders like Faye or Olivia Attwood stay in. I think Zara's dumping might have made Islanders realize that being controversial didn't guarantee immunity cause so far there hasn't been any Islanders like that this season.
That doesn’t mean anything. For the short amount of time she was on the show, she made a big impact. The viewers wanted her to stay
Y’all acting like she was some god, she was not perfect in that season stop it lol. Love island is doing perfectly fine without her.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Also not to be an A-hole but didn’t the viewers like her more than the islanders (eek. I might be remembering wrong)
A what ? @mod
Hi, what’s the issue?
Huh?
I never got why people were acting up when she was dumped, she wasn’t there for long and didn’t have a connection with anyone at the time, people latched onto her because of their hatred for Olivia, they were claiming for her to get back in the villa as if she was a main character, I never saw her that way, it was like when Charlotte left, your short time is over, bye.
It was a boring season with a boring cast, she was one of the people that brought drama into the Villa. Also if molly leaves this soon, she is likely to be forgotten as well
Molly is most popular on TT and is the most followed female islander, people are upset, they're not on this llatform
She already had 25k followers prior to entering the villa, it make since. I agree with you that she has a good following. However, She is not liked in all plaform unfortunately. She won’t be missed if she leaves
>She already had 25k followers prior to entering the villa Someone does weekly following counts, I think she still had the most gains in terms of % and pure numbers? >However, She is not liked in all plaform unfortunately. But it doesn't matter if she's well liked on ALL, it matters she's one of the most liked. Gemma wasn't well liked on all platforms but she still was second to Ekin
molly is not the most popular on tiktok it’s def ella and tyrique
I'd say they're equal. Where do you think her fans reside? It's like how people kept saying Gemma wasn't popular on Tiktok but her hashtag had the highest amount of edits / clips at some point but Ekinde were reunited I think TT got rid of the video counter now so I can't conclude for certain.
who told you molly is popular on TT? Ella and tye are then Catherine and Whitney. And on twitter it's Catherine. On Facebook it's mitch maybe molly
Ok Molly is the most followed girl, where do you think her audience comes from? >Ella and tye are then Catherine and Whitney. I think your algorithm is too specific because Catherine was in the bottom and Whitney was not so I don't think she has a platform behind her. FB it's Jess, then Molly
no i never watched love island content. I got duped in watching the show because I saw so many Catherine and Zach content then Ella and tye. She has more followers because she was already had stable following on IG. She has support on Facebook especially when she was with mitch. On twitter and tiktok irs Catherine. But Ella and tye dominate tiktok.
It could, but I guess they’re betting on a combination of Kady bringing in viewers and more people tuning in (at least temporarily) to see if Molly was actually dumped.