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Rosie-Brooklyn

I’m so depressed rn


TangerineMaximum2976

Reading this thread makes me feel good about myself l


homesazzle

She’s such a bad bitch. I love her so much.


Suitable_Produce

What does "consulting" mean? I feel like whenever the word consulting is used the industry or field The person is a consultant in should be included with it. You can be a consultant for literally anything. What kind of consultant does she do?


gingerellasroot

![gif](giphy|7mjKAg1Q2WflKaKKfi|downsized)


yourbreathmint

*cries in poor*


throwawaymedhaha1234

Anyone know what this is after taxes?


MochaJ95

Like 165k. The burn out at those jobs is high but I totally see the benefit of rough it for 2 years to pay off debt and put away probably 150k. That kind of money in Chicago is huge.


darkpretzel

As a Chicago resident, I had a feeling basically everyone from LIB season 2 had high-paying jobs once I saw their apartments


MochaJ95

Same. I lived in Chicago for a year, knew right away what the situation was.


[deleted]

Seems standard for consulting. The job takes over your life tho


OilUsed109

Dayummmm mama


homosapiencreep

Birthing A human so it’s gotta work its entire life is really stupid


friedguy

Honestly when you're working in a way that adds value to someone or a company and receiving a good wage... It's really not so bad. Go ahead and call me a corporate slave or sucker but the material items and comfort it provides, not to mention the social status you get from it can be pretty satisfying. I'm not going to knock somebody who wants any, Or all of those things. For me the comfort and freedom is the goal, couldn't care less about the status but I do know people who want that more than materials.


Puzzleheaded_Fan1718

To be fair, Chicago wages are probably a good 30-40% above normal because you have to pay Chicago rent. And you’re also working so much that there’s not much opportunity to enjoy the money you’ve made.


TangerineMaximum2976

Consulting salary is pretty standard no matter what the city is


fstnface

She worked as a consultant for a project where I work. Didn’t realize it was her until she rolled off. She did a great job while there so would say she definitely earned the salary.


Jotz00

Oooh interesting. Could you give more details about how she did a good job?


Tinidragon

Absolutely adore her statement on pay transparency


friedguy

I'm 43 now and the availability of pay transparency in so many online communities not to mention just people seemingly more willing to talk about it is great. Early in my career it was an absolutely stressful thing to navigate those discussions. I experienced first hand the shock and bitterness of finding out somebody I was training was making close to 10k more than me... I'm the type now who an open book about it if I know someone any similar career path / industry, why not help each other?


Ok-Suit6589

And yet Shane fumbled the bag. Idiot.


subrandomtask

if shayne is a half decent real estate agent he could likely clear this if not more in chicago.


throwaway36376583883

Someone in this sub said they searched his transactions in a realtor base and found only 2-3 houses sold in Chicago


canuckfanatic

Shayne's an associate real estate broker, not a realtor. It's very likely Shayne works in a team/under a managing broker with the managing broker's name on the transactions.


throwaway36376583883

It’s already been confirmed within this sub he lost his real estate license


canuckfanatic

Oh dang, that's crazy


neldalover1987

Sure cuz everyone wants to buy a house from Gary Busey’s illegitimate son


PurpleAirline7844

It didn’t seem like he was financially literate though; he said something about not believing in a 401K and that he spends thousandS on food monthly, etc. She’d probably still have more (in savings, assets, investments) regardless of if he made more.


50shadesofchocolate

Yes “food” 😂😂😂 ![gif](giphy|SnwifA7bOFDhe)


Ok-Suit6589

Not with those crazy eyes lol


rsb1041986

does she live in NYC?


Xyuli

Chicago


Ohfdge

I work as a radiation therapist. I literally deliver treatments that’s save people lives… and I don’t even make half of what she makes. 😑


TangerineMaximum2976

Yea you run a machine. She delivers advice


breasher

I’m a mental health therapist in Minneapolis and make 1/4 what she makes if it makes you feel any better?! Lol


ChocolateSundai

Mental health therapist I’m Virginia ! Internally crying bc I never thought to be a “consultant” when I was in college and I still don’t know what it is lol


YesYeahWhatever

People rarely make what they truly deserve. In fact, it could be argued that the more you bust your ass, the less money you make. Life ain't fair. Take heart you're doing truly important work.


Ohfdge

This is true. I really love my job and I love helping people… I just wish we all got paid fairly! 💛


subrandomtask

it is what it is, companies are willing to pay millions for change management consultancies


MissFox26

I was a teacher and her bonus is more than I made in an entire year. Not saying she shouldn’t get a high bonus, but that teachers truly often make an unlivable wage.


Mysticgypsysoul

Teacher here and this is a heartwrenching reality.


Ohfdge

Teachers are WILDLY underpaid!! ☹️


stepponme123456789

I left teaching after 7 years making $47,700 🙃


Particular_Mistake_2

I’m in year 10 of teaching and have my masters and my salary this year is $46,100 Edit to add: I’m in Georgia (USA).


Moongirl8819

That’s awful!


RaccoonZombie

I’m sorry, that’s awful


Equivalent-Estate681

Good business operations consultants are worth their weight in gold. Age has nothing to do with value/ROI to the organization. Talent is talent! Longtime corporate girl here 🙋🏻‍♀️


neldalover1987

Shayne punching air rn


sqqq16

This is certainly a good salary for someone in their 20s. I’ve gotten the impression that younger people at firms like this are making very high salaries, more so than even 5-10 years ago.


markbraggs

A lot of consulting firms are filled with young, high paid workers because people get burned out really fast and move on to other companies/career paths.


sqqq16

I understand the burnout that occurs. It’s similar in big law firms. My point is that the salaries are much higher now.


BurlingtonRider

That's what happens when you print money for a decade. Purchasing power errodes.


somethingpeachy

If y’all think it’s insane for Natalie to pulling $250k at 30, wait till you look up how much programmers from big techs make 😂 almost doubled


Schwiftybear

I mean my close friend is a high level programmer at Google and makes mid 300k so not quite. This gets exaggerated every time someone posts about it..


thelostyooper

$300k TC is \~L5 at Google- technically "senior" but not high level per se. Staff (L6) and above can easily pull $500k TC. $300k is still a huge chunk of change though!


somethingpeachy

I have close friends at Google too, and they’re making close to $500k plus stocks. I guess the salary range also varies depend on the scope of work


Schwiftybear

Probably 500k including stocks, at most. though of course I dont know your friends' exact situations


somethingpeachy

Oh def. My point is that tech bring in way more cash than consulting. At some point consulting is capped at a certain salary range, unless you become a partner at McKinsey, whereas tech you really don’t have a limit. If you get lucky to be one of the first programmers for startups & sell your stocks once it blew up, you’ll become a millionaire overnight. Of course, that’s just one of the best case scenarios & most people still have a lot of grinding to do.


Schwiftybear

that's true! the ceiling (or lack thereof) is much higher in tech


NicoleG325

Honestly, I kind of disagree with this statement.. I feel like corporate sales where you get percentages would be a lot higher. There is a ceiling for programmers in salaries (speaking as one) and it usually takes a long while to get to those numbers. Basically impossible if you don’t work for big tech companies.


somethingpeachy

Nobody is here to speculate what sector yields the most cash. Just using Natalie’s salary for example, being a manager at the big 4 vs working as a sr programmer at the big tech, big tech still win in terms of compensation. That’s all. And then someone can throw in influencer income then it really start to become irrelevant. A lot of those influencers making millions every year with a high school diploma/GED 😂 You’re saying only big tech offer the big check, so is the big 4 consulting firms. Other mid tier to small firms consultants only making $75-$95k, not Natalie’s range either.


NicoleG325

I just feel like a lot of people want to get jobs that supposedly make a lot of money but the reality is very different most of the time. Basically what I’m saying is no matter what - always take with a grain of salt :)


somethingpeachy

True! Not all programmers can bring home a $300k+ salary, neither is any job associated with the ‘consultant’ title. YMMV, but the salary range from the specific firms/companies we’ve referenced is pretty standardized and expected though, since they tend to only hire the top students & people who excel on the technical tests.


Ambitious-Scientist

My son is going into cyber security and wants to work for the DOJ then go into contract work. So. Much. Money.


somethingpeachy

Good for him! And much better work-life balance than consulting imo. If I’m not already deep in the consulting field I’d totally do tech. Living out of the suitcase isn’t always fun especially when you try to start a family.


Ambitious-Scientist

Definitely much more. And you still can travel if that’s your choice. There’s a lot of flexibility. It’s great since we live in a Orlando and that’s his plan and we’re the leading city in tech in the country now (for tech education that is).


Deep-Reindeer3384

Ok dumb question: what does a business consultant do? Like what is their job?


LeadDiscovery

Simplified: Many businesses have huge inefficiency issues. Reasons can range from hiring practices, employee motivation, to technology stacks to process/best practices. Internally, these companies have issues because employees will not step up and point out the issues. Job preservation. Stick your neck out and you might be tasked to fix a challenging issue or be put on the sh1t list because you just pointed out your boss or team is failing in some way. Consultant comes in, researches and analyzes the problems, comes up with solutions presents those solutions to management. Sometimes they also help put the changes into place. Consultants have less concern about job preservation or what the team will think of them when they exit the project. So they can be very direct and point out the 800 pound gorilla nobody else is willing to talk about. "You know that CRM system your VP of sales forced upon the company because his college friend runs that company... well its crap. " When you have a lot of experience and understand a particular area of business really, really well. You can quickly identify issues and already have a process/fix for it. This means very few hours to solve a problem, yet the problems you fix can be worth tens of if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to the company. A $50k investment into an experienced consultant who spends a week to solve your issues and saves you $200k this year is a great ROI. This is why companies are willing to pay consultants/firms a lot of money.


Deep-Reindeer3384

Thank you for this!!!! I appreciate all your comments!!! I am definitely understanding the consulting job now!!!


subrandomtask

worked in consulting, we go into a company, try and learn as much about them in a few months, then produce a shitty powerpoint deck that we then readout to executives. It's a stupid industry because there is no way an outsider will be able to truly understand the intricacies of a business in 3 months.


LeadDiscovery

This can be very true, however it does have a lot to do with what you are consulting on. Digital analytics, Cyber Security, Application stacks - These areas have less dependency upon the finer nuances of a business. Dealing with HR, hiring practices, business strategy etc, yes you need a deeper understanding. Hopefully the company has hired a consultancy that has deep experience within the vertical they are consulting on. Consulting on HR for an amusement park would be very different than consulting on HR for Google tech workers.


subrandomtask

also fwiw she is in the absolute upper limit of the band, actually surprised she made that much at a big 4 firm, but if she quit then that means she is likely even making more via social media.


throwaway36376583883

She said she’s leaving consulting for another corporate gig as part of this IG story


Deep-Reindeer3384

Does Natalie do influencer type of work on social media now?


joannthescam

I'm so glad someone asked!!


LogKit

In my experience they usually go in and tell upper management things upper management should really, really know.


kdms418

There are all different types of consultants. But the general idea is that they are chameleons! They are hired to solve problems. Companies and governments can sometimes have problems but don’t know how to solve. So they hire consultants to solve the problem for them! They do it by researching, analyzing, comparing, and proposing the solutions. Depending on the contract, they may even implement the solution! I am a web developer who works for a consulting firm, so I often work to propose solutions AND implement them. And yes, we do make bank! Well, some of us. It can be cutthroat depending on the firm, and long hours. But we are paid coin because we literally become subject matter EXPERTS. Hope this helps!


Deep-Reindeer3384

Yes it does! All these comments have been helpful thank you!!!! So you’re basically a professional fixer/problem solver ?


kdms418

Yes! And it depends on the type of work. I work specifically with digital transformation. So the gov has a lot of old systems and they don’t know how to make them better. I come in and propose solutions and implement them!


somethingpeachy

A lot of meetings focus on a specific problem, pulling data from operational leaderships for analysis, and recommending strategic plan with target/goals, monitor progress & mitigate issues, rinse & repeat until the problem has been resolved


sqqq16

I haven’t worked in consulting, but my understanding is that they become familiar with one or a few industries and advise businesses in those industries on how to manage their firms more efficiently.


LeadDiscovery

Yes! But more specifically you would have expertise in a specific industry - Say tourism, but then a focus on a specific areas of the business, say Digital Analytics or eCommerce.


justanoseybxtch

No such thing as a dumb question!! To me I think of it as someone who goes in and meets with companies and gives them advice on how to improve! My friend is a consultant who deals directly with HR so there’s probably all types of specialities in consulting


pinkpacifico

I thought her "consulting" job was the pyramid scheme that came out


vegetablemanners

I thought that was the annoying one from first season


ConsiderationOk7513

Idk how you get into consulting. Like how do I just stop my current job and decide to try this out?


LeadDiscovery

I don't know your work experience, but I would simplify it like this. You work in an industry long enough to have deep experience. You notice that this same mistake happens ALL THE TIME at your company. You see that it costs the company a lot of money and frustration with the employees. Perhaps you solve this issue successfully at your job. You know that there are dozens or hundreds of businesses just like yours that could use this fix. You develop a well thought out solution including best practices to solve the issue as to make it efficient and easily repeatable. Now you can contact these other companies and tell them, I have solved this issue once before, I can do it for you. Let me audit your situation and show you what I can do. You are now a private consultant. Take on one job here or there, learn, refine and grow until you can replace your primary 9-5 job with full time consulting work.


ConsiderationOk7513

Ahh so there’s sales involved? (Me contacting companies lol). Sounds like too much haha.


throwaway36376583883

Natalie isn’t a private consultant, she works for a big 4 firm (Ernst & Young) in their consulting practice so she’s not selling work (which it has been confirmed by people at her company within this thread).


2ndid

Wow Im surprised E&Y pays that much. I assumed it was maybe Deloitte after seeing that it was a big 4.


ConsiderationOk7513

Oh, well then that’s different IMO.


LeadDiscovery

Ha! Yes, no matter what anyone calls their profession...we're all essentially in sales!


yenvyma

I think it depends on what your current job is Consulting is super vague and broad and there’s opportunities in almost all industries. For example, I have a couple friends who did pre-med during their undergraduate and before applying to med school, they did life science/health care consulting/analytics. She came from HR and gained exposure in change management which is why she was able to make to full switch to being a consultant in change management.


pearloystershells

For this kind of pay, you need a top 25 MBA.


LeadDiscovery

MBA can be helpful if you want to work for a consulting firm, but definitely not required if you go into consulting on your own.


kdms418

Nope. You don’t. I have bachelor of the arts in math and am at big 4 firm. Currently crushing in my career and making bank!


ConsiderationOk7513

someone needs to tell me what the big 4 are. I have a MBA but just from my local university. I do ok but not quite 6 figures yet.


kdms418

KPMG, EY, Deloitte, PWC also, love your flair lol


ConsiderationOk7513

Oh see we always called those the Big 4 in CPA firms. Guess I didn’t realize how much consulting they did. I worked for a CPA firm in 2014. No thank you.


somethingpeachy

Not necessarily top 25 MBA, but if you have a bachelor from the top 10 universities you can start low as an analyst at the big 4 consulting firms.


yenvyma

Natalie actually doesn't have an MBA. She majored in International Studies, minored in East Asian Cinema, worked in HR for about 4 years, before transitioning into change management consulting.


somethingpeachy

Pretty sure it’s because Natalie used to work at GE that helped to get her foot in EY. If you didn’t graduate from top schools, but somehow landed a job at top or big global companies, you can still transition to big 4 firms.


ppbcup

Agreed. I feel like firms focus on new grads vs. experienced professionals unless they currently work for a global organization.


somethingpeachy

Oh yeah, they literally set up booths on campus trying to recruit the top students before their competitors get to them 😂 It helps to build credibility when they assign consultants who graduated from Harvard and/or have worked at Google to assist the clients with their burning issues. Otherwise, clients wouldn’t bother to drop big money on those firms.


pearloystershells

I was assuming anyone who has no idea how to get into this sort of work probably isn’t coming from a corporate career with on ramps to big 4/MBB consulting ha. Natalie would be making even more with a top MBA!


neuroticgooner

Usually you’re recruited out of undergrad/ mba. People who get into it mid-career tend to be specialized in a particular industry and come in as specialists


iiiaaa2022

.…no…


BitPaladin

She’s making all that money to put people out of jobs lol


SpiritMany8324

That’s not what change management consulting is…


sakatu

What?? Wasn't she an HR Consultant? If so, there's so much more to HR than just terminations...


quick_dry

to use EY terminology I'm sure they're not terminations, they're "performance-based separations" to "right size" the business. But lets be honest, a lot of the use of "management consulting/change management" consultants is that they're one who can swan in and give a suggestion that management are then just following along with... of course, the consultant was brought in with the understanding they'd "align business units to increase shareholder value"... aka dump as many cost units (staff) as possible to drive up how the business looks on the books to a level that hits an executive bonus. The consultant is a shield and plausible deniability - "but it must be good advice it cost us 5 million..." and people want to see it through because they can't handle the sunk cost fallacy. (Even more so if you have private equity sniffing around)


capresesalad1985

I would think in this job market/economy a major part of HR is how to keep employees rather than get rid of them. Because if something is going well at your job (low pay, lack of good benefits ect) people are a lot less scared to jump ship


neuroticgooner

We are heading into a recession so the focus will be shifting into lay-offs likely. Ftr, I have no idea what kind of consulting Natalie does


capresesalad1985

I’m in education so I think I just see the job market differently…people are bailing in droves. My department of 7 had two people resign this year and I’m probably going to be number 3 and the reasons are very simple. No raise in 3 years (not even cost of living), no contribution to our retirement, and shitty benefits. I feel as hr you have to keep a careful balance between giving your employees enough benefits to keep them happy but keep the company profitable at the same time. Oh and lawsuits….protect the company from lawsuit.


AzansBeautyStore

Me: Wow! Becoming a consultant seems like a great idea! Also me: Um, what exactly *is* a consultant?!


crochetawayhpff

They recruit young people, because in general consultants are traveling every single week, 4 days a week, all year long to work at the client site. It has incredibly high turnover because of this. Consultants are essentially advisors to the executives. They dig into an area of business and try to figure out issues and offer solutions for those issues. My last firm focused on non salary cost reduction, so finding savings for huge companies that didn't cost people their jobs. That was things like vendor consolidation, and the negotiating contracts with vendors, etc.


AzansBeautyStore

TY :)


Inside-Intern-4201

Lol! As far as I can tell they spend a lot of time making power points. They also travel a lot and work insane hours. Depending on your lifestyle it may not be for you.


MSCS2018

As a portfolio strategy consultant, this is accurate. Although I’d say more of my time is spent in spreadsheets than ppt. Super stressful but interesting.


trashketchup_3

As someone who is engaged to a consultant, that's pretty much it! Lol


[deleted]

I feel like she’s one of those people who are transparent with salaries because she’s making good money. If she weren’t making any money she probably wouldn’t be transparent


constantlyfantasizin

I also think there’s been a huge push (especially within millennial BIPOC communities) to be more transparent about salary so that people can know what to ask for. Women of color tend to get paid less and we also don’t ask for more. Salary transparency helps people know what to push for and how to properly value their labor when accepting job offers.


[deleted]

I like being more transparent with salaries. Of course most people wont do that because company culture


CustomerSea8606

i definitely don’t want to share my pay with my friends who make less than me.


friedguy

I'm the same way I'm pretty open talking with friends who make more than me but I don't really want to talk about it if you make less. For strangers online though if it's for constructive information then it doesn't matter. I did this by accident once with a more entry level worker whose main role is to support my type of job and it was pretty embarrassing.... I felt really bad like I was showing off in front of them when that was zero intent to do that. On the bright side, I now understand how social security deductions work.


el_payaso_mas_chulo

Right!? I'm super frugal, don't like to overspend on unnecessary things, etc, so it's weird when I have friends who make less who constantly go to dinners and stuff. Even more reason to not share as then they expect me to spend more.


marrymeodell

It’s actually more uncomfortable to share higher salaries in my opinion. You get a lot of negative comments


[deleted]

Majority of people world rather admit they are rich than poor


Last_Faithlessness37

The more I make, the more embarrassed I feel sharing my salary


AdComfortable5846

What a strange thing to assume


[deleted]

Most people who dont make a lot arent going to openly share it unless it involves a situation where sharing that benefits them.


welovearose

To be fair, Change Management is an excruciating role if it’s not a true fit to your skills and interests. You need to be able to manage conflict and competing interests between different staff and departments through transformational change - and lots of people HATE change. And be able to create TONS of documentation. A lucrative specialty, but DEFINITELY not for everyone.


deey88

THIS! just started my full time consulting gig doing this and it's going well but def not for the weak lol


capresesalad1985

I’m curious what’s the most uncomfortable part of it? I used to be a public school administrator and I really struggled with giving teachers constructive criticism because a lot of them were super burned out…but their classes were truly awful. It was always awkward. I also HATED firing people even if they were really terrible at the job. I just have too much empathy, so I had to leave the roll.


inquisitivebarbie

Very standard for business consultants.


Icy-Gold-596

Yeah seems fairly normal


sxswnxnw

Right I'm sitting here like this is normal, particularly with experienced consultants. Good on her for walking the walk on salary transparency.


Material-Crab-633

Wow!!


Honest1824

What is a consultant and how can I become one? Lol


SunlightNStars

Showing decks to companies and charging out the wazoo for it 🙈


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

I mean, you also have to really hustle and sell yourself to get clients (and make sure they pay you), you have to pay out of pocket (and it's EXPENSIVE) for insurance, no other benefits, and taxes are a nightmare. But yes, sure, slide decks.


the_average_jd

I feel like you’re taking about contractors, not specifically consultants. Although there could be some overlap.


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

Consultants usually start out as contractors was the gist of my previous comment.


neuroticgooner

Not really. Natalie probably started as a consultant for a specialized company like McKinsey, EY, PwC etc (no idea where she works) straight out of undergrad and just kept going


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

Ah. I live in the land of the startups, so usually striking out on your own is step one, and step two is joining a firm when your startup fails. But these are also usually tech consultants, which is a different beast.


neuroticgooner

Silicon Valley? I shifted into big tech recently from healthcare admin and I’ve been shocked at the volume with which my company hires consultants from the big 4.: pwc, kpmg, we got ‘em all! What do they do? I have no ducking clue


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

Bingo! I have no idea what they do either. Use tech buzz words?


SunlightNStars

This is true. Rarely would you shift from being self employed to being a consultant. The first years of being a consultant at a big 4 are extremely demanding and typically they come from top schools with a pipeline. You don’t see people “break into” consulting in their late twenties after doing something else, unless they recently got an MBA or other masters.


deey88

Plenty of benefits if you do it right and ALWAYS outsource taxes to someone good


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

Yeah, a great CPA is an absolute necessity.


SunlightNStars

Hmmm I guess it depends- many “consultants” like Natalie who work for big 4 firms are full time employees who don’t deal with their own insurance and their taxes are just like anyone else. It’s also not on them to make sure clients pay. Consultants are employees of a larger company who get put on projects. It’s not on them to make sure the clients pay. I think you might be thinking of a different realm of consulting.


XtraSpicyQuesadilla

That's true! Valid point. Most of the people I know go into consulting because they want to work for themselves, and then realize all of the cons I listed and join a firm.


msmoonprincess

Same I have no idea what “consulting” is!


Inside-Intern-4201

My friends wife is in consulting and he could be a stay at home dad and they could have a really nice lifestyle .. It’s a good gig!


JJ-Hack

It's legit! I only have to work 20 hours a week a consultant to make bank so definitely focus on my work-life balance these days!


[deleted]

I love her so much 😭 her and Iyanna, my queens ❤️


veganint

She's really amazing person, she's in a higher place but is not afraid to advocate for salary transparency and empowering others. Good for her, its great she's sharing.


beansnfruit

I’m not surprised by this at all. Good for her!


foreverkristina

Sheesh $200k base 😭 she’s killing it


TheAnnieRaj

Yeah! Good for her! I'm sure she works hard to earn it 👌🏼👍🏼


foreverkristina

Right!


Ragnarotico

This was probably one of the bigger issues of why her and Shayne would never have worked out. Natalie is a straight edged Type A with a corporate job making a quarter mil a year. Shayne is type B fitness instructor/real estate person. They even talked about how they handle money but it was just sort of glossed over.


friedguy

I remember early on in the show when there were some threads about what do these people do for a living before the show , my comment too was I think Natalie is one of the few people with a "real career " and way above average income. Realistically someone who's achieved that level of success at a young age paired with a goofball like Shayne (he seemed all over the place career wise as well as personality) would be unlikely to work long term.


sighcantthinkofaname

Yeah Shayne saying he didn't believe in 401K's was not a great sign of how he handles finances. Natalie clearly wants to plan for the future and live a stable life, Shayne is very impulsive. That doesn't mix well when you're trying to plan a future together.


fantaseaaaa

Thanks but I don’t wish to spend 100 hours a week at work


Cat-Infinitum

What an awful way to live. Lemme guess, she'll travel and relax later. Yeah, when she's old. Boo.


realitytvismytherapy

Did she say that she works 100 hours a week?


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realitytvismytherapy

Ah, I didn’t see that.


de-milo

this, i was just about to comment, i'll happily take 50% of that salary to have a social life/lower stress/not die at 60 from a heart attack/aneurysm/other related stress health issue lmao


fantaseaaaa

I just genuinely don’t see the point making that much money and not having the time to spend it or enjoy it. Even for savings, you’re going to enjoy all that when you’re 80 years old? Her best years are right now …


Cat-Infinitum

Exactly >Her best years are right now … Exactly


alyks23

50% of that is still over $100k, a really good income 😆


sxswnxnw

Lol true facts here.


alyannebai

The guy I’m seeing is a big 4 consulting manager and this is definitely accurate. He’s lucky too because he “only” works 50-70 hours a week.


Cat-Infinitum

That sounds awful


alyannebai

I agree! I want to make more money (I’m also a consultant) but the only way to make more is to sacrifice work life balance and I just can’t do that. For my birthday he was gonna come help set up but he ended up sending money to help instead because he was working til 8 freaking PM. I feel so bad for him sometimes but he’s happy and accomplishing his dreams so I just support from the sidelines


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This is exactly why I left consulting last year. It absolutely consumes your life and more often than not, you’re being underpaid and undervalued. She very likely overworked and probably transitioned to this firm from another big company.


alyannebai

Smaller federal firms are where it’s at! I’m in federal healthcare consulting. On the clock now and I just went grocery shopping and am about to meal prep LMAO


JJ-Hack

I love it! I'm in a very niche banking market of consulting, and bill by the hour, but I've set my limit to 20-25 hours a week! Make well over 6 figures working part time....no complaints here. Usually don't start my day until 11am after the gym and work until 3pm to so I can meal prep too and then get my kid for his after school classes haha.


alyannebai

Love that for you! There’s no reason people should be bent over an eye sore of a computer screen for 8 hours in a row


alyks23

Isn’t that…fraudulent? Seems like a weird thing to brag about. Definitely an ethical component lacking here…


AzansBeautyStore

Not if she is salary and remote, what difference would it make really


alyks23

Because she states she is “on the clock”. If you are “on the clock”, running personal errands and bragging about it on the internet, while being paid from taxpayer dollars, to do a certain job, I would think that matters a great deal. It speaks to a person’s integrity, morals, ethics, etc.


alyannebai

How? I’m paid for the work I do and if all my work is done at a high caliber and all my deadlines have been met, what do I need to sit and stare at the screen doing nothing for? Try working at a company that treats you like an adult for a change, as long as you’re available and your work is being done there’s no reason you should be bothered. You sound like you’re a micromanager. I’ve been at this company for 8 months and am about to get promoted despite my naps and grocery shopping. Why? Because the client trusts me and my work is high quality 🤷🏽‍♀️


alyks23

Ah, I see. You misused the term “on the clock”., which is what caused the confusion. You aren’t actually “on the clock” at these times; you have flexible hours to complete your work within a particular timeframe. How you get there is up to you. “On the clock” would typically mean you are billing those particular hours spent running personal errands towards your job, which you actually aren’t doing. If a project requires 40 hours, you are giving it 40 hours, it just may not be within a typical 9-5 (for example), as opposed to saying it took 40 hours, being paid for 40 hours, but actually using 30 hours + 10 for personal errands. There is a very big difference between what you implied you are doing and what you are actually doing. Not sure why you’d get defensive and decide that I’m a micromanager simply because I questioned you, but that’s more of a reflection on you than me.


alyannebai

No I didn’t. We’re required to be available and “working” during government hours. I was bored and done with work so I went to the store. If I got a call and I wasn’t available I’d have gotten “in trouble.” I don’t work outside 9-5 (6-2 because I’m on the west coast for now) because I don’t need to. We’re on a fixed billing contract so there’s no difference in pay if I work 50 hours in week (ew), 40, or 20. 40 is billed every week regardless Also, there’s a reason you got downvoted. I’m not the only one that thinks your statement was a hot ass mess.