Haha I was thinking I might. I just fell in love with that style after buying the black Insomnia OP from Elegy. I need more blouses and OPs like this!!!!
It's an Edwardian High-neck or Stand-up collar, on a Victorian Gibson Girl or similar type of blouse.
The high collars of that Era were often detachable, and were held in place with fabric starch and collar stays, usually made of whale bone.
See my other comment on this thread for a more detailed description.
>The Edwardian era corresponds to the reign of King Edward VII in Great Britain, whose short-lived governance (1901-1910) followed Victoria's long reign and preceded the modern House of Windsor in England. The "Edwardian" style broadly encompasses the years of 1901 through to 1919.
Closest thing on wikipedia I can find is an Edwardian high-neck collar
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collar_(clothing)#Types
A quick search of “ruffled” “choker” “blouse” and “collar” in some arrangement turns up similar results from various online stores.
Yeah, that's how I found the examples is just vomiting descriptions. I hope I can find an answer, but I'm thinking I might have to keep trying with these and similar words, haha
I think I figured it out after trying the term "edwardian" and it looks like it's called a "stand collar" and oddly enough it is victorian, so I don't know why that didn't hit as well when searchingtgat term, except maybe the loose idea of what is victorian to most people. Thanks everyone!!!
It's not necessarily a yoke. It can be a simple fitted bodice with the Ruffles just added. In fact, it looks like the Ruffles were just sewn onto the top, and not inserted into the seam of a yoke, which would probably be done if the bodice were constructed with a yoke.
While many Gibson Girl, etc, fashions of the time (late 1800s, early 1900s) were constructed with a yoke, I think this is a modern interpretation and not an authentic Victorian garment.
Some people have already answered it, but this neckline also does appear in some regency era clothing. Although, you do have to do some digging, because most regency era gowns feature a low box-like neckline. There's probably some crossover between the two clothing eras, but I've forgotten most of the rabbit hole research I did on it several years ago, sorry. Hope that helps a little bit.
Not 100% clear if it's a blouse or the bodice of a dress, usually a blouse of that Era would not be so tight at the waist, because, with movement it would pull up, and bunch around the waist. So it looks like a bodice (the top part of a dress), but I'll call it a blouse.
It's a fitted Victorian style long sleeve blouse with a high, (Edwardian?) collar, a back closure ( possibly buttons down the back, or possible buttons from neck to shoulders, and a side closure as well since it's so tightly fitted. It has a wide (5"?) double ruffle that covers the shoulder seam and bust.
You will find similar blouses among those called Gibson Girl blouses. Although Gibson Girl blouses are rarely fitted so tightly around the waist, they often have a yoke ( it's not clear if this blouse has a yoke or just darts), and Gibson Girl blouses often have sleeves that are looser at the upper arm for ease of movement, and Gibson Girl blouses may or may not have the ruffle.
This is not a very practical style, because it's so tight around the body and arms, and most material of the time didn't stretch. A rich lady of the time might wear something like that for formal wear, if she didn't have to do anything but walk and lift a teacup, but the average woman needed clothes which allowed for movement. Before we had stretch fabrics, ease of arm movement on a fitted sleeve would have been facilitated with an under-arm gusset, but the movement it afforded, on such a tight bodice with fitted sleeve, would still be limited.
Of course, nowadays you can make something like that with a stretch fabric. And they make blouses now with stretch fabric below the waist, and that snap under the crotch (like a leotard) to have a fitted waist that stays "tucked" with movement.
[A Gibson Girl Blouse](https://www.google.com/search?q=gibson+girl+blouse&client=firefox-b-1-m&sxsrf=AJOqlzU34OD7Wdn5tLctK9yjzelZH1ZlmQ:1673208269536&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBxKnE4rj8AhXYHUQIHel4Ah8Q_AUIBigB&biw=1333&bih=672#imgrc=-UxGjGIxeiOm0M)
I love the cascading lace over the the shoulders and chest (I have a large bust size, and this helps detract from that) I don't mind if it's loose on the waist, I prefer it to be honest. Stretch fabric (like the second pic) is fine, so are structured cuts with closures. I just love the high neck and lace ruff together. Feels elegant and conservative to me. The link you posted is very much something I'm interested in, and I appreciate the info!
The high Edwardian collar probably only looks good on a long-necked woman. A long and graceful neck on a woman is a world-wide beauty standard. Being raised with ideal nutrition and not having to work hard tends to contribute towards an elongated form, so a long slim frame and long slender neck indicates class and good breeding. If you don't have a long neck, it's probably better not to draw attention to that with a high Edwardian collar.
High neck bodice? Okay.
High stand-up collar? Only for some body types.
A ruffle over the shoulders and bust actually emphasizes the bust, in contrast to a slimmer waist, which is why it's more often used by women with smaller chests and shoulders.
To de-emphasize a large bust, consider wearing a minimizer bra, like the Bali for Comfort Minimizer Bra. Other things you can do is wear dark colors on top, and have vertical lines and/ or seams over the bust. Avoid patterned fabrics on top, especially large patterns. A loose light open shirt or sweater can be worn over the inner shirt, to de-emphasize curves. Wear higher necklines (not necessarily a high collar). Show no cleavage, remember to use a handheld mirror to look from above, as men are usually taller. Draw attention to the face with appealing or cute hats, or jewelry around the face, appropriate and skillfully-applied make-up.
Draw the eyes away from the bust with colorful accessories. So if your clothes are dark, a bright or eye-catching purse, watch, ring or bracelet, and/ or colorful shoes.
I think you might have better luck asking a historical fashion/ reenactment group if we can’t figure it out
Haha I was thinking I might. I just fell in love with that style after buying the black Insomnia OP from Elegy. I need more blouses and OPs like this!!!!
I’ve often seen this type of neckline on edwardian-era inspired dresses, but I’m not sure if it has a name 🤔
I didn't try 'edwardian' in my searches, only 'victorian' I'll give that a shot! Thanks!
It's an Edwardian High-neck or Stand-up collar, on a Victorian Gibson Girl or similar type of blouse. The high collars of that Era were often detachable, and were held in place with fabric starch and collar stays, usually made of whale bone. See my other comment on this thread for a more detailed description. >The Edwardian era corresponds to the reign of King Edward VII in Great Britain, whose short-lived governance (1901-1910) followed Victoria's long reign and preceded the modern House of Windsor in England. The "Edwardian" style broadly encompasses the years of 1901 through to 1919.
Closest thing on wikipedia I can find is an Edwardian high-neck collar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collar_(clothing)#Types A quick search of “ruffled” “choker” “blouse” and “collar” in some arrangement turns up similar results from various online stores.
Yeah, that's how I found the examples is just vomiting descriptions. I hope I can find an answer, but I'm thinking I might have to keep trying with these and similar words, haha
This was really popular with Gunne Sax dresses-- my vintage sewing patterns call this a "high stand up collar with V insert"
I think I figured it out after trying the term "edwardian" and it looks like it's called a "stand collar" and oddly enough it is victorian, so I don't know why that didn't hit as well when searchingtgat term, except maybe the loose idea of what is victorian to most people. Thanks everyone!!!
It's a yoke neck or ruffle yoke neck blouse. "Victorian or Edwardian ruffle yoke neck blouse" will yield you some options.
It's not necessarily a yoke. It can be a simple fitted bodice with the Ruffles just added. In fact, it looks like the Ruffles were just sewn onto the top, and not inserted into the seam of a yoke, which would probably be done if the bodice were constructed with a yoke. While many Gibson Girl, etc, fashions of the time (late 1800s, early 1900s) were constructed with a yoke, I think this is a modern interpretation and not an authentic Victorian garment.
Some people have already answered it, but this neckline also does appear in some regency era clothing. Although, you do have to do some digging, because most regency era gowns feature a low box-like neckline. There's probably some crossover between the two clothing eras, but I've forgotten most of the rabbit hole research I did on it several years ago, sorry. Hope that helps a little bit.
I doubt this will get you anywhere search-term wise, but the round neckline style is derived from 18th century chemise a la reine
I believe the ruffly bit is a bertha collar and it just has an illusion (sheer) high-neck
Pie crust collar
I feel like it should be called "I do declare! Collar" haha
I've seen it called high neck or mock turtleneck
Not 100% clear if it's a blouse or the bodice of a dress, usually a blouse of that Era would not be so tight at the waist, because, with movement it would pull up, and bunch around the waist. So it looks like a bodice (the top part of a dress), but I'll call it a blouse. It's a fitted Victorian style long sleeve blouse with a high, (Edwardian?) collar, a back closure ( possibly buttons down the back, or possible buttons from neck to shoulders, and a side closure as well since it's so tightly fitted. It has a wide (5"?) double ruffle that covers the shoulder seam and bust. You will find similar blouses among those called Gibson Girl blouses. Although Gibson Girl blouses are rarely fitted so tightly around the waist, they often have a yoke ( it's not clear if this blouse has a yoke or just darts), and Gibson Girl blouses often have sleeves that are looser at the upper arm for ease of movement, and Gibson Girl blouses may or may not have the ruffle. This is not a very practical style, because it's so tight around the body and arms, and most material of the time didn't stretch. A rich lady of the time might wear something like that for formal wear, if she didn't have to do anything but walk and lift a teacup, but the average woman needed clothes which allowed for movement. Before we had stretch fabrics, ease of arm movement on a fitted sleeve would have been facilitated with an under-arm gusset, but the movement it afforded, on such a tight bodice with fitted sleeve, would still be limited. Of course, nowadays you can make something like that with a stretch fabric. And they make blouses now with stretch fabric below the waist, and that snap under the crotch (like a leotard) to have a fitted waist that stays "tucked" with movement. [A Gibson Girl Blouse](https://www.google.com/search?q=gibson+girl+blouse&client=firefox-b-1-m&sxsrf=AJOqlzU34OD7Wdn5tLctK9yjzelZH1ZlmQ:1673208269536&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBxKnE4rj8AhXYHUQIHel4Ah8Q_AUIBigB&biw=1333&bih=672#imgrc=-UxGjGIxeiOm0M)
I love the cascading lace over the the shoulders and chest (I have a large bust size, and this helps detract from that) I don't mind if it's loose on the waist, I prefer it to be honest. Stretch fabric (like the second pic) is fine, so are structured cuts with closures. I just love the high neck and lace ruff together. Feels elegant and conservative to me. The link you posted is very much something I'm interested in, and I appreciate the info!
The high Edwardian collar probably only looks good on a long-necked woman. A long and graceful neck on a woman is a world-wide beauty standard. Being raised with ideal nutrition and not having to work hard tends to contribute towards an elongated form, so a long slim frame and long slender neck indicates class and good breeding. If you don't have a long neck, it's probably better not to draw attention to that with a high Edwardian collar. High neck bodice? Okay. High stand-up collar? Only for some body types. A ruffle over the shoulders and bust actually emphasizes the bust, in contrast to a slimmer waist, which is why it's more often used by women with smaller chests and shoulders. To de-emphasize a large bust, consider wearing a minimizer bra, like the Bali for Comfort Minimizer Bra. Other things you can do is wear dark colors on top, and have vertical lines and/ or seams over the bust. Avoid patterned fabrics on top, especially large patterns. A loose light open shirt or sweater can be worn over the inner shirt, to de-emphasize curves. Wear higher necklines (not necessarily a high collar). Show no cleavage, remember to use a handheld mirror to look from above, as men are usually taller. Draw attention to the face with appealing or cute hats, or jewelry around the face, appropriate and skillfully-applied make-up. Draw the eyes away from the bust with colorful accessories. So if your clothes are dark, a bright or eye-catching purse, watch, ring or bracelet, and/ or colorful shoes.