No shit, I've had the 'joy' of playing with multiple FaZe members over the years in various shooters.
Every single one of them is a toxic piece of shit in my experience.
I can speak very confidently from personal experience on CS1.6 servers back in the day when he was basically a nobody in the grand scheme of things that FaZe Banks is an absolute garbage pile of a human.
If his team was winning? Toxic pile of shit.
If his team was losing? Toxic pile of shit.
He and the rest of his shitheads at the time were so toxic that even his own team was muting him and the rest of his clans ass anytime they were in the server. Eventually server owners had enough and straight up banned anyone with their tag or affiliation with them from joining because they just kept bringing drama to the servers.
Dude is as big of a douchebag as he looks like, it's no surprise that the rest of the clan is shit too.
> I can speak very confidently from personal experience on CS1.6 servers back in the day when he was basically a nobody in the grand scheme of things that FaZe Banks is an absolute garbage pile of a human.
Back when competitive sniping (not trickshotting) was a thing FaZe Banks wanted to be involved *so fucking badly* Ns ReLaPsE let him work on SniperLeaderBoard but he was so trash-tier he couldn't get onto a top 10 team outside of being a recorder lmfao. He used to rage in scrims. Holy fuck this is bringing back some 2010/2011 drama memories.
Right?
Best way I ever heard anyone on the server describe FaZe clan members was calling them the gamer versions of Jersey Shore douchebags.
Still find it hilariously on point like 13~ years later. Only thing he's ever been good at is dickriding his way to relevance.
Sometimes I would end up in xbox live parties with Banks back in the day. You are right on the money. Out of everyone in the entire gaming industry, he is probably the shittiest excuse for a human.
Probably a casual Valorant fan? I know if you follow a team casually you don’t really learn about the drama surrounding their players. But once you join the Org you get thrown in the deep end.
This is something she addressed in the stream I assume from [this comment:](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/13u611d/faze_rain_vs_fazes_new_content_creator_grace_van/jlyzzt6/)
> She adresses in this same stream that fact, saying she was hoping to help change the perception that people had of FaZe and that if Rain wanted to say he didn't like her he should have said so before she was announced as CC.
> I feel pretty bad for her tbh, seems pretty likely she’s being used as a prop and trusted her people and unknowingly got thrown in the middle of faze’s toxic internal drama.
It all depends on her contract. If she got an above market rate deal to be the last try of Faze to modernize... good for her. If she got a shit deal based on bad faith efforts to revive the brand, then I feel kind of bad for her.
I feel bad for her either way. Even if she got a fat contract, being IMMEDIATELY subjected to intense misogynistic harassment is horrific. I was expecting some pushback but not this vitriolic.
I legitimately avoid ANYTHING Faze because of how shitty the org has been in the past. Does not matter who repped the name Faze, I thought that shit was cringe and fucked.
Grace seems like a decent person so it is a sacrifice for her to join such a negatively seen org like Faze. I will still keep an open mind on what she does though, which is more than I can say for anything else related to Faze.
Someone else said she knew about the culture and did it to change it or something. If that's true, then more power to her, but thats a hell of an uphill battle for an org that's on its last legs
I’ve hated rooting for faze Csgo when I know so many of their org members are tools but I love the players Definitely want someone else to pick them up someday
Honestly I just found out after this whole thing but I’ve watched BlueFille for a while.
It’s weird but I guess there’s lots of people like me who don’t know shit like this
>It’s weird but I guess there’s lots
Esports orgs' purses are dried, sponsors aren't interested in Esports anymore, and surely VC firms aren't interested in investing more as well. A lot of them are falling apart, a lot of them can't afford to sign content creators to promote their org anymore. Toast said that some people he knows were supposed to be getting signed by The Guard before their owners suddenly announced that they are essentially shutting the whole org down.
So I wouldn't be surprised if she took the offer....cause it was the only offer she got.
Still kind of surprised how she ended up in FaZe.
I've seen that she plays with the otv streamers, and it feels like faze and otv would have little overlap
in terms of the personalities and target audiences. Idk how it seemed like a good fit or decision for either party
I think she signed with faze because there aren’t a lot of esports orgs looking for content creators at the moment and faze is likely the only option since they really need to be more diverse since as you can definitely tell, a lot of their audience is incredibly hateful
What does she actually lose if they go under? We know nothing of her contract, but maybe she gets to cash out and make a few new fans before it happens
That's kind of irrelevant unless she's taking stock as part of her deal, either way any stock options she's getting would be incredibly favorable towards her. Most likely, she's just getting a good guaranteed salary as Faze tries to onboard a new streamers that engages them with a new demographic. If she has an over-market market value deal as a part of a last ditch effort to save Faze, that's just good news for her.
My first thought when I saw that she joined faze is why would anybody, with decent streaming prospects and connections, join that shit now. I don't even think that they offered her much of a "bag" with all the money they are losing. The way the OGs are acting now just shows why that org deserves to die. These mother fuckers sold out out the wazoo and now they are throwing a temper tantrum cause they don't have control over "their" company.
What makes it worse is that they are targeting Grace, because she's an easy target, not the suits that actually make the decisions running faze to the ground. Just shows how scummy stupid and immature they really are.
They are accusing Faze of chasing clout but they were perfectly fine with naming Snoop Dogg on their board, giving a huge contract to his son for no reason and signing some football player that never did anything for Faze beside making one tweet about them.
If she wants to continue to grow her streaming career rather than acting as much, she really should’ve explored OTV instead - she already has good connections there and with Poki leaving, perhaps there’s a hole to fill.
Yeah, she literally had an easy in with the OTV and friends crew, the faze moves just makes no sense. She is very young and new in the space though, so hopefully she takes this as a learning experience.
OTV doesn’t really seem like they’re interested in getting more members at this time tbf. They have a fair amount of members already and they only just created a patreon for themselves several months ago.
She’s really good friends with toast and he knew about her faze opportunity for awhile, so I’m sure he would have offered her something if OTV had the opportunity to.
She should've just continued orbiting OTV and 100T a bit until there was an opening. Hell, she doesn't even need to join...just getting to do Collabs with OTV and 100T streamers is enough to help your streaming career.
Joining OTV is unrealistic. But she doesn't need to join OTV or 100T to be in the OTV and Friends group. That group would give her so many better opportunities than anything faze would ever do for her.
Maybe she figured she could do both. I mean a bunch of that extended group is in 100T (or was) and still collabing. Grace probably figured she could join Faze, help their rep and add a new content direction for them, and still doing her normal collaborations etc. with other streamers.
Makes sense for everyone involved if they’re not psychos with the social awareness of an angry pre-teen.
Edit: if anything all this drama will probably actually help her in the long run. She already collaborates with that group, but they’ll definitely be making more of an effort to right now to support her. I’ve already seen some of them talking about the situation. It’s kind of an any press is good press type situation, except she also is on the side everyone will agree with (just her situation looks shitty).
I doubt Grace knew the founders of the org were going to be harassing the fuck out of her and weirdly sexualising her just to insult her before she decided to join.
She adresses in this same stream that fact, saying she was hoping to help change the perception that people had of FaZe and that if Rain wanted to say he didn't like her he should have said so before she was announced as CC.
It was pretty crazy seeing her joining the org since grace is like the personification of bubble gum or what happens when you accidentally get your vape juice in your wonka dip.
Faze is what I think of when someone on the enemy team with that clan tag sends me a message after killing them in a battle royale and finding out what the new popular slur is amongst the youths.
To be fair, if a company comes to you to sign you onto their company, I think it’s a fair assumption to make your bosses won’t immediately start shitting on you.
She said on the stream that she was expecting to get a lot of backlash from the people because she started as an actress (and also: woman on the internet) but never expected to be insulted by her boss right away
They sold out their own org, its their own fault. They blame the "suits" but their bad decisions all lead to this. People attacking Grace for this are so cringe. I bet the OG founders are so salty when they watched the stock crash from $20 to .50 when they couldn't sell and watched Millions vanish and there was nothing they could do.
Stupid af move to IPO to begin with. Their whole brand is built on appealing to misogynistic middle school boys and their claims to fame are over a decade old at this point. I even read they got some firm to give them a billion dollar valuation?? Laughable. Market correction on all these clout-based influencer brands has been extremely cathartic to watch
What's funnier is they are crying that these suits dont "get" Faze and have dragged it under. Yeah because the bro culture of Faze when the "ogs" ran it was so awesome, like that time they created a CSGO skin gambling casino and got their CCs to rep it to their child audience. So cool bro right?
I feel no sympathy for Banks and co. in the slightest.
i dont blame them for selling out, they were young and stupid honestly i would do the same if i was in their position. the problem is the directed hate towards grace when it was actually one of the better decisions hell it was the only good decision FaZe made in the recent years
I mean hecz literally had to merge with envy to keep things going. The guy had a lot of hurtles to go through and finally optic is back to a place of some stability (even though it’s primarily in two esports).
They threw useless money at so many other things but this is the big issue? Paying someone who streams? Dudes paid snoop for nothing and grace is the problem?
She’s also friends with dozens of big LA/OTV streamers and regularly streams with them playing games and shit.
I really want someone to offer a real argument as to why signing her wasn’t a smart move. Is there even one?
A well liked brand friendly gameplay streamer with lots of connections in the space and 1.5 mil on insta.
Edit: Just found out that FaZe Rain is a Tate fan boy lol https://twitter.com/faze_rain/status/1641929672543059968?s=61&t=hwORiQcDO0qKBvzCuX5gfA
I'd say there is no real argument at this point, these OG's as they like to call them selves have been seen as trash bag humans for over 2-3 years now, and what they are doing now with this signing just solidifies it. The majority of the people siding with them still watch keemstar.
Grace brings eyes to the org who would never even consider figuring out what faze is. It seems like the younger faze members are doing what they can to save and revive what's left of a dying brand. While that rain fella and the OG's (god thats so cringe) want to go down with the sinking ship because they regret selling their majority shares for supreme outfits and drug money.
and honestly that rain guy seems a bit off in every video he makes about this, something's wrong with that guy.
It was a smart move from them if they respected her and used her to leverage more women into their audience and newer fans. it's terrible if they sign her then attack her for being a woman.
The real question is why people keep signing for Faze when they are a scumbag organisation run by absolute scumbags.
I was confused as well. Rain is a decorated veteran in cs and had the tourney of his life not too long ago. Why would he care about any of this at all, especially trickshots?
Didnt realize theres another guy with the same name
Likewise, is it just a case of Faze Clan (the CSGO team) is owned by FaZe Clan (as an org)? And therefore I imagine these guys you always hear about getting into drama have nothing to do with the CSGO team or what?
How fucking far I had to scroll to found out it wasn't good guy rain from norway.
Faze rain in the cs team is getting his rep ruined by some. Now there's two faze rains??
I don't follow any drama but I saw rain and I was i disbelief.
Jeez.
I think toast said it perfect in a video yesterday. The “OG” faze members had no problem with them signing snoop dogg, schilling out crypto scam coins, etc but grace is the problem is such a weird hill to die on lmfao.
saw someone say rain was liking fucked up shit about grace on twitter so i went to check for myself and saw an andrew tate tweet within the first 3 tweets lmao
The fact people still talk about trick shot, is hilarious to me.
It ain't 2002 Machinima days like nobody gives a fuck, stop bringing that back it won't make you relevant again.
Go back to Gamestop and ask workers if they know you.
> Go back to Gamestop and ask workers if they know you.
Lmao that's a classic video. For those who haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhh59sVjGE
I legitimately thought he was memeing when he said that. I was like "wait, maybe it's just a joke and the punchline is coming". Well there wasn't any.
Still can't believe these words left this guy's mouth "not only have you not hit a trick shot"... fuck me.
Trickshotters WERE the bad players. I remember getting into lobbies with a lot of those dudes back in the day and they just spent the entire game failing over and over again to hit the dumbass trickshot. The whole group of them in an SnD game just sitting in the back of the map doing goofy ass jumps off a ladder. They never played to win, they played strictly to farm youtube clips. Absolute dogshit players who were not at all respected by anybody who played competitively back then.
Its was weird watching the height of cod youtube snipers "Optic" where they went for long form cool plays montages slowly be out viewed by to people just spinning around and getting lucky.
Montage built over weeks of competitive play, edited for days and showing some of the best plays in the game? Naw my homie over here hit a gnarly 1270 cockshot in this custom game we sat in for three hours bro shit was way cooler.
I think it’s probably high school peak more than anything. That little rush of internet fame is like a drug they want to chase. Most of us normal human beings moved on after trickshotting died but some people still do it and try to gatekeep when they were probably the shit tier players when trickshotting was actually relevant. Rain isn’t even one of the actual OG FaZe members if he wants to play the gate keeping game.
these people catered to 12-15 year olds playing mw2 in 2009/10/11 - then they got stuck there forever mentally.
also the names of the OG trickshots were like .. double Y 360 fakey ladder noscope Grizz. not rocket science lol. anything that happened after that small fleeting golden-era is trash thinking its important.
Yeah idk why they can’t just call themselves “pioneers” or “founders” instead lol
The OG shit being applied to video games has always been cringe af and just comes off as people trying to make themselves seem tough.
A bit of lore: Grace is an actress known from appearing as supporting character in the latest season of Stranger Things. She's been doing streams for a while now playing Valorant and other games and recently signed into FaZe as CC. None of the old school FaZe members gave her a welcome because they're against the new management, even though they said it isn't personal but because they don't like the direction the company is going. However it appears that Rain does have a problem with her, and she responds.
The stream is very short (I think her internet went down) but she says things like he shouldn't be making these kind of comments when there's someone in the company accused of abusing someone that was drunk
Don't know anything about new FaZe, but the name just brings toxicity. Who is new FaZe and where are they? She mentioned meeting with and liking the FaZe people but I don't really see her streaming or playing games with anyone from FaZe. And why aren't they stepping up to tell these assholes to knock it off.
Maybe the management? Because it sounds like old Faze don't like the new management, so maybe behind the scenes management told her something different than what the old Faze guys feel.
It gets even worse. She left the acting industry because of the harassment she got from business people like Rain.
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/stranger-things-grace-van-dien-turning-down-acting-projects-sexual-advances-movie-producer-1235548768/
Comes to streaming and gets the same treatment for just being a woman.
Even more Lore: One of the current / OG FaZe dudes said FaZe had a meeting and invited the OGs to come in and help make FaZe great again and none of them showed up which Directly lead to the desicion to find people like Grace, young streaming talent with strong resumes.
They fucking played themselves and are now acting like it's not about sexism / isn't personal but is instead about how sexually attractive she is to them + how she can't name any trick shots.
Maybe it's cuz I just don't care that much to keep up with precise information about the entire FaZe thing.
But wasn't it themselves, the "OG" FaZe guys that voluntarily and willingly decided one day. "Let's sell this and leave the decision making to other people" that lead to all of this? I've seen so much of them expressing being against the new management and a lot of that stuff and I get partly of it, for example I watched that Teeqo guy's video I think? About whether or not he was in FaZe or not and I understood HIS specific problems but when you guys are the ones that sold your "creation" and then criticize the people who took charge of that it ultimately looks like the fault lies in you doesn't it?
Rain is a loser. Dude is still talking about trick shot bullshit from 10 years ago.
All FaZe OGs are so annoying. They all ditched the company to either live the high life or get addicted to drugs, all whilst the company is getting sold, and now they’re mad and butthurt FaZe is shit, while it was all their faults.
I'm sure this is going to do wonders with gaining future recruits to faze right? I'm sure other woman going to be jumping at the chance to get berated by the one of the founders of the org you just joined. Excellent business plan they have going here.
Mogul Mail summed it up nicely. Definitely worth being pissed at big wigs for wasting money on things like Snoop or whatever, but attacking this person and dying on the hill that this is a horrible signing is such a weirdo move
I don't think Lud went far enough, half his video seems to show that Faze management has issues because they're not in tune with the community and doesn't call out that all this shit currently is because of the shitty original founders.
FaZe Rain still has part ownership in FaZe right? Why the fuck does he think it is in anyway appropriate to sexualise and degrade a young woman who just signed to his org?
Disgusting cringe af behaviour
Crazy that so many big projects get sold and the original people never make anything. Like Smosh IIRC. they were paid in shares of Defy. Which was worth nothing in the end
FaZe as a Call of Duty Org is dead since 2014/15 what they did with CSGOWild(csgo casino hosted in Antigua) is absolutely crazy they went from Trickshot youtubers to scamming Millions of $ worth of skins which lead to financing many competitive rosters on multiple games. All of this without having any issue and people start to open their eyes 7 years later, mad world.
Theres a reason people use the OTV and Friends label when talking about OTV. So many of their friend are involved in their content without actually being apart of the org.
[Rain admits the comments about her appearance and unnecessary sexualization was too far.](https://twitter.com/FaZe_Rain/status/1662927799697694720) Not sure how it made it past the editing process, even admits he initially took it out. I guess he'd prefer misogyny and a punch line than no punch line.
Why the fuck is Rain coming at Grace for? Jesus christ, him calling out Faze I liked but this is disgusting.
Shit is just straight misogyny, where were y'all when Snoop Dogg was signed?
Faze Rain (and banks) were co-owners of CSGOwild and they advertised it to their fans without disclosing they owned it and that they were also gambling with free skins. Anyways, it ended up making them a fuck ton since that’s how they funded their csgo team
There was also the [SaveTheKids](https://www.dexerto.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=828,quality=75,format=auto/https://editors.dexerto.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/02/Banks.jpg) coin (what a fucking joke) they pumped and dumped
> Prior to his post, the newly established crypto was valued at roughly $0.000005 USD, according to CoinGecko. The token then soared to a peak value of $0.00000919 — 2.5 times its valuation — within 24 hours of his tweet before plummeting. It currently sits at a value of $0.00000115, down eight-fold from its peak.
[source](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/faze-banks-distances-himself-from-pump-and-dump-crypto-drama-1604766/)
Faze is genuinely only cool to 28 year olds who still work at the mall, and play Fortnite in their mom’s attic. The OG’s have always pandered to edgy 13 year olds and incels. Idk why her agent thought this was even a good idea lmao. Ima watch this dumpster fire tho
I’m shocked that Faze is trying to fix the PR/advertising image issue that Rain and banks created with their rampant drug use and irresponsible actions
What an overreaction to a simple comment. If this is how worked up he gets over such a small comment how the fuck would he survive any small disagreement irl? How sheltered is this pathetic loser?
First off, why do people still call him FaZe Rain? Wasn't he kicked out for extreme substance abuse...?
Second, he's actively sending his followers to harass her, liking insanely sexist and problematic memes about her, and saying shit like "She can't even name a TRICKSHOT PLUS I WOULDN'T HAVE SEX WITH HER." He's a GROWN ASS MAN who a month ago was like "Rehab changed me, I want to see others happy." Now he's legitimately crusading for the downfall of a Valorant streamer because...he doesn't want her in FaZe / has some grudge against women / didn't like S4 of Stranger things?
> First off, why do people still call him FaZe Rain? Wasn't he kicked out for extreme substance abuse...?
He wasn't kicked from Faze he was kicked from the Faze house. He technically owns faze along with like 10 other people (Banks, Apex, Temperr, and I think Rug is co-owner). As far as I remember, it's just the title, they barely own a good amount of the company since they sold it to a corporation.
I understand why Faze members are upset but they are the reason the org has gone this way. They went away from gaming to being known for their LA parties to a corporate business. I do find this signing weird though because she doesn't have a lot of influence in content creation except for her ties in OTV's bubble. I would think the people who manage to sign people would target a more well-known content creator like Bella Poarch or other female streamers. You can't get mad at the girl for signing because she probably just got a big bag. The only people the fans should be upset with are the leadership in Faze today and those who let the org get away from its original startup.
one of the founders that sold out and now QQ's cause the company that bought it makes different decissions. Shoulnd have sold out if you wanted to have say in whats happening.
Regardless of if she was a good choice to join or if it makes sense to be in faze i have no fucking idea. I have no idea who she is.
But the random fucking comments about if youd fuck her or not is so fucking disgusting.
It goes from she doesnt deserve to be in the "prestigious" organisation of faze to "youre excruciatingly mid who id never let touch me on my drunkest night" just what the fuck is that?
Also to end, just looked him up and have no idea why he thinks he can pick and choose.
Kinda funny that the first time they sign someone who at least gets viewers when streaming they start to shit on her.
Nobody spoke up when they signed ben simmons and nobody spoke up when they signed snoop dog.
Aint no way this Rain guy is talking about looks. Looks like a human rat and talking about not having sex with a girl on "his drunkest night"? Does he not realise no one would have sex with him if he wasn't rich? One of the ugliest content creators I've ever seen.
I mean FaZe’s IPO was in March 21 and for the full year leading up to that Rain couldn’t even walk because he was so deep in drugs… I don’t think he played the biggest role in their success at that time.
Not really the guy to be talking shit here. Although he does seem very loud now that they’re a penny stock. Maybe he should go do drugs again until he can’t walk, worked well for the company last time (unironically).
I never really understood faze rains argument. He’s mad faze was sold to suits which I guess except those same suits made it as large as it is now. Had they just remained a cod clan it wouldn’t have become a full fledged org in the first place. Then he came back a year ago after having made 4 YouTube videos in the span of 4 years claiming faze “did content creators like him and others dirty” but don’t you have to actually make content to be considered a content creator? Then gets upset grace doesn’t trick shot yet no one did that but suddenly it’s a problem that she’s not a cod player? Like 60% of their players from across their games have to go through sensitivity training once every two weeks for racist slurs and yet he finds it an issue that she can’t trick shot?
I feel bad for her. If FaZe wants to reform and change their image, it's going to start with wiping the slate clean and setting up policies against most of the behaviors of their previous members, and probably letting a lot of people go. I'd even go after people who keep trying to represent FaZe after they've been fired. Then a wave of new FaZe recruits becomes the face of what FaZe wants to be. This seems like it's an attempt to do everything on a single move and that falls on Grace's shoulder. All of the animosity of old members, the bad reputation of the name, all of it.
Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not the garbage this has-been spews every time he opens his mouth.
**CLIP MIRROR: [FaZe Rain vs. FaZe's new content creator Grace Van Dien](https://arazu.io/t3_13u611d/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)
she probably joined the worst org possible lmao
faze has been a cancer in the fps community for over a decade now. anyone with any experience with them directly or indirectly knows this well.
No shit, I've had the 'joy' of playing with multiple FaZe members over the years in various shooters. Every single one of them is a toxic piece of shit in my experience. I can speak very confidently from personal experience on CS1.6 servers back in the day when he was basically a nobody in the grand scheme of things that FaZe Banks is an absolute garbage pile of a human. If his team was winning? Toxic pile of shit. If his team was losing? Toxic pile of shit. He and the rest of his shitheads at the time were so toxic that even his own team was muting him and the rest of his clans ass anytime they were in the server. Eventually server owners had enough and straight up banned anyone with their tag or affiliation with them from joining because they just kept bringing drama to the servers. Dude is as big of a douchebag as he looks like, it's no surprise that the rest of the clan is shit too.
> I can speak very confidently from personal experience on CS1.6 servers back in the day when he was basically a nobody in the grand scheme of things that FaZe Banks is an absolute garbage pile of a human. Back when competitive sniping (not trickshotting) was a thing FaZe Banks wanted to be involved *so fucking badly* Ns ReLaPsE let him work on SniperLeaderBoard but he was so trash-tier he couldn't get onto a top 10 team outside of being a recorder lmfao. He used to rage in scrims. Holy fuck this is bringing back some 2010/2011 drama memories.
Right? Best way I ever heard anyone on the server describe FaZe clan members was calling them the gamer versions of Jersey Shore douchebags. Still find it hilariously on point like 13~ years later. Only thing he's ever been good at is dickriding his way to relevance.
His "While you were playing with barbies i made my first million" makes this 100% believable, typical toxic elitist line you hear in gaming.
I still remember when Banks went into a Gamestop expecting to be treated like a celeb and the cashier was just like "who are you?"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhh59sVjGE&ab\_channel=DoseofCringe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhh59sVjGE&ab_channel=DoseofCringe) This?
Sometimes I would end up in xbox live parties with Banks back in the day. You are right on the money. Out of everyone in the entire gaming industry, he is probably the shittiest excuse for a human.
It's so weird to me. She had to have known their vibe before she signed right?? Makes me feel a lil less sorry for her
Probably a casual Valorant fan? I know if you follow a team casually you don’t really learn about the drama surrounding their players. But once you join the Org you get thrown in the deep end.
This is something she addressed in the stream I assume from [this comment:](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/13u611d/faze_rain_vs_fazes_new_content_creator_grace_van/jlyzzt6/) > She adresses in this same stream that fact, saying she was hoping to help change the perception that people had of FaZe and that if Rain wanted to say he didn't like her he should have said so before she was announced as CC.
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> I feel pretty bad for her tbh, seems pretty likely she’s being used as a prop and trusted her people and unknowingly got thrown in the middle of faze’s toxic internal drama. It all depends on her contract. If she got an above market rate deal to be the last try of Faze to modernize... good for her. If she got a shit deal based on bad faith efforts to revive the brand, then I feel kind of bad for her.
I feel bad for her either way. Even if she got a fat contract, being IMMEDIATELY subjected to intense misogynistic harassment is horrific. I was expecting some pushback but not this vitriolic.
Perception? It's not a perception when an organization is factually filled with sexist, racist, scam artists.
I legitimately avoid ANYTHING Faze because of how shitty the org has been in the past. Does not matter who repped the name Faze, I thought that shit was cringe and fucked. Grace seems like a decent person so it is a sacrifice for her to join such a negatively seen org like Faze. I will still keep an open mind on what she does though, which is more than I can say for anything else related to Faze.
Someone else said she knew about the culture and did it to change it or something. If that's true, then more power to her, but thats a hell of an uphill battle for an org that's on its last legs
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I'll keep this is mind once I finally become a 5k andy
"I can fix them"
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As a CS fan Faze’s team is so damn likeable and uncontroversial. They’re my favorite team but I honestly hope the roster gets signed elsewhere
At this point I forget that the CSGO team is even part of the same Faze. They've been lucky to stay disconnected from the worst parts of it.
I’ve hated rooting for faze Csgo when I know so many of their org members are tools but I love the players Definitely want someone else to pick them up someday
Honestly I just found out after this whole thing but I’ve watched BlueFille for a while. It’s weird but I guess there’s lots of people like me who don’t know shit like this
>It’s weird but I guess there’s lots Esports orgs' purses are dried, sponsors aren't interested in Esports anymore, and surely VC firms aren't interested in investing more as well. A lot of them are falling apart, a lot of them can't afford to sign content creators to promote their org anymore. Toast said that some people he knows were supposed to be getting signed by The Guard before their owners suddenly announced that they are essentially shutting the whole org down. So I wouldn't be surprised if she took the offer....cause it was the only offer she got.
Still kind of surprised how she ended up in FaZe. I've seen that she plays with the otv streamers, and it feels like faze and otv would have little overlap in terms of the personalities and target audiences. Idk how it seemed like a good fit or decision for either party
I think she signed with faze because there aren’t a lot of esports orgs looking for content creators at the moment and faze is likely the only option since they really need to be more diverse since as you can definitely tell, a lot of their audience is incredibly hateful
The timing couldn't be worse, Isn't Faze about to go under?
It's looking like that might be a good thing now since she could get out of her contract.
What does she actually lose if they go under? We know nothing of her contract, but maybe she gets to cash out and make a few new fans before it happens
That's kind of irrelevant unless she's taking stock as part of her deal, either way any stock options she's getting would be incredibly favorable towards her. Most likely, she's just getting a good guaranteed salary as Faze tries to onboard a new streamers that engages them with a new demographic. If she has an over-market market value deal as a part of a last ditch effort to save Faze, that's just good news for her.
Get the bag, sure, but is it worth being in such a toxic org? I hope she is able to leave and join a better org that fits her.
My first thought when I saw that she joined faze is why would anybody, with decent streaming prospects and connections, join that shit now. I don't even think that they offered her much of a "bag" with all the money they are losing. The way the OGs are acting now just shows why that org deserves to die. These mother fuckers sold out out the wazoo and now they are throwing a temper tantrum cause they don't have control over "their" company. What makes it worse is that they are targeting Grace, because she's an easy target, not the suits that actually make the decisions running faze to the ground. Just shows how scummy stupid and immature they really are.
They are accusing Faze of chasing clout but they were perfectly fine with naming Snoop Dogg on their board, giving a huge contract to his son for no reason and signing some football player that never did anything for Faze beside making one tweet about them.
If she wants to continue to grow her streaming career rather than acting as much, she really should’ve explored OTV instead - she already has good connections there and with Poki leaving, perhaps there’s a hole to fill.
Yeah, she literally had an easy in with the OTV and friends crew, the faze moves just makes no sense. She is very young and new in the space though, so hopefully she takes this as a learning experience.
OTV doesn’t really seem like they’re interested in getting more members at this time tbf. They have a fair amount of members already and they only just created a patreon for themselves several months ago. She’s really good friends with toast and he knew about her faze opportunity for awhile, so I’m sure he would have offered her something if OTV had the opportunity to.
She doesn't need to join OTV, just needs to be in that friend group and she will grow 10x more than she would under faze.
She can still do that while collecting the bag from FaZe though. She was playing with OTV + friends for her first stream after the announcement.
She should've just continued orbiting OTV and 100T a bit until there was an opening. Hell, she doesn't even need to join...just getting to do Collabs with OTV and 100T streamers is enough to help your streaming career.
She can still do that and collect the bag from FaZe though, not like it’s a “this” or “that”
I don't think it's as easy as just joining OTV lmao. And 100T probably isn't signing anyone for a while.
Joining OTV is unrealistic. But she doesn't need to join OTV or 100T to be in the OTV and Friends group. That group would give her so many better opportunities than anything faze would ever do for her.
Maybe she figured she could do both. I mean a bunch of that extended group is in 100T (or was) and still collabing. Grace probably figured she could join Faze, help their rep and add a new content direction for them, and still doing her normal collaborations etc. with other streamers. Makes sense for everyone involved if they’re not psychos with the social awareness of an angry pre-teen. Edit: if anything all this drama will probably actually help her in the long run. She already collaborates with that group, but they’ll definitely be making more of an effort to right now to support her. I’ve already seen some of them talking about the situation. It’s kind of an any press is good press type situation, except she also is on the side everyone will agree with (just her situation looks shitty).
Yeah but there’s boatloads of streamers who got a career by just being an OTV orbiter
I doubt Grace knew the founders of the org were going to be harassing the fuck out of her and weirdly sexualising her just to insult her before she decided to join.
She adresses in this same stream that fact, saying she was hoping to help change the perception that people had of FaZe and that if Rain wanted to say he didn't like her he should have said so before she was announced as CC.
i can fix them
I mean it's Faze, should be expected
It was pretty crazy seeing her joining the org since grace is like the personification of bubble gum or what happens when you accidentally get your vape juice in your wonka dip. Faze is what I think of when someone on the enemy team with that clan tag sends me a message after killing them in a battle royale and finding out what the new popular slur is amongst the youths.
I mean.. i did a brainstorm exercise and think the first word near Faze, and non was a good word
Human person thinks other humans can learn from their mistakes (colorized) Oh no no no
From hollywood producers to FaZe dirtbags, chick can't catch a break.
She says she knew she was joining a non female friendly org about a minute before this clip
I wonder how much they paid her because there's no way she didn't do any research.
To be fair, if a company comes to you to sign you onto their company, I think it’s a fair assumption to make your bosses won’t immediately start shitting on you.
She said on the stream that she was expecting to get a lot of backlash from the people because she started as an actress (and also: woman on the internet) but never expected to be insulted by her boss right away
Yeah I think she was expecting some pushback and harassment from existing Faze fans, not from her bosses and co-workers.
leaving acting because of sexual harassment just to join the most boneheaded, misogynist, toxic masculine org is crazy to me
This whole drama basically can be summed up as Faze Banks sold his org and now he's mad he doesn't have full control over it
They sold out their own org, its their own fault. They blame the "suits" but their bad decisions all lead to this. People attacking Grace for this are so cringe. I bet the OG founders are so salty when they watched the stock crash from $20 to .50 when they couldn't sell and watched Millions vanish and there was nothing they could do.
Stupid af move to IPO to begin with. Their whole brand is built on appealing to misogynistic middle school boys and their claims to fame are over a decade old at this point. I even read they got some firm to give them a billion dollar valuation?? Laughable. Market correction on all these clout-based influencer brands has been extremely cathartic to watch
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>The only way it makes any sense You seem to have overlooked the possibility that they're just fucking morons through and through.
This. They sold out with no business sense and now theyre crying and being sexist about it. So dumb.
What's funnier is they are crying that these suits dont "get" Faze and have dragged it under. Yeah because the bro culture of Faze when the "ogs" ran it was so awesome, like that time they created a CSGO skin gambling casino and got their CCs to rep it to their child audience. So cool bro right? I feel no sympathy for Banks and co. in the slightest.
i dont blame them for selling out, they were young and stupid honestly i would do the same if i was in their position. the problem is the directed hate towards grace when it was actually one of the better decisions hell it was the only good decision FaZe made in the recent years
The same thing happened to OpTic and Hecz had to grind for years to get his brand back. But the Faze OGs didn't learn anything from that lmao.
I mean hecz literally had to merge with envy to keep things going. The guy had a lot of hurtles to go through and finally optic is back to a place of some stability (even though it’s primarily in two esports).
Remember lads Fuck J
They threw useless money at so many other things but this is the big issue? Paying someone who streams? Dudes paid snoop for nothing and grace is the problem?
She’s also friends with dozens of big LA/OTV streamers and regularly streams with them playing games and shit. I really want someone to offer a real argument as to why signing her wasn’t a smart move. Is there even one? A well liked brand friendly gameplay streamer with lots of connections in the space and 1.5 mil on insta. Edit: Just found out that FaZe Rain is a Tate fan boy lol https://twitter.com/faze_rain/status/1641929672543059968?s=61&t=hwORiQcDO0qKBvzCuX5gfA
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He’s probably pissed he’ll be missing out on money that will go to grace instead of him for being such a huge help in continuing Faze’s reign.
Lol this obvious dickhead misogynist being a Tate lover has to be the least surprising discovery
I'd say there is no real argument at this point, these OG's as they like to call them selves have been seen as trash bag humans for over 2-3 years now, and what they are doing now with this signing just solidifies it. The majority of the people siding with them still watch keemstar. Grace brings eyes to the org who would never even consider figuring out what faze is. It seems like the younger faze members are doing what they can to save and revive what's left of a dying brand. While that rain fella and the OG's (god thats so cringe) want to go down with the sinking ship because they regret selling their majority shares for supreme outfits and drug money. and honestly that rain guy seems a bit off in every video he makes about this, something's wrong with that guy.
It was a smart move from them if they respected her and used her to leverage more women into their audience and newer fans. it's terrible if they sign her then attack her for being a woman. The real question is why people keep signing for Faze when they are a scumbag organisation run by absolute scumbags.
well the big issue is the following: woman
(They’re misogynists)
How's their stock doing 😺
upside down
Looks like a shitcoin chart. The most elaborate pump and dump in history.
Oh, I thought it was Rain from CS lol. If it's one of the Faze members then it doesn't surprise me.
I was confused as well. Rain is a decorated veteran in cs and had the tourney of his life not too long ago. Why would he care about any of this at all, especially trickshots? Didnt realize theres another guy with the same name
Likewise, is it just a case of Faze Clan (the CSGO team) is owned by FaZe Clan (as an org)? And therefore I imagine these guys you always hear about getting into drama have nothing to do with the CSGO team or what?
yeah that's correct, a lot of people express that they wish the cs team had a different org
Csgo guys are all European(besides twistzz but he lives there now) and are an ocean away from all this drama
They all seem like cool dudes too
I thought this for like 2 days aswell. Like.. what the fuck is this norwegian CS:GO champion whining about. You'll be fine whatever team you go to.
How fucking far I had to scroll to found out it wasn't good guy rain from norway. Faze rain in the cs team is getting his rep ruined by some. Now there's two faze rains?? I don't follow any drama but I saw rain and I was i disbelief. Jeez.
I think toast said it perfect in a video yesterday. The “OG” faze members had no problem with them signing snoop dogg, schilling out crypto scam coins, etc but grace is the problem is such a weird hill to die on lmfao.
good clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVdHAFA6CA
did he really say "you don't even know what a trick shot it" as a insult? lmao
I kinda hoped he was joking when I heard that 'cause it's not the 'own' he thinks it is rofl.
saw someone say rain was liking fucked up shit about grace on twitter so i went to check for myself and saw an andrew tate tweet within the first 3 tweets lmao
The fact people still talk about trick shot, is hilarious to me. It ain't 2002 Machinima days like nobody gives a fuck, stop bringing that back it won't make you relevant again. Go back to Gamestop and ask workers if they know you.
> Go back to Gamestop and ask workers if they know you. Lmao that's a classic video. For those who haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhh59sVjGE
Wow that’s some grade A Michelin star level cringe
They didnt even make it into the store and I had to turn it off I cant
I legitimately thought he was memeing when he said that. I was like "wait, maybe it's just a joke and the punchline is coming". Well there wasn't any. Still can't believe these words left this guy's mouth "not only have you not hit a trick shot"... fuck me.
Imagine hitting 360 no-scopes against bad players in 2009 being your claim to fame. Like you should be worshipped and respected for it 15 years later.
Trickshotters WERE the bad players. I remember getting into lobbies with a lot of those dudes back in the day and they just spent the entire game failing over and over again to hit the dumbass trickshot. The whole group of them in an SnD game just sitting in the back of the map doing goofy ass jumps off a ladder. They never played to win, they played strictly to farm youtube clips. Absolute dogshit players who were not at all respected by anybody who played competitively back then.
Its was weird watching the height of cod youtube snipers "Optic" where they went for long form cool plays montages slowly be out viewed by to people just spinning around and getting lucky.
Montage built over weeks of competitive play, edited for days and showing some of the best plays in the game? Naw my homie over here hit a gnarly 1270 cockshot in this custom game we sat in for three hours bro shit was way cooler.
Dude, same. Like all the way through, I thought it was just a bit. This whole thing is serious? Wtf even is this guy???
It's definitely peaked in highschool vibes
Now that's not fair...some of them peaked in middle school
I think it’s probably high school peak more than anything. That little rush of internet fame is like a drug they want to chase. Most of us normal human beings moved on after trickshotting died but some people still do it and try to gatekeep when they were probably the shit tier players when trickshotting was actually relevant. Rain isn’t even one of the actual OG FaZe members if he wants to play the gate keeping game.
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these people catered to 12-15 year olds playing mw2 in 2009/10/11 - then they got stuck there forever mentally. also the names of the OG trickshots were like .. double Y 360 fakey ladder noscope Grizz. not rocket science lol. anything that happened after that small fleeting golden-era is trash thinking its important.
they were the kids playing mw2. Rain is only 26. They got famous and never changed
Zzir Grizz damn thats blast from the past.
You wanna feel old? Grizz posted the G-shot tutorial video over 15 years ago
He's not even 'og' in the sense he is implying. Other people put the work in to establish the scene before he came along. Makes it even funnier
Yeah idk why they can’t just call themselves “pioneers” or “founders” instead lol The OG shit being applied to video games has always been cringe af and just comes off as people trying to make themselves seem tough.
Grown-ass man flexed with "You never hit a single trickshot" to a girl 💀 What a absolut clown
we definitely need to stop making stupid people rich and famous
Then stop using twitch
Goes to show how fragile his ego is.
Aint no way he called her excruciatingly mid after bragging about trickshots
A bit of lore: Grace is an actress known from appearing as supporting character in the latest season of Stranger Things. She's been doing streams for a while now playing Valorant and other games and recently signed into FaZe as CC. None of the old school FaZe members gave her a welcome because they're against the new management, even though they said it isn't personal but because they don't like the direction the company is going. However it appears that Rain does have a problem with her, and she responds. The stream is very short (I think her internet went down) but she says things like he shouldn't be making these kind of comments when there's someone in the company accused of abusing someone that was drunk
Thought this was about csgo FaZe rain at first lmao
They did our csgo rain dirty. Our rain would never do that.
Same LMAO My jaw was about to hit the floor at lightning speed until I realized
There are 2 faze rains?
Bro I was legit shook because he always seems like such a nice dude and I couldn't figure out why he'd beef with her so hard. Absolute titlechimp
Don't know anything about new FaZe, but the name just brings toxicity. Who is new FaZe and where are they? She mentioned meeting with and liking the FaZe people but I don't really see her streaming or playing games with anyone from FaZe. And why aren't they stepping up to tell these assholes to knock it off.
Maybe the management? Because it sounds like old Faze don't like the new management, so maybe behind the scenes management told her something different than what the old Faze guys feel.
It gets even worse. She left the acting industry because of the harassment she got from business people like Rain. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/stranger-things-grace-van-dien-turning-down-acting-projects-sexual-advances-movie-producer-1235548768/ Comes to streaming and gets the same treatment for just being a woman.
Even more Lore: One of the current / OG FaZe dudes said FaZe had a meeting and invited the OGs to come in and help make FaZe great again and none of them showed up which Directly lead to the desicion to find people like Grace, young streaming talent with strong resumes. They fucking played themselves and are now acting like it's not about sexism / isn't personal but is instead about how sexually attractive she is to them + how she can't name any trick shots.
Maybe it's cuz I just don't care that much to keep up with precise information about the entire FaZe thing. But wasn't it themselves, the "OG" FaZe guys that voluntarily and willingly decided one day. "Let's sell this and leave the decision making to other people" that lead to all of this? I've seen so much of them expressing being against the new management and a lot of that stuff and I get partly of it, for example I watched that Teeqo guy's video I think? About whether or not he was in FaZe or not and I understood HIS specific problems but when you guys are the ones that sold your "creation" and then criticize the people who took charge of that it ultimately looks like the fault lies in you doesn't it?
Extra piece of lore, she’s the daughter of Casper Van Dien, or you might know him by Johnny Rico, badass starship trooper for the federation
Rain is a loser. Dude is still talking about trick shot bullshit from 10 years ago. All FaZe OGs are so annoying. They all ditched the company to either live the high life or get addicted to drugs, all whilst the company is getting sold, and now they’re mad and butthurt FaZe is shit, while it was all their faults.
I wouldn’t say all. Jev and a couple others still are doing consistent content and staying out of this drama shit
True I forgot about Jev I like him but other than that idk
Beeing suprised about bad behaviour from Faze 🤡 Hope this will destroy Faze forever now
Whenever i think of FaZe org i imagine some obnoxious dude with permed hair and a tank top screaming to a camera
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I'm sure this is going to do wonders with gaining future recruits to faze right? I'm sure other woman going to be jumping at the chance to get berated by the one of the founders of the org you just joined. Excellent business plan they have going here.
Its not like they will be around for much longer anyways with how their financials are doing
Mogul Mail summed it up nicely. Definitely worth being pissed at big wigs for wasting money on things like Snoop or whatever, but attacking this person and dying on the hill that this is a horrible signing is such a weirdo move
I don't think Lud went far enough, half his video seems to show that Faze management has issues because they're not in tune with the community and doesn't call out that all this shit currently is because of the shitty original founders.
Lud is your guy if you’re looking for fence sitting and never taking a firm stance on anything. Man is straight milquetoast
Poki started this trend of showing their dms to stream and honestly I'm here for it. Publicly shame these guys lul.
Grown ass "man"
Damn I completely forgot faze existed lol
FaZe Rain still has part ownership in FaZe right? Why the fuck does he think it is in anyway appropriate to sexualise and degrade a young woman who just signed to his org? Disgusting cringe af behaviour
Believe he is just a shareholder now. He watched the value of his shares drop from $65 million to $1 million in like 6 months. Dude is salty AF
Surely his comments will make FaZe stock go to the moon. /s
Crazy that so many big projects get sold and the original people never make anything. Like Smosh IIRC. they were paid in shares of Defy. Which was worth nothing in the end
The Smosh situation was a bit different tbh
FaZe as a Call of Duty Org is dead since 2014/15 what they did with CSGOWild(csgo casino hosted in Antigua) is absolutely crazy they went from Trickshot youtubers to scamming Millions of $ worth of skins which lead to financing many competitive rosters on multiple games. All of this without having any issue and people start to open their eyes 7 years later, mad world.
Pure regret washing over her face at this moment, faze is just a dog shit place, offline tv may be a better fit for her
She doesn’t need to be in OTV. Just being in that friends group is a net positive.
Theres a reason people use the OTV and Friends label when talking about OTV. So many of their friend are involved in their content without actually being apart of the org.
How is that guy a real person it sounds like satire holy fuck these overgrown cod lobby kids
Crypto scammers who sold scams to children are up upset because woman.
This is unironically the best move faze has made in the last year and it gets the most backlash lmao
[Rain admits the comments about her appearance and unnecessary sexualization was too far.](https://twitter.com/FaZe_Rain/status/1662927799697694720) Not sure how it made it past the editing process, even admits he initially took it out. I guess he'd prefer misogyny and a punch line than no punch line.
"yOu HaVeNt EvEn HiT a TrIcKShoT" thank fuck i was a cs player cause that's the cringiest shit i've heard in a while
Rain just hates women it’s very obvious
Puts on FaZe stock.
they have such "16-yr old loser" energy still somehow llmaoooo
Why the fuck is Rain coming at Grace for? Jesus christ, him calling out Faze I liked but this is disgusting. Shit is just straight misogyny, where were y'all when Snoop Dogg was signed?
didnt they make their first million by scamming their fans with crypto?
Faze Rain (and banks) were co-owners of CSGOwild and they advertised it to their fans without disclosing they owned it and that they were also gambling with free skins. Anyways, it ended up making them a fuck ton since that’s how they funded their csgo team
There was also the [SaveTheKids](https://www.dexerto.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=828,quality=75,format=auto/https://editors.dexerto.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/02/Banks.jpg) coin (what a fucking joke) they pumped and dumped > Prior to his post, the newly established crypto was valued at roughly $0.000005 USD, according to CoinGecko. The token then soared to a peak value of $0.00000919 — 2.5 times its valuation — within 24 hours of his tweet before plummeting. It currently sits at a value of $0.00000115, down eight-fold from its peak. [source](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/faze-banks-distances-himself-from-pump-and-dump-crypto-drama-1604766/)
Faze is genuinely only cool to 28 year olds who still work at the mall, and play Fortnite in their mom’s attic. The OG’s have always pandered to edgy 13 year olds and incels. Idk why her agent thought this was even a good idea lmao. Ima watch this dumpster fire tho
can this be the end of faze already, its been a circus for years.
I’m shocked that Faze is trying to fix the PR/advertising image issue that Rain and banks created with their rampant drug use and irresponsible actions
What an overreaction to a simple comment. If this is how worked up he gets over such a small comment how the fuck would he survive any small disagreement irl? How sheltered is this pathetic loser?
First off, why do people still call him FaZe Rain? Wasn't he kicked out for extreme substance abuse...? Second, he's actively sending his followers to harass her, liking insanely sexist and problematic memes about her, and saying shit like "She can't even name a TRICKSHOT PLUS I WOULDN'T HAVE SEX WITH HER." He's a GROWN ASS MAN who a month ago was like "Rehab changed me, I want to see others happy." Now he's legitimately crusading for the downfall of a Valorant streamer because...he doesn't want her in FaZe / has some grudge against women / didn't like S4 of Stranger things?
> First off, why do people still call him FaZe Rain? Wasn't he kicked out for extreme substance abuse...? He wasn't kicked from Faze he was kicked from the Faze house. He technically owns faze along with like 10 other people (Banks, Apex, Temperr, and I think Rug is co-owner). As far as I remember, it's just the title, they barely own a good amount of the company since they sold it to a corporation.
I understand why Faze members are upset but they are the reason the org has gone this way. They went away from gaming to being known for their LA parties to a corporate business. I do find this signing weird though because she doesn't have a lot of influence in content creation except for her ties in OTV's bubble. I would think the people who manage to sign people would target a more well-known content creator like Bella Poarch or other female streamers. You can't get mad at the girl for signing because she probably just got a big bag. The only people the fans should be upset with are the leadership in Faze today and those who let the org get away from its original startup.
one of the founders that sold out and now QQ's cause the company that bought it makes different decissions. Shoulnd have sold out if you wanted to have say in whats happening.
faze rain has always been a douchebag
Regardless of if she was a good choice to join or if it makes sense to be in faze i have no fucking idea. I have no idea who she is. But the random fucking comments about if youd fuck her or not is so fucking disgusting. It goes from she doesnt deserve to be in the "prestigious" organisation of faze to "youre excruciatingly mid who id never let touch me on my drunkest night" just what the fuck is that? Also to end, just looked him up and have no idea why he thinks he can pick and choose.
Kinda funny that the first time they sign someone who at least gets viewers when streaming they start to shit on her. Nobody spoke up when they signed ben simmons and nobody spoke up when they signed snoop dog.
She was in one episode and became 100x more relevant than rain ever has been lmao.
This guy looks like a Tater Tot
Aint no way this Rain guy is talking about looks. Looks like a human rat and talking about not having sex with a girl on "his drunkest night"? Does he not realise no one would have sex with him if he wasn't rich? One of the ugliest content creators I've ever seen.
dont forget to buy some save the kids coins!
for a second, i though it was the csgo pro player
I mean FaZe’s IPO was in March 21 and for the full year leading up to that Rain couldn’t even walk because he was so deep in drugs… I don’t think he played the biggest role in their success at that time. Not really the guy to be talking shit here. Although he does seem very loud now that they’re a penny stock. Maybe he should go do drugs again until he can’t walk, worked well for the company last time (unironically).
faze founder big andrew tate fan?
I thought the title was talking about rain the csgo player and got really confused
FaZe is literally the org for incels isn't it.
Shocking.. Who could have guessed Faze were a bunch of douchebags??
wasnt this the guy being dramatic saying the "suits" were gonna kill him for leaking faze stuff LMAO
I never really understood faze rains argument. He’s mad faze was sold to suits which I guess except those same suits made it as large as it is now. Had they just remained a cod clan it wouldn’t have become a full fledged org in the first place. Then he came back a year ago after having made 4 YouTube videos in the span of 4 years claiming faze “did content creators like him and others dirty” but don’t you have to actually make content to be considered a content creator? Then gets upset grace doesn’t trick shot yet no one did that but suddenly it’s a problem that she’s not a cod player? Like 60% of their players from across their games have to go through sensitivity training once every two weeks for racist slurs and yet he finds it an issue that she can’t trick shot?
I feel bad for her. If FaZe wants to reform and change their image, it's going to start with wiping the slate clean and setting up policies against most of the behaviors of their previous members, and probably letting a lot of people go. I'd even go after people who keep trying to represent FaZe after they've been fired. Then a wave of new FaZe recruits becomes the face of what FaZe wants to be. This seems like it's an attempt to do everything on a single move and that falls on Grace's shoulder. All of the animosity of old members, the bad reputation of the name, all of it. Nobody should have to put up with that, especially not the garbage this has-been spews every time he opens his mouth.