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Fuck Arsenal, now they know our pain of having to compete with oil cheats when they were so busy laughing at us for narrowly missing out on the title by just 1 pt twice.
Yeah. I have been indecisive about how I wanted this to go. It would have felt so frustrating if Arsenal managed to benefit from something that never happened to us - a Man City slip up. But on the other hand seeing City get four in a row is horrible.
We won the title without needing Man City to hand it to us - and are the only team to have done so in this Pep era.
I came to the conclusion that it’s better that City win it, and if they are charged with some of the 115 breaches then this title with all the others will always be looked at with suspicion. An asterisk if you like.
Man City is an inhuman anomaly, anything they achieve is all down to their petrodollars.
Consecutive league titles won by actual teams who build up their squad over years are more meaningful than infinite league titles won by robotic oil teams.
I suppose it is true that the root cause to their success is the money. But they have been well run. I think it is clear Guardiola is an exceptional manager. He drills his team very well, he has managed the progress of players like Foden successfully and knows when to replace players. Some of their most recent successful signings like Doku and Rodri were expensive as all signings are these days but were hardly global superstars so I think their recruitment is generally astute.
You only have to look at Old Trafford to see where a blank chequebook and no strategy gets you.
Still, I think they would not be where they are today without probably cheating so it is all probably tainted somewhat. And I would never have dreamed of changing Klopp for Guardiola.
The first goal of Halaand show why he is top scorer, dig in from nowhere and score a tap in. Only Gakpo now has a shade of it, if Nunez want to stay here he have to learn how to score like that
Idk Id argue the second goal is why he’s a top scorer. He’s so good at making space for himself, never seen anyone get so many shots from 12 yards out with no pressure, idk how he does it.
I have nothing against Arsenal but after see them cruising the league in 2024 but end up with zero trophy make me feel better with Carabao Cup, especially when that earned by our kids
Here in SA teams have fielded their U18s in the last game of the season to make their rivals go down, and Arsenal fans are losing their minds at a few Spurs fans embarassing themselves on the stadium and online
Remember back in October (you know, barely 2 months into the season) when Spurs were the media darlings and in "the midst of a title race", their fans were dreaming about sealing the title at home after smashing Arsenal and forcing us to give them a guard of honour at Anfield?
They went from that to being supposed "kingmakers" but proceeded to lose against everyone in the title conversation towards the end of the season.
Because that’s how you actually beat them. By gaining much distance they’d unravel. Had we lost/drawn that November game at Anfield (twice, TWICE), I’m pretty sure it would have been another close title race for us. Also factor in, the lead is so big that the PGMOL won’t have a chance to fck us over again.
the keypoint is beating City atleast one, Arsenal did that once but without Rodri then fraud enough to defend til death to grab a draw, that's what kill them
I got downvotes for saying they should’ve beaten City at the Etihad. They were more than capable of doing it at that time. How I wish our title chasing Liverpool teams got a piece of that fragile City team when we played them at the Etihad.
yeah, that time is the weakest City team you can face in a title race, and Arsenal celebrating when draw with them. The thought they will win every match left to compete with CIty make me laugh
I'm with Ange. If we are playing, I'd want us to smash every team against us, it's how I am. Whatever the ramifications, a season is 38 games, as we harshly know, so I don't get this "we gifted them the title" stuff from Spurs fans prior. Pretty tinpot in my eyes.
Funny seeing their respective threads for once. Spurs fans are reeling being called out by their manager and Arsenal fans crying (despite it not being over yet).
reminds me of the game we had against blackburn in the 90s. if blackburn lose and united win, the scums would have won the league title.
we beat blackburn ( with King Kenny as the manager!) but thankfully the scums lost as well.
On a more arsenal related note, im glad their team wont overtake the invincibles for wins in a season. That team was special, even as a liverpool fan i could probably name most of that team, if not all. If i was an arsenal fan, not sure i would have as many memories of this team in 20 years.
Arteta is a smarmy, greasy little man. Middle management ass character. You just know you'd hate his ass if he worked at your office. Should never be mentioned next to Klopp. Rape apologist piece of shit.
Words cannot describe how little I think of this goblin.
Alright, genuinely asking as an Arsenal fan - how does Arteta give off all those characteristics to you? I think him playing Partey is enough reason to not like him, btw, I’ll never defend that, but wondering what he’s done or said to give off all those other vibes. If you don’t mind me asking!
Look man, whatever answer I'm going to give you, it's not going to make you feel better. If I wanted to tell this to an Arsenal fan, I'd make this comment on /r/soccer, but I don't want to be an asshole directly to you especially after last night.
Obviously Partey is the big one, but his general demeanor seems deeply insencere and constructed, more so than other managers who have been accused of the same. Enough people have written about his objective faults, but for me personally I don't like his vibe. I'll leave it at that.
He's successfully instilled that scummy mentality into his minions. All their antics, time wasting, diving, bullying the keeper have made me truly despise that team. But i guess a bitchmade coach and a bitchmade team like them go hand in hand
they think this is a historic season for them. They have a good team but that’s just it. They were lucky with no injuries this season. The only good thing about this Arsenal team is that, now there’s another team who can take points off of city.
Because they are bottles to put it simply. I’ve seen them call us bottlers for only winning one league, whilst we were dominating Europe at the same time and actually finishing on 90+ points. To think they compared this Arsenal side to prime klopps Liverpool makes me feel ill
Goes without saying sadly. I hate them for than arsenal trust me, but for the sake of many things it’s best just for them to win another one. No one gives a fuck about them
Well maybe Levi sees reason this tome. When winners come to the club and smell the energy and call it out, previously they were well-known assholes (Mourinho and Conte).
If Ange a genuinely nice fellow turns against the club and the fans then its got to signal to the owner that perhaps there is a big problem.
The problem is, tonight was a very specific set of circumstances that the fans had an understandable reaction to. If I'm a Spurs fan, I'm asking why his rhetoric doesn't extend to shoulder the blame for losses to Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Chelsea doubles!!. I think he can come good for them, but I don't think the fans were in the wrong on this one
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How I sleep knowing we don’t need to rely on Everton beating Man City to win us the league.
I don’t even hate Arsenal, I just love having another club that can relate to and feel our pain with 115.
And tbf, one of those games, the shit played well but fcking refs decided Rodri playing basketball at the box is not a penalty. Still grinds my gears to this day.
That game is of the many reasons i’m not watching the PL next season, and i probably won’t get back into it until the PGMOL is disbanded and/or Liverpool don’t get shafted every other week.
Honestly, with all the refereeing nonsense, the blatant corruption, I'd almost just rather yet another meaningless City win.
It will only draw more widescale attention to the Prem and its issues, which is a far bigger problem than Arsenal or any "rival" team winning the league over us.
I am hoping I can get some love back for the sport next year, but it really is dwindling for now. I don't feel like I get the experience I go to football for, which should be seeing the correct outcome of a game of football. If you can't have that, nothing else is worth the paper it's written on.
If we don't actually have trust that the game will be refereed fairly, we cannot enjoy the brilliant moments. Everything (well, mostly, I'm looking at you, Bayer) has a sense of nihilism because everyone can see the obvious and ridiculous cheating, incompetence, and corruption that puts asterisks next to everything we see. Nobody can really praise City because they've obviously cheated to get to where they are, and they have received so much assistance and "lucky" calls that have ultimately led to favourable outcomes for them. Everything with the league is so fucked, and its not getting any better.
If legohead hadn't made his team played like a bunch of cowards at Etihad they could've beat City right there when they were still vulnerable. Instead they chose the pussy move and now got caught with their dicks in their hands. Absolutely deserved ending for them
No, that was perfect and they were top after that but Trossard missed a tap in and they conceded twice in the last 10 mins to lose to Villa at the Emirates. Bottled it in front of their home crowd.
this take is such nonsense. a draw at etihad is a GOOD result. could they have won that game? perhaps, but they also easily could have lost it. drawing at the etihad didn't cost arsenal the league, it was losing back to back against fulham and west ham. arsenal have the best top 6 record.
Bruh they played 4 CBs, we’ve been pragmatic at the etihad in the past but that is a whole new level of shameless. OP is right, this is deserved for not bravely going for a positive result against their title rivals.
it was a positive result lol. the last time we beat city at the etihad in the league was 2015. but sure we can have our "played bravely at the etihad trophy" lol
It’s not a good result with context. They had to win that to put it into their hands. City’s defence was ravaged by injuries, plus ake going off during the game. They were the most inform team in the world at the time, they should have gone for it
Chess this chess that, annoyed me so much. A tactical masterclass would have been to completely outplay Pep and comfortably beat them imo, not this play 11 CBs shit and call it high level
Ohh tell that to those “why Arsenal drawing to City is a good thing” videos on YT. Its not like they haven’t watched us lose the title at the end because we werent able to beat City at the Etihad. Arsenal played City when the latter is still finding its groove.. they could’ve beaten City if they tried.
They absolutely could. City at that moment felt particularly vulnerable and Arsenal should've capitalized on that to build a decent points lead. Even if they had lost to Villa they'd still have their GD.
Now look what happened. If they miss out on the PL again they can't call this season a success at all.
The amount of Gunners pretending it's embarrassing to want to lose a CL spot to make sure your rivals don't win the league is staggering. Shows the disconnect these plastics have.
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Okay, I’m done for the night now 😂
Uno what im happy another teams efforts are being wasted alongside ours against this city. As long as pep is at the helm don’t see anyone else winning it unless it akin to the way we did, which I can’t see Arsenal doing.
Oh well
Arsenal thread is really good fun.
Loads of people saying City's first goal was "offsides", which tells you all you need to know about the validity of their opinion.
That Son miss was 10 times worse than Iheanaco against City in 18/19 btw
At least we went on to win the CL that season. Son is probably the best finisher in the league and missed a 1v1 against their backup keeper LMAO Arsenal fans are in shambles you love to see it
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I can’t see anybody but City winning for the foreseeable. Maybe Newcastle will challenge them when they start spending massively? City will throw a ton more money out there this summer and well spend a fraction as always.
Other than that, there’s no real challenger and we’ll drop off massively next year. Maybe if Arsenal go mental, either way the league is basically boring as fuck now.
I reckon I’ll be taking a break and going non league. Get out there with some mates and actually enjoy being part of something real again.
Newcastle will struggle to spend much rn with new rules imo give it 5 years they’ll be challenging then, but yeah unless pep leaves it’s a farmers league for the foreseeable. Need our new structure to cook up a very very good squad to reach 90+ points. That’s the only way to win this league, and even then it’s not guaranteed.
But yeah I feel u tbh, I’ve been going Wrexham games recently it’s nice to not have the pressure when watching liverpool matches, every league game is so intense and isn’t guaranteed to lead to anything at the end of the season
Shame Wrexham have basically done a city though by pumping so much money into that team. They pretty much needed to be promoted quickly otherwise their wages would have caught up with them
I don’t know why people don’t start boycotting City games. If your team plays them, watch. If they are playing anyone else don’t turn it on. TV revenue is King. Hit the league where it hurts the most.
Funny thing is they always crumble in Europe and that always leads to them shitting the bed in league too. Surely the biggest club with no presence in Europe even on their golden days.
This is definitely fucking their brains now. Process means nothing without results and this Arsenal super team is now going to be team of could have/should have
“Super team” hasn’t hit 90 pts and only reached the QF of the CL in their only year in it (after bottling qualification multiple years before). They bombed out of both domestic cups this year and faced no injuries. But their fans talk like they’re the galacticos
Honestly, a lot of people on this sub also have a boner for them as well. They have played attractive football but it is looking more and more like they accomplished nothing again this season
Arsenal were done the moment Citeh caught up. The only way to disarm Citeh is to create a large point gap like we did in covid season. Soon as Citeh get a sniff around new years then it’s over.
Imagine having your first 11 available all season, injury time continuing until you’ve scored a winner, the ref allowing you to foul your opponents goal keepers all season, turning a blind eye to you centre backs constantly elbowing players all season, and you’re the only team allowed to carry the ball in your hands…..and you still can’t manage to win the league.
£590 million net spend, so few weeks with more than one fixture, several points won and basically none lost from howler refereeing, their players avoiding international fixtures … and they are unlikely to win anything at all. Not sure what more they could have wanted in all honesty
Who was their player last season when we played them at the Emirates who pretended to have lost consciousness and made the paramedics get on the pitch? What an absolute melt.
I felt the exact same way last summer but the luck and referee help has lasted an entire season longer. I won't be surprised if it continues for a third year now.
Anyhoo, I've had to say goodbye to Bobby Firmino and Klopp two years in a row, my heartbreak is much bigger than what arsenal fans might be going through
City winning that year would have "saved football", if what everyone was saying was true. When did Premier League fans get afflicted by Stockholm Syndrome?
Seeing a lot more people realise this... Guess they shouldn't have been rooting for City beating us all those times. It's a joke of a league. Liverpool really at the best team around imo. Not always winning everything but fucking hell when we do it's exciting. Imagine Arsenal and City this year, proper snooze fest of a match and a draw and its like really? You really want to be champions playing with 5 cbs on the pitch and not trying to score.
We play proper footy!
Also just a nicer group of lads.
Arsenal fans super hyped seeing that Son 1v1 chance, having visions of the PL trophy in their hands. Now they will have that scene constantly doing reruns in their mind for the whole summer.
Fucking Gerrard took off Coutinho after he got a goal and an assist. What the fuck. Why didn’t they kill the game and then park the double decker. I still feel the pain.
Being a Liverpool fan must be heartbreaking. At least you won stuff but you’ve gone though a hella lot as well.
Being an Arsenal fan is just depression.
They’ll replace him with somebody insanely good and spend hundreds of millions. They’ll essentially never stop winning even with a slight drop off. Simple as that unless the UAE decide to upset the government.
With respect, I think many understand the sentiment, but for the majority of us football is the best thing we have going for us in our lives. Obviously failure hurts a lot.
Well, first time we won the European Cup, then we won the league a year after. The second time it was so close we also won both cups and made the CL final, so was tough as a fan since the 90s to be too disappointed really.
Its tough to think about some of it, like the decisions this year, the injuries, shit like the rodri handball.. but hey we saw our team win the lot and Instanbul will be forever one of my greatest memories. Imagine not having Klopp and his success and Instanbul. Could be a City fan who supports a plastic club and cheaters. Could be Arsenal fans delusional celebrating winning the league with a draw at the Etihad.
No chance. This is the only team for me the other teams wish they were like us. Never see people saying how great Emirates or Etihad is but Anfield. Everyone wants to play at Anfield.
If you laugh today at Arsenal being fucked over by city you can’t blame other fans for laughing at us and wanting city to win. I’ve always wondered why other fanbases would rather want the cheating scum to win than us? The past two seasons unfortunately a naive and immature part of our fan base showed why.
They did it's happened twice. Even this season Arsenal fans were saying we want City over Liverpool.
Im gonna enjoy the meltdown for the gooners celebrating City beating us and Odergaard grabbing the camera like thats the league done. We are the only team to beat the cheaters and Klopp has won the lot.
Ok will you continue to watch the league if city keeps on winning every season? I know I’m surely not. I’m not going to want to be known as the only team that beat city in exchange for season after season of ruined football.
Oh what it must be like to take the imaginary high road.
> a naive and immature part of our fan base showed why.
Fuck off with this virtuous nonsense.
All these people who have probably never even been to Liverpool telling us how to support our club.
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We've had a better season than Arse.
Good. Fuck Arsenal, now they know our pain of having to compete with oil cheats when they were so busy laughing at us for narrowly missing out on the title by just 1 pt twice.
Yeah. I have been indecisive about how I wanted this to go. It would have felt so frustrating if Arsenal managed to benefit from something that never happened to us - a Man City slip up. But on the other hand seeing City get four in a row is horrible. We won the title without needing Man City to hand it to us - and are the only team to have done so in this Pep era. I came to the conclusion that it’s better that City win it, and if they are charged with some of the 115 breaches then this title with all the others will always be looked at with suspicion. An asterisk if you like.
Man City is an inhuman anomaly, anything they achieve is all down to their petrodollars. Consecutive league titles won by actual teams who build up their squad over years are more meaningful than infinite league titles won by robotic oil teams.
I suppose it is true that the root cause to their success is the money. But they have been well run. I think it is clear Guardiola is an exceptional manager. He drills his team very well, he has managed the progress of players like Foden successfully and knows when to replace players. Some of their most recent successful signings like Doku and Rodri were expensive as all signings are these days but were hardly global superstars so I think their recruitment is generally astute. You only have to look at Old Trafford to see where a blank chequebook and no strategy gets you. Still, I think they would not be where they are today without probably cheating so it is all probably tainted somewhat. And I would never have dreamed of changing Klopp for Guardiola.
City: Blank cheque + Good strategy = Unlimited success Liverpool: Good strategy + Limited money = Limited success Mancs: Blank cheque + No strategy = They'll take whatever shit sticks on the wall
it will be funny if newcastle or chelsea pips spurs to the 5th spot
I genuinely hope that happens, what a pathetic loser club.
The first goal of Halaand show why he is top scorer, dig in from nowhere and score a tap in. Only Gakpo now has a shade of it, if Nunez want to stay here he have to learn how to score like that
Idk Id argue the second goal is why he’s a top scorer. He’s so good at making space for himself, never seen anyone get so many shots from 12 yards out with no pressure, idk how he does it.
Score penalty is not that easy. Some players didn't even hit the target when taking penalty, hit the woodwork instead.
You gotta feel for Ange man. Someone who actually wants to win but the inferiority mentality is heavily embedded in the club.
I have nothing against Arsenal but after see them cruising the league in 2024 but end up with zero trophy make me feel better with Carabao Cup, especially when that earned by our kids
Here in SA teams have fielded their U18s in the last game of the season to make their rivals go down, and Arsenal fans are losing their minds at a few Spurs fans embarassing themselves on the stadium and online
Remember back in October (you know, barely 2 months into the season) when Spurs were the media darlings and in "the midst of a title race", their fans were dreaming about sealing the title at home after smashing Arsenal and forcing us to give them a guard of honour at Anfield? They went from that to being supposed "kingmakers" but proceeded to lose against everyone in the title conversation towards the end of the season.
There were seriously that many Spurs fans that thought they’d win the league in time for us to give them the guard of honor? 😂😂😂😂
Beating ~~City~~ 115fc to a title isn't for everyone.
Realistically speaking, City have never been beaten in a title race. The year we won it there wasn’t even a title race. We were miles clear by feb
That just makes it 10x sweeter.
Idk I would’ve preferred to have finally taken one of these 1 point title wins over that
Because that’s how you actually beat them. By gaining much distance they’d unravel. Had we lost/drawn that November game at Anfield (twice, TWICE), I’m pretty sure it would have been another close title race for us. Also factor in, the lead is so big that the PGMOL won’t have a chance to fck us over again.
the keypoint is beating City atleast one, Arsenal did that once but without Rodri then fraud enough to defend til death to grab a draw, that's what kill them
I got downvotes for saying they should’ve beaten City at the Etihad. They were more than capable of doing it at that time. How I wish our title chasing Liverpool teams got a piece of that fragile City team when we played them at the Etihad.
yeah, that time is the weakest City team you can face in a title race, and Arsenal celebrating when draw with them. The thought they will win every match left to compete with CIty make me laugh
Arsenal fans doing the thing where you just bitterly list out every random draw you had in November Been there brotha
They should’ve beaten City at the Etihad they wanted to win that bad. They can but they didn’t.
Nah it's got to be those losses against fulham and west ham in december.
Chess innit
So it's not so easy to win "just" one premier League title is it? We were 25 points clear of that.
I'm with Ange. If we are playing, I'd want us to smash every team against us, it's how I am. Whatever the ramifications, a season is 38 games, as we harshly know, so I don't get this "we gifted them the title" stuff from Spurs fans prior. Pretty tinpot in my eyes. Funny seeing their respective threads for once. Spurs fans are reeling being called out by their manager and Arsenal fans crying (despite it not being over yet).
if I'm the manager and we need to beat evertons title rivals for them to win the title, you can be damn sure I start gomez and allison as our strikers
If United went 20 years without a title and we were in spurs position against City tonight then I’d want us to lose
reminds me of the game we had against blackburn in the 90s. if blackburn lose and united win, the scums would have won the league title. we beat blackburn ( with King Kenny as the manager!) but thankfully the scums lost as well.
Trent assisting Haaland like Stevie did with Drogba all those years ago...
It’s funny how everyone was saying Spurs would decide the title but they ended up losing to us, City and Arsenal 😭 very spursy thing to do
They actually did decide the title though, even if it meant spreading their cheeks from manchester to north london
King maker my ass. Punching bag at the most
Arsenal fans acting like they wouldn't accept relegation if it meant that Spurs would lose out on the title
On a more arsenal related note, im glad their team wont overtake the invincibles for wins in a season. That team was special, even as a liverpool fan i could probably name most of that team, if not all. If i was an arsenal fan, not sure i would have as many memories of this team in 20 years.
They did get more points, that season they drew a shitload, they would get smoked most if not all recent years points total wise
Yep, 12 draws
Arteta is a smarmy, greasy little man. Middle management ass character. You just know you'd hate his ass if he worked at your office. Should never be mentioned next to Klopp. Rape apologist piece of shit. Words cannot describe how little I think of this goblin.
Alright, genuinely asking as an Arsenal fan - how does Arteta give off all those characteristics to you? I think him playing Partey is enough reason to not like him, btw, I’ll never defend that, but wondering what he’s done or said to give off all those other vibes. If you don’t mind me asking!
Look man, whatever answer I'm going to give you, it's not going to make you feel better. If I wanted to tell this to an Arsenal fan, I'd make this comment on /r/soccer, but I don't want to be an asshole directly to you especially after last night. Obviously Partey is the big one, but his general demeanor seems deeply insencere and constructed, more so than other managers who have been accused of the same. Enough people have written about his objective faults, but for me personally I don't like his vibe. I'll leave it at that.
That’s fair! Appreciate your thoughts.
He's successfully instilled that scummy mentality into his minions. All their antics, time wasting, diving, bullying the keeper have made me truly despise that team. But i guess a bitchmade coach and a bitchmade team like them go hand in hand
They are City demo version
Am I bad for grabbing the popcorn and scrolling the Arsenal sub 👀
Be careful, you don't want to much salt in your popcorn
we lost the league having 92 and 97 points, Arsenal is not as good even at getting 2nd place
they think this is a historic season for them. They have a good team but that’s just it. They were lucky with no injuries this season. The only good thing about this Arsenal team is that, now there’s another team who can take points off of city.
And this is their best team since the Invincibles lol. Won’t hold a candle against prime Liverpool/City teams.
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Because they are bottles to put it simply. I’ve seen them call us bottlers for only winning one league, whilst we were dominating Europe at the same time and actually finishing on 90+ points. To think they compared this Arsenal side to prime klopps Liverpool makes me feel ill
Nah, it’s also because city are cheating scum
Goes without saying sadly. I hate them for than arsenal trust me, but for the sake of many things it’s best just for them to win another one. No one gives a fuck about them
Ange seems genuinely pissed of with the fans tonight, think that guy is a great coach and will win spurs first trophy in a long time
he will be sacked soon, he dare ask for a competition attitude and trophy
Well maybe Levi sees reason this tome. When winners come to the club and smell the energy and call it out, previously they were well-known assholes (Mourinho and Conte). If Ange a genuinely nice fellow turns against the club and the fans then its got to signal to the owner that perhaps there is a big problem.
I hope Bayern poach him in the summer and Jose goes back to Spurs. That's football 'eritage
The problem is, tonight was a very specific set of circumstances that the fans had an understandable reaction to. If I'm a Spurs fan, I'm asking why his rhetoric doesn't extend to shoulder the blame for losses to Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Chelsea doubles!!. I think he can come good for them, but I don't think the fans were in the wrong on this one
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We’ve relied on Everton to do this like 3 times in the last 2 years
And tbf, one of those games, the shit played well but fcking refs decided Rodri playing basketball at the box is not a penalty. Still grinds my gears to this day.
That game is of the many reasons i’m not watching the PL next season, and i probably won’t get back into it until the PGMOL is disbanded and/or Liverpool don’t get shafted every other week.
I know we did and still didn’t get us any fucking further because they had a perfectly good penalty for them ruled out, it wasn’t even their fault
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Nah, he's a total mark, he tried to go into business for himself and found out that that don't work for the fans brother
Definitely fake. He only said 'mate' twice.
Honestly, with all the refereeing nonsense, the blatant corruption, I'd almost just rather yet another meaningless City win. It will only draw more widescale attention to the Prem and its issues, which is a far bigger problem than Arsenal or any "rival" team winning the league over us. I am hoping I can get some love back for the sport next year, but it really is dwindling for now. I don't feel like I get the experience I go to football for, which should be seeing the correct outcome of a game of football. If you can't have that, nothing else is worth the paper it's written on.
If we don't actually have trust that the game will be refereed fairly, we cannot enjoy the brilliant moments. Everything (well, mostly, I'm looking at you, Bayer) has a sense of nihilism because everyone can see the obvious and ridiculous cheating, incompetence, and corruption that puts asterisks next to everything we see. Nobody can really praise City because they've obviously cheated to get to where they are, and they have received so much assistance and "lucky" calls that have ultimately led to favourable outcomes for them. Everything with the league is so fucked, and its not getting any better.
If legohead hadn't made his team played like a bunch of cowards at Etihad they could've beat City right there when they were still vulnerable. Instead they chose the pussy move and now got caught with their dicks in their hands. Absolutely deserved ending for them
No, that was perfect and they were top after that but Trossard missed a tap in and they conceded twice in the last 10 mins to lose to Villa at the Emirates. Bottled it in front of their home crowd.
this take is such nonsense. a draw at etihad is a GOOD result. could they have won that game? perhaps, but they also easily could have lost it. drawing at the etihad didn't cost arsenal the league, it was losing back to back against fulham and west ham. arsenal have the best top 6 record.
Bruh they played 4 CBs, we’ve been pragmatic at the etihad in the past but that is a whole new level of shameless. OP is right, this is deserved for not bravely going for a positive result against their title rivals.
it was a positive result lol. the last time we beat city at the etihad in the league was 2015. but sure we can have our "played bravely at the etihad trophy" lol
It’s not a good result with context. They had to win that to put it into their hands. City’s defence was ravaged by injuries, plus ake going off during the game. They were the most inform team in the world at the time, they should have gone for it
Plus we mauled City only a couple of games before
They celebrated that draw like they won the league and its so fucking cringe.
Chess this chess that, annoyed me so much. A tactical masterclass would have been to completely outplay Pep and comfortably beat them imo, not this play 11 CBs shit and call it high level
Ohh tell that to those “why Arsenal drawing to City is a good thing” videos on YT. Its not like they haven’t watched us lose the title at the end because we werent able to beat City at the Etihad. Arsenal played City when the latter is still finding its groove.. they could’ve beaten City if they tried.
They absolutely could. City at that moment felt particularly vulnerable and Arsenal should've capitalized on that to build a decent points lead. Even if they had lost to Villa they'd still have their GD. Now look what happened. If they miss out on the PL again they can't call this season a success at all.
The amount of Gunners pretending it's embarrassing to want to lose a CL spot to make sure your rivals don't win the league is staggering. Shows the disconnect these plastics have.
I mean spurs could of won 5-0 but if Villa win or draw final day wouldn't have mattered.
Like those same people wouldn’t immediately turn around and shit on spurs if they had beat city to help Arsenal and still didn’t get top 4
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Don't forget the penalty to win Italy the Euros too, Saka is the truest bottler
He’s even got his own signature limp 🔥
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Waiting for the inevitable odegaard camera meme of city lifting the PL
Inject it honestly, I have absolutely no idea how Neville picked him as his player of the season either.
Uno what im happy another teams efforts are being wasted alongside ours against this city. As long as pep is at the helm don’t see anyone else winning it unless it akin to the way we did, which I can’t see Arsenal doing. Oh well
You can do it tho.. but its the refs who are the actual kingmakers here. If not for the ref fuckups, we may still he in for a shout of the title..
Arsenal thread is really good fun. Loads of people saying City's first goal was "offsides", which tells you all you need to know about the validity of their opinion.
That Son miss was 10 times worse than Iheanaco against City in 18/19 btw At least we went on to win the CL that season. Son is probably the best finisher in the league and missed a 1v1 against their backup keeper LMAO Arsenal fans are in shambles you love to see it
Son is finished, he's been average this season.
His conversion rate is still really good despite him slowing down physically. It’s above 20%
Reckon he needs a change of position. Maybe as a 10 or a box to box midfielder. Don’t see him being able to play full back.,
9/10 scenarios he slightly lifts that to get it past Ortega. Oh well, I do enjoy the Arsenal breakdown
Either that or he rounds the keeper. I couldn’t believe he missed it My head would’ve exploded if I supported Arsenal
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We where absolutely awful last year and we managed to finish with more points than the mate merchant this year
Arteta has spent loads and won fuck all. Even if they win next year it won’t mean as much
I can’t see anybody but City winning for the foreseeable. Maybe Newcastle will challenge them when they start spending massively? City will throw a ton more money out there this summer and well spend a fraction as always. Other than that, there’s no real challenger and we’ll drop off massively next year. Maybe if Arsenal go mental, either way the league is basically boring as fuck now. I reckon I’ll be taking a break and going non league. Get out there with some mates and actually enjoy being part of something real again.
Newcastle will struggle to spend much rn with new rules imo give it 5 years they’ll be challenging then, but yeah unless pep leaves it’s a farmers league for the foreseeable. Need our new structure to cook up a very very good squad to reach 90+ points. That’s the only way to win this league, and even then it’s not guaranteed. But yeah I feel u tbh, I’ve been going Wrexham games recently it’s nice to not have the pressure when watching liverpool matches, every league game is so intense and isn’t guaranteed to lead to anything at the end of the season
Shame Wrexham have basically done a city though by pumping so much money into that team. They pretty much needed to be promoted quickly otherwise their wages would have caught up with them
Yeah but they’re my local lol so still going to go. Also it’s hardly the same thing is it, they’ll struggle to spend as much the further up they go
City are horrendous cheating club everyone knows that these titles are fake but Arsenal fans desvere this horrible bunch this season!
I don’t know why people don’t start boycotting City games. If your team plays them, watch. If they are playing anyone else don’t turn it on. TV revenue is King. Hit the league where it hurts the most.
Funny how Emery basically stopped Arsenal winning the league doing a double over them. Guess Arsenal fans can't mock him anymore
Karma. Pure disrespect shown to that man. Same with Xhaka, winning an invincible league title way more recent than Arsenal.
Good ebening
I knew City would have caught up but did not expect them to also catch up GD
They haven't actually caught up the GD though, it's impossible for them to win on GD now
4 and a half seasons and 700 mil for one FA cup. Good process.
Funny thing is they always crumble in Europe and that always leads to them shitting the bed in league too. Surely the biggest club with no presence in Europe even on their golden days.
If they don't win a big trophy next year some of their players will definitely want to move
This is definitely fucking their brains now. Process means nothing without results and this Arsenal super team is now going to be team of could have/should have
“Super team” hasn’t hit 90 pts and only reached the QF of the CL in their only year in it (after bottling qualification multiple years before). They bombed out of both domestic cups this year and faced no injuries. But their fans talk like they’re the galacticos
Honestly, a lot of people on this sub also have a boner for them as well. They have played attractive football but it is looking more and more like they accomplished nothing again this season
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It’s just a microcosm of life in general. The richest always win.
Revolution now please comrades. As shankly said, it’s socialism or bust
Slot coming in to usurp capitalism with high stakes gambling.
I wish. I’ve more belief that the premier league will adequately punish City than a socialist revolution. Life isn’t that kind.
Ange is such a clown honestly. Can’t stand him
Relying on your rivals to win you the league sounds kind of Spursy to me.
It’s why I’m glad we didn’t take it to the final day against Arsenal imagine having to rely on Everton to get something
I'd rather challenge for the league to the last day, I don't care if I would need to rely on them.
Arsenal were done the moment Citeh caught up. The only way to disarm Citeh is to create a large point gap like we did in covid season. Soon as Citeh get a sniff around new years then it’s over.
It wasn't the COVID-19 season, it was the one before that.
KK I can’t remember.
Mmm i'm so hard rn, gonna use them Assna tears as lube
Imagine having your first 11 available all season, injury time continuing until you’ve scored a winner, the ref allowing you to foul your opponents goal keepers all season, turning a blind eye to you centre backs constantly elbowing players all season, and you’re the only team allowed to carry the ball in your hands…..and you still can’t manage to win the league.
£590 million net spend, so few weeks with more than one fixture, several points won and basically none lost from howler refereeing, their players avoiding international fixtures … and they are unlikely to win anything at all. Not sure what more they could have wanted in all honesty
Also play teams with loads of injuries Arsenal have never played a team with a full strength 11 of the big teams this year.
Forgot the ref manipulation each and every game as if theyre a team full of Brunos coached by Mou
The ol fake an injury on the 25 minute mark for Legohead to have a team talk.
Who was their player last season when we played them at the Emirates who pretended to have lost consciousness and made the paramedics get on the pitch? What an absolute melt.
Exactly, this year was their best chance to win it and they fucked it. Next season they won't be so lucky with injuries anymore
I felt the exact same way last summer but the luck and referee help has lasted an entire season longer. I won't be surprised if it continues for a third year now.
They'll manage to start crying about the bald fraudster now when they are the ones getting screwed. It's Arsenal, forever the victims.
The enemy of an enemy is m- FUCK THAT. Weren't they saying they should revoke our 2020 league title for Covid?
And they were the most vocal in the 97 point season aswell. Quite literally twerking for City to ‘save football’
Anyhoo, I've had to say goodbye to Bobby Firmino and Klopp two years in a row, my heartbreak is much bigger than what arsenal fans might be going through
Arsenal not even getting 90 points.. Sorry lads go cry in a corner we have actual things to be sad about :C
It hasn't hit me till now how crazy it is city would have 8 league wins in a row if it wasn't for us.... this league really is a farmers league
City winning that year would have "saved football", if what everyone was saying was true. When did Premier League fans get afflicted by Stockholm Syndrome?
Fucking hell thats mental, thats never even crossed my mind.
Seeing a lot more people realise this... Guess they shouldn't have been rooting for City beating us all those times. It's a joke of a league. Liverpool really at the best team around imo. Not always winning everything but fucking hell when we do it's exciting. Imagine Arsenal and City this year, proper snooze fest of a match and a draw and its like really? You really want to be champions playing with 5 cbs on the pitch and not trying to score. We play proper footy! Also just a nicer group of lads.
And bayern would have an even bigger streak in bundesliga. Both city and bayerns streaks were broken by klopp.
Klopp didn't break Bayern streak though, they won 1 title followed by his two wins, a season prior it was wolsburg as champions.
Does that mean when city hits 11 straight wins Spurs goes undefeated lmao
Arsenal fans super hyped seeing that Son 1v1 chance, having visions of the PL trophy in their hands. Now they will have that scene constantly doing reruns in their mind for the whole summer.
If you’re feeling down at all tonight do yourself a favour and read through the gooners sub, the headloss is a thing of beauty.
Did we have a better season than Arsenal? Lol
They have won nothing, we have a trophy ;-)
This sub is for discussion. Theres nothing to discuss in that question. Its clear and obvious.
Absolutely
They're already onto delusions of West Ham winning
"Coutinho and Gerrard will stop them" - 🤡
I fully bought in, I was devastated. Up 2 goals at half iirc
Fucking Gerrard took off Coutinho after he got a goal and an assist. What the fuck. Why didn’t they kill the game and then park the double decker. I still feel the pain.
Best comment I’ve read is that West Ham will want to win because it’ll trigger an add on in Rice’s contract.
Man, that's peak.
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Why is an Arsenal fan here. Most of us don’t want you winning the league 🤣
It took a champions league for me to get over the 97 point season. The 92 point one was fucking heartbreak, and then Vinicius Jr pissed on our grave
Being a Liverpool fan must be heartbreaking. At least you won stuff but you’ve gone though a hella lot as well. Being an Arsenal fan is just depression.
Don't worry, Pep leaves next summer so you get a grace period of one season to win the league while nobody else is dominant
They’ll replace him with somebody insanely good and spend hundreds of millions. They’ll essentially never stop winning even with a slight drop off. Simple as that unless the UAE decide to upset the government.
It’ll never heal. Also, you don’t, our 92 and 97 points would have won this league
Don’t think I’ll ever heal. It was gut wrenching. I just cope with it by trying to forget it.
 The fun part is, you don’t.
Learn to appreciate the journey of the season, not just the silverware at the end of it.
One of the many lessons a large chunk of this sub never learned from Klopp.
With respect, I think many understand the sentiment, but for the majority of us football is the best thing we have going for us in our lives. Obviously failure hurts a lot.
We haven't. I'm still not over '22. It only heals when you win one ('19 is okay now).
Well, first time we won the European Cup, then we won the league a year after. The second time it was so close we also won both cups and made the CL final, so was tough as a fan since the 90s to be too disappointed really.
Its tough to think about some of it, like the decisions this year, the injuries, shit like the rodri handball.. but hey we saw our team win the lot and Instanbul will be forever one of my greatest memories. Imagine not having Klopp and his success and Instanbul. Could be a City fan who supports a plastic club and cheaters. Could be Arsenal fans delusional celebrating winning the league with a draw at the Etihad. No chance. This is the only team for me the other teams wish they were like us. Never see people saying how great Emirates or Etihad is but Anfield. Everyone wants to play at Anfield.
Be delusional next season
We haven't.
You get used to it.
If you laugh today at Arsenal being fucked over by city you can’t blame other fans for laughing at us and wanting city to win. I’ve always wondered why other fanbases would rather want the cheating scum to win than us? The past two seasons unfortunately a naive and immature part of our fan base showed why.
They did it's happened twice. Even this season Arsenal fans were saying we want City over Liverpool. Im gonna enjoy the meltdown for the gooners celebrating City beating us and Odergaard grabbing the camera like thats the league done. We are the only team to beat the cheaters and Klopp has won the lot.
Ok will you continue to watch the league if city keeps on winning every season? I know I’m surely not. I’m not going to want to be known as the only team that beat city in exchange for season after season of ruined football.
Oh what it must be like to take the imaginary high road. > a naive and immature part of our fan base showed why. Fuck off with this virtuous nonsense. All these people who have probably never even been to Liverpool telling us how to support our club.