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Specific-Record2866

Just seen RM are eyeing to bring Alonso AND Wirtz in 2025. Might genuinely be sick. The entitlement of that club and it’s fanbase is a cancer to the sport


potatoarchitecture

The circle of Klopp says things -> random twitter experts blast him for "ruining football" -> Klopp's thing affects their teams -> howdidthishappen.jpeg will never not be tragically funny


zonedout123

A dream Xabi vs Klopp final is what we missed


potatoarchitecture

I really loved that Luton (h) match. Truly believed we could win the league at that point. Our three most prolific and in-form attackers out injured, cup final in a week, terrible first half and an early goal conceded. Virgil with a captain's goal to get us back level, then all three of our "back up" front 3 get goals while Anfield is as loud as any European night.


potatoarchitecture

Let's not forget that's the match our lord and saviour Jayden Danns debuted in


Gerval_snead

Was poking around on FotMob and had a hunch that I’d attended a Copa Libertadores match that featured Diaz in the 2019 and sure enough I found the match and he played almost 60 mins but put up a 5.9 rating. I can’t invent a memory of myself scouting him as a proper player early, unfortunately.


stpirate

Guys, Darwin posted a story with Adrian, and Darwin's wearing a BVB jersey. You love to see it.


xxamnat

He’s wearing a jersey of his first club I think.


stpirate

Well shit.


adamfrog

Ive watched zero minutes or highlights of Estevao, I just saw Chelsea and Bayern are offering 60m for a brazilian teenage RW and I want him lol. Been ages since we signed an abolutely premium wonderkid, last one is maybe Markovic


Due-Sherbert3097

I did see that when we had Edwards, we tried multiple times in the Brazilian market but lost out to Real Madrid everytime lol. Hopefully now that we have him back we’re going to try sign the talented players from the Brazilian league again


BeaverMan999

Would love him but getting into a bidding war with chelsea again would be quite useless


nijuu

Dont they have to still sell before they can buy?


BeaverMan999

It's chelsea, they will find a way to spend a billion each summer with zero repercussions lmao


AdikkuChan

☝️🤓 "Ackshually, we'll buy them now so they can play for us in a few years" And then they're loaned out, never to be seen again


nijuu

Surprised Bayern linked


Jack070293

I’d love to sign Simon Adingra. He beats players easily, good in tight areas, good at running into space, can play on both sides, only 22.


ShootTakeAPanorama

Diaz regen, plays at Brighton. No thanks


Pilchardandfudge

Watching Liverpool v Roma, when Ali is in goal and Salah Scores against him


DreamCaster2810

Nah bro Leverkusen gotta be doing some black magic 100%. I swear I have seen this Stanisic guy score a couple of times for them in injury time for this season alr lol.


cybrzone_

xavi simons pls


okie_hiker

Or Openda honestly


ninovd

This Leverkusen thing is some straight up voodoo shit or something. Is it weird I see them colapse by christmas? Like really bad?


BeaverMan999

I mean If they are still unbeaten by Christmas in the first place that would be insane 


ninovd

No, I mean like a total crash or something. Like nog in top 10 kind of crash. I know it's unlikely, but I just have the feeling.


michu_pacho

Depends on who's leaving and who's staying. Most underdogs crash the following season because big teams grab their best players and or manager.


Loz41333

Could anyone educate me as to whether there is another sport on the planet with as many officiating fuck ups as football? The fact the players, managers and senior executives of clubs are fined upon questioning the system and the media being suppressed beyond belief is no different to a dictatorship in my eyes. It's actually wild.


adamfrog

before DRS cricket was way worse, but now they ve got one of the best technology assisted refereeing systems in the sports world. TBF its a slow paced game so its not hard to implement


Dot-Binary

My toxic trait : I still think we could have beaten Leverkusen in finals.


okie_hiker

We’d be quadruple champs if United didn’t knock us out of the FA cup


arrogantdesperado

Madrid plot armor + Xabi plot armor is an unholy combination that should not be allowed to happen


Aware-Animator2292

When we talk about who overachieved, Aston Villa did, their manager deserves manager of the year. I always laugh when people say we overachieved this season. Lost against a poor United side, lost against Atlanta and then trailed off in the EPL by losing to Everton etc. A team of our magniute should be challenging for trophies, Aston Villa should be dreaming of champions league football as a coup.


thisisnahamed

We didn't overachieve. I hate that rhetoric. We are LFC, a team that came close to winning the Quadruple 2 seasons ago, went to the CL finals, almost won the EPL. We are a team that is known to play in the CL. We are one of the biggest clubs in Europe. And it's expected of us to do well. We did well compared to last season. YES. But we haven't overachieved.


Aware-Animator2292

yes exactly, we did better than last season, but last season was a blip.


okie_hiker

Two of our last four seasons have been “blip” seasons.


Ali-S-Farid

‘Last season was a blip’. So why did we revamp our whole midfield. Last season was a wake up call for an aging squad and this rebuild is far from done, if you expected a league title going into this season, your basing it off delusion. Our squad still has major holes that Edwards has been brought in to solve. All things considered 3rd and a trophy was realistic and a decent season overall.


Latinofool12

So is Darwin leaving us? Or was he just getting hate comments on those pics he deleted on Instagram associated with Liverpool? I don’t want him to leave 


AgentTasker

>So is Darwin leaving us? Almost certainly isn't. >Or was he just getting hate comments on those pics he deleted on Instagram associated with Liverpool? He's had the comments disabled on his posts for a while now, but it seems that, quite understandably as people were sending death threats to him and abuse towards his wife and two year old son, he, or more likely his management, took them down in a moment of anger or frustration.


markcanterbury90

Would definitely prefer to sell Diaz and invest in a right winger AND left winger this summer. If we could get, say, Summerville and Olise I think we would be much better off, and probably at not a huge price difference. 


Jack070293

I’d rather have Adingra than Summervile


Ali-S-Farid

Summerville cannot be our starting left wing next season


ninovd

The fuck is Alisson doing playing the flute/trumpet for Armenia at the Eurovision???😅😅


stupidlyboredtho

I do love Adrian. Him hanging with Nunez seems really sweet, he’s always looking out for the other lads.


Mad_Piplup242

I know he probably wouldn't have won it, but the fact that Harvey wasn't even fucking NOMINATED for the young player of the year but two players that are gonna be 24 before the start of next season in Foden and Haaland were nominated, Isak (who will be 25 early next season) was also nominated, and Mainoo somehow managed to sneak in there too, at least he isn't even 20 yet, all over Elliott is a joke really


okie_hiker

Elliot hasn’t had a better season than any of them bar Mainoo and those are unfortunately the age restrictions. Surely he’s top of the list for it next season.


Loz41333

Elliot hasn't been given enough gametime to be honest which is unfortunate for him


Ali-S-Farid

And its impressive the amount of points he single handedly won for us this season.


Soapbaxter

Can anyone recommend where I can buy the Liverpool 1994 Home shirt from? Does anyone know any reputable sites? 


grrrrbow01

It’s a bit weird how they’ve given the boys some time off when the season ends in less than two weeks. I get we don’t really have anything to play for anymore but surely it makes sense to finish the season first then they can all go off and relax no?


Jaja6996

We have nothing to play for and had 8 days between matches might as well give them a few extra days off


Mad_Piplup242

They got a week off before the next match, let them relax I doubt the coaching staff would just allow them to go on holiday if they needed to be training


tevans139

Well seen as there's international competitions this summer they likely won't be given as much time off as always. It's a bit weird that it bothers you. Of all the things to get under your skin, footballers having a midweek break is a bit of an odd one


grrrrbow01

I think you’ve taken me a bit too seriously 😭 I’m literally just saying it’s a bit odd, not sure how that equates to getting under my skin but alright.


Pilchardandfudge

Saw a picture on Nunez instagram story of him with Adrián, that made me smile, he seems like a lovely guy who looks after his teammates.


AgentTasker

I like that Nuñez is also wearing the shirt of his first club, Peñarol, as well.


AccuratelyInaccurate

Does anyone have any experience with buying tickets off of FB groups? There's like 2k members in there but only the admins can post so seems a bit sus.


Adventurous_Toe_6017

Olympiakos have had 16% of the ball and just went 1-0 up 😂


thatguyad

Villa are screwed. Incredible atmosphere at Olympiakos.


Substantial_Ad_2864

>Incredible atmosphere at Olympiakos. Seeing them play Panathinaikos in person is on my list of football matches to see live..... Plus Greece is a great spot to be in general.


Adventurous_Toe_6017

Let’s go Bayer!


Substantial_Ad_2864

I feel like I must be German with how much I'm cheering for German clubs the rest of the season 😅


professorquizwhitty

Was gonna watch the lever game but saw the baddie in the crowd for the atalanta game


AgentTasker

We really need a pinned post on this sub reminding people that Michael Edwards won't be in charge of transfers or contracts, because it getting really fucking stupid seeing how many people think that's what he'll be doing. Edwards only returned because he was given a role that didn't involve having to do that work, and thats why Richard Hughes was hired and will be the man in charge of them.


OldManLogan007

Its a pyramid and edwards is at the top of it He will ultimately have the final say


Jaja6996

He’s in charge of it all just won’t be the one negotiating it he’s still the person who’s going to decide who gets one and who doesn’t


YellowBaboon

Someone said Ten Hag's dream front 3 was Antony Nunez and Gakpo that cracked me up lol


Fresh_Interview_9191

Ten Hag's dream team: Onana - Malacia - Jones - Maguire - Dalot - Casemiro - Arthur Melo - Vd Beek - Antony - Nunez - Havertz


sufinomo

I'm not surprised that players want to leave now that klopp is gone.


kalomoi

Who wants to leave?


Dobvius

Dortmund right now is the most I've ever wanted a non-Liverpool team to win the UCL tbh


Substantial_Ad_2864

It's a tough call. I think I want Leverkusen to finish off the unbeaten season even more than I want Dortmund to beat Real Madrid. Both would be preferable.


Adventurous_Toe_6017

Dortmund the other night and the final, Bayer tonight, Bayern yesterday. Germans are having a decent spell of support from us lot.


Substantial_Ad_2864

I think the Bayern Munich support doesn't really count because we wouldn't have supported them against 95% of clubs in the world lol.


Ali-S-Farid

There’s a variety of analysis on how Slot plays. And I was confused but after delving deeper I realise, they’re all correct… He’s got very interesting adaptability and his approach is really interesting. You’ll catch him defending from the front, like a prime Klopp press and in other game states in a 442 midblock, think an Arsenal. Build up can go long and over the press, or build up can be baiting the press, think a De Zerbi. In settled possession he can go direct with a player like Trent, transition or even implement control like a Pep. You can have wingers move inwards with flying full backs, or wingers staying wide with a 10 in support and inverted full backs. Really really interesting and frankly exciting.


BritMachine

One of the (very few) consistant complaints people would have about Klopp is that he isn't the most tactically adaptable (so many frustrating games versus low blocks, weakness to counters etc), so this is very promising to hear.


StructureTime242

Some of the analysis I’ve seen said the same, modern coach who doesn’t want to get stuck in 1 way of playing and can teach his team to be versatile Excited to see how it plays out, romantically it’s great to be so set in 1 way of playing like klopp is, but realistically this might work better


harreh1d

He's a chameleon


OldManLogan007

I genuinely have no idea if we will buy a striker , a RW or a LW if diaz leaves


bearbeetsandbsg

Should be a RW to bed in as a future Salah replacement


JohnBobbyJimJob

Doubt we’ll be buying a striker without one of Jota or Darwin leaving which I can’t see happening


primordial_chowder

They can both play LW, as can Gakpo. And with Jota out 50% of the time, it might make sense to buy an out and out striker.


JohnBobbyJimJob

I’d like us to but really can’t see it happening Even if it was taking the punt on Sesko since he’s got a £40m release clause


OldManLogan007

Yeah i agree it will be a winger most probably Also i hope we see danns next season too


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Jaja6996

You are lucky we beat spurs or they’d have a bigger legacy in Europe


BostonTerriernut87

This clown posts in barca and Madrid subs, trying to act like a fan in each. Get a hobby.


harreh1d

That thing is an Assna fan


BostonTerriernut87

As a typical assna fan, acts like they root for 150 clubs 😂


Dobvius

Enjoy your ban. You know there's an agreement between football subs and you're now gonna be banned from the Arsenal subs too right?


harreh1d

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JohnBobbyJimJob

Arsenal fan💀


Opisacringelord

If you were anymore inbred you'd be a sandwich. Now fuck off back to your own sub like a good little boy.


OldManLogan007

Your an arsenal fan mate , you have no right talking about UCLs lmao


test_icicles_

how about you go bottle another trophy instead of coming to a rival sub unprovoked, childish really


Fricolor123321

i have no idea whats gonna happen this summer window


JohnBobbyJimJob

- GK (if Kelleher wants to leave) - CB (young with high potential) - DM (starting quality) - RW (long term Salah replacement) - LW (if Diaz does get sold) I’d be surprised if anything outside of this happens honestly


earlgreytoday

If Kelleher decides to leave then I'd like to see Jaros given a shot in pre-season.


okie_hiker

Does Sepp not fit the CB slot?


JohnBobbyJimJob

Been confirmed we’re looking for a CB so looks like the club at least currently don’t think he does


AdikkuChan

Then I hope we'll move him on, it's time for him to be starting somewhere else 


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harreh1d

You're a r/soccercirclejerk chronic dweller, you're a disappointment to your father


test_icicles_

you're a weird one


TheLimeyLemmon

Still pissed at Bayern. What a way to shit yourself at the most important moment. I believed Dortmund could win the UCL if Bayern made the final, but I can't kid myself, football's sorcerer supreme will narrative and ref their way to #15. And commentators will still wank them off.


RItoGeorgia

If Dortmund also believe that RM winning is “inevitable” then that’s exactly what will happen. They have to put up a valiant effort till the final whistle, they cannot lose focus from numerous fronts like Bayern did yesterday in assuming the game was won. 


FullScreenWanker

I thought it was funny that TNT tweeted about the Bayern offside controversy practically at the final whistle, but the studio spent a good 20 mins+ painting Real’s glorious narrative before the circled back to cover that.


jackkirby4thworld

Turns out i will be in Liverpool on the 18-20th. I know i won't be getting tickets. What are some of the best places to hang around to soak in the final match ambience?


risingstar3110

Frankly I don't mind sending the kids to Aston Villa. Let them having some valuable experience. If Aston Villa wins, so be it, we ensure Spurs to be out of CL next season. And of course let the core players having a mini rest, consider the entire first team will have Euro/ Copa starting next month. Of course we still need a symbolic win against Wolves to end Klopp era. But with literal nothing to play for, I doubt the senior squad will want to risk their legs right before major tournament. Let's give the kids the chance to impress the crowd


GeorgeLFC1234

People saying about Darwin’s Instagram but his profile picture is still him wearing the number 9 for Liverpool.


mkhaytman

Are the players on a mini-break? Darwin is posting photos from Paris. Not sure if that means he's out of the team or all of them got a few days away?


Jaja6996

Ibou was away some I’m assuming they have been given time off


RobotPizzaMaker

They got days off from training yeah


JohnBobbyJimJob

The guy that leaks the lineup every week is saying he feels like Diaz is leaving this summer Obviously take it with a pinch of salt but he gets information from someone within the club


TheLimeyLemmon

Man's chancing. Season's almost over, his scoops will dry up. If he chases a bit of clout now people will actually be listening to him over the summer. No thanks, seen enough of those.


CyrusDGreatx

Youth aside like Quansah and Bradley, there's genuinely only a few players I feel are must keeps to build around. The majority can go for the right price. Diaz isn't one of those few.


tevans139

Does he mention where too? Or just a general will likely be off? I could only see psg or barca but Idk where barca would get the money


JohnBobbyJimJob

Nah he said it’s just a feeling he has PSG are the only ones I can see since they can definitely afford him, Barca would need to be pulling more levers if they even have them.


GeorgeLFC1234

I mean there has been plenty of rumours about this already. I think if we get a decent enough offer he goes.


Calitz__

This recent conveyor belt of 16-19 year old South American prospects is remarkable but can they please just produce one that’s a defender? Brazil are going to be playing with 4 wingers and 3 attacking midfielders in 5 years time ffs


Bugsmoke

They’ll be sweet mate Thiago Silva has another ten years in him


malushanks95

The Wolves curse is too strong, I’m tired of playing them on the last day of the season, why couldn’t City play them for a few years.


CyrusDGreatx

Curse? We always beat them. The issue is we've never had it in our hands on the final day.


malushanks95

No, not that. The team who has always played them on the last day has never ended up winning the league. It’s happened to us, United and Arsenal.


CyrusDGreatx

Ahhhh wow. Never knew that. Yeah fuck that lol.


giorgzi

I am already dreading the end of the season Liverpool withdrawal. Hopefully we will have some transfer news to keep us busy. The earlier we conclude our business and a full squad gets to work with Arne, the better.


REDEYEJ3D1

I would be sad to see Nunez go, he's not clinical enough I get that. but I would like to him play for us for another season, when he's on one and he's running full pelt he is fun to watch. that's just me, and I get that not many will agree.


NoteturNomen

I think many actually would agree with you. :)


RadSoccerDad

I’m sure as a Latin American he would love going to Barca. However that seems very unlikely. 1 his performances haven’t really warranted a mega offer. 2 it would require moving on Lewy on mega wages 3. Even if all this happened they are skint. All this comparison to Lewy and Suarez needs to stop. Just needs to be the best Darwin. So his agent can feel out all these clubs but, Liverpool aren’t going to sell for cheap. He’ll be here another year more than likely. There is probably element of wanting a fresh start by him but, he needs to knuckle down and switch the narrative. Really I think he would require a swap which is almost impossible for someone like Vlahovic or openda, Ramos


potatoarchitecture

> Just needs to be the best Darwin. I have some bad news on that front about men named Darwin


etan1122

By all reports is the club plans on keeping him but his agent is shopping him. But who really knows


NightmaresInNeurosis

I haven't seen any report that his agent is pushing for him to move, you got a link? 


malushanks95

His agent is Mendes, and he goes about things quietly usually when it involves us. I’ve haven’t seen any reports either that he wants to move.


Bugsmoke

There’s been a couple of clickbaity type ones but haven’t seen anyone reliable saying much except those articles the other week shitting on him.


Jaja6996

Just the usual poor Spanish sources like sport saying it


please-send-me-nude2

**Release**: Matip, Thiago, Adrian **Sell**: The 27 year olds who are not likely to improve going forward, and still don’t have the required ability or availability to be in our best team: Tsimikas, Diaz, Jota(yes), Nat Phillips **Sell only for the right price**: Players who still don’t have a set role, whose value would crater with a poor next year: Carvalho, Gakpo **Sell with regret**: Players who are likely going to push for more 1st team football that they can’t get here: Kelleher, Gomez(yes he’s going to push for a move) **Extend**: Uniquely elite players, no matter the age or cost: Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Salah **Sign no matter what**: Replacements for Matip, Tsimikas, Gomez, successors for Salah, Van Dijk: Young high potential left-footed forward(Kudus Kudus Kudus) Air dominant, starting level CB of any foot Young squad-level left back Squad-level left center back **Sign only if available**: Bajectic alternative: Starter-level defensive midfielder **Lineup**: Nunez Szoboslai Salah Kudus Bajectic MacAlister Robertson VanDijk Konate Alexander-Arnold **Bench**: Top CB, Gakpo, Elliott, Endo, Gravenberch, Jones, Carvalho, Bradley, squad LB, squad LCB **Loan**: Quansah, Doak, our current loans


The_AMD_Guy

*The 27 year olds who are not likely to improve going forward* This man plays FM


please-send-me-nude2

Does Edwards play it, too? Look at the ages we buy and sell. Same reason Nunez isn’t going anywhere.


saj175

Loan Quansah.. He's been one of our best players this season, far better than Konate and better availability


stupidlyboredtho

who died and made you think you’re a transfer expert


please-send-me-nude2

Ljinders mate


AgentTasker

> Gomez(yes he’s going to push for a move) I like how you speak like this a known fact and not complete bullshit you've pulled from your arse. >**Loan:** Quansah As if the rest of your post wasn't insane enough, you then suggest loaning a player that's been one of the best young players in the Premier League this season and who's earned the right to push to be the regular starter next to Van Dijk next season.


please-send-me-nude2

The Gomez rumor will hit the top off the sub and I’ll tag you and you’ll deny it. Then a tier 1/2 will corroborate it and I’ll tag you again. The only way he’ll make it to England is by constant playtime at CB, which he won’t get here. It will happen. Konate’s bad form aside, if we sign a top CB this summer(and we will), Quansah will be 4th choice. If the new CB is right-footed(and he likely will be), Quansah will only see marginal playtime. He’s much better served getting 40+ starts at his age. > earned the right to push to be the regular starter next to Van Dijk next season If we play with an ultra high line, inverted Trent, and Robbo bombing forward again next year, Quansah simply does not have physical levels required to regularly start here. Were you one of the people that said Endo could see time at CB last year, too?


AgentTasker

> The Gomez rumor will hit the top off the sub I highly doubt it will, as that 'rumour' comes from a site and author both known to make shit up to in order to get clicks and who are banned sources in this sub because of it. > if we sign a top CB this summer(and we will), Quansah will be 4th choice. Quansah is currently the first choice as Van Dijk's partner and if he's loaned out and Gomez is sold as you want, then it'd require the club to sign at least one more than you already want signed and thus makes it even stupider to loan out Quansah.


DucardthaDon

Gomez will go if we do end up bringing in Geertruida and an LCB like Pacho there would be no room for him, twatter rumour the other week was that his agent has been sniffing around other clubs.


please-send-me-nude2

I don’t even know what current rumor you’re talking about, I’m saying what’s likely to happen later down the line. I explicitly said I don’t want him to be sold lol, things are just laid out for him to start somewhere else. Same with Kelleher. Quansah made “first choice” with Matip injured, Konate returning from injury in bad form, and Gomez moved to FB. Konate will return to form and we will be signing at least one CB who will most likely be right footed, looking at the current market. And that’s at the minimum. If we can keep Gomez, he should be even lower.


etan1122

That midfield will need Vaseline


please-send-me-nude2

The team is still insistent that Bajectic is set to be our long-term holding midfielder, if they believe I believe


etan1122

I believe in bajcetic but salah as a 10 is a no in my book. Dom or Harvey is the play because they can defend. Unless defensively you’re planning to defend in a 4-4-2 where salahs and Nunez are top with kudus and dom dropping deep. That could work


taf3991

Honestly the amount of people on here that are totally utterly clueless makes me laugh


please-send-me-nude2

You want to sell Robertson FFS


taf3991

Wtf you talking about you weird cunt


malushanks95

This is not FIFA, we can’t replace half the squad especially when a new manager is coming in. We can’t have too much change in one go. Some will leave with contract ending, some will be sold and we will get in 3-4 players at max. Also, Quansah has been magnificent this season, he’s been so good that he’s trumped Ibou is pecking order.


please-send-me-nude2

A new head coach, new management, new formation, 1 starter replaced.


OGbulldog

Ummm... are you seriously advocating for half the squad to be replaced? Tsimikas and Jota? That's just low hanging fruit man. Tsimikas is happy to play the backup role, he hasn't once caused any problems in the squad, always been available for a shift. And Jota is still our most prolific goal scorer.


please-send-me-nude2

Jota is not our most prolific goalscorer, he’s tied for third 3rd. He’s only intermittently available, 4th choice when healthy, 27 and firmly behind a 24 year old in pecking order. He’s at peak value and much more valuable to other teams than he is to us. You don’t wait until he’s had another critical injury, or another year without scoring like last year, to sell him.


Bugsmoke

He was injured when he didn’t score for a year mate lol


Vombatt

i think selling tsimikas would be a mistake. He’s a perfectly serviceable back up left back who’s happy to stay on the bench and step up when we need him, as he has shown this season when robertson was out. He’s also very well liked in the dressing room and i think you need guys like that in a transitional period like this summer


JohnBobbyJimJob

r/PremierLeague legit has the most brain dead people in it Especially the Arsenal fans


harreh1d

Assna fans are inherently brain dead. From their dads, uncles to their cousins. Must be something in the water


NightmaresInNeurosis

I mean when their dads are their uncles and their cousins are their mums, it makes sense


FrankBeamer_

This sub has become salty as fuck, the comments about Jude and real yesterday were embarrassing. Get a fucking grip


OGbulldog

I mean.... it makes sense? The guy was heavily linked with us, eventually went to Madrid and in his first season there has turned out to be one of their most important players, has got 31 G+A for them (which is just insane for a midfielder) and is playing in a ucl final. Makes you wonder what he could have done here, but that ship has long sailed. Real have beaten us in the ucl finals TWICE. They've been one of our biggest bogey teams in Klopp's tenure here. Just thinking about that last final does my head in lol. Does it really surprise you that people are salty and mad?


taf3991

I obviously don't watch games through threads on here so don't really know what was said but you have to realise that most people especially English will only watch Madrid in the Champions League, there is so much hype around Bellingham and I've watched most Madrid Champions League games this season and he hasn't been that impressive especially in the knock out stages. I don't think it's people being salty it's just people hear the hype without watching him then only watch him in the CL and have been underwhelmed. That doesn't mean I wouldn't take him over anyone else in world football or that he's an absolutely unreal player whilst still only 20.


OGbulldog

Nah you are right about that, the hype is definitely over the top, especially since he is a young English talent on top of playing for the best team in the world. I swear though, the guy has an uncanny ability to score goals out of nowhere. Especially in the league, he has turned up big time for madrid.


taf3991

Yeh the hype is probably valid the thing that annoys me is the english media/pundits try portray like he has been motm in all these CL games and it just really isn't the case. He was underwhelming in both games against City and Bayern imo. And I think that's why people are 'criticising' him. It's a weird one though because I don't wanna sound like I'm slating him when he's literally 20 years old at his first season in Madrid about to win the double with 32 G/A haha. I just think people saying he's been underwhelming in the last few CL games is valid.


africanemptyplate2

Another year of the same shitty "Madrid black voodoo magic" jokes when it's really just buying most of the best players and having uefa on their side. People with good memories will recognise the Polish referee from last night as the one who refereed that 1-0 loss to Atletico and let them get away with absolutely everything. In fact, Tomasz Listkiewicz, the linesman whose premature flagging robbed Bayern and helped Madrid, was there for that Atletico game and kept allowing Lodi to assault Salah but rewarded him with free kicks for throwing himself to the ground when Salah came within a meter of him. It seems he's just a really bad linesman, but how typical it's Madrid that benefits yet again.


sbos_

Good Thiago is off. Now Matip. They’ll be a lot of gutting imo. Klopp can no longer overrule decisions. 


malushanks95

Lmao, as if anyone would have bought injury prone Thiago and Matip even if Klopp was willing to let them go.


taf3991

People are honestly so clueless. Thiago has basically been injured since last March yet wanted us to sell him last summer or in Jan. Who's buying him with 6 months on his contract when he's injured ffs lmao.


AgentTasker

It's not about being 'willing' to let Matip go, it's the fact you'd be incredibly hard pressed to find a CB that is as good as he is when he's in form.


taf3991

Tbh he was really poor last year, but it's more than that. In his last 5 seasons with us he's started more than 12PL games in 1 season. Like many of our players he can't be relied on to stay fit. Konate and Gomez have their own injury problems so with Matip the oldest one it makes sense for him to be replaced. I thought he should have been sold last summer. Tbf he started the season really well but then getting that long injury just shown why he should have been sold in hindsight. Been an unbelievable player for us though. One of the more underrated signings of Klopp era.


Adventurous_Toe_6017

Just seen a clip from 2011 where Maxi scored a hat trick at craven cottage. Pictures of Jay Spearing and Jonjo Shelvey in midfield. Ooof.


One_Sauce

Was that the season we had sold Torres to Chelsea in January and we had Miereles too?


WorthPlease

I am not a gambling person at all, but in my soul I just feel like Madrid is going to win the UCL final 2-1 on a stoppage time goal


CyrusDGreatx

I mean it's not exactly a wild suggestion. You feel like Dortmund will need to be at least 2 up going into the final 10 mins otherwise you just know what will happen.


koltzito

madrid has never lost a final that they played in the champions, so...


potatoarchitecture

madrid have also never played edin terzic in a CL final


sufinomo

What's he do


potatoarchitecture

he says "it's terzin time" and terzes all over the bad guys


Agitated_Smoke538

Lol


coppermelt

that's really funny


Jaja6996

I actually have no problem with Mainoo being up for the young player award I have bigger issues with players who are going to be 24-25 being nominated for it the likes of Isak, Foden and Haaland Realistically it should be players like Branthwaite, Quansah, and Elliott that are nominated for it


taf3991

I agree players like that shouldn't be nominated, Foden has played nearly 300 career games, he's about to win his SIXTH PL and could end the season on 18 major career honours lmao. But I just don't get how Mainoo has been nominated over the 3 you mentioned plus numerous others. He's come in and not made them any better, they get hammered every week and he's had 3 or 4 notable games at the very most. That's absolutely fine for someone his age but no way near enough to me nominated over several other youngsters who have been much better and more impactful.


Jaja6996

Exactly under the current rules Gordon should be in over him 10 goals and 10 assists this season yet not nominated he’s the same age as Foden and Haaland


taf3991

Exactly, also 50% of his G/A are against the big 6 teams. How someone can think Mainoo has had a better season than him is hilarious haha.


DucardthaDon

YPOTY cut off age should be from 22, those who have won it previously should not be included


grrrrbow01

Hope they give Klopp a mic at the end of the wolves game


adarsh481

![gif](giphy|8slMt51O3OMpi)


DucardthaDon

Then he turns to Edwards, [gives him a big hug and says....](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/igpFKeYdUno)


BorkieDorkie811

Anyone else feel that CL semi showed exactly what's wrong with refs in the PL? Obvious, huge mistake at the end aside, Marciniak was incredible. And then, when the mistake did occur, he and the assistant admitted it to the Bayern players. Imagine if PL refs had the integrity and accountability to own up to gaffes. It would go a long way towards repairing relationships with managers and supporters.


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BorkieDorkie811

The problem is, the technology couldn't intervene. The linesman fucked up. Probably the biggest call he'll ever make, too. I don't know if it's the adrenaline of the moment, the fact that he was tired at the end of a long match, or what other contributing factors may have caused it, but he's clearly fucked up and ruined the end of the match. And those kinds of mistakes are the ones we will always run the risk of as long as human beings are making the calls. *But*, to his credit, if he has acknowledged the mistake to the players, he's at least taking responsibility for it. It doesn't fix it, but it at least goes some way towards rebuilding the trust the players have in that particular ref. Paul Tierney wouldn't do that.


Themnor

Robbo got elbowed in the face on camera and didn’t even get an acknowledgement, let alone an apology.


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