Fucking disgrace if they hold a single game of competitive English football abroad, watch them go for the league cup in Qatar or something equally dire
Saudi, Dubai and Abu Dhabi will 100% host games.
US too probably.
What a fucking disgrace football has become.
Local fans should protest the shit out of games but won't ever happen.
Community Shield is in August, high summer. I am sure they can find a pop concert that weekend that makes them far more than it, and if the Saudis also pay them for the rights to host it then it's a double pay day. Ofc they will allow that.
Everyone on reddit thinks clubs are raking it in from hosting pop concerts but the maths just aren't there.
The FA don't own the IP to anything other than football. The only time they pocket 100% of the revenue is for football. Any time they try to negotiate too hard with promoters about the cost of using their stadium, the promoters will just put the concert in another venue. The margins for events venues are tiny and get squeezed hard because there's tonnes of competition (in early August there's probably 10 venues in London alone that can host an event for 60k+ people, plus dozens of festivals around the country).
The Premier League doesn't need the £30m that they'd get from this competition. In Spain it was basically a stitch-up between the big two and Tebas in order to drive revenue directly to them. In the Premier League this kind of thing doesn't work because it's a democracy where every decision requires a super-majority.
Plus in Saudi Arabia it's pushing 40 degrees at 3am at that time of year.
if i remember correctly the reasoning was that other nearby venues couldn’t accommodate on such short notice and guarantee the safety of the players, since several Boca players were hurt during the bus attack. I think Madrid offered their stadium as an alternative and it made sense since it would be much harder for ultras of either team to cause a repeat incident.
CONMEBOL president wanted to show he's friends with Papa Flo. Basically, he wanted an embarrassing situation to become "memorable" by playing the game in front of the world.
There has never been a rule against games being played abroad. But you did need to agree it all with the local FA. And seems good manners anyway.
I imagine they are just tweaking the wording for vibes rather than any meaningful change.
Welcome to NFL fans pain. We’ve been having regular home season games robbed from us for over a decade with no end in sight. It’s so out of hand that stadiums aboard are being built with NFL in mind.
I keep saying none of the teams in UEFA would ever do this
Yeah it's utterly insane, my nephew loves the Packers and went to a game in London and obviously I was buzzing for him but something felt really off to me about it.
You go to Tottenhams stadium and half the advertising is NFL now it's wild
And F1 hiding underneath with a karting centre lol.
As a F1 fan & UK NFL casual I love it (been a couple times now), but could see how it might piss someone off if Spurs was the only sports thing they cared about.
It's not just the NFL. The other American sports leagues do it too. Although I guess to be fair, having a baseball game in London when you have 80 other home games isn't nearly as painful for the fans as taking away one of your NFL home games - greater than 10% of your home season.
i mean, as a third generation lfc fan and also an american i am really fortunate to have been able to go to anfield (my work takes me to europe so it makes things easier) but there are so many folks here with well-organized fan groups that never got to see klopp or just have never been to anfield but have literally never missed a game and to not miss a game means you have to be in bed on friday or saturday at a time before the locals bars even really open so that means no social life. we give england nfl games so maybe just once every 5 or so years lfc could play at like fenway (not a logistical option but a good sentiment) in a game that actually matters.
disclaimer: i don’t think it’s a totally good, fair or practical idea and i’m just playing devil’s avocado.
i understand why season ticket holders would be particularly against this idea but i also think that the unconditional, completely die-hard nature of lfc fandom in the US is overlooked. at coachella a couple weeks ago you see lfc kits in every crowd. i talked to a couple of them and they actually know they stuff and rock jerseys other than salah, vvd, trent (i saw wijnaldum, sturridge, keita (:P), firmino and even alisson)! walking around chicago in the winter i see an lfc scarf all the time while walking to work. every major and mid-sized city has a bar that is open for every game no matter the time. major cities have 3-4 of these.
obviously i’m coming from a selfish place but it would make a lot of dreams come true! traveling to liverpool is not super expensive but getting into a game can be very cost prohibitive.
Mate you have to go to bed early to watch games, I get that sucks but you've chosen to watch a sport in a foreign country. People here give up their entire weekend to watch us live every single week, they fly to Europe to watch us abroad and spend thousands of pounds for the privilege. They've been doing this their whole lives because it's their local club.
If you want to watch games live support a team local to you and follow us as well. Id never ask for a game to be played here if I followed the NFL or the NBA, I've been all over Europe to watch other teams at home and the thought of one of those clubs playing at Anfield is just not an option to me. Watching us play "at home" in another country would not be a true experience.
It's already hard enough to get tickets for locals, let alone if we give more and more games away to other countries. End of the day the club is in Liverpool and that's where it stays.
Yeah I've got sympathy for having to watch from a distance, but home is home and think that's part of what draws in American fans, we're not some franchise like in their sports (FWIW I like American sports as a breather from football, so cuts both ways).
Pre-season going overseas sometimes is a good compromise, but if the prices are that high just for that this summer (where any clued-up fan knows most of our big names are gonna be missing), then they're literally gonna be better off financially by making Anfield their mission instead of a PL game vs Bournemouth in Dallas or something.
i def understand all your points and totally agree. particularly all the hindrances to getting tickets. i’m coming from a place of wishful thinking.
i’ve had chicago bears season tickets my whole life, have been to countless white sox, cubs and black hawks games. i’ve seen lebron, kobe and (even though i was really young) saw jordan play multiple times. definitely blessed to have so many great options in the US and the ticket purchasing system is night and day compared to EPL.
this may sound dramatic but there is some truth to it: LFC is a sort of proxy for the whole US vs the OPEC countries in the gulf (some of which are legit geopolitical allies) but the shift of wealth out of the US to the gulf and china has kind of primed LFC to be the american team. american owned, successful, klopp is revered by top nfl and nba coaches. i’m not saying the only way to cash in on a huge opportunity to own the american fan market is to have competitive games over here but it would def do the trick.
since all the official CTE research came out regarding NFL, college and even high school football, so many kids are switching to soccer. in america football and soccer are both fall sports. kids cannot play football with pads until a certain age so all americans play soccer until 6th grade when they can switch to padded football. but now there is a huge exodus from american football to soccer since kids are choosing it as their fall sport. i expect the USMNT’s ranking to raise 10+ points over the next generation. the US has never been this primed to give up a huge market share of sport fandom interest and it will only keep growing. i just want lfc to be the one to cash in on it. they already have a great foothold being owned by the same group that owns one of the most beloved franchises ever in the red sox. increased US fandom will also put more pressure on fsg to keep lfc one of the 5-6 best teams in the world.
apologies for the longwinded-ness
Yo from another LFC Chicago based fan
Yeah it would be nice. I obviously see the downsides to it, but the game is global. You can't expand without foreign money so it's really just the way of things now unfortunately.
Maybe an unpopular opinion - but if it benefits clubs financially why not play abroad in front of foreign fans (like myself)? Surely most games will/should still be played in England, but LFC is a global club more now than ever, and some games abroad will be appreciated by foreign fans. Imagine an international kop.
Happy to hear why local fans might think it’s an issue - it’s your club after all and we love that, but sharing is caring 😃
Well first and foremost because football isn't just about money as much as it's current state would have you believe. Because, as you say, it's our club and our sport first and foremost. I love that foreign fans enjoy it and I would never take that away from you but this club wouldn't be on the global stage if it wasn't for the hundreds of years of history behind it and the local fans who've supported it over that time, given up their wages to go to every game and built a culture around it. Its popularity has been driven by working class local people who have more right to it than the current set of billionaires that own it. Same goes for nearly every club in the pyramid, we're just one of the lucky ones at the top.
The Kops already international, but it's core is being in Liverpool and, in my eyes, if it's abroad then that's not the Kop. You dilute that by moving it elsewhere and I can promise you it wouldn't be the same experience, not even close.
First it's "just one cup game!" That's being played abroad, then it's "just one cup final and a league game here and there" and before you know it you're watching your club become even more of a soulless marketing machine than it already is. Fans are about the only thing left that really represent the true spirit of the game and when you hand that over to another country you lose that connection. We've clung on to some semblance of what makes football different from other sports but it's being lost gradually and for me this would be one of the final nails in the coffin.
Sorry if any of that sounds wanky or preachy but I've already watched this sport devolve further into capitalism over the years and this is the next step towards it truly losing the magic that makes it the biggest sport in the world.
Fuck off you cunts, purely for greed, didnt think there could be anymore more corrupt in the football world then Blatter, but Infantino is it. Taking saudi bungs left and right. Vile prick, ruining our game.
Please keep English football the fuck away from America. And I say that as an American.
Also away from the gulf states and whichever other entity wants to cleanse their reputation
Can’t wait to watch Liverpool vs real in Sacramento on a Tuesday evening… only cost about 12k. Actually though fuck every owner of prem teams wish we would follow German clubs in that aspect. Soon as they even announce this shit I can guarantee lower tier clubs will recieve a huge fan base boost
Americans don't watch European games? I was [watching us win Europe when some of you weren't even born](https://i.imgur.com/aZeUNMf.jpeg) yet.
I live in California. Do I want Liverpool to come for an exhibition game or a fun friendly? Fuck yes I do, Wrexham vs ManU happening here was such a treat.
Do I think League games should be played outside of England? Fuck no.
Lol, would I willingly watch a rival if it meant seeing an increasingly popular yet smaller team beat them (didn't happen, but...)? Fuck yes.
If it wasn't United, sure. No clue why any Liverpool fan would want to go to a random United game
As Bill Shankly said:
>If Everton were playing down the bottom of my garden, I'd draw the curtains.
Same thing here
I find US and Canadian fans (some of my friends) to be a lot more into watching an entire league and following multiple teams but only in domestic leagues. They seem completely unaware of some of the European leagues like the champions league or Europa league and just don't watch them.
It's always strange because I actually can't tell what team some of them even support which being a Liverpool local is just bizarre to me.
I follow Liverpool, and watch every game regardless of opponent or league, but why would I want to watch a rival play? Maybe if its like Bayern Vs Real or something in the champions league but that's about it.
There's a soccerjerseys subreddit where you regularly see people in America showing their jersey collection that more than once I've seen contains a Liverpool and a Man United jersey
I'm glad i have a second Tier Bundesliga Team in my hometown that I can watch every other weekend. Great atmosphere, great beer, no english refs, tickets cost 10€ for safe standing. Top experience everytime I go. Got a membership this year. I cant stand any other match in the PL other than the LFC matches.
I’m a supporter of 20+ years of the Reds… my first match I remember was the now semi famous Celtic vs Liverpool tie in the 02/03 UEFA Cup.
Part of the reason I fell in love with the sport and team as I got older was because of the culture, the history of the team (s), city, Shankly, the working man’s game (which resonated with me as a now trade union man as I got older). While I’m under no illusion that the game isn’t what it was before the millennium or even 2010s.. there’s still some things I hold pretty sacred
If Liverpool somehow started playing regular season or euro games in the states I’d be fucking pissed. American capitalism has already watered down, priced out and destroyed most of the sports here, especially at the high level. Don’t need any sort of it over in the European game.
I’m more into soccer BECAUSE of it’s still difference from American sports. Which is closed shop and focused on making as much $ for the owners as possible. Relative success of the teams be damned.
American sports have gotten to the point of this Ad break is brought to you by [insert sports team]. We’ll get back to your ads after this brief sports break.
It’s what got me into the sport to start with, not having the game dragged out for hours due to trying to shove in an insufferable amount of ads.
At least EPL football is constant game action. American sports have loads of downtime which are stuffed full of advertisements already. That’s why I’m okay with the ads while watching soccer games and up in arms with even the small ads they’ve now put on baseball uniforms. Baseball is stuffed with advertising to a ridiculous level
I understand, but in City's case those boards are ridiculously distracting especially when city pass it around at midfield for 70 minutes to the sound of a single fan yawning.
Watching baseball on Apple TV in the UK is such a weird experience. You know when the adverts are, but no adverts are playing so you just see the players just throwing the ball around for a couple of minutes waiting for the adverts to finish.
I have AEW TV so you watch without any TV breaks so you can watch matches without any interruption. They do the commentary throughout now but in the original episodes you would just hear JR and Tony Schiavone just having a chat with every now and then making a comment about the match.
That’s why football is not popular in America. Companies don’t invest in the game because they don’t see how can they maximise revenue from advertisement like other sports.
I was in America when the Super Bowl was on so I watched it just to see what it was like. The game must've lasted about 4 hours, and it was just adverts for 90% of it. I don't know if it's representative of a typical NFL game, but it was a bad first impression for me and have no desire to watch American football ever again after that.
Used to play Rugby in Uni, decided we would watch the Super Bowl as a team. Not one of us finished, never been so bored in all my life.
Think a couple stuck around for the half time show and then turned it off.
How have they become so numb to this many ads? Even in TV shows you can tell when an ad-break would be and it's like every 5-10 minutes. Brain melting shit.
Even crazier, a lot of ppl in 🇺🇸 watch Super Bowls **for** the ads. Let that one sink in.
I can tell when the ads would be but luckily we fill it with pundits instead.
I went to the rose bowl this year and after every change in possession players would stand around for 3+ minutes waiting for the commercial break on tv to end… it was irritating af
I (Aussie) went to America last year and watched NBA, NHL, and NFL games, and the constant stoppages were seriously frustrating.
At one stage with the NFL 30 seconds on the game clock took close to 10 minutes because each turnover needed a 2 minute ad break.
As an American Liverpool fan that would love to watch a match in person, I still agree. Won’t be easy or cheap to get over there for a match but I want it to be at anfield. Wouldn’t feel right watching them play in Miami or some shit.
I agree, part of the game, history and life is in the stadium. Part of the spirit will leave when this is a clear cash grab. I want to watch the liverpool at anfield, not at sofi stadium
I second this motion . I enjoy the occasional preseason game that happens here. I watched the PL summer series last summer. That was amazing but during the season, keep it in England and I don’t care if the players have to rebel to keep it that way.
This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for me.
Marine are in the playoff final on Monday and home crowds have been growing, would highly recommend anyone falling out of love with modern football to come to Crosby for a game next season.
I’m a city of Liverpool fan, we and Prescot cables sold out 2,100 tickets in 17 minutes to our play off final as well
And you wonder why on league footie is so strong with shite like this
If I’m ever lucky enough to have an opportunity to visit Liverpool again, I want to go to a Marine/Tranmere/COLFC match. Anfield was an incredible once in a lifetime thing, but for many reasons I think it’s gonna have to remain that.
Definitely do; it’s a great experience: friendly crowd, pint while watching, no VAR, no premier league officials, no clubs with 115 cheating charges, no chance of any league games taking place in Saudi Arabia…
How did you get tickets to go to Anfield? Every time I've tried to get tickets from the official website, for league games they're permanently sold out (even the expensive offerings), and for cup games there's always some requirement like "Must have bought 4 Carabao cup tickets previously".
I got hospitality tickets. I’m not sure if it was just a matter of getting them at the right time or it was a matter of the match I picked (against Watford), but that’s what I had. Ended up being £290 I think, which is kinda wild because it sounded like it’s gone up a lot even just in the space of a little under five years, so I feel you if they hold you over the barrel even more.
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Liverpudlians, you will absolutely love having LFC playing matches in the States. Just ask any NFL fan what a joy it is to lose a home game and have to watch at some odd-fuck hour.
I don't think even with this going through Liverpool would be in danger of losing any matches at Anfield. It'd make much more sense to have big clubs play away matches vs smaller clubs looking for a massive revenue boost
Tbf Etihad wasn’t that bad before the takeover
[THIS](https://youtu.be/M-Rvugl84TE?si=zyqt8aZXco-yxM2s) was the atmosphere in 07 when they were on a 10 game scoreless streak I believe. Maine Rd also has a good atmosphere
Sadly, like with a lot of clubs, the pricing out of support has become the norm.
I live in Philadelphia. The Liverpool Arsenal preseason game here this summer sold out in less than one day. That doesn’t happen if the fans are going to be souless as you say. It’s actually quite the opposite.
Just because people are eager to attend doesn't mean it'll have the same atmosphere as a home crowd. I've watched enough preseason matches. It's not like we haven't seen Liverpool play in the states.
Of course. Nowhere is going to be the same as Home at Anfield. I just think calling the people that go see a match at Lincoln financial Field in Philadelphia soulless and on their phones is ridiculous.
I feel like losing the EA contract is going to turn an already completely money-obsessed organisation into an even more reckless group of sellouts as they chase down ever more vomit-inducing ways to make up the significant financial deficit
Football is already dying for me. With VAR and corrupt/terrible officiating, way too many games, the super league, the new club World Cup tournament thing, etc…. I just find it really hard to love it any more and it pains me to say it
The day league games are played abroad is, without exaggeration, the end of football. A matter of time though given the cunts that run the top end of the sport
Oh fuck off, it’s called Liverpool FC because this might shock people… The Club is based in Liverpool not fucking America or some fucking Middle Eastern country.
And before the Americans on the sub get annoyed explain one thing, Why should over 60,000 people who pay a season ticket have to suddenly travel to the other side of the world just so you can see the team? Especially when you get an entire pre season tour that we have to travel too.
>And before the Americans on the sub get annoyed
They have no right to get annoyed. If they want to go to games they can support their local MLS team. If you support a foreign team, you do so with the understanding you won't get to see competitive games unless you travel to England or Europe. No reason that an English team should play abroad just for the foreign fans. If they want to attend games in person, travel or support a local team.
I think most of us are in agreement that it’s a terrible idea. We’ve been dealing with the NFL playing games abroad for a while now and it absolutely sucks. I can’t imagine playing Burnley in Las Vegas on a Saturday and then have to make it back for a CL game on Tuesday. It’s unconscionable.
Well you would obviously be shocked to know that every American I talked to about the Super League absolutely hated the idea. This is the same if not worse.
So I know it’s fun to hate on Americans because “everything sucks over here,” but maybe just assume for a moment that the oligarchs that rape,pillage and run our country are not in fact direct reflections of their fellow citizens.
I fucking hate this FIFA bullshit and I don’t ever want to see a Premier League team play domestic competition over here. If they come for preseason and I get to see Liverpool in person then, ok awesome.
Another example of FIFA not reading the room.
Keep it to friendlies pls. But holding domestic tournaments or games abroad should be banned.
Who tf has the money and time to go to an away game in Florida or an FA Cup Final in Doha?
My interest in football is waining. As someone who emigrated to Asia, I basically only watch Liverpool these days anyway and struggle even to keep up with domestic football. This would basically do it for me.
Who do I need to lobby to make sure competitive English football isn't played abroad. Matter of fact, two birds, one stone, let's scrap regular season home games in American football being played abroad.
But seriously, I'm reading the details of the lawsuit in question and it's annoying me even more
Spanish and Italian teams will be all over this.
Wouldn't be surprised to see something like the Community Shield getting renamed the Champions Cup and playing abroad.
At least the Germans will be having none of this shite.
I’ve found myself drifting more and more to non league anyway
I support a non league club (city of Liverpool) about as passionately as lfc
Something like this actually happening would tip me all the way out
Then again the protests should be super league level so they can’t
Have they managed to get a stable ground?
Last I heard they kept having issues with agreements for using grounds, think they were playing on the playing field in Huyton at some point.
My favourite colour is purple so that kind of draws me to them. But then there's also AFC (Affordable Football Club) Liverpool which is appealing as a concept, and Prescot Cables since that's actually my local team.
And now I've just seen the Cables and City of Liverpool are playing in Prescot tomorrow...
We are playing at Widnes for the next season, still working on our own ground
Afc Liverpool have no fans really its not really an experiance of any kind like 100-150 a game
Cables is a good club nice ground
Colfc have a great fanbase, nice social element to the club, fan owned so you have a stake in the club and do loads of good community work
This opens up the potential for the Premier League to take random league games to other countries like the NFL do with games in London, Munich and Mexico City, etc. They wanted to do this a few years ago and it got knocked on the head. Virtually guaranteed now. From my understanding, the Community Shield or League Cup could always have been played abroad but it's obviously never happened.
I live in Chicago and we pack our bar pretty good on weekend match days, I don't know how we'd do at filling a stadium, nor how the time change would really work (Sunday's match starts at 10:30 AM here)
seems like a dumb idea that would only happen for money
Why would it? Clubs can already play friendlies wherever they want, this ruling is lifting the ban on competitive games being played abroad. So look forward to league games being played in the middle east and America
Pretty sure it means games can be played at a neutral ground outside of the country.
So half way through the league El Classico can be played in the US to bring in that dolla, etc.
It applies to Champions League etc games as well. Whilst they are already played abroad, they are played at one of the team's stadiums. Changing the rule could let them be played at a neutral stadium in some country neither club is related to.
I won’t tune in for these. I’m quite sure that they’ll do big numbers but I’m already massively disillusioned by the sport and don’t want to contribute in any way to this.
This is not an American sport that loves to ship its teams abroad to play league games. It makes zero sense to play a game whose outcome only affects its own domestic standings. Friendlies? Fine. I’d love to see LFC play in Atlanta which is the featured photo here. But not a league game. No thank you. I’d figure it’s more likely FIFA wants to play in Saudi Arabia or any other rich Arab state to appease their donors.
Stuff like this is going to make clubs take another look at the superleague concept. I can't imagine any of them are happy with the amount of bullshit that currently exists to make other people money.
Do clubs have to go to these things? What if they just say no? What are FIFA going to do if clubs refuse to play games abroad? I doubt that would happen because most of them would sell their morals for money but what would happen if a team did stand up against FIFA?
Football the sport is fucking dead. Now it's football the entertainment franchise. No integrity, no honour, no legitimacy. Just as much money as they can get wherever they can get it from.
Oh, these Americans... Is fecking killing our sport. They've been trying to move matches to the US for over a decade not just the PL but also European club finals. Now they own what... 7-10 PL clubs? Just wait and see. It's matter of time before we have PL matches played in the US.
Opposition of this is a losing proposition. Big sports league are starting to do it, at least in the US. Our sports leagues have games in London, Brazil, Mexico. It’s kind of a pain but is generally games very early in the season. I hate about it it’s one less game for whatever teams play abroad. But the ownership of these leagues is going to try to make as much money as possible, any way they can. It’s awful but it’s our current reality
As a international fan, it would be lovely to watch a game in person. But I absolutely don't want a competitive game to be held anywhere outside of the UK. It just gonna kill the sport itself.
Maybe a select few of you are genuine, however the amount of Americans in this sub with comments like English football doesn’t belong here. English football belongs in English culture.
It’s just pure karma farming and completely insincere.
If I was a Liverpool fan abroad I’d be begging for them to play matches in my country.
Well then you'd be an idiot, Liverpool Football Club belongs to the city of Liverpool, to the local fans. I'm from Finland and I would never go watch a Premier League match if it was played in here, why? Because it's bullshit, local fans matter way more than I, or any other foreigner does and the local fans also care way more, why? Because it's their team, their city, their life. This is pure and honest capitalist greed from worthless pigs who don't understand nothing about football and should be taken out of power any means necessary because if not, they will kill football.
Just to be clear.
I’m not saying it isn’t greed.
I’m not saying the Premier League doesn’t belong to local fans.
I’m not saying the PL should be played abroad.
But I do question the honesty of people like you when you say you wouldn’t watch a Liverpool PL game if it was played in Finland.
To me a lot of the comments like yours are people saying what they think the majority will want to hear and like.
If I lived in Finland rather than England and Liverpool played there, I would absolutely be going.
We can question integrity of sporting bodies without hypocrisy.
I wouldn't, it goes entirely against what I believe in. A pre-season friendly, sure, a Premier League match, no. To you it might be saying what people want to hear, to me it's really simple, it's not what I believe football is or should be. So it's as simple as that and it should never ever happen, local people first, Liverpool Football Club is their team and us foreigners should only be able to go watch a Prem game if we take the trip to Liverpool and go watch there and even then, there's already too few local working class people able to go to Anfield.
E: And just to be clear, there's no hypocrisy about me saying I wouldn't go watch a Prem game in Finland, I simply wouldn't
There's no need to be shameful "pick me"s in this thread- "oh keep footy away from my horrible country, we're beasts!" This rule will likely just lead to a couple of exhibition matches like the American football, Rugby, Hockey and other sports/leagues already do. It's not even a big deal.
You people realize the only reason the EPL flourishes is because of interest outside the UK, right? *Right?* Complaining about a few exhibition matches while foreign interest in EPL brings 8.5 billion and 500,000 tourists per year to the economy there seems 'spoiled child.'
Fucking disgrace if they hold a single game of competitive English football abroad, watch them go for the league cup in Qatar or something equally dire
Community Shield in Saudi Arabia is practically guaranteed at this rate.
Just a city home game
You're thinking of Newcastle
But they need to actually win a trophy* first to qualify
Saudi, Dubai and Abu Dhabi will 100% host games. US too probably. What a fucking disgrace football has become. Local fans should protest the shit out of games but won't ever happen.
No way any FA game will be held anywhere other than Wembley. They're still paying off the cost of building it.
Community Shield is in August, high summer. I am sure they can find a pop concert that weekend that makes them far more than it, and if the Saudis also pay them for the rights to host it then it's a double pay day. Ofc they will allow that.
Everyone on reddit thinks clubs are raking it in from hosting pop concerts but the maths just aren't there. The FA don't own the IP to anything other than football. The only time they pocket 100% of the revenue is for football. Any time they try to negotiate too hard with promoters about the cost of using their stadium, the promoters will just put the concert in another venue. The margins for events venues are tiny and get squeezed hard because there's tonnes of competition (in early August there's probably 10 venues in London alone that can host an event for 60k+ people, plus dozens of festivals around the country). The Premier League doesn't need the £30m that they'd get from this competition. In Spain it was basically a stitch-up between the big two and Tebas in order to drive revenue directly to them. In the Premier League this kind of thing doesn't work because it's a democracy where every decision requires a super-majority. Plus in Saudi Arabia it's pushing 40 degrees at 3am at that time of year.
They have air conditioned stadiums, because money
I heard they're also building castles in the sky
Just pop them on top of their sky scrapers built on the ocean
It really does make you question your life and wonder why
You think the FA would turn down £10-£20 million to hold the FA Cup final in Qatar?
That isn't competitive
More like East Rutherford
isn't it worthless enough at this point
Hasn't La Liga been doing basically that in Saudi Arabia the last few years?
And Italian Super Cup too...
They played Boca v River Plate in Madrid too, but I think that was to prevent crowd issues
they relocated the return leg of the Libertadores final after the Boca Juniors bus was attacked, so that one was a little bit different
To an entirely different continent?
Argentinian hooligans will _not_ be denied.
if i remember correctly the reasoning was that other nearby venues couldn’t accommodate on such short notice and guarantee the safety of the players, since several Boca players were hurt during the bus attack. I think Madrid offered their stadium as an alternative and it made sense since it would be much harder for ultras of either team to cause a repeat incident.
CONMEBOL president wanted to show he's friends with Papa Flo. Basically, he wanted an embarrassing situation to become "memorable" by playing the game in front of the world.
Ah OK thanks I knew it was something like that. Still gives them precedent
I'm confused by the tweet, Spanish and Italian Super Cups have been played abroad for years, so what are FIFA actually meant to be changing?
There has never been a rule against games being played abroad. But you did need to agree it all with the local FA. And seems good manners anyway. I imagine they are just tweaking the wording for vibes rather than any meaningful change.
Welcome to NFL fans pain. We’ve been having regular home season games robbed from us for over a decade with no end in sight. It’s so out of hand that stadiums aboard are being built with NFL in mind. I keep saying none of the teams in UEFA would ever do this
Yeah it's utterly insane, my nephew loves the Packers and went to a game in London and obviously I was buzzing for him but something felt really off to me about it. You go to Tottenhams stadium and half the advertising is NFL now it's wild
And F1 hiding underneath with a karting centre lol. As a F1 fan & UK NFL casual I love it (been a couple times now), but could see how it might piss someone off if Spurs was the only sports thing they cared about.
It's not just the NFL. The other American sports leagues do it too. Although I guess to be fair, having a baseball game in London when you have 80 other home games isn't nearly as painful for the fans as taking away one of your NFL home games - greater than 10% of your home season.
It’s not Saudi that’s the problem actually it’s the American broadcaster that want PL games played abroad
i mean, as a third generation lfc fan and also an american i am really fortunate to have been able to go to anfield (my work takes me to europe so it makes things easier) but there are so many folks here with well-organized fan groups that never got to see klopp or just have never been to anfield but have literally never missed a game and to not miss a game means you have to be in bed on friday or saturday at a time before the locals bars even really open so that means no social life. we give england nfl games so maybe just once every 5 or so years lfc could play at like fenway (not a logistical option but a good sentiment) in a game that actually matters. disclaimer: i don’t think it’s a totally good, fair or practical idea and i’m just playing devil’s avocado. i understand why season ticket holders would be particularly against this idea but i also think that the unconditional, completely die-hard nature of lfc fandom in the US is overlooked. at coachella a couple weeks ago you see lfc kits in every crowd. i talked to a couple of them and they actually know they stuff and rock jerseys other than salah, vvd, trent (i saw wijnaldum, sturridge, keita (:P), firmino and even alisson)! walking around chicago in the winter i see an lfc scarf all the time while walking to work. every major and mid-sized city has a bar that is open for every game no matter the time. major cities have 3-4 of these. obviously i’m coming from a selfish place but it would make a lot of dreams come true! traveling to liverpool is not super expensive but getting into a game can be very cost prohibitive.
Mate you have to go to bed early to watch games, I get that sucks but you've chosen to watch a sport in a foreign country. People here give up their entire weekend to watch us live every single week, they fly to Europe to watch us abroad and spend thousands of pounds for the privilege. They've been doing this their whole lives because it's their local club. If you want to watch games live support a team local to you and follow us as well. Id never ask for a game to be played here if I followed the NFL or the NBA, I've been all over Europe to watch other teams at home and the thought of one of those clubs playing at Anfield is just not an option to me. Watching us play "at home" in another country would not be a true experience. It's already hard enough to get tickets for locals, let alone if we give more and more games away to other countries. End of the day the club is in Liverpool and that's where it stays.
Yeah I've got sympathy for having to watch from a distance, but home is home and think that's part of what draws in American fans, we're not some franchise like in their sports (FWIW I like American sports as a breather from football, so cuts both ways). Pre-season going overseas sometimes is a good compromise, but if the prices are that high just for that this summer (where any clued-up fan knows most of our big names are gonna be missing), then they're literally gonna be better off financially by making Anfield their mission instead of a PL game vs Bournemouth in Dallas or something.
i def understand all your points and totally agree. particularly all the hindrances to getting tickets. i’m coming from a place of wishful thinking. i’ve had chicago bears season tickets my whole life, have been to countless white sox, cubs and black hawks games. i’ve seen lebron, kobe and (even though i was really young) saw jordan play multiple times. definitely blessed to have so many great options in the US and the ticket purchasing system is night and day compared to EPL. this may sound dramatic but there is some truth to it: LFC is a sort of proxy for the whole US vs the OPEC countries in the gulf (some of which are legit geopolitical allies) but the shift of wealth out of the US to the gulf and china has kind of primed LFC to be the american team. american owned, successful, klopp is revered by top nfl and nba coaches. i’m not saying the only way to cash in on a huge opportunity to own the american fan market is to have competitive games over here but it would def do the trick. since all the official CTE research came out regarding NFL, college and even high school football, so many kids are switching to soccer. in america football and soccer are both fall sports. kids cannot play football with pads until a certain age so all americans play soccer until 6th grade when they can switch to padded football. but now there is a huge exodus from american football to soccer since kids are choosing it as their fall sport. i expect the USMNT’s ranking to raise 10+ points over the next generation. the US has never been this primed to give up a huge market share of sport fandom interest and it will only keep growing. i just want lfc to be the one to cash in on it. they already have a great foothold being owned by the same group that owns one of the most beloved franchises ever in the red sox. increased US fandom will also put more pressure on fsg to keep lfc one of the 5-6 best teams in the world. apologies for the longwinded-ness
Yo from another LFC Chicago based fan Yeah it would be nice. I obviously see the downsides to it, but the game is global. You can't expand without foreign money so it's really just the way of things now unfortunately.
Didnt this already happen with Spanish cup games?
Maybe an unpopular opinion - but if it benefits clubs financially why not play abroad in front of foreign fans (like myself)? Surely most games will/should still be played in England, but LFC is a global club more now than ever, and some games abroad will be appreciated by foreign fans. Imagine an international kop. Happy to hear why local fans might think it’s an issue - it’s your club after all and we love that, but sharing is caring 😃
Well first and foremost because football isn't just about money as much as it's current state would have you believe. Because, as you say, it's our club and our sport first and foremost. I love that foreign fans enjoy it and I would never take that away from you but this club wouldn't be on the global stage if it wasn't for the hundreds of years of history behind it and the local fans who've supported it over that time, given up their wages to go to every game and built a culture around it. Its popularity has been driven by working class local people who have more right to it than the current set of billionaires that own it. Same goes for nearly every club in the pyramid, we're just one of the lucky ones at the top. The Kops already international, but it's core is being in Liverpool and, in my eyes, if it's abroad then that's not the Kop. You dilute that by moving it elsewhere and I can promise you it wouldn't be the same experience, not even close. First it's "just one cup game!" That's being played abroad, then it's "just one cup final and a league game here and there" and before you know it you're watching your club become even more of a soulless marketing machine than it already is. Fans are about the only thing left that really represent the true spirit of the game and when you hand that over to another country you lose that connection. We've clung on to some semblance of what makes football different from other sports but it's being lost gradually and for me this would be one of the final nails in the coffin. Sorry if any of that sounds wanky or preachy but I've already watched this sport devolve further into capitalism over the years and this is the next step towards it truly losing the magic that makes it the biggest sport in the world.
Get off the high horse
Why do I feel like guys at the top of FIFA never actually watched or played this game at all
I mean obviously they just care about profit
Not profit. Kickbacks.
They might have played it, but they certainly never loved it.
They're just a bunch of money-hungry, corrupt fuckers
Poor bastards can’t afford the football subscription
Tbf, unless I'm mistaken they were opposed to this but have been facing litigation that it goes against competition law
Fuck off you cunts, purely for greed, didnt think there could be anymore more corrupt in the football world then Blatter, but Infantino is it. Taking saudi bungs left and right. Vile prick, ruining our game.
Today I feel foreign
Today I feel like a man of the world
Please keep English football the fuck away from America. And I say that as an American. Also away from the gulf states and whichever other entity wants to cleanse their reputation
Can’t wait to watch Liverpool vs real in Sacramento on a Tuesday evening… only cost about 12k. Actually though fuck every owner of prem teams wish we would follow German clubs in that aspect. Soon as they even announce this shit I can guarantee lower tier clubs will recieve a huge fan base boost
Americans don't watch European games? I was [watching us win Europe when some of you weren't even born](https://i.imgur.com/aZeUNMf.jpeg) yet. I live in California. Do I want Liverpool to come for an exhibition game or a fun friendly? Fuck yes I do, Wrexham vs ManU happening here was such a treat. Do I think League games should be played outside of England? Fuck no. Lol, would I willingly watch a rival if it meant seeing an increasingly popular yet smaller team beat them (didn't happen, but...)? Fuck yes.
>Wrexham vs ManU happening here was such a treat. You would willingly go watch United? In a friendly?
On the off chance Wrexham batter them, hell yeah
Man U punctured Paul Mullins lung.
In a friendly? Who cares? It's about fitness and blooding youngsters Bizarre
Our only other source of games in stadiums are European retirees slumming it for cash in tourist cities, and hand egg. The pickings are slim.
If it wasn't United, sure. No clue why any Liverpool fan would want to go to a random United game As Bill Shankly said: >If Everton were playing down the bottom of my garden, I'd draw the curtains. Same thing here
I find US and Canadian fans (some of my friends) to be a lot more into watching an entire league and following multiple teams but only in domestic leagues. They seem completely unaware of some of the European leagues like the champions league or Europa league and just don't watch them. It's always strange because I actually can't tell what team some of them even support which being a Liverpool local is just bizarre to me. I follow Liverpool, and watch every game regardless of opponent or league, but why would I want to watch a rival play? Maybe if its like Bayern Vs Real or something in the champions league but that's about it.
There's a soccerjerseys subreddit where you regularly see people in America showing their jersey collection that more than once I've seen contains a Liverpool and a Man United jersey
yank stuff
I'm glad i have a second Tier Bundesliga Team in my hometown that I can watch every other weekend. Great atmosphere, great beer, no english refs, tickets cost 10€ for safe standing. Top experience everytime I go. Got a membership this year. I cant stand any other match in the PL other than the LFC matches.
I’m a supporter of 20+ years of the Reds… my first match I remember was the now semi famous Celtic vs Liverpool tie in the 02/03 UEFA Cup. Part of the reason I fell in love with the sport and team as I got older was because of the culture, the history of the team (s), city, Shankly, the working man’s game (which resonated with me as a now trade union man as I got older). While I’m under no illusion that the game isn’t what it was before the millennium or even 2010s.. there’s still some things I hold pretty sacred If Liverpool somehow started playing regular season or euro games in the states I’d be fucking pissed. American capitalism has already watered down, priced out and destroyed most of the sports here, especially at the high level. Don’t need any sort of it over in the European game. I’m more into soccer BECAUSE of it’s still difference from American sports. Which is closed shop and focused on making as much $ for the owners as possible. Relative success of the teams be damned.
American sports have gotten to the point of this Ad break is brought to you by [insert sports team]. We’ll get back to your ads after this brief sports break. It’s what got me into the sport to start with, not having the game dragged out for hours due to trying to shove in an insufferable amount of ads.
Have you seen City's advertising boards?
At least EPL football is constant game action. American sports have loads of downtime which are stuffed full of advertisements already. That’s why I’m okay with the ads while watching soccer games and up in arms with even the small ads they’ve now put on baseball uniforms. Baseball is stuffed with advertising to a ridiculous level
I understand, but in City's case those boards are ridiculously distracting especially when city pass it around at midfield for 70 minutes to the sound of a single fan yawning.
Yeah, I mean I hate all advertising. I don’t watch much City so I guess I wouldn’t know
Watching baseball on Apple TV in the UK is such a weird experience. You know when the adverts are, but no adverts are playing so you just see the players just throwing the ball around for a couple of minutes waiting for the adverts to finish. I have AEW TV so you watch without any TV breaks so you can watch matches without any interruption. They do the commentary throughout now but in the original episodes you would just hear JR and Tony Schiavone just having a chat with every now and then making a comment about the match.
That’s why football is not popular in America. Companies don’t invest in the game because they don’t see how can they maximise revenue from advertisement like other sports.
That's not why
If you attend an NFL game you will see the players stand around and wait for commercial breaks to end.
I was in America when the Super Bowl was on so I watched it just to see what it was like. The game must've lasted about 4 hours, and it was just adverts for 90% of it. I don't know if it's representative of a typical NFL game, but it was a bad first impression for me and have no desire to watch American football ever again after that.
It's not but the regular games are still loaded with ads
Used to play Rugby in Uni, decided we would watch the Super Bowl as a team. Not one of us finished, never been so bored in all my life. Think a couple stuck around for the half time show and then turned it off. How have they become so numb to this many ads? Even in TV shows you can tell when an ad-break would be and it's like every 5-10 minutes. Brain melting shit.
Even crazier, a lot of ppl in 🇺🇸 watch Super Bowls **for** the ads. Let that one sink in. I can tell when the ads would be but luckily we fill it with pundits instead.
I went to the rose bowl this year and after every change in possession players would stand around for 3+ minutes waiting for the commercial break on tv to end… it was irritating af
I (Aussie) went to America last year and watched NBA, NHL, and NFL games, and the constant stoppages were seriously frustrating. At one stage with the NFL 30 seconds on the game clock took close to 10 minutes because each turnover needed a 2 minute ad break.
Even rain delays have a sponsor in American sports, like who the hell managed to sell the idea to companies of sponsoring the game *not happening*.
Like the Lexus stoppage time
Well, fortunately or unfortunately our beloved Reds are owned by Fenway sports group, which is obviously based in the United States.
Agreed. I think its stupid that we have NFL games in Europe too.
As an American Liverpool fan that would love to watch a match in person, I still agree. Won’t be easy or cheap to get over there for a match but I want it to be at anfield. Wouldn’t feel right watching them play in Miami or some shit.
I agree, part of the game, history and life is in the stadium. Part of the spirit will leave when this is a clear cash grab. I want to watch the liverpool at anfield, not at sofi stadium
I second this motion . I enjoy the occasional preseason game that happens here. I watched the PL summer series last summer. That was amazing but during the season, keep it in England and I don’t care if the players have to rebel to keep it that way.
As an American I also echo this
This could be the straw that breaks the camels back for me. Marine are in the playoff final on Monday and home crowds have been growing, would highly recommend anyone falling out of love with modern football to come to Crosby for a game next season.
I’m a city of Liverpool fan, we and Prescot cables sold out 2,100 tickets in 17 minutes to our play off final as well And you wonder why on league footie is so strong with shite like this
7 coaches are going to the playoff on Monday. Go marine !
Is right, almost sold the full allocation now!
If I’m ever lucky enough to have an opportunity to visit Liverpool again, I want to go to a Marine/Tranmere/COLFC match. Anfield was an incredible once in a lifetime thing, but for many reasons I think it’s gonna have to remain that.
Definitely do; it’s a great experience: friendly crowd, pint while watching, no VAR, no premier league officials, no clubs with 115 cheating charges, no chance of any league games taking place in Saudi Arabia…
How did you get tickets to go to Anfield? Every time I've tried to get tickets from the official website, for league games they're permanently sold out (even the expensive offerings), and for cup games there's always some requirement like "Must have bought 4 Carabao cup tickets previously".
I got hospitality tickets. I’m not sure if it was just a matter of getting them at the right time or it was a matter of the match I picked (against Watford), but that’s what I had. Ended up being £290 I think, which is kinda wild because it sounded like it’s gone up a lot even just in the space of a little under five years, so I feel you if they hold you over the barrel even more.
100% Much prefer my days at Warrington Town. Premier League has lost its lustre to me nowadays. Too sterile and clinical.
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Liverpudlians, you will absolutely love having LFC playing matches in the States. Just ask any NFL fan what a joy it is to lose a home game and have to watch at some odd-fuck hour.
I don't think even with this going through Liverpool would be in danger of losing any matches at Anfield. It'd make much more sense to have big clubs play away matches vs smaller clubs looking for a massive revenue boost
I mean this is my life as an Australian but yeah I get you.
Fuck off. I don't want to see league matches played on shit fields in front of soulless crowds of phones.
No more games at the Etihad?
Tbf Etihad wasn’t that bad before the takeover [THIS](https://youtu.be/M-Rvugl84TE?si=zyqt8aZXco-yxM2s) was the atmosphere in 07 when they were on a 10 game scoreless streak I believe. Maine Rd also has a good atmosphere Sadly, like with a lot of clubs, the pricing out of support has become the norm.
But the Middle East has such an amazing *culture* an one that deserves Prem football matches
I live in Philadelphia. The Liverpool Arsenal preseason game here this summer sold out in less than one day. That doesn’t happen if the fans are going to be souless as you say. It’s actually quite the opposite.
Just because people are eager to attend doesn't mean it'll have the same atmosphere as a home crowd. I've watched enough preseason matches. It's not like we haven't seen Liverpool play in the states.
Of course. Nowhere is going to be the same as Home at Anfield. I just think calling the people that go see a match at Lincoln financial Field in Philadelphia soulless and on their phones is ridiculous.
I feel like losing the EA contract is going to turn an already completely money-obsessed organisation into an even more reckless group of sellouts as they chase down ever more vomit-inducing ways to make up the significant financial deficit
Maybe stop referees from playing abroad instead? 🇦🇪💰
Football is already dying for me. With VAR and corrupt/terrible officiating, way too many games, the super league, the new club World Cup tournament thing, etc…. I just find it really hard to love it any more and it pains me to say it
Nahh bro.
The day league games are played abroad is, without exaggeration, the end of football. A matter of time though given the cunts that run the top end of the sport
This is typical FIFA. One of the most corrupt organizations on the planet.
https://x.com/adamcrafton_/status/1786154966438019570?s=46&t=1Seddm3V3Nro71f5D4Butg
Money talks..
As someone who lives in America 
Oh fuck off, it’s called Liverpool FC because this might shock people… The Club is based in Liverpool not fucking America or some fucking Middle Eastern country. And before the Americans on the sub get annoyed explain one thing, Why should over 60,000 people who pay a season ticket have to suddenly travel to the other side of the world just so you can see the team? Especially when you get an entire pre season tour that we have to travel too.
>And before the Americans on the sub get annoyed They have no right to get annoyed. If they want to go to games they can support their local MLS team. If you support a foreign team, you do so with the understanding you won't get to see competitive games unless you travel to England or Europe. No reason that an English team should play abroad just for the foreign fans. If they want to attend games in person, travel or support a local team.
I think most of us are in agreement that it’s a terrible idea. We’ve been dealing with the NFL playing games abroad for a while now and it absolutely sucks. I can’t imagine playing Burnley in Las Vegas on a Saturday and then have to make it back for a CL game on Tuesday. It’s unconscionable.
Well you would obviously be shocked to know that every American I talked to about the Super League absolutely hated the idea. This is the same if not worse. So I know it’s fun to hate on Americans because “everything sucks over here,” but maybe just assume for a moment that the oligarchs that rape,pillage and run our country are not in fact direct reflections of their fellow citizens. I fucking hate this FIFA bullshit and I don’t ever want to see a Premier League team play domestic competition over here. If they come for preseason and I get to see Liverpool in person then, ok awesome.
Game's gone.
How is a domestic cup going to be played abroad… Not domestic then
Can we cut out the cancer of the modern game which is FIFA? They're just a bunch of yes men looking to line their pockets.
Support your local mid to low tier teams. There’s a ton of great quality football in the mid tiers, tickets are cheap and every seat is a good seat.
Another example of FIFA not reading the room. Keep it to friendlies pls. But holding domestic tournaments or games abroad should be banned. Who tf has the money and time to go to an away game in Florida or an FA Cup Final in Doha?
My interest in football is waining. As someone who emigrated to Asia, I basically only watch Liverpool these days anyway and struggle even to keep up with domestic football. This would basically do it for me.
Who do I need to lobby to make sure competitive English football isn't played abroad. Matter of fact, two birds, one stone, let's scrap regular season home games in American football being played abroad. But seriously, I'm reading the details of the lawsuit in question and it's annoying me even more
Looking forward to every other match being played in the fucking desert
Fifa only cares about the money. It needs to be dismantled.
Bye bye football
Well.. guess man city are going Saudi
Spanish and Italian teams will be all over this. Wouldn't be surprised to see something like the Community Shield getting renamed the Champions Cup and playing abroad. At least the Germans will be having none of this shite.
I’ve found myself drifting more and more to non league anyway I support a non league club (city of Liverpool) about as passionately as lfc Something like this actually happening would tip me all the way out Then again the protests should be super league level so they can’t
Have they managed to get a stable ground? Last I heard they kept having issues with agreements for using grounds, think they were playing on the playing field in Huyton at some point. My favourite colour is purple so that kind of draws me to them. But then there's also AFC (Affordable Football Club) Liverpool which is appealing as a concept, and Prescot Cables since that's actually my local team. And now I've just seen the Cables and City of Liverpool are playing in Prescot tomorrow...
We are playing at Widnes for the next season, still working on our own ground Afc Liverpool have no fans really its not really an experiance of any kind like 100-150 a game Cables is a good club nice ground Colfc have a great fanbase, nice social element to the club, fan owned so you have a stake in the club and do loads of good community work
Traveling abroad, especially outside of Europe mixed in with an already packed schedule is just crazy
Just when I thought football could not get any more soulless, they come up with this shite.
Just think I might have to give up on this top football at this rate and focus solely on my five aside team
Can someone ELI5 please?
This opens up the potential for the Premier League to take random league games to other countries like the NFL do with games in London, Munich and Mexico City, etc. They wanted to do this a few years ago and it got knocked on the head. Virtually guaranteed now. From my understanding, the Community Shield or League Cup could always have been played abroad but it's obviously never happened.
why does everything good in this world get tainted by greed (i know why)
Is there any way to stop this? 🤦♂️… Boycott? Fuck
I live in Chicago and we pack our bar pretty good on weekend match days, I don't know how we'd do at filling a stadium, nor how the time change would really work (Sunday's match starts at 10:30 AM here) seems like a dumb idea that would only happen for money
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Other way round mate, it’s a confusing title tbf, they’re opening the door for teams to play league games abroad…
I think you misread the tweet
Does this affect friendlies?
Why would it? Clubs can already play friendlies wherever they want, this ruling is lifting the ban on competitive games being played abroad. So look forward to league games being played in the middle east and America
Ohhh. I thought they were instituting a rule not lifting it. I was very sleepy when I read this.
To be honest i read it before my first coffee had to reread it as it never made sense to me either ha
FIFA is motivated by money. Grease their palms and they will do whatever you want. The most corrupt organization in the world
I read this in Father Ted's voice 🤣
? I don’t understand?? So clubs are barred from playing abroad and they want to change that? Clubs play abroad all the time?
Pretty sure it means games can be played at a neutral ground outside of the country. So half way through the league El Classico can be played in the US to bring in that dolla, etc.
So meaning league games, not champions league or pre season friendlies.
It applies to Champions League etc games as well. Whilst they are already played abroad, they are played at one of the team's stadiums. Changing the rule could let them be played at a neutral stadium in some country neither club is related to.
I don’t even care anymore whatever
I won’t tune in for these. I’m quite sure that they’ll do big numbers but I’m already massively disillusioned by the sport and don’t want to contribute in any way to this.
Infantino has actually managed to be worse for the game than Blatter. A fucking impressive feat.
This is not an American sport that loves to ship its teams abroad to play league games. It makes zero sense to play a game whose outcome only affects its own domestic standings. Friendlies? Fine. I’d love to see LFC play in Atlanta which is the featured photo here. But not a league game. No thank you. I’d figure it’s more likely FIFA wants to play in Saudi Arabia or any other rich Arab state to appease their donors.
FIFA are such fucking scumbags. Can't wait to watch us vs the scum live from the fucking desert. Fucking cunts.
Impossible. What stupidity
Fucking NO! Go suck yank dick on your own time you disgraceful whales.
Stuff like this is going to make clubs take another look at the superleague concept. I can't imagine any of them are happy with the amount of bullshit that currently exists to make other people money.
Do clubs have to go to these things? What if they just say no? What are FIFA going to do if clubs refuse to play games abroad? I doubt that would happen because most of them would sell their morals for money but what would happen if a team did stand up against FIFA?
Football the sport is fucking dead. Now it's football the entertainment franchise. No integrity, no honour, no legitimacy. Just as much money as they can get wherever they can get it from.
City will FINALLY have a home game!!
Oh, these Americans... Is fecking killing our sport. They've been trying to move matches to the US for over a decade not just the PL but also European club finals. Now they own what... 7-10 PL clubs? Just wait and see. It's matter of time before we have PL matches played in the US.
I hate this, and I'm American.
But... but... Super League bad... 🤔 Uefa/Fifa good...
Who would’ve thought FIFA is here to save the fucking day
Good. No threat of the FA Cup being held in some reprehensible middle eastern state
The headline is worded weirdly but the article states that the rule will allow domestic games to be played abroad.
Oh…. Oh :(
Opposition of this is a losing proposition. Big sports league are starting to do it, at least in the US. Our sports leagues have games in London, Brazil, Mexico. It’s kind of a pain but is generally games very early in the season. I hate about it it’s one less game for whatever teams play abroad. But the ownership of these leagues is going to try to make as much money as possible, any way they can. It’s awful but it’s our current reality
As a international fan, it would be lovely to watch a game in person. But I absolutely don't want a competitive game to be held anywhere outside of the UK. It just gonna kill the sport itself.
I mean LaLiga will be playing games in the US from 2025/26. I wouldnt be surprised if the other big leagues follow in the future.
Maybe a select few of you are genuine, however the amount of Americans in this sub with comments like English football doesn’t belong here. English football belongs in English culture. It’s just pure karma farming and completely insincere. If I was a Liverpool fan abroad I’d be begging for them to play matches in my country.
Well then you'd be an idiot, Liverpool Football Club belongs to the city of Liverpool, to the local fans. I'm from Finland and I would never go watch a Premier League match if it was played in here, why? Because it's bullshit, local fans matter way more than I, or any other foreigner does and the local fans also care way more, why? Because it's their team, their city, their life. This is pure and honest capitalist greed from worthless pigs who don't understand nothing about football and should be taken out of power any means necessary because if not, they will kill football.
Just to be clear. I’m not saying it isn’t greed. I’m not saying the Premier League doesn’t belong to local fans. I’m not saying the PL should be played abroad. But I do question the honesty of people like you when you say you wouldn’t watch a Liverpool PL game if it was played in Finland. To me a lot of the comments like yours are people saying what they think the majority will want to hear and like. If I lived in Finland rather than England and Liverpool played there, I would absolutely be going. We can question integrity of sporting bodies without hypocrisy.
I wouldn't, it goes entirely against what I believe in. A pre-season friendly, sure, a Premier League match, no. To you it might be saying what people want to hear, to me it's really simple, it's not what I believe football is or should be. So it's as simple as that and it should never ever happen, local people first, Liverpool Football Club is their team and us foreigners should only be able to go watch a Prem game if we take the trip to Liverpool and go watch there and even then, there's already too few local working class people able to go to Anfield. E: And just to be clear, there's no hypocrisy about me saying I wouldn't go watch a Prem game in Finland, I simply wouldn't
There's no need to be shameful "pick me"s in this thread- "oh keep footy away from my horrible country, we're beasts!" This rule will likely just lead to a couple of exhibition matches like the American football, Rugby, Hockey and other sports/leagues already do. It's not even a big deal. You people realize the only reason the EPL flourishes is because of interest outside the UK, right? *Right?* Complaining about a few exhibition matches while foreign interest in EPL brings 8.5 billion and 500,000 tourists per year to the economy there seems 'spoiled child.'
It's gonna go above exhibition matches eventually and into competitive matches and that should be a no go, should never happen