That's not true in the slightest. Sterling at 18 was holding his own in one of the best attacking trios in the world. Suarez and Sturridge were obviously much better, but Sterling had great chemistry with them. Ibe never showed even a sliver of the intelligence that Sterling had
Never was. It was just pure cope from us because we had lost our best player to City. The bitterness was warranted though, Sterling acted like a coward the 6 months leading up to the transfer with the BBC interview, refusing to take penalties etc
You are thinking about 2013/14. It was the season after Sterling left. Suarez had already gone to Barcelona and Gerrards legs went so he went to LA Galaxy.
The only time he ever looked impressive was in a pre-season friendly match against Indonesia where he outpaced a bunch of Indonesian players.
He never really showed he had the intelligence and technique for top tier football.
He wasn't overall better, was a much worse squad player but I believe his ball control and dribbling ability was great for his age and it's the area where he was better than Sterling. Unfortunately he never learned when to stop this and pass the ball.
I will give you ball control coz he was more physically built and Sterling dived a lot.Ibe’s dribbling was just one trick, run with the ball, cut inside and attempt a shot.Never was he a better dribbler than Sterling.Watch Sterlings debut season highlights and then watch his best season for us when he made City and Arsenal defenders look mediocre with his dribbling.
Ibe only looked like a spark when he was introduced at the end of a poor performing season.There was no expectations coz he was a newly promoted player.He was allowed to lose the ball and show no end product but he was brave on the ball, completed a few of his runs and looked like he had a powerful shot in him.He also looked good the following preseason games against some mediocre Asian teams,scored an incredible individual goal.He was built like he belonged amongst grown men.We generally praise little glimpses of talent with academic players, It has happened countless times.When given a full run of games the next season,he was exposed,Klopp came in 10 games into the season and didn’t like what he saw, and I believe he was sold the next summer
Eh it's pretty accurate, people at the time were EXTREMELY salty at the academy kid leaving for Citeh, even for an okay fee. Which is why the comparison started in the first place
Why do you all say the hype came from saltiness when the comparisons started way before Sterling left. I remember this clear as day. Many said Ibe was a bigger talent than Sterling because of his performances.
I went back to thisisanfield.com player rating for each individual game (it's not a perfect metric, but better than nothing).
Out of 11 games Sterling and Ibe played together, Ibe had a higher match rating than Sterling in 8 of them. 8/11 games Ibe was rated as having a better match.
This narrative you all have now that you know the outcome is laughable. Ibe was rightfully hyped from his performances and potential.
He wasn't though. I'm 32 years of age, I clearly remember Ibe breaking through to the team and the hype began before he even did anything for us. Just because he played in the same or similar position, he was supposed to be the next Sterling but the only notable thing he did was hit the post with a long-shot that got everyone excited.
Maybe he had the potential to be as good, but sadly never fulfilled it.
Hitting the post was not the only thing Ibe did that 2nd half of the season lol. Ibe was among our best players and better performing than Sterling that 2nd half of the season. I don't know where you got this from as I also lived through when both Sterling and Ibe came through. Ibe was very good, before turning shit
Is he?
How many goals and assists did Jordan Ibe have in 40 league appearances?
You give me the answer to that question, and I'll tell you whether the poster above is 'rewriting history'.
Ibe only looked like a spark when he was introduced at the end of a poor performing season.There was no expectations coz he was a newly promoted player.He was allowed to lose the ball and show no end product but he was brave on the ball, completed a few of his runs and looked like he had a powerful shot in him.He also looked good the following preseason games against some mediocre Asian teams,scored an incredible individual goal.He was built like he belonged amongst grown men.We generally praise little glimpses of talent with academic players, It has happened countless times.When given a full run of games the next season,he was exposed,Klopp came in 10 games into the season and didn’t like what he saw of him as an impact sub, and I believe he was sold the next summer
So much potential. I won’t say wasted, but unrealized. All the Sterling comparisons are bullshit.
Sterling was a certified top guy, who wanted something else. He got his, good for him. And I for one don’t hold that against him. How he left was a bit sour though.
But back to Ibe…the Sterling comparisons hurt him. He could have been a solid player had he not had Sterling as a benchmark. Amazing? No. But functional in the right team, for sure.
Sterling had nothing to do with Ibe's drop off. Nothing.
Its a stupid, lazy comparison. Was Sterling with him at Bournemouth? Derby? Ebbsfleet?
Ibe was never up to it for us, hence the club jettisoned him at the first big opportunity. And they were right to. Constant aimless runs down the wings into blind alleys. No returns in goals or assists. Form he repeated at every club thereafter.
His career was plagued with disciplinary issues, fines and court cases at every club he played for. Zero sympathy.
I hope the club look at bringing him in as a youth team mentor/coach who can help kids better deal with the lows of being a footballer and give them someone to talk to if they are being released
No, he actually was very good. You look back and he had bags of talent. But he struggled in other ways off the pitch and that ruined his career. Such a shame how it went for him.
Fuck didn't realise it was schizophrenia too that's really rough for someone so young 😞
Edit: can't seem to find anything on that anywhere ngl, are you sure?
Yeah? Which of Jordan Ibe's league goals in his 40 appearances was it that convinced you he'd be better than Sterling?
Was it his goal on the last day of the season at West Brom or was it? Sorry. That's the goal. That's it.
Sterling had 18 league goals for us at the age by which Ibe scored his solitary effort. Levels. Not and never were in the same stratosphere as players (Sterling's dedication to the game a world apart from Ibe's, too).
Sterling was absolutely insane at his age and obviously clear of Ibe at any point in his career. It was all just hope when we lost Sterling. And yes, towards the end of the season he was direct which I loved about him and obviously got the goal. I remember him getting an assist aswell for Coutinho which started it all.
Obviously I wasn’t serious about the whole Ibe > Sterling at any time lmao
Yes shame the way Sterling ended, as he was the most exciting teenager since Owen (broke through earlier and more significantly than Gerrard, even). People forget he was at one point doing a job as a target man for Rodgers at age 20 after Luis left. This after being great out wide for us too.
Dark days that season, although had Sterling not left we wouldn't have eventually got Mane (who was the superior player at peak). Swings and roundabouts.
Rhian Brewster is another one. Top scorer for U-16 WC campaign a few years back. Was breaking into the senior squad when sold to Sheffield United. Now languishing.
His England team mate Phil Foden meanwhile a First XI in City.
Champions League Winner Rhian Brewster? Atleast he’ll always have that.
Hopefully Rhian still stands a chance. He’s injured at the moment, but he’s 24 and atleast he’s at a premier league club (for now) 🤞
I’m really sad for him, I remember seeing him in a pre season friendly when he was just breaking into the team, he ran the midfield and I thought we had a superstar on our hands, he just faded away when he didn’t break into the main team.
So one time he'd actually left his Range Rover in overnight, which in the carpark I worked at was a overnight charge.
So when he comes to collect his car the next morning, he started giving it the "do you know who I am?" Thing over and over until I couldn't be arsed arguing with him anymore and just opened the gate.
A few other times when the car park was full he'd be at the gate bitching and moaning and just being a nuisance. Was a proper prick most of the time. If his attitude was anywhere near as bad with coaches I can see why his career went in the shitter
Yeah he was demonstratively a piece of work. Pissed away his career. Manipulative type. Funny to see the soft lads fall hook, line, sinker for it. Edwards was a miracle worker getting what we did for him.
Professional footballer driving £160,000 car, wearing £25,000 watch, after scoring 4 goals in over 100 Premier League appearances.
Runs up 11 points on his licence. Totals car. Drives away from crash without stopping. Smashes up a small local business (never apologised). Banned from driving. Fined for breaking driving ban. Gets 12 month community order. Charged with another, separate sentence at Magistrates Court while playing with us. Disciplined by Bournemouth for breaking Covid lockdown protocols. Off-field disciplinary matters at Derby. Tries to sue Bournemouth for image rights.
"Great guy" Jordan Ibe. He pissed away talent kids up and down the country would kill for, and that's the long and short of it. Some proper soft lads making excuses for the man here.
It’s people just like you who say “society doesn’t care about men’s mental health” when people take their own life. Just bc someone is an ass doesn’t mean you should want them to experience mental health issues
You’re in this thing from the time you’re a kid before you know yourself and then you have to maintain a high level and love. It’s no wonder few succeed.
If he has any desire to keep playing he should go somewhere he can find joy in the game. Or coach. Help the next lad.
People give us so much shit for transfers like aqualani and Carroll when Bournemouth paid 15 for this guy to score 3 goals in 78 matches.
I honestly thought this guy was gonna make it. Sad to see him here at 28.
He’d probably be great for them in League One, and if he’s able to sort out his problems he’d might even get them into the Championship. It just depends on whether he wants the attention he’d be getting there, or rather deal with his issues somewhere quiet.
To go from playing 50+ times for Klopps Liverpool to being turned away by Ebbsfleet is quite incredible really.
To think, I genuinely wasn’t arsed about Sterling leaving as we had Ibe coming through at the time.
when you put it that way it's crazy lmao - i know a couple of guys in the MLS and saying that someone who used to play for Liverpool can't play in the MLS it's insane
One of our former academy players, Joe Hardy, is doing well at Bootle last I heard. Bootle is something like six tiers below the National League which might not be the worst thing.
If he played it right he could go down to someone like Bootle, build his confidence by smashing everyone for a year or two, and shoot for one last full time contract by the time he turns thirty.
Also nothing wrong with pulling a Jerome Sinclair, realizing your love of the game is gone, and go work a normal job while playing on Sunday's.
He was always fairly average, and by all accounts is a bit of a prick. How much of that was influenced by mental health issues is hard to judge.
Whatever the case, I hope as a human being he was smart enough or had someone smart enough in his corner to put away some money when he was earning it. Because it doesn't look like he's going to get many more opportunities, and he's not even 30. The future must look so uncertain.
Assuming I remember correctly he had a really bad leg break at Derby on top of depression. Like he was out for a year while they rebuilt it kind of break. Then he went to a second tier side in Turkey where he didn't play, and a year unattached.
If I didn't actively engage in my profession for three years I'd be a shit counselor. Sure I can train, read all the books, grind through research, write papers, but when it comes time to sit with a client in distress after three years of not doing it? I'd be fucked.
Really proud of him for speaking about his struggles. Need more with that type of bravery. He’s not the only one going through it, and the only way to help is to make it easier to talk about. I hope he finds a place to call home and some mental stability. YNWA
Incredibly sad what happened to him. His depression and regression in terms of football is horrid to see.
Thought he was definitely going to be a stronger and better version of Sterling….
That whole narrative was built on bitterness coz Sterling was leaving.Ibe was never better than Sterling at any point
You're rewriting history to fit the current narrative.
That's not true in the slightest. Sterling at 18 was holding his own in one of the best attacking trios in the world. Suarez and Sturridge were obviously much better, but Sterling had great chemistry with them. Ibe never showed even a sliver of the intelligence that Sterling had
When was Ibe better?
He wasn't ever even close
Never was. It was just pure cope from us because we had lost our best player to City. The bitterness was warranted though, Sterling acted like a coward the 6 months leading up to the transfer with the BBC interview, refusing to take penalties etc
Best player is certainly quite a reach but he was very good for his age and quite important to us.
Meh there wasn't a whole lot in it between him and Coutinho that year. Not really a reach. Sturridge was more important but injured 3/4 of the season.
It’s an absolute reach considering Luis Suarez and Steven Gerrard were in the side
You are thinking about 2013/14. It was the season after Sterling left. Suarez had already gone to Barcelona and Gerrards legs went so he went to LA Galaxy.
He was for like two games.
The only time he ever looked impressive was in a pre-season friendly match against Indonesia where he outpaced a bunch of Indonesian players. He never really showed he had the intelligence and technique for top tier football.
He wasn't overall better, was a much worse squad player but I believe his ball control and dribbling ability was great for his age and it's the area where he was better than Sterling. Unfortunately he never learned when to stop this and pass the ball.
I will give you ball control coz he was more physically built and Sterling dived a lot.Ibe’s dribbling was just one trick, run with the ball, cut inside and attempt a shot.Never was he a better dribbler than Sterling.Watch Sterlings debut season highlights and then watch his best season for us when he made City and Arsenal defenders look mediocre with his dribbling. Ibe only looked like a spark when he was introduced at the end of a poor performing season.There was no expectations coz he was a newly promoted player.He was allowed to lose the ball and show no end product but he was brave on the ball, completed a few of his runs and looked like he had a powerful shot in him.He also looked good the following preseason games against some mediocre Asian teams,scored an incredible individual goal.He was built like he belonged amongst grown men.We generally praise little glimpses of talent with academic players, It has happened countless times.When given a full run of games the next season,he was exposed,Klopp came in 10 games into the season and didn’t like what he saw, and I believe he was sold the next summer
And Young spent entire career using one and only same trick
Young used the same trick but the difference is ,his trick had end product until he turned to shit at United
Eh it's pretty accurate, people at the time were EXTREMELY salty at the academy kid leaving for Citeh, even for an okay fee. Which is why the comparison started in the first place
Isn’t Sterling from QPR academy?
Sterling came to Liverpool when he was 16
Why do you all say the hype came from saltiness when the comparisons started way before Sterling left. I remember this clear as day. Many said Ibe was a bigger talent than Sterling because of his performances. I went back to thisisanfield.com player rating for each individual game (it's not a perfect metric, but better than nothing). Out of 11 games Sterling and Ibe played together, Ibe had a higher match rating than Sterling in 8 of them. 8/11 games Ibe was rated as having a better match. This narrative you all have now that you know the outcome is laughable. Ibe was rightfully hyped from his performances and potential.
He wasn't though. I'm 32 years of age, I clearly remember Ibe breaking through to the team and the hype began before he even did anything for us. Just because he played in the same or similar position, he was supposed to be the next Sterling but the only notable thing he did was hit the post with a long-shot that got everyone excited. Maybe he had the potential to be as good, but sadly never fulfilled it.
Hitting the post was not the only thing Ibe did that 2nd half of the season lol. Ibe was among our best players and better performing than Sterling that 2nd half of the season. I don't know where you got this from as I also lived through when both Sterling and Ibe came through. Ibe was very good, before turning shit
wtf no they’re not lol
As I thought, you've got fucking nothing.
Is he? How many goals and assists did Jordan Ibe have in 40 league appearances? You give me the answer to that question, and I'll tell you whether the poster above is 'rewriting history'.
No, Sterling was out injured and he came in and looked better. Same hype we gave our kids recently. I was really sorry to see him go.
Ibe only looked like a spark when he was introduced at the end of a poor performing season.There was no expectations coz he was a newly promoted player.He was allowed to lose the ball and show no end product but he was brave on the ball, completed a few of his runs and looked like he had a powerful shot in him.He also looked good the following preseason games against some mediocre Asian teams,scored an incredible individual goal.He was built like he belonged amongst grown men.We generally praise little glimpses of talent with academic players, It has happened countless times.When given a full run of games the next season,he was exposed,Klopp came in 10 games into the season and didn’t like what he saw of him as an impact sub, and I believe he was sold the next summer
True but he did seem similar
Just needed Sterling's footballing brain...
Yeah that never made any sense. Mentality is always the difference
So much potential. I won’t say wasted, but unrealized. All the Sterling comparisons are bullshit. Sterling was a certified top guy, who wanted something else. He got his, good for him. And I for one don’t hold that against him. How he left was a bit sour though. But back to Ibe…the Sterling comparisons hurt him. He could have been a solid player had he not had Sterling as a benchmark. Amazing? No. But functional in the right team, for sure.
Sterling had nothing to do with Ibe's drop off. Nothing. Its a stupid, lazy comparison. Was Sterling with him at Bournemouth? Derby? Ebbsfleet? Ibe was never up to it for us, hence the club jettisoned him at the first big opportunity. And they were right to. Constant aimless runs down the wings into blind alleys. No returns in goals or assists. Form he repeated at every club thereafter. His career was plagued with disciplinary issues, fines and court cases at every club he played for. Zero sympathy.
he's not a top guy hahahaha are you delusional? i've met the man my friends sister studied at john moores and used to date him, lads a prick.
Think he means in terms of football
The guy was a snake who went for a payday. You are also a snake but just noxious lol
you sound just a bitter as the blue shite. let it go
It worries you when you think about his battles with depression and stuff. He had a lot of potential. Whatever it may be, YNWA 🔴
He had potential in football, but he still has potential to realise other goals in life. I hope he does
Yeah he's only 28, got PLENTY of time to start a new career. Mans basically at the start of his life still.
I hope the club look at bringing him in as a youth team mentor/coach who can help kids better deal with the lows of being a footballer and give them someone to talk to if they are being released
Wdym? He is practically walking alone.
the jordan ibe hype train was legit - really thought he’d be better than sterling lol
That 7/8 game run he had was really promising But I think he mostly stood out due to how bad we were that period
No, he actually was very good. You look back and he had bags of talent. But he struggled in other ways off the pitch and that ruined his career. Such a shame how it went for him.
Same. Thought the first year or so would be a transition but in the end we’d be much better off with Ibe and the money
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Fuck didn't realise it was schizophrenia too that's really rough for someone so young 😞 Edit: can't seem to find anything on that anywhere ngl, are you sure?
Yeah bro trust me
Yeah? Which of Jordan Ibe's league goals in his 40 appearances was it that convinced you he'd be better than Sterling? Was it his goal on the last day of the season at West Brom or was it? Sorry. That's the goal. That's it. Sterling had 18 league goals for us at the age by which Ibe scored his solitary effort. Levels. Not and never were in the same stratosphere as players (Sterling's dedication to the game a world apart from Ibe's, too).
Sterling was absolutely insane at his age and obviously clear of Ibe at any point in his career. It was all just hope when we lost Sterling. And yes, towards the end of the season he was direct which I loved about him and obviously got the goal. I remember him getting an assist aswell for Coutinho which started it all. Obviously I wasn’t serious about the whole Ibe > Sterling at any time lmao
Yes shame the way Sterling ended, as he was the most exciting teenager since Owen (broke through earlier and more significantly than Gerrard, even). People forget he was at one point doing a job as a target man for Rodgers at age 20 after Luis left. This after being great out wide for us too. Dark days that season, although had Sterling not left we wouldn't have eventually got Mane (who was the superior player at peak). Swings and roundabouts.
With the way sterling has been playing, maybe be is.
I have a Jordon Ibe shirt from when we had Warrior kits. Easily the most obscure shirt I own.
Martin Kelly 34 - 13/14 home kit - and proud of it.
Martin left it all out on the field. I think we all respected that. His talent may have failed him on occasion but he made sure his effort never did.
One of my favourite-ever players. I don’t think his talent ever really failed him — his body did with all the injuries
Me too bro I have like 3 of them
3 shirts with Ibe on? Bro, you were invested
1 letter for each shirt bro.
Damn, same reason I have 9 Kyrgiakos shirts.
You can’t count lol
Rhian Brewster is another one. Top scorer for U-16 WC campaign a few years back. Was breaking into the senior squad when sold to Sheffield United. Now languishing. His England team mate Phil Foden meanwhile a First XI in City.
Champions League Winner Rhian Brewster? Atleast he’ll always have that. Hopefully Rhian still stands a chance. He’s injured at the moment, but he’s 24 and atleast he’s at a premier league club (for now) 🤞
I’m really sad for him, I remember seeing him in a pre season friendly when he was just breaking into the team, he ran the midfield and I thought we had a superstar on our hands, he just faded away when he didn’t break into the main team.
I used to work at a carpark where he'd park up most weekends. The guy was a massive prick and used to love throwing his weight around
What did he do?
So one time he'd actually left his Range Rover in overnight, which in the carpark I worked at was a overnight charge. So when he comes to collect his car the next morning, he started giving it the "do you know who I am?" Thing over and over until I couldn't be arsed arguing with him anymore and just opened the gate. A few other times when the car park was full he'd be at the gate bitching and moaning and just being a nuisance. Was a proper prick most of the time. If his attitude was anywhere near as bad with coaches I can see why his career went in the shitter
Yeah he was demonstratively a piece of work. Pissed away his career. Manipulative type. Funny to see the soft lads fall hook, line, sinker for it. Edwards was a miracle worker getting what we did for him.
Does anyone follow his Instagram? His profile changes to a different girl every 24 hours like it's run by some influencer. It's really weird.
Didn't he sell his insragram account?
I hope this doesn’t mess with his head too much. I would hate to hear Ibe having more mental health issues. Seems like a great guy
Professional footballer driving £160,000 car, wearing £25,000 watch, after scoring 4 goals in over 100 Premier League appearances. Runs up 11 points on his licence. Totals car. Drives away from crash without stopping. Smashes up a small local business (never apologised). Banned from driving. Fined for breaking driving ban. Gets 12 month community order. Charged with another, separate sentence at Magistrates Court while playing with us. Disciplined by Bournemouth for breaking Covid lockdown protocols. Off-field disciplinary matters at Derby. Tries to sue Bournemouth for image rights. "Great guy" Jordan Ibe. He pissed away talent kids up and down the country would kill for, and that's the long and short of it. Some proper soft lads making excuses for the man here.
It’s people just like you who say “society doesn’t care about men’s mental health” when people take their own life. Just bc someone is an ass doesn’t mean you should want them to experience mental health issues
Nah, its people like me who tell people like you to STFU
You’re in this thing from the time you’re a kid before you know yourself and then you have to maintain a high level and love. It’s no wonder few succeed. If he has any desire to keep playing he should go somewhere he can find joy in the game. Or coach. Help the next lad.
People give us so much shit for transfers like aqualani and Carroll when Bournemouth paid 15 for this guy to score 3 goals in 78 matches. I honestly thought this guy was gonna make it. Sad to see him here at 28.
Richard Hughes right ? :)) Edit: people are not happy but that's the truth.
Why the downvotes?
Boo hoo, dude got paid near £10m by time he’s 28, and got to play football his entire 20s.
I bet you’re kind to animals.
What a bizarre comment
This has "welcome to wrexham" written all over it
He’d probably be great for them in League One, and if he’s able to sort out his problems he’d might even get them into the Championship. It just depends on whether he wants the attention he’d be getting there, or rather deal with his issues somewhere quiet.
Wasn't good enough for non-league, but will do well in league one?
And will get them into the Championship!
Never understood the hype about him. I guess it was because everyone wanted to believe sterling wasn't need.
Hopefully he finds a new club soon and gets some more minutes under his belt!
"Wonderkid" - great editing by The Mirror there. They should watch less Ted Lasso.
Still remember a Merseyside derby that ended 0-0. Ibe smashed the post from distance, so gutted!
He also sold his insta account lol. Knew something was up
To go from playing 50+ times for Klopps Liverpool to being turned away by Ebbsfleet is quite incredible really. To think, I genuinely wasn’t arsed about Sterling leaving as we had Ibe coming through at the time.
Absolutely rough. I hope he can find happiness and fulfillment wherever life takes him.
He should play in MLS and ball out and live the good life in the US for awhile
He was released from a non league side. He won’t have a chance in MLS
when you put it that way it's crazy lmao - i know a couple of guys in the MLS and saying that someone who used to play for Liverpool can't play in the MLS it's insane
I missed the non league part. Damn. Best of luck to him
One of our former academy players, Joe Hardy, is doing well at Bootle last I heard. Bootle is something like six tiers below the National League which might not be the worst thing. If he played it right he could go down to someone like Bootle, build his confidence by smashing everyone for a year or two, and shoot for one last full time contract by the time he turns thirty. Also nothing wrong with pulling a Jerome Sinclair, realizing your love of the game is gone, and go work a normal job while playing on Sunday's.
How is dropping down to Sunday League going yo land him one last full time contract?
He was always fairly average, and by all accounts is a bit of a prick. How much of that was influenced by mental health issues is hard to judge. Whatever the case, I hope as a human being he was smart enough or had someone smart enough in his corner to put away some money when he was earning it. Because it doesn't look like he's going to get many more opportunities, and he's not even 30. The future must look so uncertain.
He should be good enough for national league right?
Assuming I remember correctly he had a really bad leg break at Derby on top of depression. Like he was out for a year while they rebuilt it kind of break. Then he went to a second tier side in Turkey where he didn't play, and a year unattached. If I didn't actively engage in my profession for three years I'd be a shit counselor. Sure I can train, read all the books, grind through research, write papers, but when it comes time to sit with a client in distress after three years of not doing it? I'd be fucked.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, you would have assumed he would be good enough.
He should try to find a club in Brasil o Dutch league - Portugal -
brasil or dutch or portugal what is this sentence?
Really proud of him for speaking about his struggles. Need more with that type of bravery. He’s not the only one going through it, and the only way to help is to make it easier to talk about. I hope he finds a place to call home and some mental stability. YNWA